>no rare earths>24/7 power supply with thermal battery>looks futuristic>Ivanpah failedIvanpah was ran money hungry retards. Plus we could run Stirling engines with this model . Nuclear will be obsolete with this. Even in the worst case scenario nobody dies. That's not the case with Nuclear and Hydro.
>>541776593Based
I hate solar power, it's so useless, I have plenty of them and none can do their job any good
>>541776593>Plus we could run Stirling engines with this modelat that scale, the brayton cycle would probably be a better bet.possibly with supercritical CO2, SCCO2 is still in the experimental stage.
>>541776593The problem will always be transforming the heat into electricity and transporting the electricity over long distances with considerable losses. And the sun doesn't even shine 24/7 on that solar farm.
>>541776764Sun shines plenty in Spain and France and 90 percent of trans European HVDC lines are already there. >>541776735For Sweden its PV modules which is the best. Just buy some Chinese ones.
>>541776593What happened to geothermal? Did climate change freeze the earth's core?
>>541776755>supercritical CO2Yeah forgot to mention that. It will make it compact and high efficient.
>>541776593>solarjust third world things
The Sun is only going to get hotter and hotter so it's a very stable means for power. The mirrors lasts 1000s of years so you only need just to change the turbine once every 25 years.
>>541776905Good luck with the radioaktiv waters that you drink. You may get nuked once in a while so yeah, good luck with losing to Yemen or some shit.
>>541777215we just dump the waste in your country
>>541777294There's no waste. It's just becomes uninhabitable for a million years with 50 million people dying. Yeah, good luck with the ivans, trannies or some Palestinian terrorist blowing up the reactors kek.
SUCK THAT COCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>541777370No dumb-dumb black nigger, there is waste involved and it goes in your backyard
>>541777389SHAKE THAT ASS (BARK BARK)SHAKE THAT ASS (BARK BARK)
>>541776593Everything on the planet is run by money hungry retards. That's why the human race is so fucked.
>>541777432>there is waste involvedI'm impressed with your pajeet IQ. Damn, H1b really is a drag ain't it?
>>541776593Birds get absolutely vaporized by those. It's pretty funny.POOF
>>541777389Whoa, daddy!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9L0TXXa-NM
>>541776593Too expensive
>>541777498You seem frustrated at your own mental deficiency, try posting on r9k
>>541776879Too expensive
>>541777474We need socialism. Not the commie kind but uplifting each other. Taxes should've went to actual cheap and safe energy instead Nuclear and Green Energy psyop really made even the basic living unaffordable. It's all greedy faggots hijacking everything for their mansions and imaginary power.
>>541777553Meanwhile Nuclear costs 20 billion per GW. Pathetic. PV can do that under 500 million.
>>541776593This is the pedestrian take /pol/ needed today.
>>541776593Friendly reminder that 1 nuclear power plant = 10 million solar panelsBut yes, keep plastering these plastic panels across the earth, and have fun replacing them every 10~15 years
>>541776593Don't care, anything but petro and being tied to ME/Israel.
>>541777805chinaman OP will just put a billion panels down, probably mandate all citizens wear solar panels on their heads even the babbies
>>541777746Those are made up numbers, kike. I know you species can't help itself buy come on.
>>541777805With the fraction of Australian land you can power entire world with Solar. Stop being a stupid nigger. What do you gotta say about Space Solar? Nuclear is just jewish psyop to plant bombs everywhere.The best part is you don't even have to centralise solar. You can just put it on your roof.
Sounds like a great way to get lunatic pandora...
>>541776905so people in those states don't have to pay anything for electricity right?
>>541777370>ivans, trannies or some Palestinian terrorist blowing up the reactors kekA libtard and his jerk-off phantasies
I think humanity neede diversified sources of energy. Concentrated solar would be great but what if something happens to the atmospheres or with the sun weather etc? We need nuclear fusion
>>541776879Are you retarded? Geothermal is not sufficient because most of the heat is deep below the earth dumbass
>>541776593Noor III produces 150 MW gross peak power and includes 7.5 hours of molten-salt thermal energy storage. So the facility generates approximately 400 to 500 GWh annually. The largest single data center campuses currently operating draw between 300 MW and 1,500+ MW.One farm = one small datacenter. Now geothermal, on the other hand.
>>541776764Anon it's a big battery (molten salt) you can choose to draw the power at night.That said they are too expensive and basically doomed to fail.
>>541778918>Are you retarded? Geothermal is not sufficient because most of the heat is deep below the earth dumbassNot true. You just need to be close to a geothermal active area. Hellisheiði Power Station has an annual electrical output of approximately 2,200 to 2,400 GWh per year. I live in the USA and can drive to 2 separate active volcanoes in different directions within 4 hours of my house.
>>541777825Yeah fuck making the sandniggers rich
>>541776593>ConcentratedWhy? The appeal of reducing reliance on the grid should be obvious.
>>541776593Solar power is actually stupid. One storm and your whole solar field is ruined. A little bit of hail and it's over. Our real future of energy is all nuclear. Small nuclear reactors using modern techniques that prevent any kind of meltdown from ever happening.
>>541779941this
All of that makes enough energy to power a single chatGPT user for five hours.
>>541776735>I have plenty of them and none can do their job any goodwhy you put solar on artic circle where 6 months is night?
>>541776593In a couple years every rich off gridder will have PV, seasonal storage and their own fuel synthesis. PV generates direct electricity and with diffused light too, it's much more convenient.Of course you still depend on a technological supply chain for when anything breaks down, but that's true for anything above stone age technology. Even steel tools will become unrepaurable eventually.
>>541779941Vertical and put in some proper posts (steel posts, brrred into the ground). If wind is strong enough to blow over a properly posted solar panel you've got bigger problems. Of course you need a fair bit of land.
>>541776735My solar panels were not working so good, so I bought some UV floodlights and I began blasting the panels 24 hrs a day. Now they generate much electricity but there is a problem, something is now draining the electricity even fast than it can generate so I agree with you, solar panels are not good.
>>541777825Lol if China said they put down 500 GW capacity worth of solar I wouldn't believe it's 125 GW.
Based and SOL pilledCareful *they* hate threads about the Sun. While current tech isnt perfect, the miracles freely given must be converted into energy. If not nuclear powered either way!
>>541776764The problem will always be hailstorms>>541777370in Chernobyl nature is doing fine, there were even people living there.
>>541776593I heckin love Solar.Elon Musk is a GENIUS.
>>541783673>The problem will always be hailstormsNot for vertical.
>>541776593Even with storage you're going to need tens of thousands of square kilometers of solar farms to power each continent. They're also terrible in Swedish/Norway/Russia/Canada winters and suffer frost damage as well as almost no sun exposure for half the year. They can also be damaged by hail.The cost/benefit analysis is still nowhere as good as a modern generation coal plant or nuclear.Solarfags don't live in reality.
>>541776593>no sun, no powerBrilliantBut let's do nuclear anyway
>>541783895It has thermal battery. It's 24/7 and it doesn't need lithium to store it's energy.
>>541783664Sol is the greatest thing ever. It's our only friend in this pajeet/nigger earth. Solar is divinity.
>>541778531
>2,200 to 2,400 GWh per yearSo... no more than 274 MW? Respectable. Somewhere around 1/3 of the average nuclear plant or 21% of the Hoover dam.
>>541784475was for >>541779112
a whole solar farm just burned down in texas
Solarniggers always underestimate the actual costs of their solar plants. It's great for some decentralized power generation by putting PV on rooftops, but fuck off with using large agricultural fields for dumping PV panels or molten salt mirror faggotry.Go nuclear for a stable, constant power supply and let the hippies have a windmill or solar panel or two to feel good about themselves.
Oil respresents a solar battery that took millions of years to fill. Theres simply no way to harvest solar today in any way that compares to oil. Also, infrastructure like this can only be made and sustained with petrochemicals. Run out of oil and the whole green economy goes with it. The future is a return to 19th century living conditions and technology.
>>541784574Did you know that if the whole world adopted nuclear, the recoverable uranium reserves would be gone within 20 years
>>541776593true, solar troughs are even better. cheaper, simpler, more power output.we could turn africa into a power house and solve all energy problems
>>541784574>nuclear>stable>constantKekhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-07-30/france-shuts-off-more-nuclear-power-as-heat-builds-across-europeRest, i second.
>>541784647>solar troughsparabolic trough
>>541776879you have to dig far down
complex technology xD
>>541784622There's more Uranium in the Earth's crust than Tin. With current, limited mining capacity combined with 100% of the Earth's power needs being met by nuclear it'd run out in 20 years perhaps, but with improved mining techniques (e.g. recovery from seawater), used Uranium recovery and alternate fuel types (Uranium, Plutonium, etc) there is easily enough nuclear potential to supply the world until the sun kills us all or we manage fusion power or whatever. Whichever comes first.
>>541776593>>541777056>mirrors lasts 1000s of years Not in real conditions where there's dirt, grime, wind, dust, organisms, snow, ice, heat/thaw cycles that all work to degrade and occlude the panels, not to mention corrosion of contacts, degredation of seals from UV and the aforementioned weather conditions.>>541776593Not in solar panels, but you do need them for inverters, motors, and other equipment needed to make use of solar panels. Stirling engines aren't used because they have a terrible power output for their size, weight, and complexity. Nuclear is still the best option and we can still massively improve upon it.
>get solar panels>costs €20k>costs even more with a battery >costs €500 a year for someone to come clean them.My bills are about €150 for 2 months in the summer (when solar works).How many thousands of years for the solar to pay for itself?
>>541776593Solar on a massive systematic scale in desert regions, a bit over 1%, of the planet, would reduce albido to such an extent that it actually increases the total heat energy taken in by the system. It's a supplementary technology, not a cure and it's best use is in urban environments where it would simultaneously be more efficient reducing transmission losses in more energy being utilized where it's produced, save on material infrastructure costs and maintenance, reduce the urban heat island effect, in doing so reduce energy consumption for cooling, and not significantly decrease albido from existing environment.
>>541776735What are you taking about? They reduced my annual power bill from €600 to €0. Don't care about rising electricity costs. Cost me €6000 to install. Predicted lifespan 15-20 years.
>>541784883Problem with nuclear is it means a transition to electricity when 80% of our current energy use is still combustion engines. Youd have to rebuild the worlds diesel and petrol fleets to EV or some other inferior alternative. Diesel stores 40x more energy by weight than lithium battery. You cant mine with a machine whos fuel tank weighs 40x as much or has 1/40th the runtime per charge.Whatever way you look at it, a world on anything but oil looks inferior, expensive and maybe impossible to maintain. So many complex systems rely on a oil and gas products and advanced manufacturing may become mostly impossible without it. Even coal is vital to steel manufacturing. You couldnt even make a fraction of steel needed with electric furnaces.
>>541784574nonwhites running the powerplants will ensure the destruction of them, this is the fact you losers always forget
>>541785347Your inverter will pack up within 10 years and your panel efficiency will plummet after 10 years. You spent 10 years worth of electric bills to have a gadget on your roof that will just about break even.
>>541776593Solar fields are an excuse energy companies give to own land. Nuke plants are a better option. The best option is for people to stop using electricity all together.
>>541777746Absolutely, if you assume eqatorial mid day sun year round with no clouds and no nights.
