Communism sucks tooNo people with grand visions or vision at all Capitalism is just greedy merchants and communism is just power hungry peasants
>>541836607what's the alternative? Propose a 3rd system. I dare ya
>>541836607... helping the poor will improve things, for you and for them.
>>541836607Communism is flawed because a communist nation still has to function in the global capitalist market. You're always gonna have to provide value to get energy, metals, chips, etc. in return
>>541836607Capitalism is a derogatory term made up by socialist in the late 1800s, as a slur for anyone who owned "capital." All your economic "isms" are retardation invented by thieving sacks of shit. All there is, is free trade and useless niggers who want to steal from people practicing free trade.
>>541836982>thieving sacks of shit... so where did all your wealth come from? those "useless" slaves, right?
>>541836982... and how is "your wealth" defined? Who defines what belongs to somebody? And what is it that you do for work, by the way? What do you actually do?
>>541837106No, you evil thieving fucking nigger. I understand that the thought of making something of value to you is incomprehensible, because evil like you cannot create, only destroy and take. That is why you automatically assume I stole anything I might have. You're an evil useless thief that can't even conceive of having anything good without taking it from someone else. Just pure fucking destructive evil. That's what you are. In a just world you would be destroyed, like evil should be.
>>541837257so what is it that you actually do, mr. capitalist
do you swing a hammer? or perhaps a sickle? do you sow? do you reap?
>>541837237I built those homes you want to steal. I know what you do though. You only take and destroy. You can't even fathom honest work creating something of value. To you anything of value can only be obtained by thievery, because, again, you're pure fucking evil.
>>541837278What have you ever done, besides be a thieving nigger demon?
>>541837349i don't want to steal homes. i also don't want to enslave people or steal their life's work from them.what capital do you own? a construction business, i imagine. you think socialists are out to get you?
>>541837257You sell out your own people and land for capital gain
>>541837342Lol, you've never done anything productive in your miserable sack of shit life. You will die poor and hated, like you are now.
>>541837383i was in the canadian military. infantry. i also worked construction after i was discharged. my last job was as a wildland firefighter.
>>541836982How do we end Capitalphobia?
>>541837439>>541837461>>>541837383>i was in the canadian military. infantry. i also worked construction after i was discharged. my last job was as a wildland firefighter.
>>541837434>building homes is badLol, fuck you, you retarded worthless shit skin. >>541837461Then, why are you an evil thieving sack of shit that wants to steal from others?
>>541837512And, you're still a thieving nigger?
>>541837535i am not. can you see yourself in the mirror?
all of the value produced by labour has been stolen by the capitalists... despite hundreds of millions of people working their entire lives, with heavy equipment and power tools and construction materials easily available... the working people own nothing.
>>541837557No, socialism is thievery, communism is thievery. You are a theif, even if you are too ignorant to see it. A lot of evil is simply stupidity.
>>541836893A revolving system of different forms of government that changes every 50 to 100 years that completely bar previous people from the former to participate. This way nobody can accumulate majority control through incremental generational power. The rules and system MUST always change. This is literally the ONLY jew proof system of government. Any other system will eventually end with some Jew amassing power and fucking shit. Also, no revolutions or bitching about muh communism or muh capitalism since the government will ultimately change regardless.
>>541837602>>541837592the very concept of "private capital property" is systematic theft from the commons.
>>541836893It's called 3rd position, retard
>>541836893Georgism
>>541836607Capitalism has been on the decline starting in London in the 1800s. What’s needed is a return to debtors prisons to restore the real value and purchasing power to currency.
>>541837592There it is, the thief mind again. You really are evil, you beleive anyone who has anything must have stolen it instead of worked for it. Even in your imagination creating anything of value through hard work is impossible, and the only way to have anything is to take it from someone who did work for it.All commies should be hanged.
the "capital owning class" takes all the value produced by labour as their own, and gives next-to-nothing back to the workers. that is theft on a massive scale... like a vampire, you cannot see yourself in a mirror
>>541837710the workers work, the "owners" do not. the "owners" take from the workers. that is capitalism. that is systematic theft.
>>541837535U mad?
You take Capitalism, Communism, and Socialism. But niggers be nigging so we gotta live out this nigger life otherwise we die a nigger.
>>541837643>private property is theftFucking lmao, I would so enjoy bashing your skull in with a blunt object, but it's a fair consolation knowing that you will live the rest of your life just as poor and pathetic as you are right now. Nothing good will ever come into your life, simply because the evil in you will take from and destroy anything good that you might ever come into contact with.
>>541837882is that a death threat? noted.
>>541837761There's 2 ways to make money in capitalism:You can either be good at doing laboror you can be good at directing labor. Directing is still the most important thing since working all day on a stupid task is just wasting everybody's time. It's better that nothing happens than that an idiot misdirects labor
Better is a bushel which God gives you than five thousand wrongfully gotten. Such gains stay not a day in the storehouse or barn and they are of no use in making beer. Their stay in the storehouse is no more than a moment. When morning comes they have sunk from sight. Better to be poor in the hands of God than a hoarder of riches in the storehouse. Better is bread with a happy heart than riches with much worry.–The Book of Amenomope
>>541837901What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
>>541836607It looks like ideology is only good as the people practising it. looks like no philosophical system can escape human nature/dispositionHmmmmmm.......
Now, the unrestrained man or woman in the temple is like a tree grown in unfertile ground. Its leaves wither quickIy and its unripe fruit falls to the earth. It reaches its end in the lumber yard or it is floated far from its place. And its burial cloth becomes a flame of fire. But the self-mastered man or woman sets him or herself apart. He or she is like a tree grown in fertile ground. It grows green and doubles its yield of fruit. It has its place in the eyes of its owner. Its fruit is sweet, its shade is pleasant and its end is reached in the garden.–The Book of Amenomope
>>541837643>we must destroy society because muh rational ethical theories! LE TRUTH! LE LOGIC ITSELF!You can not coherently answer“Why be good”And all you ever do is serve aristocrats consolidating power
>>541836607We don't even have capitalism. The modern world operates under financialism (Judaism). Real economic activity is secondary to the Jewish financial instruments which dominate all aspects of life.
>>541837934The people who you complain 'are always poor'. These are precisely the people who should not be allowed to have too much money, since they spend it incorrectly. They spend it wastefully. They hurt all of society in how they spend their money, that said, they are still given their due as a result of their labor; so they are allowed to waste everyone's time a little bit.
Do not argue with the contentious, nor provoke them with words. Pause before those who interrupt and give way to those who verbally attack you. Sleep a night before speaking. For the unrestrained person is like a storm which bursts forth like a flame in a pile of straw.–The Book of Amenomope
>>541836893Socialism. Power to the workers.
>>541838190>false religious doctrinePseuds are less than human
>>541836893AI assisted government where every citizen has an ai advocate that fights for their human’s positions in a house like the representatives. The president needs to be voted on by the people but from a pool of scientists and engineers and successful business creators who are required to take a break from their comfy high paying jobs and fix the country’s problems (obviously they would still be paid) rather than letting career politicians slime their way to power.
Let us steer a righteous course so that we may carry the wicked across without becoming like them. Raise them up, give them your hand and then, leave them in the hands of God. Fill them with the food of your kindness that they might be satisfied and repent. Another thing good in the heart of God is that you pause and think before speaking.–The Book of Amenomope
>>541837106Wealth doesn’t come from anywhere retard, that is just some bullshit they worried about in the 1800s that Marx aped, he didn’t make up the labor theory of value it’s just what everyone basically assumed back then. Trying to find the source of value is erroneous in the first place because it doesn’t have an objective source since value is subjective.This is why the market is essential to a functioning society, because while value is subjective, price is objective. Private property owners engaging in trade is an act of mutual sacrifice, it’s the giving up of something to get something that generates market prices. These prices represent the closest approximation of real scarcity of a good as it relates to how humans value it.If you try to bypass the market process and arbitrarily assign value according to the whim of a dictator, a voting committee, a team of experts, or even pure data, the price does not reflect the actual scarcity of the good as humans value it. Understand that scarcity, as it is the flip side of the coin of value, is subjective, and can only be understood in the context of the subjects experiencing it, it simply cannot be dictated and produce any meaningful results. Socialism is incapable of accounting, essentially, any numbers you place on the resources will be meaningless, you just won’t know what to do. It’s often said that money is the root of all evil. It would be more accurate to say it’s the root of all good. Money is literally how you find your way from point A to point B. If I told you to do basically anything, you would think that you could do it, you just have to know where to spend the money. Imagine if everything had a real time price tag attached to it, that you could instantly assess the value of the everything before you in money terms, imagine how organized you would be, imagine how much better at acquiring wealth you would be? Capitalism, hampered as it is, approaches this.
>>541838235So an A.I.-assisted technocracy then?
>>541836607I agree but I will say this isn’t real capitalism. In real capitalism regulation is kept minimal but effective. For example, if you want to start a marijuana growing business in a state like Illinois where it’s legal. You must first pay 5 million dollars in order to obtain a license before you can grow 1 plant. This gatekeeper form of regulation ensures that the only players can be institutions or someone with institutional capital. That’s why marijuana prices are still high even when weed is legal bcuz they made barrier to entry insane. In real capitalism the minute weed was legal we would have seen hundreds of competitors at the same time keeping prices low and maintaining market competition. Instead the rich just cut you off from playing so they take all profits. It’s 100% a scam
>>541839323For example, Thailand has a better more fair form of capitalism than USA. When Thai marijuana was made legal we see thousands of sellers pop up out of nowhere with tons of competition so harsh it drove prices insanely low. In USA you get control over market not free market. We need a revolutionn desu there’s no fixing a rigged game. Thailand is more fair business practices lol
>>541838655>It’s often said that money is the root of all evil. It would be more accurate to say it’s the root of all good.:)Laugh not at the blind, nor make fun of a dwarf, nor interfere with the plans of the lame. Do not harass those who are in the hands of God, nor be fierce of face against them if they err. Surely, humans are clay and straw, and God is the builder. God tears down and builds up daily. God makes a thousand humble as He wills. It is God who makes thousands into overseers when they are in their hour of their life. Blessed are those who reach the West while they are safe in the hands of God.–The Book of Amenomope
>>541836607You're caught in the middle of a war between the people that are and the people that want to punish them for it.
you all need to go back
>muh capitalism It's a Financial choice, Nigger-Faggot OP can't even distinguish the difference between government models and financing
>>541836904Helping poor lazy shitheads (with my $) will do nothing to improve my life. Sucka fat one nigger.
