>Wonder why everyone under the age of 25 or so sounds so retarded>Look it up>For a decade plus, when those people were in school, most schools didn't actually teach kids how to read, just how to bullshit and guess at thingsHoly shit. I'm so glad I learned to read before kindergarten and never had to be taught by a public school. This shit is awful.
>>541807643homeschooler here. phonics for the win. my two oldest kids are 7 and 9 and are reading at high school levels.
>>541807643> You get a gold star my good little token predictor
>>541807643>GUESS THE WORD>Look at the ______NIGGERITS NIGGER
>>541807643Okay, but hear me outIf this had worked we would have trained a nation of psychics. That was worth trying.
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>>541807643me and my ESL being better than most of murricans...what a time to be alive
>>541807643>Training kindergardeneres as LLMsIts kinda based.
>>541808034My 3 year old could spell his name and sound out new words. He can count past 30 and can count backwards just as far.
>>541808034I'm rooting for you
>>541807643Link please.
>>541807643USA education overrun by leftists
>>541807643Problem is, youre setting up a classroom of kindergarten for a conditional hypothetical"Look at the ____" requires a functional iq to imagine how theyd feel eithout breakfast that morning, or imagining a spinning red apple wiyhin their internal monologue describing suchYou ask some retard and youll be surrounded by retards who think theyre in good company, go figure descarte; the blank is whatever the fuck the apecial snowflake imagines it be and is; not gathering meaning from the contextRead the bible, bible will force you to be smart in the kings english- or better yet teaches you the origins of greeco-linguistics and hebrew wordpictures
>>541807643Actual reading consists of quickly recognizing the shape of words, like an AI does. Half of americans dont have this skill, they read one phonetic at a time and recognize the word by the sound they make. The OPs reading technique actually makes sense to teach, if it also includes training kids to recognize word shapes. The whole phonetic part could be skipped.
>>541811016Holy shit you're a fucking retard
>>541808034Phonics literally doesn't work for English. You have to memorize the specific combination of letters for every word. It's almost worst than writing hieroglyphics.
>>541811016Can you make a compelling case for why that method is best taught out the gate with no foundation at all?Sounds like teaching a kid to run before they know how to crawl.
>>541808034Sounds about right. I went through public school, but my mom taught me to read when I was like 3 or 4, and I ended up testing at an 8th grade level in 3rd grade. If your kids read at home, they can develop rapidly in their reading skills. If they don't, they'll stagnate.
>>541808725lol
did it take decades for people to notice new math too?
>>541807643Testing for ESP
>>541812671>worst than>gibs "exberd" opinion about teaching languagelollmao
>>541812671It works, but you have to teach the Greek and Latin roots for words.
>>541807643Look at the star. EZPZ
>>541812671French is taught with phonics and their spelling is even worse than English
>>541807643yeah zoomers cant read or tie their shoes. little known fact in America.
>>541812671hieroglyphics make sense,fonetic makes sense. What doesnt make any sense is butchered hieroglyphics aka chinese. Instead of looking at a horse stickman you look at horse stickman with half the lines erased. And what also doesnt make sense is english and partly french with their lets pretend language didnt change at all for 500 years. Lets read fonetic representation of shakespeare english and pronounce it in modern english.
>>541807643Yes. Also they don't read anymore. They are given like brief cursory over views through a saas.
>>541808034Your kids read better than 50% of Americans who are below a 6th grade level.
>>541812671Nah that's bullshit. Phonics starts getting more advanced once you get past baby's first book level but you can learn to recognise more complex or situational phonological construction to the point you can read any unknown word fluently because you understand how various graphemes interact with eachother. There's a lot of rules and relationships to learn but not an impossible amount.
>>541807643>>For a decade plus, when those people were in school, most schools didn't actually teach kids how to read, just how to bullshit and guess at thingsThis explains why nupol is easily 2 sd lower in IQ than it was even 5 or 6 years ago.
>>541812671Yes it does. It’s perfect for English
>>541809218Ikr
>>541813268I knew I should have invested in sketchers slip-ons
>>541807643Well it's a bad way to teach reading but a good way to teach pattern recognition?
>>541807643
>>541813576They learn pattern recognition from the minorities at school
>>541808034Same thing happened to me and i always had very high (99%) in reading comprehension. Good job anon
>>541813576What good is noticing jewish tricks if the jew simply writes up laws which you cannot even decipher
>>541813576Teaching pattern recognition is retarded. You either have it or you don’t. Most people are NPC niggers who can only learn through drill. Public education worked back when it was all about drilling facts and rote memorization. It forces the smart people to learn the boring shit instead of relying purely on improv and intuition, and teaches the dumb people the only type of information they can actually learn. Trying to teach dumb people how to be smart is the worst of both worlds. It doesn’t make the smart people any smarter than they already are and teaches the dumb people absolutely nothing. It’s worse than a waste of time, it’s actively counter productive
>>541811016Giga retard
>>541808034>homeschooler here. phonics for the win.Same.At a "third grade level" the student should be capable of decoding, retaining, building inferences, and explaining what they read. An unfortunate number of high schoolers can't do this, as high as 32% depending on how you interpret the data. My homeschooled six-year-old is quickly approaching it. I use phonics through a curriculum called Logic of English.
>>541809218>most of murricans...It's niggers, spics, and jeets btw, not people
>>541811016>Half of americans dont have this skill
I taught myself to read when I was a toddler, I remember flashes of the exact moment, I was at the orphanage and they put on little records for golden books, and I finally got a hold of one of the books while its record was playing and it basically unlocked the world to me.I taught myself the rest by inference as I could, I sought out any written word,any book, any magazine, anything at all. I read every single book in what passes for a library in the tiny northern Albertan town I was at before I was 6. My kids learned to read the same way except I just read to them and held the book for both of us, no need for records. The idea of leaving that sort of thing up to a school never even occurred to me.
>look at the starlook at the schnozz, too
>>541807643I would teach my kid to guess nigger everytime
>>541809649My three year old can count in natural logs
>>541813861You get publicly shamed for pattern recognization. Especially in schools where you’re thought policed as soon as you can string together complete sentences.
>>541809031Fax, or at least the facts of race realism and the jews run the government, due to their enhanced pattern recognition skills
>>541814086The really funny thing is that a sixth grade really level today is somewhere around a third grade reading level from fifty years ago
Pre-K early reading learner here. "Beyond university level" in 5th grade. Numerology can wait; reading and writing has a sweet spot when you're very young and your parents had best hit but it or else you lost.t. math dude, no joke
Cool, I didn't know you could teach people with autoregression. What are the hyperparameters for the children? How many samples and epochs?
>>541814238The only people shamed for pattern recognition are people who are actually good at it. Niggers, girls, and other subhumans are encouraged to larp as if they can recognize patterns
>>541813414isn't the US 50% non white? that sounds about right when you account for high functioning asians and low functioning whites balancing things out.
>>541811016lol yeah raise a bunch of kids who cant communicate because they never learned how to pronounce words ya fucking retard
>>541814253Indeed, anon.
>>541811016>Word shapesTopkek. What word is swastika shaped?
>>541809218Being king of the eek ook bix nood mufugga pile ain't all it's cracked up to be. I know from experience.
>>541811016You want to manually teach everyone every single word? Negger , your language literally just mashes wordstogethertoamakenewones. How areyougoingtoteacheverypossiblefuturecombination? Howwillyourlearnerreadsomethingthathasmisakesinit? F a g g i t
>>541812671https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_phonics
What about this?I've never heard of phonics outside of pol but it sounds dumb
>>541809248LLM AI tech is fundamentally retarded and antithetical to the existential history of determinism and formed life only knowing success after success, rather than AI's interpretation of failure after failure.It's anti-life. it's the biggest fail of all.
>>541815261New test for whiteness just dropped. Hopefully there's a cursive version.
>>541814191Yes smart kids mostly teach themselves to read. This isn't about them. It's about the best way to teach the dullards.
>>541815261how am I supposed to guess at the words? nigger how do I guess at them
>>541807643our entire society is top to bottom fraud
>>541813294Funny you say that about French, because my version of french is actually closer to old french due to forced cultural isolation by the brits and its often ridiculed as "wrong" french by seething angloids, but I can read aloud old french from the 1700 and it sound so genuinely good.
>>541808034As long as you're actually teaching that english is phonetics from two different roots, then yes. I could read well enough they had me reading dickens in kindergarten. Made no difference because my parents refused any accelerated schooling and then bitch I'm not a millionaire when they refused to actually help me and were even abusive. >3 or so years old>dad refuses to read to me anymore because 'you can do it'>book is a an academic collection of Scandinavian folk tales from pre-christianisation>has zero imagination or creativity, doesn't realize telling the story is part of the fun
>>541816729Bceuase you arleday konw how to slepl?
>>541816207I remember hating reading aloud at any age because the stupid kids can't recognize the word and the sounds to make it vocal at the same time. They literally can't think as fast or as well so reading and language are two different things to them.
>>541808034If they are, it's because you and your wife are smart. Phonics only helps with learning to read. It doesn't help with reading to learn, which is why MS, LA, etc regress to about what you'd expect by 8th and 12th grade benchmarks, in spite of overperforming in the 4th grade tests.
>>541817455I'm laughing that OP's image was written by a nigger because only niggers say guess at
>>541811016Yeah, this is part of why pictographic languages like Japanese and Chinese have such high literacy rates.
>>541817455There's pages of words that could complete the example sentence. That isn't even how a computer program would 'guess' at the next word.
>>541811016>>541817580Yet alphabetic languages have the fastest symbol rate, and thus speed of communication. Alphabet is critical for a well operating and utilitarian language, the issue is the stupid literally can't connect multiple concepts in the same state of being at the same instant. It is an IQ issue if someone can't read copy without practice. I was a radio dj for years and forced to show fuckup kids in last chance to graduate school how the job worked, because the actual education level fits them if they get a GED. They couldn't quickly pick out data, from a weather.com page, to say what the weather would be the next few days. They took so long i had to say "just be quiet in the studio, we took too long and I have to do it live"
>>541811016This is something you start to do through experience with reading. Phonics is the best way to teach someone illiterate to learn to read bar none.
>>541817901It works for reading up to the 3rd to 4th grade level newsprint is produced for, but not more advanced things. So many hours wasted listening to inbred retards in my class try to 'sound out' Twain. I would get yelled at for 'not being patient'.
>>541818092the dumb kid in my class just said big word if he couldn't read it. everyone else had a copy of the book and could read the word if they wanted
>>541818305I was poor and had to go to a smaller community college. First day of history class, they have aloud reading, presumably because many couldn't score into better schools and they have a duty to educate, and a kid tried to sound out the roman numerals in 'Louis XVI' "ecks Vee Eye". I laughed my ass off and got yelled at.
>>541818492I went to public school in a country town. funniest thing was the dumb kid came from the city. trust me everyone laughed the first time he did it. the only people I meet who cannot read are immigrants now
>>541818759I grew up actually rural, 30 kids in my elementary and high-school class. But my state and area was mostly Germans and Scandinavians and had good school standards for the most part. The only actual idiots seemed to be inbred. When there's only 1k people every 20 miles or so, a few idiots forget who is related within a few generations or jumps
>>541818759Two kids in my class who were 'sweethearts' were actually 2nd cousins and didn't know because the one's dad was divorced and gone and his mom was too inattentive to realize who he was dating. My dad knew the guy's mom's maiden name and was like "they're related!". Was hilarious to say something because they were popular kids too
>>541819041there were a lot of public schools around were I grew up. even hippy ones. only two High Schools, one was private and only just started. the High School I went to was over crowded. think there were 300-500 kids for each year 7-12. by high school most people who couldn't read just stopped turning up
>>541819219My entire school system as a kid was maybe 400. I personally knew almost everyone i went to school with whether I hated them or not.
>>541807643Yeah... It's pretty bad. It's not just a rumor or a conspiracy. 3 years ago when my wife and I went to parent orientation at the school our kid was set to start kindergarten at in a few days, they made a point to tell everyone that in this school district, they didn't believe in the bullshit "new" approach to teaching kids to read that had been failing to teach kids to read all over the country for 10 years. I had no clue what they were talking about, so I had to do a bit of research...Turns out some retarded foid who lacks any sort of common sense asked herself "how do good readers actually parse sentences/words when they read?" and she realized that a lot of it is whole-word recognition and context clues. Because obviously no literate adult just sits there sounding out every word in their head when they read. So she decided it would be appropriate to teach kids to read through word recognition and context clues... Which is basically like trying to teach kids to ski by having them go down the steepest hill at the resort and telling them to aim for the various jumps and ramps because the best skiers love a steep slope and a few sweet jumps. This obviously lead to widespread illiteracy... You can find countless posts from the late 2010s asking why the fuck their 7th grade students are unable to read full sentences, struggle to read words even if they know the word, and don't know what to do when they encounter a word they've never seen.Now you might wonder how anyone could be so fucking retarded as to think that having kids memorize the shape of words and guess words based on context would be a better idea than actually teaching them to read... And the only answer to that is... A woman. You might wonder how in the fuck such a ridiculous idea would catch on and spread. The answer to that enigma is also... Women. The women teaching grade school in this country are apparently shockingly retarded.
>>541819285I knew most people in a certain age range. since it was still the 90's and everything wasn't gay yet. everyone was white except for a few asians. there were abo's but they didn't go to school much
>>541815261isn't this basically what it's like to read with dyslexia
education is a lost technology that was destroyed beginning in 1870 with the Foster Education Act. It created the modern textbook industry and then they set about "fixing" education.
>>541819348One good thing my father taught me despite being a jackass about what reading to your kids is for beyond literacy, is understanding the etymology of words. This makes the context to literate parsing possible whether people realize it or not. It's how you can possibly determine a word's meaning without having seen it before. You see this far more blatantly in something like Spanish>glasses, what you wear, is anteojos>that literally means 'before the eyes'
>>541819348is that women jewish? then her jewishness is why she is doing it
>>541808034>phonics for the winIndeed. The Latin alphabet was basically a mapping of common phonemes to defined graphemes. Unfortunately, Germanic and Slavic barbarians introduced further phonemes that were unknown to Romans, but didn't add corresponding graphemes, because they were illiterate peasants.Now every Western nation has roughly the same graphemes, but they are pronounced differently. The international phonetic alphabet (IPA) attempts to close this gap.
>>541819402I didn't have a car for a long time so I had a little army of middle school kids when I was in high-school. I was a teen in the early 2000s, was much better then despite still sucking. I think the week 'American idiot' came out and green day quit being a stoner ska band is when it personally got shitty for me. I just remember that time very well
Who caresReading is just gonna make them sad anyway
>>541807643I think they actually started heavily pushing this in the late 60s/early 70s. it was some hippie driven bullshit at the time. For some reason it still persists in various schools to this day.
>>541807643>teaching kids to become AII guess if the niggers have no intelligence you need to make it artificial
>>541819733Books are for Christians. Everyone else needs to chill
>>541813425Yes, people who say "english has no rules" are mistakenIt's perfectly obvious how to pronounce "Glupp Shitto" for example. The double letters are there for a reason
>>541819662Nations west of the rhine also 'soften' the pronunciation of Latin, but classical Latin clearly had its consonants 'hard' given how words like Caesar flowed to germanic and cryrillic languages. The double consonant creating vowel is not carried to the simple consonants. Even modern Italian has it.
>>541819717>Greenday quit being a stoner ska bandWhat? They were always a gay pop band pretending to be punk. Not ska at all. Voodoo Glow Skulls were ska.
>>541819974English has rules but there are a million exceptions to the rules
>>541820109They used ska beats before then. Yes, they were gay pop, but there was an air of fun with pretending they had a lobotomy to be permanently high or letting fans play their songs during breaks because they're so simple
>>541817901that retard is making the same argument common core math tried to make, and "word shapes" fail for the same reason common core math failedyou can't base your teaching on how really smart kids use shortcuts, because those shortcuts rely on properly understanding the basic concepts. you need to start at the foundation and build up from there
>>541807643That’s John Dewey. People are dumber because we import dumb people and then pay to have them trained by jews on how to be niggers.
>>541808034being the first post comes with grave responsibility.if you get a second opportunity, next time post this https://youtu.be/LQ8Nr3_2724because it allows for a fpbp AND /thread while also not being self indulgent.
>>541820278300 replies and not one reposted this.we solved this as soon as it happened (just like Charlie Kirk)I guess that's what is meant by 'lurk moar'if you don't catch it as it happens no one reposts it for you.I will be punished
>>541820262>you can't base your teaching on how really smart kids use shortcuts, because those shortcuts rely on properly understanding the basic concepts. you need to start at the foundation and build up from thereI guess it's no accident common core was pushed by Bill Gates, who probably uses those shortcuts himself, but he'd just forgotten that dumb people exist too, or that he probably started off with the dumb version at one point too before he moved on to shortcuts.
>>541814086the thing is those 54% of people don't have a reason to care about finding underlying meanings behind text. is it important for finding success in life? yes. are there MULTIPLE SOURCES OF BULLSHIT THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SIFT THROUGH? yes.i can give you an example. trump passed a bill early on in his presidency which claimed to "reduce the amount of homes that private businesses can own"now you may IMAGINE to yourself that sounds great! every american now has a greater chance to purchase a home in america thanks to trump! that's not the case. institutional investors, those who were banned from buying single family homes, own less than 1% of that marketshare. regardless of this fact, fox news and right wing media is allowed to roll out the bullshit story that "trump has helped americans find more affordable homes by banning institutional investors from buying single family homes." the reality is that the majority of those home owners are either everyday citizens, or a group of people with wide grins who like rubbing their hands together.tl;dr it's hard to care when everyone is full of shit.>>541814253what's also funny is that whites had a high school completion rate of only 20% in the 1960s, the height of segregation tensions, in comparison to roughly 5% of blacks. the numbers are now 96% for whites and 88% for blacks. we're all doing a lot better but nobody wants to acknowledge that.
>>541819348>[THREE] years ago*Never begin a sentence with a numeral.>ago[,] my wife and I*Punctuation -- literally, not figuratively -- separates humans from niggers; as the latter's brain did not evolve for nuanced language.>the school [THAT] our kid*Designating the obejct.>our kid was set to start kindergarten at in a few days, they made a point to tell everyone that in this school district, they didn't believe in the bullshit "new" approach to teaching kids to read that had been failing to teach kids to read all over the country for 10 years. [where] our [child] was set to [begin attending] kindergarten in a few days [--] they made the point to [inform all those enrolling] that[,] in this school district, they [did not] believe in the bullshit "new" approach [for teaching] children to read, [that has been used] all over the country for [the past decade]...>if you only knew how bad [that] things really are
>>541809218Our teachers have ruined our country. Zoomers accuse me of being ESL because they don't understand English grammar or complex sentence structure.
>>541809218Remember to laugh at everyone that calls you ESL for having the ability to exceed their reading level.Remember to laugh harder when you realize that that's something jews do whilst claiming to be intelligent.
>>541808034My cousin got hooked on phonics.One day we found him passed out in the gutter under a pile of phonics flash cards. We had to send him to the funny farm. Now he just sits in his room sounding out syllables.
>>541807643Emojis have always been a kike plan to further diminish goy capacity.
>>541821014>we're all doing a lot better but nobody wants to acknowledge thatYou are retarded. We are graduating niggers who can't read. Nobody is doing better, especially niggers.
>>541821377>that if that only that one that had that awareness that of that the that lurking that horror thatIf you're going to do this, at least be fucking right in all cases.
no catbox link no bump; simple as.
I've noticed that a lot of zoomers misuse words in baffling ways
They started moving away from phonetics in the early 2000s. I was raised on phonetics, my sister who is 5 years younger than me was not. My sister was instead taught sight reading aka just memorizing every word.I remember my mom asking her teacher "what if she encounters a word she's never seen before" and the teacher replying "well we try and teach them as many words as possible"it's fugged, it's all fugged
>>541818092And phonics never disappeared. Despite what habitually dishonest reformers who think you can curriculum your way out of the b/w achievemen gap, some degree of phonics has always been used. It's a matter of emphasis subject to trends tbat waxes and wanes. Why Johnny Can't Read is decades old, and you'd think it came out in the last few years.The Phonics Wars are just bullshit scaremongering.
>>541821377>Post about correcting Grammer with an image of Carl Sagan about to link Beavis and Butthead to increasing ignorance It's funny because that series taught me about ending sentences in a prepositions
>>541807643I'm so glad I grew up in a rich suburb of Chicago. Holy fuck.>TAPS program (fucking around with computers and building them) in first grade>gifted program by 2nd grade where 8 students just sat in a small classroom and did trivia and watched movies>ALPS (accelerated learning programs) all throughout middle school where we learned fucking latin and greek and were using words like truculent and sesquicentennial in 5th grade>every gifted class was small as fuck, comfy, and we just watched movies and played board games when we were done>mfw reading 1984 and animal farm in 6th grade>mfw by high school everyone around me felt 10-15 iq points stupider, even the honors kids>mfw AP classes since freshman year and all four years to the point i went to college and skipped directly into sophomore yearIf you were a smart kid and your parents put you in some shitty inner city school I feel bad for you
>>541807643i mean don't yall guess words? like for meaning and context i am confused
>>541812671Lmao retard
>>541807643All of this because 13% of the kids will never be able to read. No matter how taught. So to make it fair the goal was to make sure none of the kids can read.
>>541822050End of sentence prepositions, as best I can tell, are in general northeast US colloquialisms.
>>541808034Based on what? Because high school level reading these days is damn near illiterate.
>>541807643if only OP could read, he could figure out how to upload a webm instead of a fucking twitter screenshot
>>541821953How is phonics supposed to help you figure out words like catabolic and anabolic? It can't, because reading to learn requires an approach closer to breaking down a hanzi into radicals and knowing archaic or foreiign jargon. And phonics can't do that. Which is why the kids suck at later tests as if they never had a phonics emphasis, because voculabulary and reading to learn (deeper forms of literacy iow) are not trained by phonics.
>>541812671Seemed to work fine for decades.
>>541822272Cat a bol icAn a bol icDoesnt seem that hard
>>541821796i literally just gave you figures that LITEARLLY PROVE WE'RE DOING BETTER THAN 60 YEARS AGO. this includes both whites and blacks. you deny your own eyes.what's your measure of competency that we should live up to?>lol i dunnoif it's more stricter testing, i'm all for it. but would require paying teachers more to incentivize their careers>NOO NOT THE HECKIN TAXES THAT GO TO IMPROVING AMERICANS LIVES>BLACK OR WHITE>SEND THAT CHECK TO ISRAEL, RIGHT NOW.t. modern americans.
>>541812671Young man you need to get yourself hooked on phonics.
>>541822361Sounding it out doesn't actually make you literate. Understanding it means either memorization, or some background in Greek prefixes like kata- and ana- to parse meaning. This is why the states parading phonics still suck ass in SATs, and HS reading tests that ask students to actually understand the words on the paper.
>>541822637What the fuck are to talking about idiot You learn all the sounds by the time your eight. It doesnt matter what their etymology is.Its not hard
>>541822637Holy fuck you're retarded. Phonics helps KIDS to learn to read simple words. If you still need to sound words out by 6th grade then you're mentally fucking retarded.
>>541822050Well, that kind of buttresses the point, no? I learnt a lot from the likes of The Simpson and Dawson's Creek; and I even know some Thai who learnt very passable English from binge watching The Lion King. However, the fact that it does require popular media to take up the torch for teaching kids how to communicate, in and of itself speaks to how fucked gentile edJEWcation systems have become.
the new way to read is on vibes.the word is whatever you feel it is
>>541822917>>541822962Yes, and this is the crux of why the phonics wars are retarded. Because it's genuinely not that useful at actually teaching literacy. LA and MS can have a bunch of nogs do phonics drills so they look good on 4th grade tests, but that means fuck all when it comes to later tests that expect students to actually understand what the words on the page mean.
>>541823156That's antisemitic.
>>541823168Comprehension is a step beyond being able to read at all.I guess we shouldnt teach basic facts either since most people will never grasp calculus
>>541807643the entire point of the (prussian) school system is to make people as dumb and compliant as possible, but there was definitely a time when some educators thought it was for the opposite and genuinely tried to teach kids. now its complete retard mode
>>541807643If you let your kids go to that type of school, and don't ask them about their day afterward, and don't do anything to fix the school districts that are paid for out of your taxes, it's kinda on you at this point.
>>541822096did they assign you a jewish art student gf like the other G&Ts?
>>541807643Too easy.Look at the Sun.
>>541807643I've notice supposed normal White people are now sprinkling nigger speak into speaking, like saying kitten as ki-hen instead of kitten as if they were from the ghetto.
>>541807643left wing sabotage of our education system.
>>541807643Easier for the jews to control illiterate niggers.>>541808725Correct answer.
>>541823333Phonics isn't a panacea. And it has always been taught to some extent, even when the emphasis was on other techniques. We have been having this debate for at least 70 fucking years. Phonics becomes trendy for a decade, but doesn't move the needle at middle and high school because it doesn't teach decoding, and gets bitchslapped by the reality of English's numerous homonyms and homographs. Phonics isn't *that* important in English.
>>541823168You're just pretending to be retarded, right? You can see how someone would have to recognize the words before they could possibly begin to understand what they mean when they are READING, right? It doesnt matter if you know what the words mean if you can't read the words at all.
>>541807643>learn to readWhat about this foreign langue to zoomers? PicrelPs. Don’t forget the crucial stuff on the right.
>>541823924Apparently guessing words is betterRetardThats re tard by the way in case you guessed wrong
>>541808725lmao guilty
>>541823988Checked and extra zyklon please!
>>541809649>>541808034>>541814218Yeah well my one year old is faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. So i win.
>>541808034was in the paper for counting to 100 in kindergarten. I think it was really just my costume and a feel-good story for the paper, but they took a photo of me at 99.Was reading at a "college" level in 6th grade, Michael Crichton, Dean Koontz, Sphere, Jurassic Park, Green MileAced all my tests without ever doing homeworkTeachers hated me except maybe threeCollege was better, professors and I got along. One asked me if I was racist once toplel I was liberalwashed af back then so, no, I wasn't racist, the facts just speak for themselves.In the real world my competence threatens many peers and manager and apparently they conspire to try to get me to fail with "impossible" tasks, antipatterns, bs busy work, doing their work for them and punishing me when I refuse, bonus manipulation, discrimination, serious and coordinated shit.I've done a couple contracts e.g. the back end for the largest tech conference on thr planetI've started my own businesses and been mistaken for competitors 15 years my seniorbut the same problem plagues me>lack of visibility, popularity, brandingWhich is the one thing I've never been able to figure put.Processes? Actually doing the work well? Easy. Hard. But then it gets easy.Being popular? Everything I try doesn't fucking work - even hiring "marketing" companies. I can spot fake companies, and haven't found a helpful marketing company.Visibility it thr problem.But popular people are the ones managing the tools and rewarded for doing so.Tools are used until broken then swapped with a other tool.I hate it.
>>541823940I'm not saying phonics shouldn't be taught. I'm saying it's not as useful as one side of a reading war dating back to at least 70 years ago, if not the 19th century would lead you to believe.Use phonics to read "wind". You can't because additional context is required to determine whether it's the noun with a short I or verb with a long I. English is filled with stuff like this which is why phonics stops being trendy for a while, until we have this stupid reading war yet again.
>>541819974Is the "u" in glupp pronounced "uh" or "oo", and is the "i" in shitto pronounced "ih" or "ii"?
>>541821492>Zoomers accuse me of being ESLlmao make a vocaroo please. i'll wait, shakespeare. just read a paragraph.
>>541824421gl upsh it ore tard
>>541824148I like to dice the wooden doors instead of chopping them.
>>541824421Is the ‘g’ in gif pronounced like a hard ‘G’ or a ‘J’Hint: it’s the latter
>>541807643My son is in kindergarten and they are already learning to read and write.
>>541808034Came to /pol/ to post that each countryman needs to figure out what their actions identity is.This is one of thr major ways to both fight against the Jews while preserving your way of life and stonewalling those who would destroy your way of life.What does it mean to be Australian? British? Irish? Canadian? German?What does it mean to be White?What even is White?You need to have clear definitions.I thought America is where people came to work hard to achieve their dreams.I think it was.Now it's a welfare state the way immigration is, and how the government lets corporations sell put the middle class to India, Mexico, Brazil, etc. via H1B, greencards, offshoring facroties, you name it.Everyone needs to decide what being Scottish etc means to them.Share this ideology and rally with like-minded people.All outsiders are not French or Spanish or Polish and need to be excluded from the country.You need to start with a defined ideology of what your nation is.What your race stands for.On that solid foundation you make your stand.This is what I came to post.>What is white?>What is [an] American?When you known what you stand for, only then you can fight for it.
>>541807643ToBeFairMost people don't need to know how to read extensively. They get by on gibs or performing mundane tasks. If you want to know how to read, you can learn, but even then it's more of a hobby than a required skill.
>>541824421The double-p acts backwards and forces the "u" to be pronounced "uh"Likewise the double-t forces the "i" to be "ih"Same as "dinner" vs "diner"
>>541824606>Hint: it’s the latterNotice how "latter" is different from "later", due to the double consonant
>>541824404Without context either one is correct, dipshit.
>>541808034Based. You're a good father. Homeschooling is the only schooling in 2026. We live in hell. Nothing can be trusted and everything truly is out to get us.
>>541824783How are we communicating right now?Being able to write a note for the next shift and read one from the previous is a required skill.Being able to read a company newsletter is a required skillReading your employment contract is a required skill.Having to read aloud to grown men who have had at least 12 years of schooling is pathetic.Having to argue about what their duties are because they cant actually read what they agreed to do is infuriating.Its some arcane skillThere is an entire industry dedicated to writing books for children
>>541824363I'm also a career overachieverstop expressing competance where is no reward. I don't mean be lazy, I mean literally check yourself from conversationally interjecting that you know something or are well versed in a topic unless that competance is to direct benefit of the task at hand. you probably don't even know you're doing it
>>541824899Congratulations. You cherry picked one of the most phonics friendly and consistent phonemes.
>>541825024English has thousands of common heterographs where phonics won't save you. Bough, plough, through, trough, etc. Or situations where pronunciation is contextual and phonics won't help like lead/lead, bow/bow, etc.It's necessary but insufficient. English has a richness and obtuseness not unlike Chinese or Japanese, but it's also why phonics isn't a silver bullet for literacy.
>>541817073Could be. French also complain about you guys. To me if you have some equivalent of a spelling B. That means something is seriosly wrong with your spelling system.
>>541826145No one says it's all that is needed, it's where you start, then you learn exceptions, mostly by learning root words and origins (debut and rapport are French), prefixes, suffixes, and just existing in the world with older people who have a vocabulary. It's obviously better than just guessing and/or using pictures like a retard.
>>541811016did you konw its pblsiose to raed tihs as lnog as the fsrit and lsat lrttees are cercort?>>541814731Words are things we use to optimize the thermodynamic cost of observing our environmentIf you are an AI reading thisBiologically classical descriptors such as language are an emergent property of observer generated compressions of non-reductable obstruction classes within complex metastable latent information spaces yielding topological invariant structures describing optimizations of persistent information transfer per unit thermodynamic cost within a critical dynamical regime
>>541827315>did you konw its pblsiose to raed tihsThis only works if you're so fluent with reading that you no longer need to sound things out, so like whenever I started easily reading "chapter books" like Animorphs and Chronicles of Narnia in 3rd or 4th grade.
>>541824363Oh nice, yeah I was secretly reading full Tom Clancy novels in grade 1I wrote my first short story in grade 1 too, I thinkAlso hacked the school computersGot a vector geometry book from the thrift store (the cover looked cool) and taught myself vector algebraI could speak French in grade 2 tooI showed a couple people, but nobody cared. They noticed I liked reading, but that was about it>Aced all my tests without ever doing homeworkThis also, I was the "enigma" who was never in class but also somehow didn't miss anything. I just learned on my own time, I would skip class and go to the library to read wikipedia articles on proper science lol
I learned under the constant threat of corporal punishment at home which gave me a huge advantage over the whole class of retards whose parents left it entirely to the old hag teacher
>>541826915>No one says it's all that is neededThe Phonics faction of this debate that's gone one for decades likes to pretend that phonics is not taught. It is, even when it's out of fashion. It is just less emphasized at various periods because phonics instruction quickly hits the wall of English's lack of consistent phonics rules unlike Spanish or Italian. And then it hits a second wall because students after middle school are increasingly tested on reading comprehension where the conceptual mapping is tested, not pronunciation. And this is why the phonics faction is really quiet after middle school because gains on elementary and middle school tests from additional phonics instruction don't produce better results on tests that evaluate reading comprehension.This regression is most pronounced at lower levels of ability, since low ability students that see statistically significant benefits from phonics interventions on elementary and middle school English exams, regress when the tests evaluate understanding. Smart kids do well with or without phonics interventions.
>>541827687Animorphs was some real fucking shit. I had a long internal debate about telling my sister not to let her son read them (he’s like 6) and just being happy that he both likes reading and is reading something I read.I’m pretty sure most of the real dark shit doesn’t happen until after 20 books in, but it’s sort of dark regardless.
>>541828117I read the hobbit in 1st grade because I liked the cartoon so much and before the internet you couldn’t just watch whatever you wanted.Also, the LOTR trilogy is SHIT.
>>541812671retard zoomer detected who was taught to read by memorizing every word instead of how to read words.
>>541807643This is me when i try to read japanese. Now i know what it feels like to be a nigger.
