Could small towns ever make a return? What would it take?
>>541797871For picrel, the end of car culture. More valuable land is dedicated to the road than the buildings. And look at how tiny the sidewalks are. Why would anyone want to spend time there?
>>541797871The future is remote workers from the bay descending like locusts over every township west of the Mississippi
>>541797871community. getting the locals involved. someone with a vision that can inspire the locals and get them off their asses, out of their houses, and participate in local events. the locals however need to have a massive change in mindset. many people work and work and work, homes stand empty until the sun goes down, people are always going away, going out of town, going on vacation. residents need to be present.
>>541798040I don't talk to my neighbors anyway
>>541797871manufacturing centered around internal waterways and railroads
>>541797871Nope. People live only where the jobs are and 90% of jobs are now corporate. You also voted for it btw.
>>541797871They need data centers.
>>541798034>And look at how tiny the sidewalks are.if the sidewalks are that small, how will there be room for all the immigrants selling spoiled food from carts and tables full of stolen items??what about muh hustle and bustle??there's no benches for the homeless to sleep on!!! this is hostile architecture and fascism.do better.
>>541797871There will be always small towns because not everyone like to living in mage-cities.
I dont think sotheir best shot was remote work and attracting people who can work on laptops choosing to live in cheaper placesbut since remote work was killed in favor of indians and raising values of city real estate they're doneall these places were build around factories around them and all that shits in china nowtheir only selling point is cheap housing but now it doesnt matter since you will also make shit money (if you even find a job at all since there's fuck all to do) everyone will just keep moving to larger and larger cities where everything is more and more expensive
>>541797871Gainful employment that isn't gatekept behind boomer councils, combined with walkable infrastructure. Young people and young families would be insanely happy to move to these places if they could make a living and also live in a real place where they can be with people IRL every single day. Nobody likes their screen anymore and the small downtown squares that still exist are the perfect place to build walkable mixed-use neighborhoods where small business can flourish. The only problem are the boomer councils that demand nothing change and the total lack of non-corporate money in America as >>541798233says. >>541798224The nice thing about these small towns is that many of them are already built around waterways and railroads because they were founded before mass availability of cars. Probably the only real way to do it would be to bind a bunch of young people/families together and just carpetbag one of these places as a big group using piled up city money.
>>541797871Small towns were always powered by local industry. Yeah, industry is finally making a comeback, but forty years of deliberate destruction can't be repaired overnight.
>>541797871>What would it take?vertical integration of the supply chain of local shops. you need to say no to the corporate jew and control everything down to the bottling plant and farm and sweet producer and flour mill. just institute total protectionism, just on a local scale. outsiders extracting money out of your locally owned, vertically integrated, supply chain, should find it as hard getting the last shekel out of the cold dead hand of a rabbi.
No, not for most places. The distance from work, no jobs, and reluctance of young people to drive as much as old people is just gonna destroy all these small towns, they would already be gone if young people weren't also reluctant to move.It's really hard to entice someone to move to your town when land is still 10's of thousands an acre, and said land is sat on by someone who's been sitting on it for 50 years.
>>541798034KYS bikefag
>>541798034>>541798126You're both correct but these are connected. Most people today have been brainwashed into becoming antiscoial recluses who just work and watch netflix or whatever. And cars make it super easy to do that, you never have to interact with your neighbors.Small towns and big cities actually face this exact same problem, the only difference is in big cities the void was filled by a mass influx of niggers. In small towns they just remain empty.
Small towns will return out of necessity when you can no longer chuck some dino juice in your car and go 100 miles without even feeling the cost. Try pushing that car 100 miles to next town and you realise the energy blessing that oil is.In 20-40 years time most of the world will have returned to small town based living, with local supply chains.
>>541798278LMAO are you saying that you would willingly spend time in that absolute shithole? Because if not, you are just incoherently screeching like a libtard would.Cucked retards like you are exactly why this country is in a state of managed decline. You are so scared of being called racist that you would rather drive thru or around "problem" areas. Instead of, you know, just arresting/executing/deporting the problems.>>541798734I don't even own a bike, but I do own a car. However, unlike you I actually own mine. Have fun paying $800+ a month to lease a truck for the rest of your life, while gaslighting yourself that it's you own free will or w/e.
>>541798040lol, remote work is done in the west because we don't manufacture anything. Let's not forget that when it's remote, it can also be done in India so it's only a matter of time.
>>541797871They're still there. Small towns are famous for having always sucked. They're doing a bit worse these days, but they're essentially the same as always.
>>541797871They never dissapeared here, take some lessons
>>541797871capital is too concentrated. there would need to be a viable way for it to be distributed in an economical way where middle americans could still participate.
>>541798700Based but this would take massive ingroup preference and resistance to convenience. Local stuff is gonna cost more at the start, you have to convince people to willingly lower their QOL (temporarily) and it creates a prisoners dilemma situation.In other words you need people regularly interacting with their neighbors, not just sitting at home, driving to work, working, and driving back. That way social pressure becomes high enough that people will bear the cost.
drive through the heartland/midwest recently, the actual small towns where it’s like a post office and a main street and a motel, no way and there’s a LOT of those towns
>>541797871Small towns like this were built for the purposes of resource extraction, or to center around cheap manufacturing for a single industry.Once the land was raped of its coal or whatever, and the workers became too organized/expensive to be profitably exploited, the employers took their money and ran.The fix to this is to stop making profit the driving force in society, where "investors" can just build whatever they want to make the most money with zero consequences for abandoning entire communities whenever it suits them. Communities need to be built intentionally and sustainably, with the people who live there being the primary focus and not the potential returns for the shareholders.
>>541797871They're returning in some areas like the Mountain West to function as remote work hotspots and open air hospices for retirees and Californians. Just with zero adequite medical cares for hours and a reliance on lifeflight, but shit cell service so people die.There is zero functional economy. The nearest mills, mines, or factory closed like 30+ yrs ago. The only jobs are government jobs, dollar general, the gas station, and Walmart (if it's a county seat).
>>541797871touch grass faggot
>>541797871>What would it take?HSR/thread
>>541797871Lots of fucking and sucking
>>541799670Never gonna happen. Farmers are some of the main people suing the HSR in Texas, California, etc. HSR is overrated anyway because most people commute to and from areas within their metro area. If it's over an hour drive from a city of 200k or more than it's not a functioning part of the modern economy.
>>541797871Manufacturing. Which will never happen in America because so many countries are full of people who will work for 1/4 of what Americans need for even subsistence. Then on top of that the globalist are at war with us trying to denude us. They have already destroyed our ability to project power and have infiltrated our government with people who hate American liberty and freedom of speech.Even though I think the democrats are going to be trounced because they can't commit massive voter fraud, there really is nobody on the right who will continue to force more fair trade.These buildings, like the soul of America and tbe American dream, will continue to rot.
>>541798034>Why would anyone want to spend time there?I live in Smalltown, USA. Our original 19th century downtown is still intact. Some might even say thriving. There's a couple bars, a couple of cafes, two restaurants, a coffee shop, a clothing store, an antique shop or two, and some other stuff I never looked into too much. There's an electronic repair shop, for example, a garage, a model train store, etc. Wide sidewalks with benches, trees, seasonal potted plants, a church and a park nearby, where every single weekend from spring until harvest there's a farmer's market.The original mid-1800s train stop/station is still there next to the tracks that are still used. It's a museum now. There's even another little museum with lots of great exhibits on local history and how this town (and area in general) were crucial to the State's development via its part in the logging and mining industries.There's a two-lane road running through the middle of it, with angled parking on both sides. Ample parking all around. 8ft wide sidewalks on either side.The whole place is packed. Every single day of the week. From breakfast time until closing time.You don't have to rage about muh cars because you're a gay, homosexual faggot. You just have to have good planners or, alternatively, get people with brains to take part in the planning process.
>>541797871Distribution of production.
>>541798034the end of car culture would kill small towns faster you retarded faggotgo back to /n/
>>541798400>>541798530>>541798704Have you ever talked to any young people from a small town who had ambitions of doing anything other than working at the local lumber mill (assuming it's still operational) or in a trade overcharging transplants (nice gig desu there's zero competition and transplants will pay metro prices to get their plumbing fixed asap)? Or doing anything other than working whatever job they can get at dollar general or Walmart?The ambitious people there who go to college, go to trade school, or join a union trade job don't come back. They move with zero intention of ever coming back. The locals suck ass. There are no jobs. There is no music scene. The cuisine sucks. The food is a few days from expiring before it even gets sold at the store. Everything closes by like 8pm. It's cheap for a reason. The people who stay are the biggest fucking losers ever and usually are alcoholics/tweakers, have kids by the time they're in the mid-20s, and live off of welfare fraud as well. Everything is the same as it was 30 years ago. There is no high speed internet usually. Starlink changed this somewhat, but it's not the same and as more people sign up it gets slower. You have to plan everything out well in advance. If you fuck up and forget gas, groceries, etc you're fucked. You have to plan for the weather. For winter when all the roads are barely plowed because the government sucks. Every year there are fires.It's not any cheaper to live in many of these small towns than a rust belt city. The housing just as expensive except there's nothing to actually do and no job or local economy. The locals are old as fuck. Nobody has any disposable income so opening a business is out of the question. Every year small town main street hollow out more and more every year. It's just depressing as fuck.
>>541798997Posters like>>541798278are the boomer council. They learned in their youth that you should use cars to run away from blacks/browns and should not try to keep your actual real walkable communities by standing your ground instead. So they confuse car dependency with independence and immediately think anybody who opposes cars is trying to put them directly into a ghetto. They have no capacity to think otherwise, and they will insist that the shitty small towns they own die exactly how they are right now.
>>541800131manufacturing really is at the crux of it all. i was watching rambo first blood the other night and i thought to myself how every single thing, from clothes to vehicles to electronics, was manufactured in the US in those times. now virtually nothing is made here except overpriced armaments from government contractors and that's only because they can't legally outsource it
>>541800211I live in Smalltown too. The automobile business here is a lifeline. Without abundant, cheap oil, our town, frankly, just wouldn't survive! I'm proud to be an American and live in the greatest country on earth (with cars!) Faggots and homosexuals can go fuck themselves, along with the kikes, who oppose petroleum products due to being gay and jewish.
>>541800501>The ambitious people there who go to college, go to trade school, or join a union trade job don't come back.Yeah, because all the jobs are in the city, the exact problem I described in the post you're responding to. Every other downside of small town Americana in 2026 is downstream of that. People would LOVE to live in small town America if it were at all possible, they just can't because every small town is bereft of economy and nobody there wants it to change due to being 100% decrepit boomers whose lead brains hate noise. It's ironic since nearly all of those boomers just live on a country road near the town but still insist on it dying.
>>541797871these buildings still cost 500k+ and most of them are being sat on by people who are just going to die with it rotting. There's a building in a town of 600 nearby going for 8 million. even if you manage to buy one. the village ran by senile old folk dont want the town to change so you can't really do much with the building that would cater to the upcoming generation.
>>541797871Remote work, which should already be a thing but boomer retards are still in power. There’s not much reason to actually live in a city if you work from a computer
>>541799297Absolutely. It would need to be at root an ideological movement. What people used to do by necessity, rely on their neighbors, must now be done deliberately.
>>541798997>that you would willingly spend time in that absolute shitholeThe entire country is a shit hole
>>541798034>the end of car culture
Brown people with money, see Rt. 66
541797871 (OP)Definitely, but only in places with favorable climates and solar vouchers. Kinda gay though. Large cities are more politically vital, niggers belong in the hinterlands.
>>541800780This but halve their salaries to keep local prices down
>>541797871They can and they will. Big cities serve no purpose in the age of the internet. They are just playgrounds for yuppie faggots. The affordability of home and lower cost of living in small towns will pull people away from the cities. Why would you pay half your income for housing when all your job requires is an internet connection? It's silly
>>541797871Manufacturing.
>>541797871Increases in the amount of remote work has already helped many of them. Although people in those areas only see this as home prices increasing, part of that increase is the cysts of the large cities getting lanced by remote work. Thus allowing many of the people who actually produce the wealth of those cities to leave while remaining employed, while the niggers and eaters like >>541798034 are stuck with the billYou can see how badly the Jew hates remote work, constantly trying to claw it back because they own so much city real estate and need someone to pay for the graft and gibs. And try to convince you that your car is the problem haha (None of this is to say that the home price issue is entirely due to this of course)
>>541800455If this theory is true, then small towns must not have existed before car culture did. However, it isn't because you're a retarded oil shill.>>541800507>They have no capacity to think otherwiseDo you think it's from huffing all the leaded gas fumes for years?>>541800830Yeah, because boomers turned it into picrel.>>541800843Better than a oil cuck license.
remove jews, shut down global shipping bullshitIt's better to make things in house, we shouldnt be shipping everything worldwide.Secure the borders and isolate.
>>541800455Car culture is exactly what killed small towns. Employers used to have to locate their businesses where people lived. A town would spring up tightly clustered around a local industry. Now they can force their goyslaves to drive an hour both ways from their sprawling suburban wasteland to an urban downtown.Mass centralization and the destruction of the local is directly enabled by cars.
>>541797871>Could small towns ever make a return?No.
>>541797871GARBAGE THREAD
>>541801313So you're unemployed, unemployable and don't own a vehicle?
>>541801313desegregation player a large part in recent history. detroit is the perfect case study, as niggers moved into formerly white neighborhoods in the city the whites left for the suburbs, preferring to commute over living near niggers and rightly so
>>541801342Are you really too stupid to tell the difference between rural/exurbs and a small town?A guy living in the woods by himself is not a 'town' at all.
>>541799297>this would take massive ingroup preference and resistance to convenience.yes, if you want to beat the jew, you need to become the jew.
>>541801467I work from home, the more traditional approach as opposed to a commute which was invented whole cloth by Jews in the 1960s.
>>541797871>>541800704>>541798224>>541800131Could small towns make a comeback? The answer is no. Manufacturing isn't coming back because it's expensive to produce in America, the workforce isn't there, the tooling and raw materials aren't there, the infrastructure isn't there. There's also the massive issue that industry in first world countries is automated and needs a fraction of the workforce to operate.Here's a list of things that aren't produced in America anymore that all feed into each other and need to be in close proximity to each other to benefit from a network effect.Machine Tools, Forgings, Dies, Carbide, Metrology equipment (Starrett is owned by PE), Steel, Aluminum, End Mills, Ball Screws, Linear Ways, Indexable Insert tools, most workholding that isn't Kurt, specialty steels other than Carpender Tech, Castings, Hand tools (most aren't made here and I can buy Japan or European made for 1/2 the cost or less), electronics parts, semiconductors, electrical test equipment, optical equipment (Germany), electronics assembly equipment, pcbs, etc. I could keep going but I think you get the point.It's cheaper west of the Rockies to import Steel and Aluminum from Asia not just because of labor and all that, but because the transport cost are insane. One train can have 600 cars of items. Going over the rockies capacity is limited. A massive cargo ship like those from Asia can hold 24,300 TEUs and weight capacity is like unlimited. That's like 2430 intermodal train cars. It can haul 240k tons of cargo. A maximum capacity train car can haul less than a 1/20th - 1/16th of that over the rockies. This isn't even to mention the strain it would put on the rail infrastructure to do it.You're fighting not just economic reality, but physics.
>>541801757mercantilism will likely make a major return in our lifetimes
Many of the things like hexavalent hard chrome plating is just basically illegal to do in the US.
>>541797871Shut off the Internet, kill all bankers, kill all politicians, then maybe.
>>541797871No. They're just open air retirement homes for broke white trash that don't want any actual economic activity to come to their towns. All economic activity should be downstream of their SS and disability checks, and any young people that aren't also living on disability fraud exist to wipe boomer asses.
>>541801720Careful, the average /pol/tard will spend $50/day and 1 hour of their time driving to their goycattle daycare job, tell you it's a good thing, and that they totally have a choice in the matter.
>>541801720>I work from home,Of course you do. Post pics of your home office with timestamp.
>>541797871Small towns are the way they are bc of the ppl within the small towns. 20% control everything and will not let it go due to jealousy of their neighbors. 30% are decent hardworking ppl but here is little opportunity due to the 20%. 50% are either drunks, drug addicts, or don’t work. Usually all 3. Everything closes at 3pm and nothing is open Sunday. You have to drive miles to get to Walmart for shit food. There are no restaurants. Stores have little inventory which makes it hard to get stuff you need or get supplies to make stuff. Small towns are very insular and don’t welcome outsiders. Small city councils or govs make it difficult to build anything and are mired in incompetence. Church culture makes ppl feel moral just while being petty with their neighbors. This is odd because there is an huge amount of cheating and Sex going on between seemingly normal ppl. The married lady at the dry cleaner will try to fuck you bc she is bored. The sports coach is fucking some high school girl or two old people fuck behind the gas station every night for booze. There is a seedy underbelly. Anyone who disagrees is coping or has never interacted with small town folks. Some are good. Most are not. T. Traveling contractor who restored historic homes of rich people in remote areas. The hardest part of my job is dealing with the retarded people in the small towns i work. They get nothing done and are happy to do nothing all day long. Immensely frustrating. Everything takes 5x as long in a small town. God help you if you piss off the cops and get on their shit list. They will make your life hell. Just avoid small towns unless you have an actual reason to be there.
>>541802081>goycattle daycare jobWhat's a "goycattle daycare" and how much does a job there pay? Post pics of your home office with timestamp.
>>541797871End Jewish prison slavery.
>>541798034FPBP imagine thinking tripping should mean you die. Cars as P nlic infrastructure are Jewish. Who owns the oil companies? Rothschilds.
>>541801846In China, Japan or even Europe most of the factories are located nearby all of each other or with terrain that is mostly flat the European plain. They have extensive canal and port facilities. The rails are state owned in much of Europe. So no insane freight cost. They don't have some dumb political agenda of reviving each and every dying town and promising the moon to people. Distributed manufacturing doesn't work in a modern economy. In shenzhen engineers can go for model to prototype in a week and have everything done. In America it'll take that long for them at minimum to come back with a quote. America is incapable of planning vertically integrated infrastructure and production in the way China, Korea, and Japan have it. Each metro area in East Asia has a purpose.China is overpowered industrially. It’s like they learned everything from the Economic Shock Therapy of former Warsaw Pact (decided that was dogshit), learned from Korea and Japan, and internal experiences. They came to asynthesis where key input industries like steel, defense, chemicals, petrochemicals, minerals, finance, telecoms, utilities, and machine tools remain State owned Enterprises.Then they took that central planning capacity for infrastructure to create vertically integrated supply chains that less vital sectors could build off of.So instead of mass deindustrialization and unemployment it provides a platform for further economic growth with cheap inputs. Westerners, Africa, India, and other Asian countries can’t compete with it. Their labor isn’t even cheap by global standards anymore it’s just they have everything so perfectly integrated. It’s what happens when you have much of the government made up of by engineers. It’s amazing.Tbf Japan and Korea already have fairly vertically integrated industry and pretty logical planning within a Capitalist system, but they also just don't have the natural resources and people that China does.
>>541802089euro plugs are so goofy, like a child's toy
>>541800780Remote work is irrelevant. Nobody smart enough to get a well paying remote job.is going to want their peers to be slobs whose highest ambition is a new retarded tattoo.If you're single, the dating pool sucks. Even doctor salaries with substantial bonuses can't attract new MDs to Hicksville.
>>541797871You would need to build up the middle class by manufacturing things in the country and selling them to other countries. Basically a Marshall plan but after we bomb the other countries into rubble and they need our brick kilns
>>541797871decentralization and massive tax cuts for employers in manufacturing and production who serve rural towns.
>>541801757Yeah trash post. First, all the manufactured goods you claim aren't made in America infact are available made in America. Second, the "Its too expensive" soundbite is directly from corporate CEOs stealing half of everyone's labor. If we weren't paying obscene taxes for Isreal, funding Chinese manufacturing, deflating the dollar 30%, buying disposable $1000 cameras, buying $60,000 Fiberglass cars, and abolish the federal reserve, we could EASILY afford the small price increase of USA manufactured goods. We literally got fleeced every possible way in the past 60 years, put an end to all that shit and you could afford a screw driver made in Detroit, and it would last you a lifetime.
>>541802089>>541802191Ahahahaha touched a nerve didn't we? It's understandable really, as soon as I finish work I take a nice walk and then start on a nutritious homecooked meal, all while you sit in endless traffic perpetually raging on behalf of Mr. Shekelberg.My only advice for you would be to start blaming your oppressor and not the people who simply made better choices than you.
>>541797871>1 pbtidMake a few more Posts and I'll consider answering you....
>>541802414Every WFHite I've met just orders door dash.
>>541797871they will become enclaves for certain lifestyles, like only being around intelligent people, towns with no niggers, towns with no jews, niggertowns, kikesvilles, etc.since everywhere else is a muttified globohomo shithole its the only point in having a small town
>>541802171And thinking of the future, the people in small towns aren't people you want to have kids with or the kind of people you want your kids to learn from. Inevitably, your kids will have to move for a job, and it's far harder to support them from Bumfuck nowhere than even living in a modest regional city with some jobs.
>>541801313Small towns exist to do activities low on the value chain and feed into cities where value is added. They have an expiration date. Villages were abandoned all the time historically when they became economically unviable. Many of these places are only kept in their zombie half lives by extensive systems of welfare and because relocating the boomers is more expensive than letting them rot away in NE Louisiana, and gradually close hospitals and post offices as they kick the bucket.
It takes 5-7 years minimum to plan to build a factory. A company needs to go to a bank to finance it and they need a real business plan, not hopes and dreams. First the building needs to be planned in TEKLA or Autocad. Engineers need to be paid before any of this even happens. HVAC and Electrical Engineers need to be consulted. They need to show the bank market research, raw materials sourcing quotes, off take agreements that show suppliers are willing to sign contracts to buy a certain number of products from the moment the factory lights turn on. They need a down payment of like 20-40% or a bunch of equity. They need to run it by the local, state, and federal government obtaining the necessary permits along each step of the way. They need to meet OSHA and environmental requirements which show they aren't going to pollute the towns only source of drinking water.Then they start building. They need to hire a bunch of specialized comercial building contractors. They need to hire more HVAC people to actually build it. Industrial electricians. Contract out the structural steel. Steel Construction contractors to build it. None of this shit exists in an isolated small town. So they're gonna pay extra to get it done. Then once it's built they need to procure Machinery, tooling, measuring and quality control equipment, materials, etc. Most of this stuff especially metrology equipment and machinery is imported. The machinery requires their own specialized people from the machine tool company if it's specialized to support it and help set it up. Sometimes these people come from overseas because that's where the shit is made (visa issues bc of the admin).Then they need to hire Engineers and skilled trades people who don't exist in any sizeable quantity in small towns. Those people all retired 30+ yrs ago whenever the last factory closed. So they'd need to convince a ton of people to move to a town with one employer and accept no changing jobs for more pay.
>>541798034The car is pro small town and anti city you fucking retard.
>>541800501>You're a loser for having a job and living where near your family lives, real WINNERS move away from their family or whatever>Also they're losers because they have kids and get free shit from the governmentThis is just a new pasta, right?
>>541799484Most of our villages were built to flee pirates and schizo regimes, the goal was protection rather than max productivity, if the land could offer protection, some water and arable land it was a perfectly reasonable place to settle.So what makes sense now doesn't mean it will make sense under a totally different social, political and economic landscape.
Most of these small towns only exist because they once had a local industry boom. If you look at Pennsylvania for example, it’s filled with towns that were outcrops of the coal mining industry, the railroad industry, the steel industry, etc. Unless those industries come back or they’re replaced with other locally sourced industries (not happening) the towns will just unwind and empty out. One day the only small towns in America will be towns that rely entirely on agriculture and natural resource harvesting, just like how it’s always been forever.
>>541803008Urbus Delenda Est
>>541802790The townies trans heart love revitalization but would never, ever do anything that involves actual economic activity or not badly trying to scam newcomers into buying a lemon.
>>541799896>If it's over an hour drive from a city of 200k or more than it's not a functioning part of the modern economy.These areas could grow and have economies, but USA refuses to plan for future growth. Only mitigating decay, and rent-seeking behavior.
>>541802666The future is every city burning to the ground you nigger faggot.
>>541803170How? I think we need to knock off the sentimentality and just treat these places like oil fields- minimally manned for industrial activity that people endure tours of duty in but live elsewhere.
>>541802276Thankfully, things seem to slowly be moving towards better public transit. It's mostly lead-brained boomers and people that weigh 300 lbs that are against it.(Also, buses suck because they are just really big cars. Literally just the worst aspects of cars and trains combined)>>541802518>I've metThat's because you live in the ZOGburbs. Way to further prove his point.>>541802790What's with boomers being so comically greedy, that if they were just sightly less greedy, they could have way more money (and thus arguably actually be more greedy)? The boomer could have invested the $50k or so from selling and had way more than $2 million by now.
>>541801757>>541802398Correct. It's too expensive if you're trying to use the company to also pay a bunch of 7 figure salaries for people who mainly manage shareholder meetings. Drop that and we can figure out the rest. I don't believe in America, but I do believe in Americans.
>>541797871Remote work sets you free.Don't listen to the kike Elon.He wants you poor.
>>541803143Most of rural America's economy is quasi UBI from bullshit state administration jobs, Medicare, SS, and SSDI. Lucrative extraction like the Permian Basin is the exception. Most of these places should just be left to die, and gradually closed.
>>541800211>Small towns and cities are dying because they suck to be in, largely due to car infrastructure>That's not true, my specific small town is fine!"Per capita"
>>541803097Lol okay.How does your hypothesis explain small towns declining as car culture became more and more prominent? Surely they should be stronger than ever?
>>541797871no. historically, nearly everyone lived in or around a major city. the "miracle" of cars made smaller towns better off and gave rise to the suburbs. this itself is only because boomers had such an extraordinary impact on everything due to their population surge and the technologies that came about. they even had to build more schools for this generation alone.
>>541802398Some of that is made in America, but the transport cost for bulk commodities suck because the government allows the railroads to price gauge and unless there is a deep water port or river barge to and from the factory and suppliers you're fucked. If something is made in America but on the otherside of the country and takes weeks to quote and is 5 times the price even allied countries like Japan or Korea or Germany how is that helpful? If theoretically they make inputs in the US but nowhere near metro areas with advanced factories how is that exactly the CEOs fault and nowhere near the demand required does that even make sense? In China, Japan, or Korea everything is urbanized and metro areas specialize in building everything from beginning to end, not small towns. The model of distributed small town manufacturing is incapable physically of delivering everything just in time and at scale. It limits the speed of developing engineered products because instead of going down the street to get dies you wait like weeks to a month after waiting a couple weeks for a complete quote which is subject to price changing randomly with carbide and steel prices increasing every month. The F35 has parts from 48 states and basically every representatives legislative district precisely to protect American jobs in dying small towns. It's expensive as fuck because it's designed to spread the wealth around. Currency losing it's value helps domestic manufacturing assuming all your inputs are domestic. It makes foreign imports more expensive. It cost more dollars to exchange for Euros which you use to pay for items from Europe.
>>541803568The two are not mutually exclusive you fucking retard. Explain how to get around a small town and rural area without a train. Trains run in a straight line and stop every 30 miles. Walk or ride your bike 10 miles on a single lane country road with no sidewalks. Idiot zoomer
>>541803568Because it's irrelevant. Rural areas emptied out because of increased agricultural automation. People don't like agricultural labor; historically you had to enslave people at swordpoint to work the fields. Today, rural Thais, Viets, and Pinays when given the option would rather work in a sweatshop than work the rice paddies. Because farmers are Cheap People that are awful to work for.
>>541798126The only way the residents are directly going to build the city is through large investment, which does not happen. Community is nice but doesn't restore a dilapidated city that started dying in the 70s. It takes a massive influx of cash and jobs to do that.
>>541797871If you decide to have kids in a small town, don't act surprised when they struggle in life. Certainly don't be hard on them for that, either
>>541803024Also building a factory takes longer than this admin has left in office. You need to convince a bank to bet this theoretical factory in a small town cut off from the rest of the world and supplies chains is going to still somehow make money when the tariffs return to a more normal baseline. The banks aren't going to approve a loan for project that rely on tariffs as projection if they don't have a real guarantee that the admin isn't just going to change their mind next month. And what happens to the feasiability studies when, like I said much of the machinery to build the factory is sourced overseas or uses overseas parts?
>>541797871They’re all either empty or spic/refugee outposts. They may have a future as feudal company towns but that’s at least 10 years away.
>>541798034But that has nothing to do with car culture.. sidewalk is thin because of low IQ... no other reason. You can easily have wider sidewalks at the expense of marginally smaller properties. What you lose in real estate area you gain in real land value.
>>541800211Grew up in a similar (former) small town (now it's technically a city) that used to regularly make national shortlists of some of the best places to live with your family in the entire country.Then they tossed in a Cosco right off the freeway and basically fucked the town to death for good. Imagine having to deal with a thousand chink drivers while you're trying to use the one major road that goes the high school and the most popular in-town shopping plaza. It's a fucking nightmare. Whether it's the chamber of commerce, the city council, or whatever, whoever is responsible for ruining the one of the few places in America that were still idyllic in the current hellscape of rotting Americana deserves to fucking hang. The tax revenue from a Cosco isn't enough to ruin a pleasant historical town. I don't even think we had a lot of Jews, and almost no blacks. Nothing good ever lasts.
>>541803916Low IQ is wasting time, money and materials expanding a sidewalk no one uses in a town whose council is likely 80+ and holds their meetings in the only restaurant for 30 miles.
>>541799271Capital is not distributed. It doesn't fall from the sky like rain.
>>541803980I don't think small towns unless you have a township system even exist as a legal entity. It's either countyland or incorporate into a city.Chambers of commerce are not government entities. It's an association of local businesses that at most donate to political candidates, talk to politicians, and run fund campaigns/ads on the local news and paper. It's the city council/county commissioners (and people below them) and state (environmental shit) that approves construction for big buildings.
>>541803872>>541803024it would be fascinating to hear how this compares to the process back when industrialization was taking off in the US
>>541797871Idk. Maybe big tech firms building surveillance centers on all the cheap real estate and then importing a million jeets and mongrels to work there.
>>541797871Hopefully not. Our town went from a population of almost 4000 back when coal mining was at its height here in the 1980s, to currently being around 180 this year. I hope it stays this way.
>>541797871Unironically reindustrialization.The dollar is dead, the globohomo logistics system is failing. Reindustrialization is inevitable and factories will likely be placed in low cost of living areas to keep labor price down.t. actually in the know on this specific subject
>>541804171>throw down some bricks and trick some assholes into going in there and working>if they complain about the conditions call the cops down here and they’ll kill em for ya
>>541802414>Not pics of a home office.>>541803366>I'm a broke virgin who lives with mommy because of people born in the 1940s.Post some pics of your home office, sport.
>>541803688The same way small towns worked before cars: you walk. Businesses were placed close enough that it was more viable than driving is now. Just because your very simple brain sees miles and miles of empty parking lots and thinks "no better use for this land", doesn't mean things have to be that way.Next you are going to tell me that spending 30 minutes driving is somehow an improvement over 5 minutes of walking.
>>541804229>knows something about and thinks "reindustrialization" can happenlol k
>>541803435>people who mainly manage shareholder meetingsHow many shareholder meetings have you been to? What sort of things do they do there?
>>541797871Ban social media.>>541798034Also this, car fags are a blight on humanity. You are fat, lazy and stupid.
>>541798034Have you ever been to one of these small towns? They are like 2x4 blocks wide in the middle of farming communities, where the nearest neighbor is over a mile away. They need cars just to get to town. They usually consist of a post office, a bar, some kind of entertainment, like bowling, car repair, and a few shops. Small towns will make a return as soon as we prioritize labor over assets. That means paying wages that people can live on and eradicating inflation. But that will never happen. Cities are too useful to accumulate power and wealth into a few hands, and self-reliance is a danger to elites.>Why would anyone want to spend time there?It isn't about what to do. It is more about who you do it with. My small hometown had Sunday lunches at church. It was about community.
>>541804171Permitting has been around since the 1830s in Philly. Bigger cities had it for longer. It became more universal between 1880s and 1920s. By the 1940s or 50s basically everything had permits. So basically everywhere in the US that had advanced manufacturing has had build permits for over 150 years. To get something approved in some cases you'd just bribe people. It was mostly about fire abatement and urban planning for infrastructure (rail, water, power, etc). But it took time because things moved on pen and paper. Environmental shit didn't matter until the 70s. Back then the world moved a lot slower and machinery was made in England and New England then the midwest near Cleveland and few other places. Things took a lot longer to transport across the ocean and country. It took longer to exchange payment and negotiate, inspect and procure machinery. Banks were more hesitant to give out long term loans that were big. Frequent bank collapses were a part of American life until the aftermath of the Great Depression. On the plus side factories were typically located close to the raw materials and there was a lot more manual labor. So this kind of mitigated some factors.Small towns often specialized in goods with simpler input chains like clothing, cigerettes, leather goods, furniture, etc.
>>541804749You can give away houses for almost nothing in rural shitholes like Japan or Italy, and people won't take it. They will move to Rome or Tokyo. This is a pipe dream.And having to recruit people to manage multimillion dollar infrastructure from drug added townies is not worth the risk.
UBI but for people that live in rural areas with under a certain population.
>>541804905We already have that. It's called SSDI disability and bullshit state bureaucrat jobs.
>>541804749>It was about community.Hey gramps we have the internet for that now. You're going to need something else besides "you can talk to people" to reel in newcomers.
>>541804955>Hey gramps we have the internet for that now.And are you happy?
>>541804955Rural areas are filled with antisocial homebodies in my experience.
Those towns in bumfuck nowhere exist at all because some economic incentive that went away. And it all started with Steel/Auto industry outsourcing in particular, thats why all those generic abandoned town shots have architecture from 50s-70s and suddenly stop. I live near Allentown, PA and its only marginally better than Pittsburgh or detroit simply because of its proximity to NYC/Philadelphia.You'd have to go full isolationist on a federal level to even begin attempting 'cultural' issues which would be downstream to the economic situation to begin with
>>541797871Small towns are getting a bit of a boost right now because young people can't afford to buy in the suburbs or in dense urban places, so they spread to smaller places. Unfortunately at the same time upper middle class boomers are moving into these rural areas and inflating prices. My in laws are such people >ohhh it's too busy where we live let's buy this nice family home in the country over asking price.
>>541797871Yes. How? All the investments that used to go towards importing third world savages can go towards bolstering Americans, instead. Its painfully simple.Instead of moving the third world from third world shit holes into these places, incentivise Americans to move there. Give Americans education opportunities. Subsidise Americans. Gove Americans the jobs. Train Americans. Not third worlders.
>>541805010I'm not happy because we have mass illegal and legal immigration. Living in a small town doesn't change that.
>>541798233Nobody voted for the McKinsey Consulting firm to give Clinton the blueprint on how to delete American jobs and offshore American jobs to China.You fucking dumb mongralized niggerfaggot.
>>541798932I'm not so certain about this. The electrification of personal mobility will offset the decrease of dino juice. If we really wanted, we could build concentrated solar using the land area of Florida across the world's deserts to power all of humanity (both electricity as well as synthetic liquid fuels, not even factoring any efficiency gains through continued electrification). The reason this hasn't happened yet is it isn't economically feasible. As dino juice gets expensive, other alternatives fill the void.
>>541805260>Train Americans. Not third worlders.Rural young people don't want to be trained. If they want to be productive, they fuck off. Dying small towns are the way they are because that is the revealed preference of their residents.To a certain extent, it's understandable. It's better to collect welfare than put up thousands of dollars for trade school and buying your own tools to get $10/hr as a contractor for some cheap boomer asshole.
>>541805063Right. Small towns stopped being a Norman Rockwell painting after the 90s. It's just filled with the worst type of deadbeats and losers now.
>>541797871A guy with a secondary business that manufactures waldos or thingamajigs for a larger company.
>>541805485Yes they do. Have you asked them? You dumb nigger. Go away. Your opinions are retarded. You are the problem. Why don't you move out of my country and see if you could make it among your precious, beloved third world shit-holers? Revoke your American citizenship ( if you even have it ). You bring only trash, with your trash opinions.
>>541805260I’m about to move to a small town to start a business and only hire local, White men. I’ll make less money, but my kids and grandkids will hopefully have a better life in a White community, which I plan to invest in and improve.
>>541797871We are in the age of social media, mass internet adoption (and surveillance), and women looking for attention more so than they ever did before. There is no way small towns come back. People want to live in more populated areas. I wonder how practical it even is to have ever lived in a small town anyways. Unless you really know how to live such a life I can't imagine its all that easy to live like that.
>>541805746>Yes they do. Have you asked them?Have you asked them? Because the modern average small towner is not the same as the smaller towner from the last century that didn't mind working a ketchup factory for their entire life
>>541805443China is overpowered for reason that aren't just labor cost. They've planned their economy exceptionally well and have learned from Japan, Korea, and the failed Warsaw Pact. Wishing small towns industry back into existence is literally impossible for reasons. Everything is vertically integrated with suppliers for each step of the process located in the same city or province. And extensive infrastructure. This just doesn't exist in America and for sure never will in small townsbelow:>>541802285Just for scale, China has a city called Jinjiang, with 2 million people, that is vertically integrated and planned to just make shoes.They have a city, Foshan, where all they make is furniture. It has 9.5 million people. It's bigger than a lot of US states in population.It's literally impossible to compete with this level of vertical integration and infrastructure, efficiency, and conglomeration effect even if wages were much more equal.Chinese wages on a global scale aren't even that cheap. They make like $4-5.50/hr. That's like more than triple India's. Even if Chinese wages were like 14-18/hr their urban infrastructure, planning, and scale is just insane.
>>541805746Yes. I got memed into living in one. Their stated preferences do not match what they actually do.
>>541805517Guess what else happened during the 1990s?The Bush and then the Clinton administrations linked up with the McKinsey Consulting Group and came up with the blue print in how to offshore American prosperity, to China.But no one ever wants to implicate the McKinsey Consulting Group.Now, why is that?
>>541798249None of these pro-data center people have addressed the fact that once construction is done they are maintained by skeleton crews and offer very little in the realm of long term employment opportunity.Also, I have two data centers near me and my taxes haven't gone down a bit. They've gone UP, actually. Along with my electric bill.
>>541803532Cut cities off from country and we'll see who starves first you faggot.
>>541806002>Guess what else happened during the 1990s?You know what else happened in the 90s? a massive economic migration to the cities and their suburbs. The Whites that built and maintained those small towns are gone and followed the money leaving only the worst types of Whites to inhabit them.
>>541797871Small town whites are as spiritually cucked as urban blacks. I really wish it wasn’t the case, but they are mostly just braindead consoomers who are liberals from 15 years ago living in areas that are not self sustaining in any way. They are even more dependent on just in time supply chains than cities, and at best they will support the fox news retard version of conservatism.The religious ones are a lot more sincere about their Christian beliefs than the average American, and that’s not nothing, but they aren’t the latent revolutionary force online right wingers wish they were.>t mostly lifelong small town resider outside of half a decade in a libbed up college town>>541800501You’re a lot more negative than me, but mostly right. There is a certain crab bucket mentality in small town white blue collar men, specifically, to conform to being a barely literate guy whose only interests are football and cars. Had a buddy I grew up with that was very intellectual, reading 1000+ page books for fun til he was about 16 til his dad and brothers shamed him out of it. He runs a dozer business now which pays great and is good work, but there’s no good reason why the two have to be mutually exclusive other than this fucked up mentality that in order to work for a living you have to embody the liberal stereotype of the fat hick retard
>>541797871Small towns have been booming since 2020. Every small town that still has any potential at all is getting gentrified and filled with people moving there and working remotely.
>>541806005Anon, are you autistic? It's obvious sarcasm. It's not actually serious.The main benefit data centers do give is property tax. They don't provide jobs beyond the immediate construction phase, which is done by out of town contractors from wherever the nearest city is those type of specialized commercial building contractors do not exist in small towns. When they are done there might be a handful of employees to maintain the place and work the servers. That's it. A bunch of land, power infrastructure, hvac, water for cooling, etc just for commercial property tax and handful of jobs.
>>541806313I know anon was being sarcastic, I meant that towards Trump and all these other pro data center republicans.
>>541800507You are a literal nigger faggot that lives in a commieblock. Everything is fucking car dependent you stupid bitch. Kill yourself yankoid.
>>541805756You will get robbed and killed by the local tweaker gang. Rip.
>>541804579Ok jew.Ships aren't coming in much longer
>>541806005>DUH DATA CENTERS BADDude wtf happened to the right......
>>541805756Good. It must begin somewhere. It will not be easy. You are a modern day pioneer.Everyone should look up to you, and support you in any way they are able.Especially the demoralized, American hating scum, itt. Like this shit sucker>>541805872and this shit sucking piece of trashhuman>>541806001Unlike them, YOU are a pioneer.Do any of you shit suckers think it was an easy life, for the original west bound pioneers of old?No. It was a life of agony. But they did it anyway. Today's pioneers, like the man taking a chance on doing what is right, is a better man, and a better human being, than all of you despicable shit suckers, itt who are disparaging Americans.Blaming them, for being victims of globalization attacks, by their own government, and the McKinsey Consulting Group.
>>541800501>have kids by the time they're in the mid-20sHaha what kind of FUCKING LOSER has kids when they're youthful and healthy LMAO
>>541806513It's hilarious how tweakers are allowed to just strip everything of value in small towns the moment people are out of town or the building closes. Everybody knows who they are. Everybody knows everybody. It's like real life trailer park boys on meth and blue fent pills. Maybe it's just they can't prove it in a court of law. I dunno.I swear they allow them to do it out of respect for their grandparents or whatever who probably were decent folk.
>>541806542>Unlike them, YOU are a pioneer.The real White pioneers are in the cities networking, gaining influence, power, & wealth. You're not going to save a America by being a small town plumber
>>541806175I’m on your side in theory, but this makes no sense. You can’t live off of field corn and basedbeans, and you can’t live off of the tomatoes you grow in your porch. The kinds of food that used to grow abundantly in the wild no longer exists. Deer would be hunted to extinction within a year, and cattle would be consumed faster than they could be replaced if there were an actual rural / urban hard break.I live in a rural area, and it’s impossible to not notice that it’s an almost unnatural luxury to be able to do so nowadays because it depends entirely on Walmart, Amazon and dollar general trucking shit all the way out to the boonies.I tell you this to be constructive. Libs know this rings hollow and you sound like a dipshit when you talk like that. >inb4 I was an army ranger or some shit and know how to forage. Okay maybe YOU personally could do it, the average country boy couldn’t.
>>541798126>someone with a vision that can inspire the localsNo, because the reality is that all of those dead small towns where nothing is happening are like that because everyone who lives there is elderly and/or poor.It's NOT just a matter of getting those people to go outside and do things and muh community. The kind of active thriving small town environment you want is only possible when the local population has a relatively high disposable income and is still young enough to want to go out and spend it. When you have a high concentration of relatively young people with lots of disposable income, that makes it possible for the area to be revitalized, gentrified, new businesses moving in and staying in business, etc. This also means that the price of housing and everything else in that area will rapidly increase. If you try to make a "nice" small town and also keep it affordable, it will fail. There won't be enough money in the local economy for all of those nice small businesses to stay in operation, there won't be a tax base that can support keeping it clean and safe and with nice public amenities, there will be no economic incentive to fix up older housing or commercial spaces, and it will just remain a dead small town with nothing happening.
>>541806702I would tell you to go suck gook dick, but that wouldn't be an insult for you, as you probably do it anyway, for sport and leisure.
>>541806578More like early 20s or late teens. But yeah. I know people that brag about defrauding the welfare system and how I should do it too. They work construction contracting so can get paid cash. They also stole shit from us on a meth binge at our entire families properties, including extended family, but now supposedly they're clean so it's okay.
>>541806821Fuck and go be White trash for the rest of your life then. I'm sure that's going to work out great.
>>541806513Beyond that, you're going to be dealing with young people with the punctuality of blacks, whose highest aspiration is scoring some weed or a new tattoo. You could pay them $250k and their behavior would not change.
>>541806892I was calling you a retard.
>>541806672They might just let them get away with it because that’s most of the young people left in town. Tweakers are also impossible to reason with and doubly so if you’re a town with an elderly population and 4 obese cops.
>>541806542>>541805872>>541806513I’ve already visited the town I’m moving to with my wife. The people were very nice and quite smart. They were actually far better at conceptualizing abstract ideas than the people in the urban hellhole I currently live. And the business im opening should employ about 40-50 White men in around 3-5 years, once it’s up and running smoothly. my business model allows most of them to make 80k/yr(in today’s dollar) and this is in a town where a 3bdrm house costs about 275-300k, on average. We’ll see what happens, but it’s a nice town with nice people.
>>541806702Americans follow booms. It’s why no one ever lays down roots unless they’ve basically just given up on life. Reactionary people run from their problems, ambitious people chase money, there’s really no way to just be a normal person and live a normal life in the traditional (pre industrial) sense without accepting your place as a societal loser.
>>541797871They already are, small towns are cheap, lots of boomers move there with their money, make restaurants and shops I see it quite a bit.
>>541806702>>541806983>>541807216TRVKE. People don't wanna hear that. Anybody with any ambition at all went to university, trade school, or joined the union trades. Or went into the military and leveraged that into university or trades. But really, even they're gonna struggle to break into that network of skilled tradesmen or professionals if they didn't grow up in a big metro area.Smalls towns are mostly FUBAR. Any towns nearby outdoor amenities are becoming open air hospices for Californians. Which further causes the town to die because all the young people can't afford to stay.
>>541797871I know I'm acting like a parrot here but unironically less cars. specifically parking.I'm a bong living in a small town in CA that's filled with endless parking and massive roads. Absolutely nobody is going to drive from Santa Barbara or SLO to come to our tiny town, but they keep insisting on adding more parking. We have a strip mall and a downtown, both are ugly as sin, if the restaurants paid me to go downtown I wouldn't bother. The view from my garden is infinity nicer than a sea of shitty suv's and tarmac. They also smell and sound like shit.Small towns need to focus on making locals walk down and spend time in their downtowns, not praying that for some reason city kids will all get the itch to drive 50 miles to get a mid burrito. Also our town needs to reduce the lanes from 5 to 3, and make 2 lanes bike/ebike lanes. None of the kids I know drive or have intention to get a car, they all ride bikes and ebikes/scooters etc. Less noise, less smell, easy way for locals to actually get to the businesses.To be fair a huge way to make this work is more dense urban development. But if anyone wants to build apartments they HAVE to provide section 8 housing, meaning there will never ever ever be a development that gets through local approval.We should be allowed to make 1200sqft 2 or 3 bed starter home apartments for all the 140iq space engineers that work here (near Vandenberg Space Base), but doing so would bring in hordes of 80iq retards.
>>541803769>>541806729it takes no money to source some scrap lumber, knock together some stalls and tables and schedule a time for people to meet, talk, sell a thing or two (like a fucking homemade cookie and lemonade) and maybe have someone play an instrument. we're not talking hip cool bars and trendy clothing stores and a venue for A list bands. community is just neighbors getting together to chat, laying a foundation of trust and then next thing you know youre helping your neighbor mow his lawn, shovel snow, move a heavy piece of furniture or babysitting. it's a slow process but worth it.
>>541807167>I can talk to smart people in this townYou can do that online now gramps>Mr. Goldberg said that he might hire some White men soon too!The cope is off the charts
>>541806983>White trashNo such thing. What scummy little shit suckers call " White trash ", those who know the deal, see for what they are.Demoralized victims of globalization.White men and women who have has their destinies usurped frim them.By powerful conglomerates of very monied forces, working against them, in tandem, and from every angle, for decades.Those times are over, now.Now that more and more of us Americans have noticed what was done to us, a sleeping giant has been aroused from this slumber.And worms like you should get ready to feel our coming wrath.But unlike the plebian wrath you rabble are used to, our wrath isn't limited to crushing you bugs.Our wrath comes with our reassembly. Our reunification.Our rebuilding.When we come back together, stronger than ever before, and with these new lessons learned about you, the enemy, there is no stopping us, ever again.All you shit sucking scums done goofed.
>>541807401Ruraloids want to stay home and doomscroll slop on Facebook. That's why they live in the sticks. Your effort and time to try to get people to show up usually not reciprocated. Especially for some FNG transplant.
>>541797871The Great Re-Whitening.
>>541804585You know what, show me your hand (fingerprints visible) with timestamp and I'll think about answering.
>>541807369Stfu you dumb nigger.
>>541806496Mad 'cuz bad
>>541807410Id like my children to grow up around smart people, not be online. And I’m not a jew. My business does well already, but I actually want to make less money, as it’s the root of all evil, and build something substantial, not just economic. I see it as planting seeds for a tree that i won’t ever stand under the shade of, but my kids (and hopefully grandkids) will.
>>541797871Wish I could buy them up and renovate them
>>541807585>Its happening.And you can see all the scared bugs trembling about it itt rn.
>>541797871The only ones that will survive are the ones that have been usurped and gentrified by rich Jews. It's over. The boomers sold it all off.
>>541806702>You're not going to save a America by being a small town plumberI'll grant your main point, money and power are in the cities, but I'm not totally sure about this part. It's really a matter of what you think is coming down the pipe. If America's going to stay cohesive, yes, you want access to the federal levers. If America's going to fall apart, whoever has the ability to sustain themselves with little/no central grid support is going to inherit the country.
>>541807278Running a business isn't a hobby. It requires managing cashflow, inventory, keeping employees, following regulations. I've seen a boonie convenience store/hotel combo stop selling gas because they don't have the capital or knowhow to navigate getting Ecology regs. They have to replace the gas tank because the tank leaks into the lakes around it. They got busted.
>>541807216Hitler also realized this when he reflected on why he was losing the war. The bold, ambitious, and daring Germans he needed an thought he had were actually in America and had uprooted themselves to colonize states like Texas a hundred years ago.Obviously Germany still had elite human capital and it's why he almost won the war but America had Germany's best Germans and it's why they had the best supply lines and why they invented the nuke.
>>541807787Yeah, rural shitholes at end of supply chains that start from urban areas are not going to inherit the earth. Especially if the gibs get cut off.
>>541807683Got a bullseye I see :)
>>541797871So the big secret is that the world population isn't growing. It has been steadily shrinking since the 1970s while the remaining survivors are coalescing in major cities. The world population isn't 8billion people. It's probably closer to three, maybe even as little as two billion. But y'all ain't ready for that conversation.
>>541797871 the return of Feudalism. Otherwise I don't see how hinterlands are supposed to compete with cities after the rise of urbanization. A modern government has limited resources and will always develop their most profitable regions. A feudal lord would logically develop their own holdings.
>>541807535This empty bluster is painful to read. Your latent small town revolutionaries went to the same public schools, and consoomed the same rap music as everyone else. This vision of them being based is woefully misguided. They are normies, completely interchangeable with any normies anywhere except maybe they’re about 10% more likely to go to church or know how to change their own oil.I sincerely wish what you are saying was true, but it’s not, and laboring under the delusion that it is is not helping anyone except your enemies.
>>541798034>moments before this post
>>541807686They are going to be online because there's fuck all to do. The hick "diner goths" are some of the most highly online people.
>>541797871Boomers waiting for someone to rent it for $2500 a month
>>541807686>Id like my children to grow up around smart people, not be online.Move to a Amish community then if that's really something you care about otherwise your larping.
>>541807866What kind of rural shithole though, hm?>UM SMALL TOWNS AREN'T LIKE THATYeah, nobody's discussing what they are, we're talking about what they could be. Which is a lot of the dumb posting in this thread;>What if we did this with small towns?>BUT NOBODY HAS DONE THAT WITH THEM RETARD?!?!?!?!?!
>>541807932Shit's already happening. Why else do you think education in rural towns in purposely underfunded and levies fail? It's because if people had options people would no longer work at the County seat Walmart, dollar general, the mines or lumber mills (if your community is lucky to still have those).
>>541807866supply chains do not start in urban areas, anon.
>>541797871Just wait until they are absorbed by the city
>>541808101What fucking mines?
>>541807866>he thinks it’ll be safe in a city when gibs are cut offShit’ll be like the Jamaican slave revolt but with worse music.
>>541807535>WHITE PEOPLE ARE RISING WE HAVE A DESITNY>Oh how am I helping Whites? well i'm moving to a trailer park and i'm going to be a handy man for a livingYou can't have both. You can either help Whites or you can retreat and do nothing.
>>541807866This post is fucking hilarious.
>>541808151The staples of rural areas are at the end of a supply chain that starts in ports as containers are unloaded, then trucked or moved by rail to distribution centers on the outskirts of cities, and eventually trucked out to Walmarts and Dollar Generals.
>>541807954You are my enemy.Post address.(you won't) You little nigger.
>>541807787>If America's going to fall apart, whoever has the ability to sustain themselves with little/no central grid support is going to inherit the country.This isn't going to happen and if it does it won't happen for another 100+ years. Will conditions get worse over the years? Yes but it's foolish to think America is about to fall within the next 20 years.
>>541800501This anon understands. In your 20s it's tolerable but once you get established in your career, have a family, or anything that allows you to truly compare apples to oranges, you realize that these places fucking suck.
>>541799087This has been tried for decades and it ends up in disaster every time.You'd think management is retarded for falling for it every time but they just don't give a single fuck as long as they can keep the cost down.
>>541808151What do farmers actually grow where you live, anon? Where I grew up, ranching cattle and pigs (useful) happened a little bit but most people working in agriculture grew inedible field corn and onions beans, ie inedible shit that needs to be processed to be turned into anything more useful than cattle/pig feed. Sometimes ranchers baled hay on the side. That’s great and all, but in an actual shtf situation a good number of rural/small town people are definitely gonna starve.
>>541807401How much money do you see a lemonade stand bringing into the city? How many median wage jobs does it provide? Community lunches at church and grandma selling cookies in the past office parking lot does nothing to rebuild a dying city that's full of delayed buildings, bad roads, and little to no employment other than working at the gas station or dollar general.
>>541808499Diesel, parts, etc that allows industrial agriculture terminate in the rural areas, not start.
>>541808151They don't and they do. It depends. The raw materials come from rural areas or rural areas overseas (some minerals can only be found like cobalt in a handful of places in the world). Lumber comes from rural areas either domestically or overseas (only if it's something like Rosewood, Mahogany, Ebony wood).They get transformed into processed goods depending on how complex they are to manufacture. Simpler goods can be made in smaller communities. Most can't or at least not at scale to supply entire countries. So stuff like Channellocks are made in a relatively small town in PA (pretty cool). Paper is often made in smaller communities. Other stuff like Machine Tools have to be made in big cities because of the complex engineering and inputs required. I think the point he's trying to make here is that most of the worlds basic things you find at Walmart at scale were made in a factory in some Asian city somewhere. Machinery and complex goods are made in cities. Assembly plants or contract manufacturing for bigger companies are often in medium sized cities with goods that come from cities across the world and country. Anyway most things in the modern economy at scale aren't made in small towns even simpler stuff like shoes. Jinjiang has 2 million people in China and it's the worlds vertically integrated and planned shoe city. Boeing makes planes in Seattle and Charleston SC from parts all over the US and some other countries.The world has largely transitioned away from things like leather shoes being made in a small town because that's where the cattle and leather tanneries are located. Cities are the literal logistics centers, ports, and railhubs that connect this countrywide and worldwide supply chain together.
>>541808202Believe it or not, there are mining communicates around the Mountain West and Alaska. They typically other than places like lumber mills, paper plants, and government work (public works, teaching, etc) are the only decent paying jobs.
>>541808323a supply chain doesn’t start with shipping, retard. and actual staples, not just consoomerism buying, is often sourced locally. and shit made by chinks and sold in Walmart, like toilet paper and electronics, are stored in rural warehouses before they get sent anywhere, rural or urban.
>>541808013>>541808057I visited the small town I’m moving to two months ago and there were kids playing outside, practicing for upcoming school sports, etc. the public library was full of kids and teenagers, and older teens were working at simple retail and service summer jobs. it’s not as bleak as this Mongolian bread making site would have you think. The city, however, is fucking terrible.
>>541800501This guy is right. Small towns suck. We don't even have roads or electricity. Please stop moving here.
>>541808499I live in a shithole city. But the small town I’m moving to has robust a farmers market every week, I’ve sourced a local ranch to buy 1/4 cow for a reasonable price, realestate is obviously cheap, so I plan to have a 1/4 acre of garden/orchard. I’m not moving as a poor, my main point in this thread was that I want to bring my business and good paying jobs to a repressed area, so I can build a better community for my kids and grandkids.
>>541809063Good on you if it’s true. Don’t tell anyone online about it and enjoy it while it lasts. Sounds like how my home town was growing up, before the last of the factories closed down and the town suspiciously became like 20% black right around the time any organic economic incentive to relocate here evaporated.
>>541808924Anywhere in the world needs machine tools and metrology equipment to make the tooling and other stuff that goes into making everything. They need Catapillers to pave the roads to extract the timber. They need engines. They need fuel which is refined in the outskirts of metro areas.>>541809104They do have roads and electricity because the government put them there. The government passed the Rural Electrification act. A lot of those old lines are like 70-90 years old. They cause fires. Without an outside tax base none of that shit would exist.
>>541809063The cities have opportunities and small towns do not. It's great that you want to make sure your kid's little league team is filled with kids with good values but that's not going to do anything for him in life
>>541809297Yes. You're right. I wish everyone would stop moving here.
>>541809238Nice. Cattleman are cool. They're good people and have a real economic reason to be there. They have cattleman associations. They show up to county fairs and stuff. They support their communities.Fuck the big food distributors who pump out slop to the people and are poisoning people across America.
>>541808772Maybe I’m just being pedantic, but the claim that supply chains start in urban areas is objectively wrong.
>>541808924>and actual staples is often sourced locally.sourced locally, managed by a small white family, and ran by cheap non-white labor. Any small town that's supplying big chains "locally" is often majority non-white and hallowed out.
>>541797871Stop talking about small towns. Normie dipshit city artist types will find out about them then move there to open some hipster art store then overnight its flooded with faggots, niggers, and shitskins and all of a sudden everyone is voting for communists. Just look at places like Colorado, Texas, Arizona, New mexico.
>>541809522Depends on the towns. Some have no non-White people other than a handful of Natives who left the Res or maybe a single Mexican restaurant on Main Street.
>>541809459woah based cattleman with their cheap non-white labor!?!?!? wow that's so cool and BASED.
>>541809315>>541809522Have you not read anything I’ve posted? I’m moving to a small town and bringing my (somewhat) successful business with me. My whole point is that I want to bring good paying jobs to White men in a small town. I’ve tasted wealth through capitalism and it’s not to my liking. It’s empty calories like a Twinkie. I want to build something better, not move to a town with the expectation of being a (((parasitical force)))
>>541809515Come on now. Go to Local Farmer's Market(tm) and you'll find a lot of rebranded and marked up shit from Walmart or Aliexpress.
>>541809522And the town I’m moving to is 90% White. It was shocking in a good way to see that every employee, everywhere, was White. It was quite refreshing after being a city full of non-Whites.
>>541809567lol I wish. Anytime anyone tries to open some boutique store or fancy restaurant in my town it always goes out of business within a year. We like the idea of nice things, but never intend to actually spend any money at any of them.
>>541809667You gotta be careful on where you buy it from. The only way to really know for sure is if you know the people/community and also that there's few to no non-Whites (other than like I said maybe like a handful of Natives). So the Southwest is fucked. Texas is fucked. Too close to the border.
get rid of walmartgo back to non gay male realitorshardline christianitybmx parksmanufactoring plantsbarsbut who has the money to do thatall the money is out of small town peoples handsits overand its better for the white mans future to abandon this kosher economy altogetherjesus was righttopple their money if you want a better lifebut white men wont do that as they are too watered down to even carebeing yt ended on 9/11 ...25 years ago
>>541809660It's every small town, anon. These towns are only kept afloat because they have cheap non-white labor off setting the cost of maintaining it.
>>541809792Yeah, there's a reason the ones that last are the money-losing hobbies of the wives of the country doctor, lawyer, or similar good ol boys.
>>541809777What hellscape do you live in? Even in the city, the farmers market is local produce, food vendors, craftsmen, etc. other than the canopies and tables, I don’t think anything is foreign sourced.
Small towns are filled with cults or isolated communities. exodus from big cities will cause a resurgance . but those small towns will be like carpenters village of the damned or shamalyans village. they will all be wierd.I predict this will happen with jeets muslims and chinese in america kinda like the hebrews doing on the east coast where small towns will be filled only with signs in israeli, arabic,mandrin or hindi.the only reason why small town were a thing after the wild west was becuase the us govt basically needed to build a shitton of housing for the american gi coming back from ww2.Go check, most small towns homes all got built around ww2.Its funny in my small city ,might as well be town, they sell these old houses where foundation is cracked and leaking and the houses are constantly being sold then put back on the market becuase our local real estate market is pretty much getting people to hold their bags for them (their shit tier housing), which makes it even more hilarious when they sell the pos house for more than what they bought it for expecting to be rewarded for their shitty decision.
Also people in small towns are dumb as shit.
>>541809698You're moving there for the cheap labor. When you pays these white men 38 bucks an hour then you can talk.
>>541809844I think that depends heavily on the state and community. Most of them probably do have Mexicans. I know of many that don't. Anywhere that has a lot of fruit/produce farms is probably fucked because of that or is close to the border.
>>541809901This was in rural LA. You find more real crafts in le big shitty in my experience, because they can afford the premium and rich urban consumers are more discerning of authenticity.
>>541807401Just go outside and talk to your neighbor when you see them in their yard. Make friends by chitchatting with the random people who you see at the hardware store or diner or bar. That's how normal people who aren't socially retarded autismos create and grow those kinds of relationships. That's why no one builds random scrap wood public space bake sale lemonade stands.
>>541809782>the town i'm moving to is 90% Whitegreat. get back to use when you pay them a living wage of 38 bucks an hour
Bring back corporate/mining towns too.Just have facebook,google and netflix build small towns and issue their own company scrip.
>>541809901That anon is a foreignigger and so he doesn't know what a farmer's market is. He is only here to demoralize Americans.But they've long since, stopped sending their best.
>>541810040He could do that, and the weed added townies would still randomly play hookie.
>>541807399I hate to be the bearer of bad news bongbro but small town California is not on track for any kind of revitalization. Most and yours specifically being isolated are on track to getting beaned while whites who came here generations ago flee to flyover states in pursuit of high trust cultural homogenity. You'll get your lively downtown but full of taco stands and fruit vendors blocking the sidewalks while the buildings and the white businesses that occupy them go to ruin and you won't be any more compelled to go there. I get that you don't like car culture because "we don't do that in Shithole-by-the-Sea" but it's quintessentially American and particularly western and it's not going to change to suit your sensibilities. We have no interest in "urban development" because our great urban centers have always "developed" into leftist enclaves full of non whites and deniers of the reality they create. We want fenced in backyards where our children can play unaccosted by subhuman animals that have no business breathing the same air because we aren't allowed that in public anymore. That isn't going to change so long as we're being demographically replaced.
>>541810124Those still exist just without the company script. They just don't call them that anymore and aren't well known. If the only employer is a single mine or the government, then that is a company town.
>>541809984As opposed to city niggers, who are all gentlemen scholars and future astronauts and engineers...
>>541810080I don't flirt with women because they always hated me but many times while doing errands in public I try to be polite to them and give some basic casual chat. Like lets say the receptionist had her computer freeze. I will start small chit chat. It never works well because women are so horrible to me.
>>541803635Boomers were something special
>>541809826>>541810043True and that's a fair point. I'm a little biased because I do live in Texas and my family does come from a small west Texas town where every town is just majority non-white because they are the only ones willing to work for dirt cheap.
>>541810236That's because they are disgusted by you and want you and all the other shitskins to leave and go back to India where you belong.
>>541810313A lot of these white small business boomers are Cheap People, which is why young people would rather put up with the strict rules of Bucc-ees for a bigger paycheck, not getting ratfucked out of leave, and real benefits.
>>541798034An pedestrian city center would still be empty without any form of industry or a reason to be there. Some towns will just die because there's nothing to gain there anymore like a mine running out of ore.In other places it'd be as simple as bringing back manufacturing
>>541810122You’ve literally not read what I’ve posted. my business plan, as I move from city to small town, allots for an average salary of 80k/yr, in an area where the avg 3bdrm house is 275-300k. I’m hoping they can all afford homes within a decade. You’re way too jaded to be having this conversation, anon. not everyone is a selfish jew in this world. As soon as you stop worshiping money, the god of jews, you’ll realize this.
>>541808084You can't just simply redevelop small towns into this utopian ideal like your picrel. All of your brainstorming is useless until it addresses the core issues preventing it.
>>541810539>You can't just simply redevelop small towns into this utopian ideal like your picrel.Says you. The core issue is lack of will, which can and will be corrected.
>>541798233YES !!!They voted for this
>>541797871Build companies around it. Not many. A tourist attraction or two. Have an active mayor who supports local traditions. Establish a good environment for raising kids.
>>541810539He's the kind of retard that gets blocked by boomers that hate any actual economic activity, or gets taken for a ride by unscrupulous local contractors.
>>541797871Decentralized industry. That's it, people go where jobs are.
>>541810233The bell curve in small towns favors the bottom half. big cities favor the upper half of the bell curve. all the smart fags go to the big city to swirl in bohemian intellectual circles and make money.Small towns regularly get angry at smart fags and want them to leave. They worry about brain drain as far as it effects their small town economy , but could give a shit in fostering a culture or environment that actually supports and welcomes smart fags. they think rich=smart so they only end up attracting retarded trust fund kids that want whole foods or an erewon in town.And then the only geniuses youll be churning out are people skilled in monkey wrenching and turning cogs for their capitalist overlords.
>>541798278jesus christ do you even KNOW what you want in life or do you just want a constant stream of things to be mad at?
>>541810384No you idiot I'm white all my genes are European, it's hard for me to even get a tan lmao. What do you suggest I do, I'm also vey short and I know women hate short guys.
>>541810423Whites in a hyper capitalistic society are their own worst enemy. They will hollow out towns and destroy White culture if it means they can make 5 million a year instead of 4 million.
>>541810657>Establish a good environment for raising kids.Those good parents would rather live in Westlake or Katy where they can make money and be around amenities. Revealed preference.
>>541810164Yeah California is fucked. Can they just stay there tho?They move and fuck everything up for people who are actually from the community. Even if they don't bring the California left wing politics, they buy up all the property. They won't STFU about California and constantly talk about it too. They're also a weird brand of Republican that is very much not leave me the fuck alone type and I don't want to pay taxes type. Super Nimby and get bent out of shape about permits.It's weird as hell too, because I'm like "how did you discover this place, do you have family?". "No. I just drove through and thought it was nice." There is no fucking way they drove here. There is no reason to drive through. It's like they throw darts at a map of America and decide to live somewhere.
>>541810150No, he is right. It's extremely common for people to set up stalls in farmers' markets and sell produce that purchased from a grocery store or imported trinkets at a marked up price to take advantage of people assuming that it is all locally grown or crafted. There are people doing that in every local farmers' market in the country, and they have been doing it for years.
ITS OVER FOR TIMMY
>>541810750Small business owners are rarely that successful. Their cheapness and spending dollars to save pennies is why they stay small.
>>541810821Tbh it's kinda funny because if everybody knows everybody then the only people who get scammed are people not from the area.
>>541810484>im totally only moving to this small to help them! I don't want the cheap labor at all!Again, this means nothing until you actually do it. Unless you can provide evidence that you paid every White guy in your company more than 38 bucks an hour before you your move it's all talk.
>>541810594Absolutely braindead post. You can't even see the problems.
>>541810707>I base my entire world view on America and Anericans on Hollywood cinema.Get fucked you dumb third world nigger scum.
>>541810922Nuh uh all you gotta do is magically drop a successful company into a small town and boom it will magically turn into new york but for BASED White people
Blessings of Israel
My small town is getting bankrupt (12m in debt up from 8m in 2024) by government pensions becuase all the small town fags wanted more policeSeveral council members run on supporting the thin blue line. So they will be raising property taxes on those oh so affordable homes.No one is talking about it but ive seen it in portland where they slowly raise taxes on homeowners (boiling the frog) until all the poor homeowners are moved into apartment/rental housing or pushed out of the city/town entirely. im pretty sure my city will keep spending and raising the taxes until only richfags and property management companies will be able to buy the real estate around here
>>541811029The banks aren't rejecting the business plan because they're Jewish. It's because the banks aren't a charity and want to see a real ROI and plan.
>>541810821Keep outing yourself as a dumb foreignigger who doesn't know what a fucking farmer's market is.Go ahead and google it and cone back with some kind of dumb monkey " no u " response.
>>541797871Removal of negros and jews
the issue with yt culture is the cart thinks hes infront of the horse. and even as far as the cart thinks hes doesnt need the horse anymore...its time for the horse to run away again like we did from the old world that thought that way too
>>541811121My ROI plan? uhhhh saving the White race!
>>541811195Whats your race is it indian
>>541811092And der boomer will vote themselves to be exempt from property taxes.
>>541810954Cope and seethe more chuddie. ive spent time in small towns and big cities all over americaAnd the conversation is always more stimulating in big cities, and i can often attend talks and lectures in big cities. the only thing ive been able to do in small towns is get harassed by police sing karaoke in bars or go to church and have bible study.
>>541800507eh, the federal government encouraged this outcome by outlawing free association and other methods of avoiding niggers as racismbalkanization and a new government are mandatory prerequisites to fixing america at this point but the very same people who would benefit from that(rural americans) are the most "patriotic" and insistent on keeping this shambling corpse alivethe rural and suburban retard is willing to march over hot coals to make sure the new yorker and californian continue to elect his government for him
>>541810539>You can't just simply redevelop small towns into this utopian ideal like your picrel. You can, but it can require the investment of a LOT of money and time and work for a long time before it's established and self-sustaining. I mean, with enough money you could just buy a plot of empty land somewhere and build an entire planned community somewhere if you can float enough money to keep everything running and nice until you have enough people who have moved there to keep it going. Starting with an existing dead small town *might* be easier/cheaper since there's at least already something there.
>>541811092I've seen that shit happens in both cities and towns. It's hilarious. The problem is the State will pay to imprison people for felonies, but they want to clean up the streets of homeless or tweakers. The issue is the city/county pays to prosecute and jail people for misdemeanors. They'll often couple that with a refusal to expand the jail because that requires a levy for a bond.The cops don't do shit either. They let crime happen blocks away from police station. Prostitution, Drug Dealing, car break ins, catalytic conversion theft, etc. I don't know why cities even bother. Towns for sure don't need a dedicated police department because if it's a serious issue it's county jurisdiction anyway and they have more resources.None of these Facebook boomers actually spend time outside and see the reality of cops doing nothing. If they show up, it's hours afterwards. They don't actually know how lazy the cops are and think Blue Bloods, CSI, or Law and Order is real life.
>>541797871Bring back manufacturing and these people will stay in their towns instead of leaving to look for work
>>541797871Being willing to grow your own food, and I mean all of your own food. That is it, but people are retarded and just want to slave away for their entire life so that they can (((buy))) food.
>>541811307Its amazing how stupid they are and only think of themselves. most of our property is held by nonprofit hospitals and private catholic universities or its held by boomers. If they make the old fags exempt from paying property tax everyone else will see taxes like they would in europe. Except without the solical services europe has. its obvious to me that this city is in a death spiral. No one else really understands becuase the local news tells us everything is a-ok and its the perfect place to buy a house for a family. never mind the massive amount of heavy metals and pollution in the area becuase hicks be hickin when it comes to garbage removal.
probably segregation. no one wants to live around niggers and jeets, mexicans and east asians are cool though
>>541811534Retirees and shifty wiggers that are hard to fire because they're the pnly working age people are not the preferred employees for manufacturing.
>>541811498>Starting with an existing dead small town *might* be easier/cheaper since there's at least already something there.You know it's actually cheaper to just tare down existing infrastructure than it is to fix or maintain existing ones right?
>>541810707Anon, it's 2026. The smart rich city fags have been fleeing pozzed blue cities and flooding into smaller towns in red states where they can work remotely and live like kings around other normal sane White people.
>>541811368Most small town infracstructure heavily depend on federal grants. Balkinization would kill off many small towns
>>541811283lol whats wrong with what i saidi was born in 78 and have ice blue eyes. way whiter then you and i know just hiw much weve lost as i grew up going to a country club... now i drive truck like white trash as its my only option to make over 100kthe truth isnt fun but we need to be painfully honest with our dire current circumstances
>>541811725>rich people have a seasonal home in small towns so they can enjoy some fresh air>small town people think this means rich people secretly want to be poor and work with their hands like they doLmao
>>541811140Keep outing yourself as one of the gullible retards buying overpriced grocery store tomatoes at your local farmers' market because you assume everyone setting up a stall must be a farmer who grew their own produce.
>>541806313Every day I look forward to death more and more. This world is lost completely at this point since people are not destroying these evil (((data centers))), I have lost all faith in my fellow man.
>>541811511Is funny how many of those basic tv channel shows are really just ment to prop up the authority of our institutions like police and doctors or burgiosie rich fags.
>>541811656Most boomers can apply for property tax abatement through the county assessors to get reduced property tax rates. Luckily, most of them are retarded and don't understand how to find/file basic government forms. >>541811733Small towns would vote for it if it was put on the ballot too. They genuinely believe all their tax money from non existent businesses and property that has less value (esp with the infrastructure serving less people and commerce) somehow is funding the entire State Government.Somebody make a initiative to do it.
>>541810910Not that I have a horse in this race, but you can easily provide for a family of 4 on $20/hr in low COLA areas. I know because I'm doing so now.
>>541811873Or they're close enough that the office workers larping as farmers can still come into the office, and are more exurbs than small towns.
>>541797871Partially, yes but the country would have to turn back the clock and reverse much of its sweeping regulatory reforms for the past 55 years. For example, the following industries must be re-regulated:>airlines>freight railroads>trucking>busing (like Greyhound)>utilitiesThese all used to be regulated so that they were required to serve rural customers at the same price per mile as urban customers. Yes, this means that urban and suburban customers paid more and subsidized services to rural customers. The government needs to expand Amtrak and require it to serve rural areas, as passenger railroads once did. And USPS needs to revitalize their rural activities instead of subjecting them to austerity reforms as it has for decades. Post offices are central economic and sometimes social hubs for many small towns. However, they cannot be fully revitalized because they grew up at a time where their populations were much larger than now. Their populations were larger because America was more agrarian than now and farming families could use the labor. Migrant farm labor, mechanization, mode fertilizers and pesticides have made it so farmers need 1/10th the American labor to do 10x the crops. That cannot be undone and should not be undone (except for the migrant labor part). There literally are not enough jobs for the exiting populations, so just adding more won’t work. I think the key is to make the rural communities better to where the young will want to stay. You have to make it a better option than the urban and suburban life that is, frankly, better. >How you gonna keep ’em down on the farm once they’ve seen Karl Hungus?
>>541811703Yes, which is why I said it *might* be easier or cheaper. If the hypothetical small town is still in good condition and just dead because no one lives there, that's much easier to deal with than trying to restore old buildings that are falling apart and filled with asbestos and rot.
>>541811725>>541811873this is correct.
>>541812011>>541811656Also that's already a thing even without property tax abatement (which Boomers don't know how to do) because many states limit the amount property taxes can increase per year. So if they bought their house in 1970, 1980, 1990 something they basically aren't paying what a normal property tax would be.
>>541811873I'm not talking about vacation homes you retard. There has been a massive migration of high income remote workers out of major cities into smaller towns for the last 5+ years.>small town people think this means rich people secretly want to be poor and work with their hands like they doI never said or suggested anything like that, in fact I pretty much said the exact opposite. Put more effort into your reading comprehension and less into trying to LARP like you are rich or important.
>>541797871Indians. Lots and lots of indians.
>>541812046Sure you could do that but we shouldn't have to. White Americans should not have to live like a immigrant from south America.
>>541812259That doesn't revitalize towns. It just makes the small town death spiral even worse because they tend to be super nimby and cause property prices to be unaffordable for any young person who might've wished to stay. They vote down any school, fire, or whatever levy because they aren't actually from there and don't give a shit. And the government is one of the only real employers in small towns.
>>541812441I own my house, have a retirement fund, a garden, 2 cars (2023 and 2018). If this is what South America is like... well I wouldn't want to go there because its too hot.
>>541812090Sounds like a lot of rural areas are money pits that should just provide essential services to the grandfathered boomers, and then be abandoned.
>>541811346>If I pretend to have rejected them, it won't hurt so badly to admit it was they, who have rejected me.Those people smelled the stink of your fetid soul and didn't want you hanging around.But being polite White small town Americans, they didn't want to come right out and say it.But, you of course felt it. If even on a subconscious level.And its why you lash out at them with your insults.
>>541812103It's not much easier to deal with. Why do you think cities like Dallas and Houston build outwards instead of rebuilding and reshaping their inner cities? Because it's cheaper to expand than it is to maintain or repair old infrastructure.Also you act like the plumbing and wiring in these buildings are just slightly used and don't decay, well they do and the plumbing alone is a huge project that many small towns are unable to deal with because it's just too costly.
>>541811903I grow my own tomatoes.
>>541812259They mostly moved back. It was a fad.
>>541812771>Moving as far away from niggers as possible was a passing fad>They actually ended up missing the nigger crime, stink, noise, and filth and moved back to the city shit holes
>>541812259Point to a small town that's was magically changed into a major city because work from home yuppies moved there in the last 5 years. You can't because that doesn't happen and that boom of rich people you saw moving into your small town was just them finding a new seasonal home for a few years.
>>541812259The higher income workers are mostly retarded, but with knowledge of sql and php. the only thing that happened when these richfags moved into my small town?All the business owners and landlords sarted raising their prices becuase these richfags can pay big city prices. it turned every small town into a big city economy without any of the perks of a big city.
>>541812937No they actually went back to the major cities, priced out all the non-whites from their homes, and turned them into studio apartments. Why do you think dumps like Houston got to host some world cup games? It's because rich Whites have been investing and terraforming the inner cities for fun on their own dime.
>>541812601America is reverting back to pre ww2 standards.
>>541812953Or they got RTO'd, or they didn't like their kids being around unambitious people with no tutors, or they missed the amenities, or their careers stagnated because of no professional networking opportunities. For a lot of people, it was an expensive mistake. And really, a lot of them were moving to big cities in red states like ATX or DFW, not Dead Boomer Storage, AR.
>>541812622Keep posting more of your fantastic delusionsI find them hilarious
>>541812573>I'm retired and I work at home depot as a part timer. Why can't these young just work for 20 bucks an hour like me?Bait or stupid boomer
>>541813133In pre WW2 America White Working Class people could afford to live in Manhattan, Brooklyn, etc. They could afford to live in Los Angeles in the hills. Compton was White. Much of the Bay Area was White. The city of Detroit had White neighborhoods.
>>541812601That’s already happening but in slow motion. You can see this with disincorporations, counties turning paved roads to gravel roads, or gravel roads to dirt roads. But because it is done by the free market, it is slow and ugly. There will always be some people, though. Someone has to operate the combines.
>>541803561>i can agree with the generalization that all A are X>but you're not allowed to say your A is YHow would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning?
>>541813117Sure thing, niggerlover.
>>541813300And ALOT of those whites were backwater hicks who were dumb as hell but knew how to hunt. new york detroit et al still also had poverty and poor houses. The american economy exploded after ww2. And all the poorfag american military got rich from the gi bill. becore ww2 it was the civil war when licoln promised land to any irishman willing to fight for the union. america has always had a wartime economy thats what it seems to do best, except now when their military seems to be too prideful and flying too close to the sun lately.
>>541813133Setting up state trust funds to relocate working age people who want to leave out of the sticks might not be a bad idea. Maybe they won't be such wards of the state if they lived somewhere that wasn't propped up by federal grants and welfare.
>>541813202You can't even post a comment here without first running your sentiments through an llm.And you call me delusional?You're not even behaving like a human being.
>>541813435I actually love it when Whites fix the major cities and relocate non-whites. I'm not sure why you have a problem with it
>>541813415I agree. I've noticed this as well.
>>541813585You underestimate hoe greedy people can be. the state trust fund will be just enough to barely make it if at all and will be mostly used as a slush fund for nepo shits in office. we just need people to quit being little bitches , and to be smart about it. the system wont solve the issue for you when it was the system that made the problem in the first place.
>>541813617Sounds like more cope and seethe desu senpai
>>541813415This is also why I have a lot of contempt for the Ivy-educated conservative pundits that live in places like NYC, DC, and the Bay telling their gullible boomer audiences to push their kids into the BASED countryside.Telling parents to make their kids downwardly mobile to own the libs is disgusting.
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>>541797871Data centres. Check ‘em, boys.
