How many jobs does a data center generate?
>>541797363Janitor... couple of jeets with fake CS degrees.
>>541797363Contract work for 10/365 days.
10 H1B jeets.
>>5417973633-5 supervisors is enough when everything (even floor cleaning) automatised.
>>541797363How many jobs does a coal power plant generate?
The ones in my area have fired their tech staff and replaced them with low paid security guards>thinking of building my own data center with hookers and black jack now
>>541797363After its built probably not many but soon they are going to need military level security for the data centers so that would be a chill job
>>541797789The plant itself, a couple of hundred, the mine that supplies the coal a couple of hundred more.The best tax dollar to job creation ratio is maintaince of civil infrastructure, filling potholes, fixing footpaths, mowing parks etc.
1 gate guard. 1-3 guys to look at security cameras. 1 guy to check the AC. 1 supervisor. 1-10 h1b tech retards. MAYBE an electrician.and 100 lobbyists.
>>541797789a lot, increased available power directly translates into a better economy. whereas an "ai data center" is an energy suck producing nothing
So, a handful of jobs. Got it.>>541797891I'm reminded of this
i don’t want to be this guy in one of these gay threads but has trump ever actually had a real job
>>541797363Not that many, but unless your state is retarded like Louisiana, they pay a lot of property taxes while being about as low impact as any industrial facility can be.
>>541798017>has the nepobaby of a nepobaby had a real jobTake a guess anon.
>>541797363Simple, dont build them in residential areas. Why the fuck do they have to be in residential areas lol.
>>541797363The real question is how many will it take away
>>541798030This would be reasonable. I wouldn't even care if they offered some incentive to the community to approve them. A fund for the public, shares of the company, or just paying their fair share of taxes and energy.But so many communities are giving them massive tax breaks to move in. Then with 80IQ planning, not even accounting for the energy or water displacement.
>>541798017He uhhhh worked that McDonald's window last election cycle
>>541798085They need to be close to major power grids and mains water supplies.In a sane world we would point out they have trillions in VC and should build their own infrastructure but in clown world we'll let them build between the water reservoir and the city and deal with water shortages in cities with tax dollars later.
>>541797363dont care neet4life ahahaha
>>541797363>You fucking rubes are too stupid to make Deals!>I guess you don't want gold plated Home Depot ornaments hanging around your swampy pool!>Thanks for the votes, you backwards assholes!He chose Epstein over his base. SAD!!!
>>541797363The entire profit model of AI/datacenters is based on eliminating jobs lol
>>541797363Average seems to be 12.
>>541797789way more because virtual stuff is inherently easier to manage than physical stuff
>>5417973633 or 4 for your average data center with 2 or 3 being security guards
>>541797363negative 6 million
>>541797363It'll create revolutionaries who will bring about the proletariat revolution.
>>541798186communities don't always get the final say. they can vote one thing, then be overruled by the state.
>>541798259Yeah make them build powerplants to our specs and supply overflow to our grids, they can even profit some from that, what is the problem everyone wins. Why dont they do? Takes too long?
>>541797789hundreds?
>>541797363Actually about 12. Though as someone said they're all H1Bs.
>>541797363wtf i love data centers now?!
>>541798737Takes too long and why would they spend the extra money when it's way cheaper to buy politicians.
JUST SUT THE FUCK UP AND LET CORPOS TAKE ALL YOUR TOWN'S LAND, WATER, AND ELECTRICITY SO WE CAN KEEP BUILDING THE MACHINE THAT WILL TAKE YOUR JOB AND MAYBE EVENTUALLY YOUR LIFE. IF YOU DON'T AGREE YOU ARE A CHINK OR WORSE, A DEMOCRAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER - PRESIDENT DUMBASS J FUCKDARD
>>541798186They do. Look at Loudon, VA. They benefit from data centers quietly generating tax revenue.Data center opposition in a lot of places is just nimby boomer opposition to any development or economic activity. They just want to collect SS, disability, and Medicare and not have an actual economy based on doing things.
>>541798259>water shortagesTheir closed circuit cooling loops use less water than municipal golf courses. This isn't a serious complaint.
>>541799119Depends, if they use a water / water intercooler with the cooling line running to the city it's fine.If they run a water / air intercooler they often need to mist the intercoolers same as nuclear power plants.It is true that power is the bigger concern especially as they want to run 24/7 and won't shut down at peak times.
>>541798857I'd just think having your own power supply seems like a wise investment, especually if we let it be a profitable asset for them as well. Like why pay some shitty revolving chair every few years that might not even work and allows for radical shifts in your setup in the future, if you could sell being allowed to build a datacenter AND a powerplant AND put it all somewhere away from residential so the movement that is completely undermining your expansion dies out which it would if no one could see them unless its just too late because they didnt aim to be self-sufficient from the begining
>>541799296I think all of them understand it's the dotcom bubble all over again and most of them won't survive the next 10 years.One model will win and maybe a second can be slightly worse and cheaper but there won't be a dozen of them.Making a long term investment like a powerplant that lasts 50+ years is a hard sell to investors that only care about the next quarter.
>>541797363"Generating jobs" is not the ultimate goal of economic activity, generating in-demand goods and services is. If you accept any economic framing that is not centered around real productivity you are some flavour of communist
>>541797976Let me guessMegacorps will start getting their own militarized security forces. And national governments will become much less powerful than they were during the 20th century. New consumer computer hardware will be extremely expensive or difficult to source (see: RAM 2027 outlook). We are in a really gay cyberpunk dystopia
>>541799461>stock buybacks are communist
>>541797363Hundreds of thousands, if not millions.>manufacturing and maintenance for the buildings, which themselves require workers in concrete, steel, glass, doors and windows, ventilation, AC, plumbing, electricity, janitors, landscaping, etc. >manufacturing and maintenance for the servers, which requires steel, aluminium, plastic and microchips, electricians and IT workers>next is security and management of staff, which requires security guards, HR and accountants, also very likely on-site cooks>all of the above also have a chain of further requirements, such as jobs in mining and processing metals, transportation and/or car manufacturing, electricity generation and maintenance of the grid, clothes making, farming, infrastructure maintenance, various services for the employees outside of work, etc.
>>541799519That is an action and not a framing (category error)
>>541797363No idea, but he does point out that it's a race between China and the US with AI datacenters.
>>541797363Roughly 20. About 2 or 3 for Americans.
>>541799617Anon you need to understand the scale of construction and the supply lag involved.No one is going to build a new steel mill producing reenforcement for the concrete used in a short term construction boom, demand will spike, supply will stay the same and prices will increase. Same goes for the quarries providing the agrigate and sand.It'll generate well paying construction jobs for a couple of years because they want them built now and need to pay well to get priority but after that it'll be a dozen jeets handling operations.>>541799694It's a major economic activity that meets the current incentive structure.>CEO gets job>CEO gets bonus for line go up>force line up>leave before long term problems with focusing on line instead of production appearThis is the current corporate incentive structure and Boeing is the posterchild.
>>541797363There is data center of a mining company here and I doubt they have 40 people working there (if you count all shifts). Keep in mind it’s a really big warehouse.If you want to know what is the next step in the propaganda, they’ll drop the creating jobs and improving the economy meme, they’ll just talk about nationalism o algo. I know because they did this here
>>541799461Generating goods and services is useless if no one can buy them.
>>541799902>racefirst the US have like 5x as many data centers as any other country?
>>5417973635 jobs for Indian H1B Jeets 2 obese security guards 1 janitor
>>541797363Let's see how many jobs are lost due to rising energy prices caused by datacenters first.
>>541797363Jobs ? Why ? >Friedman: "Why aren't you using tractors and bulldozers to build this canal?">Government Official: "You don't understand, Mr. Friedman. This is a jobs program. If we used machines, all these people wouldn't have jobs.">Friedman: "Oh, I see. Then if it's truly a jobs program and not a canal-building project, why don't you take away their shovels and give them spoons?"
>>541797789An absolute shitload
Good question
