I regularly repost a thread on /pol/ about the origins of the Ukrainian war, and how Poland was the main sponsor of the EaP project that resulted in Maidan revolution and eventually led to the war we see now. Some anons doubt my analysis, but it is enough to just look at the types and frequency of statements coming out of Polish officials. Poland is the only country that yells about defeating Russia more than Ukraine does.
>>541842556>EaP ProjectQRD?
>>541842556>Poland was the main sponsorIt was mostly pushed by New York Intellectuals, anon.
>>541842556>just look at the types and frequency of statements coming out of Polish officialsYes, they were quick to capitalise on the fall of Ukraine and will maybe "liberate" or "safeguard" its western part, but these opportunists were not jewing Ukrainians into sacrificing themselves for geopolitical games.
>>541842556>Poland is the only country that yells about defeating Russia more than Ukraine does.UK does a lot more - and it provides material support for waging that war, not just rhetoric.Anyway, the whole proxy war was started on the ground by CIA operatives working for many years with the local neo-nazis and Georgian mercenaries.What was Poland doing back then?
>>541843291>>541843375the photos you are posting are from 2014But EaP started in 2009, and it was heavily pushed by Poland+Lithuania.The purpose of EaP was to integrate Ukraine into EU. Maidan and your picrels started only after Ukrainian authorities went to Vilnius (Lithuana summit) to announce they are rejecting EaP integration. That's when the revolution entered its terminal phase.Yes CIA was involved, as much as intelligence agencies from Baltics and Poland were also involved. But the one who had a stake in it was Poland. CIA was there because of "muh End of History" neocon dementia
>>541843461In 2008 NATO said Georgia and Ukraine would eventually join NATO. Putin had been saying that was a red flag since the mid 1990s. NATO knew what they were doing. The same year Georgia got a bloody nose from Russia when they tried to fight their separatists.If you think Poland sets the policy of NATO you need some more education. Poland is merely a tool of NATO and the EU. Just as Georgia and Ukraine are tools. The Russians try to subvert them and we do the same. The Russians want them to gain regional power for themselves and we want them to diminish Russian power. These are proxies, client states, not the main players.
>>541843707you're not revealing anything to me here, because I know about the Bucharest summit and all its consequences.But these things, while connected, aren't the same.NATO's expansion is driven by an entrenched "containment" policy of the US towards USSR, even though USSR isn't there anymore. Once a strategy becomes bureaucraticised, it becomes hard to stop it, because all the old farts sitting in offices refuse to adapt to new realities. It's easier that way.However, the current Ukraine issue that grew out of Maidan - in all senses of the word, is Poland twisting the NATO/EU mechanisms to rebuild the Polish footprint in Eastern Europe.The conflict/fued/badblood between Russia is x5 times older than USA's entire history of existence. And while times change - history repeats. >If we include predecessor states such as Piast Poland, Kievan Rus’, Muscovy, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, the Russian Empire, and the Soviet Union, historians can identify roughly 40 to 42 separate armed conflicts from the 10th century onward. One commonly used compilation counts 42, with approximately 15 Polish/Polish-Lithuanian victories, 17 Russian/Soviet/Rus’ victories, and 10 inconclusive or complicated outcomes.
>>541843461>But EaP started in 2009Oh so a year after Russia bomber Georgia and their pipelines to force Nord Stream in place of Nabucco and White Stream which were to go through Georgia and Black Sea to Europe from Turkmenistan.Russia FAFO.
>>541843970as anon mentioned here: >>541843707declaration of NATO to turn Georgia into a member happened before any "bomberings"
>>541842556russia was gud boy, he dindu nuffin!!!
>>541844022>declaration of NATO to turn Georgia into a memberNATO also declared once they would turn Russia in NATO member state. Shame they didn't bomb themselves then.Anyways I am not even talking about NATO. I am specifically talking about gas pipelines you FSB shill.
>>541843881If Poland instigates an international incident, which aligns perfectly with NATO/EU expansion, I'm supposed to believe that's coincidence? Poland is not in the driver's seat, it's simply amenable to be driven where NATO/EU want it to go.NATO/EU are about "pooling sovereignty", they're globalists. However nationalist a country appears, never forget that. Poland's alignment is not by chance.
