We can't let China win the AI war
>>541845056I feel guilty because I design build a few of these a year, but all my neighbors see my "No Data Center" yard sign for the one planned a few miles away. I mean I don't want to live in earshot of it.
>>541845254Are they under paying you? I would at the very least expect them to pay you will enough not to be near the fucking potential datacenter site.
>WE CANT LET CHINA WIN THE AI WAR -Trump>I'm allowing sale of AI chips to china and taking a 25% cut -Trump
>>541845056Win what?
>>541845056Why? So we can be like China?
>>541845056why not? I mean AI is not what they said is going to be. It reached maturity and it's already commoditized. It will improve at ever smaller increments.With luck they will stop losing money with it, it will require tons of optimization before they break even. Then the likely path is similar to how GPU improves over time. Graphics have really gone better, but honestly every improvement feels less meaningful, because improving from 96% to 96.5% is far more difficult than improving from 55% to 75%. so to speak.
>>541845056This is unironically Chinese propaganda and its hilarious to see libertarians peddling it. Libertarians are against private data centers now? Really?So here's the skinny. America is obviously going to have data centers than China because America serves the entire world where China has a closed off internet for just China.A datacenter is a broad term. Not all data centers are running AI. Could be just for cloud storage. You need to narrow it down.
Bro, China is winning the biotech war, the robotics war, the missile tech war, and on and on. THESE KIKES have to drop DEI and jeets if they want to win at science and tech, and they had to do it yesterday. They ARE NOT WILLING to do this. This tells us that "the AI race" has NOTHING TO DO WITH COMBATING CHINA and everything to do with COMBATING US.
>>54184538350 acres small farm, peace and quiet, remote work. But at night I can hear the train that's 4 miles away and this data center is gonna be 100dB around the clock and probably audible. But it definitely means I'll be selling while people are still in the denial phase that they can actually stop it.
>>541845696>THESE KIKES have to drop DEI and jeetsgood luck with that
>>541845445Trump's capitulation to China is complete, he tried his bully routine on him, but Xi, like Putin lives on a knifes edge of deadly political control and considers Trump a buzzing annoyance.All Xi needed to do is put real economic pressure on the US, the kind that makes "Line go Down", and Trump folded his big Uno hand.There's so much corporate money thrown into AI that there's literally nothing Trump can do; they are rapidly paying off a majority in Congress and Senate to greenlight their money-machine, local governments that complain get paid off too. Just like Trump cannot dictate to the domestic oil industry.Everyone knows that the mid-terms are the end of him, he may as well start loading his gift jumbo with State Secrets and start moving financial assets to the Argentinian/Israeli bank of his choosing for a quick escape.
>>541845696>Bro, China is winning the biotech war, the robotics war, the missile tech war, and on and on.Maybe. JUST MAYBE, it wasn't smart to throw out the eggheads and bureaucrats and put in the dullards, clowns and science-deniers?Oh but it did own a few thousand demented homosex in dresses tho, so totally worth it.
China wouldn't have ever won anything if American companies hadn't offshored most manufacturing there and taught them how to copy and make everything.They still rely on hacking and espionage to upgrade anything they didn't learn directly from an American company in China.This entire cold war is manufactured to spur competition and enrich the merchants.
>>541845683>Could be just for cloud storage...Or social credit ranking, or some other innocent pursuit. Maybe a sequel to the cats working McDonalds...
>>541845918>DEI wasn't dismantling and hamstringing real science and under the sissy faggot nigger administrationHAHAHAHAHA. FUCK YOU, RETARD!!!
>>541845056Why is it never "We have to invest in infrastructure and have universal healthcare and free education or else China will win" ?
>>541845056>We can't let China win the AI warThen invent a proper AI instead of throwing more compute at a shitty LLM script
>>541846338>sissy faggot nigger administrationRecent events have shown the GOP is still full of faggots, and also drunken jeets, and bleach blonde bimbos that Trump keeps cycling out. But also enormously corrupt buffoons enriching themselves off tariffs.China shocked the planet by simply cycling down it's oil imports and leaning on its alternative energy/reserves, and we have Donnie paying untold millions to shut down alternative energy.Bringing along a few DEI is better than ACTIVELY shutting down science funding, letting go research staff entirely? You propose that Don marking weather maps with a sharpie is superior because it's more macho?Huffing Hesgeth's low IQ bro-farts lately?
>>541846444Right now, there's a furious amount of bridge, road and utility work in my Missouri/Illinois area, and it's all because of Sleepy Joe's BBB bill.The Dems can actually pass Bills that aren't an exciting new gift for oligarchs.C'mon Man. Joe was too old and tired, but he did help, things were improving.
>>541846338This is what has kept the GOP cycling back into office the last 60 years, in a never-ending cycle of "Pass Billionaire Tax Gibs/Unnecessary War Because/Whoops Economic Calamity".The "I hate Niggers" vote. The GOP will never do anything for this ass-clown, will in fact kill his future with a thousand thousand cuts, but as long as they seem to be the party for "I Hate Niggers", they'll always have a shot for the next cycle of bullshit.
>>541846533>>541846683Nope, DEI söyence is not good enough to compete with the unadulterated, pure meritocracy of the ascending hegemon. Your ploy to pass the buck with directionbrained retardation is misguided, at best. The point here is that there is no solution to the jewish sabotage of our civilization via engaging in partisan flip-flopping conveniently provided to us by our genocidal nemesis. They were fucking it up under Obama, and Bush before him, and Clinton before him, and all of their associated jews and jew butthole-tonguing shabbos goys too. All this to say that cries of "we must do xyz to compete with China in some strategic field of science" are laughably dishonest, completely non-factual manipulations whose only motives are of the ulterior kind.
How do you respond without getting mad?
>>541847197He's only saying what the rest of them have very obviously been thinking for well over 10 years.
>>541845056why are you comparing the usa to a bunch of small countries
>>541845683>America serves the entire worldNot for long. As Europe is looking to decouple from US big tech, which whole world will the US serve? South America? Australia? India?
>>541847254The comparison is for countries with data centers
>>541845865That's pretty entertaining, for an entire industry that has never turned a profit.
what would happen if we let them?
Just like supposed us military superiority? All these decades of spending and this admin can even win a minor conflict, we are out of oil reserves, out of missile reserves... Where did all the money go? Trillions of dollars siphoned from the people... Oh well you'll do nothing about it anyways.
>>541845056that's how stupid you jews are>war on drugs>war on terrorwhen the hell did america start a "war on china"
>>541847099Based anon nailing those kikes to the wall.
>>541847328As everyone knows.. the country with best AI will rule in everything from military capability to economic output.It's the future, everything will use AI and whoever doesn't use it will fall behind!
>>541847380They should remember that "war on [other country]" isn't just a cute way to say they're going to violate our rights in the name of some indeterminate goal.
>>541845056Everyone in North America is still largely blind to the situation. Palantir was supposed to be sold to several countries by now (allies etc.) and they all refused. Burgers need to accept that they made a poor investment, the sooner the better for them. For us, it's not as big a deal thankfully.
>Utah votes out 3 politician that backed Kevin O'Leary's data super center
>>541847197Is the world better than 30 years ago?
>>541847428How come the US is failing at both though?
>>541847197He misspelt ruin
>>541847601Palantir is the biggest 'bull case' because it doesn't require US infrastructure to use. The objections to it are more fundamental than the new ones regarding other firms (will the US just shut down our compute if we start outcompeting the US too hard using the compute?) The fundamental objection is very difficult to get around as it is simply: What does this do for me? How good are the results? Why do I want this?
>>541847099> All this to say that cries of "we must do xyz to compete with China in some strategic field of science" are laughably dishonest, completely non-factual manipulations whose only motives are of the ulterior kind.Based and truthpilled. None of it is to be believed at all
>>541847695America is largely stuck in the Past, they are looking for a way to repeat the oil dynamic with new technology. But it's not oil. And even if it were more important than oil, it's still not oil. It's a completely different resource (if you believe it to be one.)Furthermore: Even if compute was exactly like oil, the US track record with oil is quite bad. Allies being sanctioned when outcompeting America etc. Random enemy state being created next to you, random assassinations, regime change attempts or successes...so many people would rather avoid this being repeated.
>>541845696This is the case. It’s already over. We’re not even competing with the chinks
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>>541847781Sadly, much of the American 'right' and the European 'right' have tied themselves to this strategy because despite all their talk of 'futurism' and so on, they want to live in precisely the world they know and feel comfortable in.The left, at the least, might akshually accomplish this end more competently...just by lying and pretending to be 'moral actors.' But they are too stupid to solve the fundamental problems here also. And they also have a terrible flock that will continue to stretch the limits of corruption outwards (which yes, does scale much higher than centralized corruption.)
>>541847275Europe's plan for Digital Sovereignty is to import more jeets than the US does. That's not sovereignty, it's out retarding idiots who are busy destroying themselves so Europe can destroy itself faster.
>>541845056When electricity was first invented people were afraid to touch light switches? There are even reports of people afraid to sleep in rooms with outlets because the electricity might "leak out" of the outlet. LMAO! What a bunch of dumbasses Anyway grandma, the AI isn't going to leak out of the datacenters and eat you
>>541845683Yanks have nearly 50x data centres per capita than China. Chinks seem to be doing fine running their social credit and AI systems on less, something doesn't add up
Rest of developed world has roughly half per capita. Still considerably more than the chinks, so yanks making up the gap doesn't add up
Amerishart are building data centers to prop up the gdp. It's just a bubble and pretending to have an economy.
>builds 5000 of something>Everyone only uses 5 of them>WE NEED MOAR
>>541847815they've given up they just want the tools to keep the masses down so they can maintain their quality of life by feeding on them while China run laps around them, kinda like in Russia with the few living like euros and mutts in Moscow and Petersburg while the masses are in squalor
>>541848858Aye, like the chinese unoccupied developments
>>541848141>When electricity was first invented people were afraid to touch light switches? There are even reports of people afraid to sleep in rooms with outlets because the electricity might "leak out" of the outlet. LMAO! What a bunch of dumbassesConsidering there were no safety fuses and Edison was showing everyone electric chair and telling them that electricity will kill them - they were all right to be afraid of unknown.
