Fake:>Putin personally came up with the idea of invading UkraineReal:>The idea was floated by Russian military and political elites since 2014, and Ukraine's actions only solidified this position and caused Kremlin to act on itFake:>If Putin dies or is removed, the war ends.Real:>Put is a manager. He is not the state or the Russian deepstate. The entire Russian military-political leadership sees Ukraine as an imminent threat that needs to be neutralised at all costs.Fake:>Russia's invasion of Ukraine is illegal and unjustifiedReal:>Objective legality exists only in domestic law. In international law legality is subjective and malleable, this is why every treaty ever signed uses ambiguous language to protect its signatories from becoming cornered. The invasion is legal by Russia's own legal framework, and illegal by Ukraine's legal framework, ambiguous under USA's legal framework. As for whether it was justified - Russia invoked R2P mandate in order to justify it.Fake:>Russia is committing genocide in UkraineReal:>Civilian casualties are exceptionally low for a war of this scale, precisely because Russia avoids causing collateral damage. Smaller wars like Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Gaza had significantly more civilian casualties than Ukraine.
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>>541783703Not sure how anyone can support Ukraine against Russia. They had been secretly financing terrorists in eastern Ukraine to eradicate and displace the majority Russian speaking population for decades, Putin finally had enough and sent soldiers to liberate his people from this unwarranted terrorist activity. Zelensky is a jew drug addict who cannot be trusted and brought this on himself, he has misused hundreds of billions of western taxpayer dollars for his own benefit while sending his people to die in a pointless and completely avoidable conflict.
Zionist Jew YouTuber: "Claiming Jews were behind Iraq War is 'BLOOD LIBEL.'"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUA2Sy3jAZE&t=6013s(1:40:13)>"oy vey goyim, let us lie and deceive the public and give us the oil and let us establish a rothschild bank"They aren't even making an effort to hide it anymore.Total neocon death.PNAC was a terrorist group — “NEW PEARL HARBOR” = 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOBNeoconservatism = Jewish supremacyThe Straussian cabal must be exposed.
Fake:>OP is white and knows what he is talking aboutReal:>OP is brown and has an IQ of below 80
>>541783831>eradicate and displace the majority Russian speaking population for decadesGood, we should increase the fundingRusniggers haven't suffered enough yet
>>5417837034.5 civilians killed in the war on terror
>>541783703they invaded ukraine in 2014-5 with crimea and later when they salvaged the separatist that were surrounded about to loose. i remember that because i followed that shit closely because it was unreal what was happening in supposedly the 2nd world .newfags can remember that rusia was seen as a eu peer not a shithole like today
>>541783831>They had been secretly financing terrorists in eastern Ukraine to eradicate and displace the majority Russian speaking population for decades, Putin finally had enough and sent soldiers to liberate his people from this unwarranted terrorist activityThis literally did not happen, t. Michael, from Texas oblast. The entire rationale of the unprovoked invasion of Ukraine is based upon the imperialist ambitions of the manlet-boomer dictator running the country. The entire world understands this, and therefore hates russians. The only people who support russia in this world are Africans, Indians, and other formerly colonized countries who want to see Europe's destruction, so thats why they support Russias murder of Europeans.
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>>541783966Evil.
>>541783703the west loves to talk about equality, but i guess that doesnt matter when they go on rampages to slaugher civilians, very strange
>>541783929oh look its you lol
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>>541783952This
>>541783703have a bump, reading seething glownigger posts is always fun
>>541784050Johan Johansson from Bergen oblast I presume?
>>541783703>international lawass wipe paper>invasiontechnically didnt happened because territories of lpr and dpr seceded from ukraine years before "invasion" when they became russia and technically this is ukraine on russian territories now.
>>541783831same as lots of women now support Lindsay Whateverdumb uneducated "we against them" brainwashing
>>541783703What are you talking about? They DID invade Ukraine in 2014, violating the Budapest memorandum.And every action taken by Ukraine since then has been motivated by that action. Russia created a self-fulfilling prophecy of hatred against them as usual.In fact they should kick you out. Ivan diaspora are a clear national security risk.
>>541785504>They DID invade Ukraine in 2014,phones appeared in that region only in 2022 how poor these fuckers are who cant record a video or photo evidence of 2014 invasion dumb slavniggers. Remember Bucha!
>>541783831Something like 306 Russian civilians were killed in eastern Ukraine, vs something like 3400 Ukrainian civilians. The majority of deaths were however combatants, totalling something like 6000-7000 Ukrainian soldiers and around 7000 pro-Russian forces.As for the current figures, it's something like 16000 Ukrainian civilians killed and 48000 wounded vs something like 1000 Russia civilians killed.Here is a tip. Russia lies. It's part of Russian culture to lie. You can never trust anything they say ever.
>>541785504>violating the Budapest memorandumWhat did USA say about the Budapest Memorandum?Ah yes, that USA provided "security assurances" instead of "security guarantees" within the memorandum framework. Which essentially means, that USA does not hold any obligation to get involved in protecting Ukraine, if it doesn't suit USA's interests. Like I said in my OP: international law is subjective, and its sole purpose is to serve the interests of the signatories. All in all, a treaty is followed only when it is beneficial. And it cannot cause an end to world history
>>541785731>Something like 306 Russian civilians were killed in eastern Ukraine, vs something like 3400 Ukrainian civilianslol this statement by itself doesn't even make any sense. How do you distinguish between "Russian civilians" and "Ukrainian civilians" if they both live in the same region, and both hold Ukrainian citizenship.
>>541785731Millions of ukranians have fled the warzone. They don't stay in their houses waiting for their children to get bombed and then flapping around their dead bodies for cnn
>>541785923It's almost like Russian missiles and bombs are so shit and inaccurate they just land where ever, then Russia goes on TV and says actually that hospital was full of soldiers, or that school was stockpiling dangerous russiophobic weaponry.
>>541785974more civilian single-use buildings were harmed by failed anti-air missile launches in Ukraine, than by Russian ballistic/cruise missiles
>>541785974>>541786097it's almost likely every statement pro-Ukrainians say about Russia ends up being a projection, alwaysyou still need to answer to this btw >>541785875
>>541786097>They bombed themselvesYeah sure. Yet when a Russian anti-air missile explodes and rains fire over a beach in Russia, it's somehow Ukraines fault?
>>541786132How did Russia determine Russians were being killed in eastern Ukraine when they're all in the same region and hold Ukrainian citizenship?
>>541786188>How did Russia determine Russians were being killed in eastern Ukraine when they're all in the same region and hold Ukrainian citizenship?well that's a question that you need to answer, Mosheyou are the one who stated X amount of Russian civilians died in eastern Ukraine.So I assume you had a reliable source?
>>541786161>Yeah sure. Yet when a Russian anti-air missile explodes and rains fire over a beach in Russia, it's somehow Ukraines fault?air defence missiles don't come with cluster-warhead munitions
>>541786253Russia is the one who claimed Ukraine was indiscriminately killing Russians and that is why they needed to invade.How did they identify who was Russian? Well?
>>541786285I can answer you how they identified them, but first we need to settle one question before I do that.Do you admit that you pulled those russian/ukrainian civilian casualties out of your ass, or from yellow press?
>>541783703The ukraine war is fake as fuck. Putin and zelensky are working together to extract all money from Europe.
>>541783757Show flag kike
>>541786346Ukraine referred to them as Russian separatists in its media.That’s the answer to your question. Ukraine said that they are russians.
>>541786346answer to pirate tardsry misclicked
>>5417862851. Everyone who lives in Eastern Ukraine speaks Russian and Ukrainian languages.2. Everyone who lives in Eastern Ukraine holds/held (before 2022) citizenship of Ukraine, and therefore was an Ukrainian citizen.3. The only thing that differentiated them as "Ukrainian" or "Russian" was family history, marriage, and political beliefs.So when it is said that "Russian civilians" were being killed, it was referred to all civilians in Eastern Ukraine, because culturally, and by family ties, they are more Russian than Western Ukrainians.I really doubt they asked "what is your family history" before killing them. All of them were Ukrainian citizens, but Russian culturally/politically.This is why your statement about Russian/Ukrainian death ratio makes no sense, and shows that you have zero understanding of this conflict.
>>541786285show ur flag and ill explain it
>>541783703The US backed war on Afghanistan, Iraq and Gaza all followed they typical US model of 'collateral damages is just part of war, no biggie'. This is the mindset that saw the major war crimes of WWII being committed by the UK/US allies in Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Tokyo with casualties of well over 500,000
>>541786161it's a tranny raid.
Day 1,673 of the 3 day special security operation
how do you know a russian is lying?
