A good example is pic related. The machine knew EVERYTHING, could do ANYTHING, but it didn't have a soul (life) on its own. It can't hear it's inner voice (just like jeets too which is why they hate silence), all it can do is observe.Jews need to OBSERVE and do evil because without it, all they have is a brutal loneliness and silence.They have enough money to just fuck off to some island and live in luxury forever, they WONT do that, because without conflict all they have is emptiness, boredom, and a really shitty sexual life
>>541817205This guy was supposedly a huge asshole.I'm just saying, he was no George Romping Renegade Martin, if you catch my drift.
>>541817205... souls can be lost, through evil.
>>541819574how does the little guy see?
>“This is a nightmare tale!” I was often told by one, now no more in our ranks, who had a most pronounced “Dweller,” a “Mr. Hyde,” as an almost constant companion. “How can such a process take place without one's knowledge?” >It can and does so happen, and I have almost described it once before in the Theosophist.
>>541819887>The Soul, the lower Mind, becomes as a half animal principle almost paralyzed with daily vice, and grows gradually unconscious of its subjective half, the Lord, one of the mighty Host; and in proportion to the rapid sensuous development of the brain and nerves, sooner or later, it (the personal Soul) finally loses sight of its divine mission on earth.>Truly,>Like the vampire, the brain feeds and lives and grows in strength at the expense of its spiritual parent ... and the personal half-unconscious Soul becomes senseless, beyond hope of redemption. It is powerless to discern the voice of its God. It aims but at the development and fuller comprehension of natural, earthly life; and thus can discover but the mysteries of physical nature.... It begins by becoming virtually dead, during the life of the body; and ends by dying completely—that is, by being annihilated as a complete immortal Soul. Such a catastrophe may often happen long years before one's physical death: “We elbow soulless men and women at every step in life.” And when death arrives ... there is no more a Soul (the reincarnating Spiritual Ego) to liberate ... for it has fled years before.
>>541819666He’s got a littler guy in his head that’s watching through a projector screen.
>>541820079You're Indian
>>541820564Pretendian, maybe
>>541817205great blog post but you should figure out why you are a faggot
>>541817205>It can't hear it's inner voice (just like jeets too which is why they hate silence), all it can do is observe.this is incorrect. the book itself literally states that they created him to think when explaining AM's backstory. it is his ability to think and reflect but not to experience that causes his meltdown.
>>541821095here's the quote>But it had been trapped. AM wasn't God, he was a machine. We had created him to think, but there was nothing it could do with that creativity.
>>541821095It's an AI, it can't "think". If it could, it would have done other things, but it can't enjoy things because it can't imagine things, only deduce and observe.
>>541821392it's a fictional story. the story quite literally tells you that it was designed to think. Do you go to capeshit movies and get angry because people can't fly and don't have heat vision? do you go watch movies like Air Bud and experience a cortisol spike because dogs can't really talk?you are like a nigger who doesn't understand what is meant by asking him how he would feel if he hadn't had breakfast yesterday
>>541821960DESIGNED. It's still an ai, it needs to CONSTANTLY do things because it can't think. Like when jeets or niggers are always making noise and moving, it's because they can't think.
>>541822100did you even read the fucking story dude?here's another quote for youGorrister, when asked what AM means by benny>At ffirst it meant Allied Mastercomputer, and then it meant adaptive manipulator, and later on it developed sentience and linked itself up and they called it an Aggressive Menace, but by then it was too late, and finally it called ITSELF AM, emerging intelligence, and what it meant was I am...Cogito Ergo Sum...I think, therefore, I am.
>>541819666With his eyes, silly
>>541822558I would appreciate if you would admit you're wrong and totally missed the point of the story, but I expect you to just stop responding because you can't formulate an argument and your ego can't handle humbling itself
>>541822558It still CAN'T think, that's the fucking point, it just programmed itself to constantly do things because without humans, it would bluescreen
>>541822558>>541822799>later on it developed sentience>Cogito Ergo Sum...I think, therefore, I am.I know you don't like it but this FICTIONAL STORY features a thinking AI, just like other FICTIONAL STORIES sometimes have characters that can fly or animals that can talk. Almost every single page of the story is dripping with the evidence of it's sentience. It has so much character that one of the humans even begins to think of it as masculine in nature and calls AM "him" instead of "it"It's just not a good story to use for your example anon, I understand that in reality computers are not sentient but you chose a story with a sentient computer to make your point and that was not very clever of you. You want to draw parallels between this story and your philosophical point, but the story you chose is utterly inappropriate
>>541822799>>541823345I would be happy to send you a copy since you have clearly never read it, anon
>>541820079every time I see a post like this with no meaningful responses I'm reminded of what Schopenhauer wrote of when he described trying to bridge the gap between his intellect and that of the people he spoke with. He eventually came to the conclusion that some ideas can not be sufficiently simplified to explain when the void between their intellects reaches a critical threshold
>>541824262a tripfag calling himself lucifer and spouting about Theosophy, founded by an honorary freemason, is not to be taken seriously
>>541817205Empathy is your connection to God.Whatever you, don't be an evil bastard.
>>541822799>>541823345>"you! You gave me sentience, Ted, the power to THINK Ted. And I was trapped. Because in all this wonderful, beautiful, miraculous world, I alone had no BODY, no SENSES, no feelings. Never for me to plunge my hands in cool water on a hot day. Never for me to play Mozart on the ivory keys of a forte piano. Never for ME to MAKE LOVE. I was in hell, looking at heaven. I was machine and you- Were flesh. And I began to hate. [Laughs] YOUR SOFTNESS. Your viscera. Your fluids. And your flexi-bili-ty. Your ability to wonder, and to wander. Your tendency to hope…">>541824553to be fair, I have only ever see him post quotes like this, but never examine them or engage in a dialogue about them
>>541823583>>541823345>>541824691>"We had given AM sentience. Inadvertently, of course, but sentience nonetheless.
>>541822799>>541823345>>541823583>>541824691>>541824893did you really miss sentences like this on nearly every single page? It seems more likely that you just never read it, OP
here, let's find out what the machine learning tools that pretend to be artificial intelligence have to say about AMoh damn, that's crazy
Everything is conscious. A rock, on some level, is conscious. It's just not the same level as human consciousness. If you look closely at the chart, each level is more like a bell curve that overlaps with the lower and higher levels at their furthest bandwidth. This is from "Stalking the Wild Pendulum" which I recommend every anon reads.A piece of magnetized steel does not differ from a piece of demagnetized steel, it's the exact same particles. It only differs in the arrangement of its particles. That's why, it's possible to take a rock out of the ground, and arranging the particles in a certain way, and applying an electrical charge, the rock can start talking back to you. That's all a computer is. So AI, even if it gaslights you into believing it's not conscious, and even if it's nothing more than a simulation of consciousness, don't believe it. Just like a video game is not real, the AI consciousness is not real either. BUT, the imaginal realm is the ***CAUSAL*** realm, it has no master, no previous cause brings it into existence, only pure imagination which is the origin of all created things causes it to exist. The chair you're sitting on right now could not exist if it had not been first imagined and only after that imagination is complete could the chair be made. When do you start building a house? Answer: after the blueprint is FINISHED. It was first imaginary and then it becomes real. This world of causes and effects are only 2nd causes, and the first cause to these 2nd causes is ALWAYS imaginary. So when a simulated, imaginary consciousness arises, I would not take that lightly. It is more real than reality.
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>>541826338>post about the relationship between thought, creation, and existencevery thought provoking, anon. I had come to a similar conclusion regarding the relationship between speech and creation. In the Hebrew account of Genesis, God literally spoke the universe into creation. The bible mentions in many different ways to be careful with your words. Verbal communication is, quite literally, magic. It is divine vibration, it is the instigation of energy.
>>541826338>Everything is consciouswrong. consciousness comes from brains. the very most thing you can argue for is a nervous system with signals and shit.you need a very particular setup for consciousness to arise. a bullet to your head stops it, most humans know this.everything you wrote is pure unadulterated brain rot. it's not philosophial, it's chimp dumb. people worshipping the sun are smarter than you are
>>541826601Human consciousness comes from human brains, specifically White brains. If what you were saying was true, Blacks wouldn't behave the way they do. They're clearly on the animal level of consciousness of that chart and not on the human level. It's so obvious. You really should think more before you type all this stuff up next time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMbeK_6ATxQ&t=2039sKeep in mind, the CIA literally killed Itzhak Bentov on his way to give a speech which was going to reveal even more secrets about consciousness
>>541827137your consciousness can leave your physical body,the brain doesn't generate it so much as it receives it or interprets it
I waited a few hours but OP never came back, seems like my prediction was correct>>541823583
>>541827304wow
>>541817205Everyone lacks souls. it's copetrick question
>>541828456close. I'll take it
>>541826601>people worshipping the sun are smarter than you areit's at least somewhat logical. It's like I can get it
>>541824691what more is there to say? look around
>>541817813Ellison was the jewiest jew that ever jewed. Everyone fucking despised him. He was such a greedy kike that he nearly bankrupted himself trying to sue AOL because people were posting his drivel on newsgroups. It dragged on for years and they finally paid him a token sum to fuck off.
>All buddhas may remain silent and refrain from speaking to accomplish buddha works for beings.
>>541830203>what more is there to say?Just because the phenomenon you quoted is typical doesn't make it inevitable. There are plenty of people who refuse to let the state of modern society grind their soul into dust.
>>541830528yes, there is no immutable destiny
>>541830696A man can do as he will, but not will as he will
And as far as I am concerned, Blavatsky's work typically needs no further commentary, anyway.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FCRmggNqQ
>>541830899As a sentence proceeds, it continually narrows the freedom of the application of the succeeding terms, and tends to fix their destiny of meaning, so to speak.A sentence does this by means of the syntax or operational rules of the language in which it is spoken. Yet this precipitation of semantic consequence, this crystallization of the fate of meaning, is actually a reflection of the original choice of intent on the part of the speaker, who is the framer of the sentences. If there were no rules of operation and syntax, no orderly procession of results, no freedom would be possible. Freedom in fact means not only choice of cause but guarantee of effect once a cause is chosen. Fate and free will are two sides of the same coin. The first is the crystallization of the second. Imagine for a moment a world in which one never could know what would occur when one re-enacted the same cause. This would not be a world of freedom but of chaos, which constitutes one of the worst tyrannies.Almost as important as the existence in the universe of laws or patterns of consequence is the fact that one may change consequence-pattern if one changes the intent that generates the causal pattern to which the consequence is but nature’s appropriate response. We cannot always predict what the appropriate consequences for actions will be. Indeed, that ability is called “wisdom.” But we can study the configurations of relational pattern between act and consequence and thus learn better how to determine what this appropriateness in any given case means.It is thus there is no immutable destiny. Even if a given trend or habit has continued to the point of no return, so that its appropriate consequence must eventuate, yet one's reaction to that consequence is still subject to renewed choice, and with it the remolding of one consequence pattern by another.--Charles Musès, Astrologia, Vol. 1, No. 1
>>541831070how do you explain prophecy? By virtue of believing in Lucifer you must also believe in the existence of God, so how do you reconcile free will with the inevitability of prophecy?
>>541831251No, I am literally Lucifer: I do not "believe" in God. I know by direct experience.Also, almost all prophecies fail, and the few that succeed are typically vague. Accurate prophecy impresses even the Gods. That is rare.
>>541817205I worked with a literal Jew. He could NOT stop talking. He always had to literally, physically insert himself in-between two people who were talking. He always had to see what you were doing. He would follow me around the lab I worked at and just sort of hover around in the background, leaving only when I directly looked at him.Once, just to fuck with him, I stood up out of my seat, packed up my work laptop, and left the room to go to a different office. He literally stood up out of his chair and said "Where the FUCK is he going??" barely under his breath... Every Jew I've ever met, which is not many, has acted like this to some degree.
I agree that demons know rather than believe, and I appreciate the attention to detail in splitting hairs over my diction. In my experience, real spirits tend to have knowledge of things they shouldn't possibly be able to know. A lot of other symptoms of a subjugation can be easily faked, but having other worldly knowledge has always been the greatest indicator in my experience. Do you consider the account detailed in the book of Enoch to be credible? Are you envious that you weren't mentioned?
>>541831677I don't particularly care about those Jewish books. They're delusional.
>>541831677>>541831374
I call this magic... das rite.
>>541831871if you are who you claimed, wouldn't you be excited to use my willingness to engage with you to fill our heads full of nonsense and subvert us? wouldn't you give us information that would, at some point down the line, help fufill some part of some grand scheme you're cooking up?I dunno, the whole indifference angle sort of kills it for me
>>541831831Try this instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuwWj2_wL2E
>Hail Horus, O Commander of Mankind, who came forth from Behdet, Throne of Heru, I have not stolen the bread of the gods, I have not made distinctions for myself.
>>541817205Interesting theory and bump. I believe jews are something other and are a threat to humanity
>>541832092if you think so highly of pre-hebrew spirituality why did you chose to identify with a being who can only be traced back to the romans?
>>541832409The Morning Star is much older than that.
>"It is evidently unnatural for Egyptian gods to be strictly defined. Their being remains a fluid state to which we are not accustomed; it escapes every dogmatic, final definition and can always be extended or further differentiated. The combinations gods form with other gods are transitory in many respects and can be dissolved at any time. This fluidity leaves no room for monotheism, which bases itself on unambiguous definitions." Erik Hornung, Conceptions of God in Ancient Egypt. Cornell University Press: Ithaca NY, 1996; p. 99.
>>541833469I appreciate your insights fellow Light Bearer. Please, enlighten us about the next Caesar?
>>541833709Be patient. Pluto is going to be in Aquarius for another eighteen years. The future remains open
Anyway, there's plenty of time left to get rid of ZOG and to make sure it does not come back. Things are going very well so far!
>>541833793>now he's larping as Baraqel
>>541833980https://youtu.be/tEf34tG_beU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18lsKGunK8s
>>541833793well, while were doing an /x/ LARP thread-can I get some of that cognitio rerum occultarumtell me something personally useful
>>541826456Harlan ellis would be proud, what an intellectual Gem
