Russia with a full mobilization would be able to finish Ukraine within a month, why haven't they done it yet? is Putin retarded?
>>541844153No amount of troops will help if your logistics can't handle them.
>>541844153Why do something totally like that when you can reduce the capacity of NATO to fight a war against you immediately after the Ukraine collapses.
>>541844153TWO MORE WEEKS KEK
>>541844518russia is using donkeys to bring supplies to ww1 style trenches and you fucks are fantasizing about war with nato. unbelieavableif putin felt he could bomb the uk he rould have already done so, he hasn't because he can't and all he can do is bark like s big dogukraine will lose the dombass eventually but it's gonna take russia far longer to recover from its losses, while nato lost nothing in the process
>>541844153>hey mom, moooooom, I think I figured it out!
>>541844677>russia is using donkeys to bring supplies to ww1 style trenchesyour brain is fried on propagandayou see one or two photos of a donkey, and immediately conclude that its happening in 1,000,000+ other locations on the front.I agree with Andrew Wilson - not everyone should be allowed to vote, especially if their IQ is low.
>>541844153Why has Russia allowed Ukraine to have water, food, electricity, and communications this entire time? Because it's not a war, dumbass. It's more similar to what my country was doing in the middle east for 30 years.
>>541844153Same reason the US didn't roll over Iran with full mobilization: its incredibly costly and political suicide for the leadership.
>>541844763how are they going to prevent those things when theyre being funneled in from western europe
>>541844153They do not have the logistics to support full mobilization, if they did they army would collapse
>>541844763How did that one end again?
>>541844153Because authoritarian states are afraid to lose stability by their nature. They won't touch anything unless absolutely forced to.
>>541844153The same reason why Europe doesn't do full mobilisation and doesn't kick Russia in 3 days.
>>541844861You really think Russia couldn't cut off electricity or supplies to Kiev? Are you fucking stupid or is that just how thick the propaganda is spread over there?
>>541844932you said ukraine implying the whole of ukraine only now are you specifying a city. disingenuous rat.
>>541844518because the point is to get your territory back, not to stick it to NATO
>>541844888Checked and yeah it's dumb. I think slavs just love war.
>>541844932Europeans are crazy. In their crazy mind the USA is losing too. None of their country had a special military operation of their own, they have no skills nor experience to conduct special military operations, they can only talk big, everyone can talk big from a sofa about others.
>>541844970Because the rest of the country is empty. Here, just for you:You really think Russia couldn't cut off electricity or supplies to ALL OF UKRAINE? Are you fucking stupid or is that just how thick the propaganda is spread over there?
>>541845020yes i really think that because it would have already been done. retard.
>>541844932Well, they also said they could take Ukraine in less than 3 days so... Russia says a lot of things, my friend.
>>541844677>russia is using donkeys to bring suppliesIf it works - how's that bad?
>>541844932what you see Russia do is the extent of what Russia can do. They aren't doing more because they can't
>>541845044Alright so you are fucking stupid.>>541845050I don't care what Russia says I'm going by objective military capability.
>>541844153Remember russian mobilization in 1905? Good times.
>>541845105theres a reason nobody takes anything an american says seriously
>>541845141yeah pls do that again I want to see what happens this time
>>541844153>Russia with a full mobilization would be able to finish Ukraine within a monthProbably not and Russian leadership knows that at this point. Remember when taking Ukraine was supposed to be sooooo easy? Yeah, it didn't happen. Nobody knows if full mobilization is the way to make is successful.However more important is Russian leadership distrust of it's people. Remember when some Russian prison bitch with few thousand armed men went on Moscow almost unmolested by anyone? That fact told entire world that nobody in Russia is eager to protect it's leadership. Only reason Russians go to fight in Ukraine is for quick death that will bring some cash it their families - fighting for free to protect Russia's elite class is something entire different. Maybe Russians are natural born slaves, but this slave nation still has history of violent revolutions.
>>541845090The entire Russian Federation military cannot muster the force required to knock out some power plants, power lines, or even roads? Max 1k miles from their own boarder? In a country not protected by NATO forces? Really? That's really what you Eurofags believe?
putin's walking a fine line where he wants to weaken nato but avoid a full blown war, if he straight up starts a full war with nato china would get to sit back and probably never have to enter a kinetic war with the west while funding and supplying both sides
>>541845173Yes. Otherwise, why haven't they done it already? It's year 5 of special operation. What are they waiting for?
>>541845158Likewise. I get why you're programmed the way you are though. If people realized the truth the whole show falls apart.
>>541845173even if it can snatch the men it can't outfit them nor organize the command
>>541845193Ukraine isn't in NATO and occupying it will carry the same consequence as occupying Georgia and Moldova did.A sternly worded email lost in transit as the corrupt EU politicians scramble to exploit the situation for themselves.
>>541844153Because bleeding out NAFO with minimum casualties seems like a much better option.
>>541844512Are you still on that cope, NAFO?>>541844669> RUSSIA IS WINNING TOO SLOWLYYou troons lost and at this point are simply doing damage control.
>>541845310what's the NATO to Russian casualty rate so far
>>541845222 (checked)Because obviously they don't want to kill or even harm civilians. Russia is doing pretty much exactly what we did in the middle east. Your programming is so strong you can't admit it.>>541845287Poland you should know better.
>>541845173>bro just knock out all the power plants, lines and portable power generators in a country with the best anti air system in the world while youre getting pounded in the ass yourself how many years of the war have to pass for you to realise this is it? theres no hidden play anymore
>>541845430they struggled last time with 300 or 500k mobilized, you underestimate how underdeveloped russia is
>>541845337>GERMANY IS WINNING TOO SLOWLYLMAO, retarded poorfag pidorcel can't even afford a VPN anymore duo to his SMO so he has to resort to a memeflag
>>541845468>all the power plants, lines and portable power generatorsSee now THIS is what disingenuous posting like. Good job.>>541845486Let's be real here if Russia wanted to plunge Ukraine into darkness they'd just spam some cruise missiles or maybe send a few ICBMs.
>>541845824>Let's be real here if Russia wanted to plunge Ukraine into darkness they'd just spam some cruise missiles or maybe send a few ICBMs.they've been trying each winter and they can't produce enough missiles for that
>>541845310>minimum casualtiesLol you memeflag jeets are hilarious
>>541845360Highly favorable to Russians.Ukraine is FUNCTIONALLY a NATO country.
>>541848310Yep, casualties are basicly non existent for Russia at this point.Cope harder.
>>541848640I know you're probably just a paid jeet shill who doesn't really care about dead Russians but we get ENDLESS clips of Russian meat waves getting vaporized lol
>>541844153Because war economy is best economy and Putin knows it.
>>541844153>Russia fully mobilizes against Ukraine>NATO fully mobilizes using Russia's full mobilisation as a provocationSee how things escalate. All this has been thought of long ago.
>>541844677>while nato lost nothing >NATO generals screeching since 2023 that the stocks are depleted and armor is gone
>>541849043The west doesn’t have the economy nor societal structure to be in a prolonged conventional war with Russia, China, and NK
>>541844153>just send everyone to attackThis is how third world incels think wars work.
>>541844153there is no need for russia to mobilize, they already have 2.4 mln strong army and it will grow to 2.7 next year due to creating of new type of forcesukraine lost 2 mln dead and incapacitated, so they cant hold fortresses anymore, you can compate loses required to capture buckmutt and konstantinoka or orihiv, they reduced more than 10 timesthere is no need for more people for sieges, instead you need much more firepower artillery, bombs, drones, missiles, new type of hybrid drone-missiles and so on
>>541849226nah just send everyone in just at the beginning of autumn, im sure that will work out fine
If you mobilize your country, your enemies win.
>>541844153It would likely just result in a bottle neck that gets millions killed for little differenceYou need to have a robust logistical chain that can be successfully scaledRussia is struggling to equip even their volunteer forceConscription of that many people would likely just lead to political instability and mutiny
>>541844153Russia is not looking to just defeat Ukraine but to conquer it.Every town being liberated is now an integral part of Russia; they are annexing the land, and they need not only to defeat Ukraine but also to hit them so hard that they will not question Russian rule for the next 3 generations.
>>541850460I feel like the way they're doing it currently does the total oppositeBy failing to even capture the full donbas is 4+ years of warfare with 1 million+ dead/wounded and hundreds of thousands of destroyed vehicles, you're actually just showing weakness and legitimizing Ukrainian resistance
>>541850460ukrainians as political entity will be gone in 2 generations, there are no more historical conditions which could trigger emergence of ukrainians/ reproduction
>>541844998Made me kek. Thanks.>>541845301If that was the case we wouldn't be supporting them so much lol. If Ukraine falls NATO is going in to kick the Russians out.
>>541844153Putin would then repeat the same fate as the tsar in 1905. This war isn't popular in Russia, just tolerated; and only as long as the "normal people" are not dragged by force into the grindr.
>>541849140China inst gonna join the war to save russia.
>>541850585Actually, faggot shill, ukraine has been trying to take back Crimea for 12 years.Hows that going?
>>541851074I mean this just goes to show how desperate zigger shills are, they point this out like its unexpected that ukraine cant just advance hundreds of kilometers into Russian territoryIts honestly just sad
>>541851074And Russia can't even make use of crimea or "le warm water port" anymore thanks to getting in over their head with their chimpout lol
>>541850585Why do people act surprised?Ukraine is a country that was rebuilt after WWII to hold any NATO advance. They spent the last decade preparing for a war with Russia.Ukraine had more real soldiers (not desk operators) than all the EU combined. Why do people act surprised by the fact that they managed to not only slow down but also hold Russia in certain places?Hell, the EU is literally going bankrupt trying to help Ukraine.
For what purpose? What benefit does winning faster afford Russia? It's not like they are gonna get unsanctioned when the war ends.
>>541850724We're supporting them because Mette is gunning for a position in NATO or UN and our tax kroners are used to fuel that transitionWe are what, 3 years down the line from when they planned to restart an artillery factory in Jutland to aid the war effort in Ukraine which was planned to be done by now... They just got a contractor for that factory despite the building already existing, but they used that transition to fuel a lot of datacenter build outs in Jutland too which is why the energy grid got strained.But hey, they promised to build a drone factory last year so I bet your monkey brain already forgot about it. Maybe they'll find some contractor for that 2-3 years down the road when the Ukraine conflict is still ongoing.Danes are sheepThey are going to sell Greenland for almost nothing then prepare to bail ship for other offices before this government term is overSay "Tak Mette. Vi elsker dig!" and bend over mongoloid
>>541851341I agree, the EU is full of weak faggots, its really America Russia needs to watch out forNato is very strong just because of the American economy boosting the defense spendingIf Russia cant really beat Ukraine all that well, it would get utterly raped into the dirt by the US army + the EU
>>541851243>And Russia can't even make use of crimea or "le warm water port" Funny how you faggot shills cant argue without lying. Current port statusGo back to ur /uhg safe space nafo troon
>>541851397I mean having to throw endless meat into the grinder but still getting their refineries and capital regularly droned isn't exactly ideal.Their war economy collapsing is gonna bring it's own issues though.
>>541851544The contrast between the boasting of Russia's online shills for western audiences and the doom and gloom of what actual Russians say is hilarious
>>541851397Russian sanctions are mostly a meme.EU still buys petrol from Russia.EU still buys fucking gas from Russia (fun fact: only 3 of the 4 Nord Stream pipes were blown; the last one never stopped delivering gas to Germany)You can still get "sanctioned brands" in Russia.Companies that announced they will be leaving Russia at the start of the war still operate in Russia (sometimes with a different name).War is a goy problem. Let them deal with the consequences...
>>541844153>is Putin retarded?yes
>>541850724>If Ukraine falls NATO is going in to kick the Russians out.Whoever originally came up with this plan for Ukraine would not ever consider that. The whole point of using a proxy state is that if it goes poorly, you can just deny any involvement and let them take the L. Proxy wars are for when it's too dangerous to do direct war, and that's still true, it's way too dangerous for NATO and Russia to fight. If Ukraine is to lose, then that's something they have to be left to do on their own so that NATO can survive this failure. The Ukrainians have to die in that case but enacting this whole plan means our leadership already decided Ukrainians aren't human and their lives don't matter, otherwise we wouldn't have done this in the first place. Then NATO regroups and tries some other way, the great game goes on without Ukraine.However, the one caveat I'd add is that whoever originally came up with these plans in the 90s was a much higher quality human than the people currently steering the ship, so it is not guaranteed that current NATO/EU leadership fully understands the obvious factors I wrote down in that first paragraph. If they think that Ukraine being brave heroes is something that should actually be believed and not just something you lie to the plebs about, they may do something dumb like trying to rescue their proxy; again despite the fact that you use a proxy specifically because they are easy to abandon.
