Why do people think it's third world tier?>muh povertyIt's as wealthy as Portugal or New Zealand. Much of its cities and infrastructure are on par with the West. >muh drugsAs if the USA isn't infested with addiction.>muh PutinSaved the Russian economy in the 2000s. >muh MuslimsAre mostly indigenous.It's impressive how much of a shithole it ISN'T, considering it was communist for 70 years and completely collapsed in the 90s.
>>541846008It’s second world doe.
>>541846008> >muh Putin> Saved the Russian economy in the 2000s.Define saved.
>>541846009First/Second/Third World don't mean what they used to. If we use the modern definition of development then countries like China and most of Latin America are second world.
This propaganda is thirdie as fuck. If it works on a decent chunk of Russians, it's an extremely thirdie-minded country. NEETs in dying villages here receive more bux than the average Muscovite makes by the way.
>>541846011No, they still mean what they always have, you're just an uneducated retard.
>>541846010Maybe this'll help you out
People that love Russia dont live in it curios
>>541846008>Saved the Russian economy in the 2000s.And then ruined multiple times.>Are mostly indigenous.Migrants still exist.
>>541846013> you're just an uneducated retardI'm lost for words. The call is coming form inside the house, pal.
>>541846008They are actually wealthier than many countries (much richer and with better living standards than france, UK, canada).And they also gave cheap gas, electricity, no housing crisisband good wages.The west if just projecting as western europe is just giant gerontocratic shithole
>>541846015Imagine shitting on Russia from Romania of all places lmfao. You're the same
>>541846014> oil price $100+ per barrel
>>541846016At the end of the day you're just not going to become an economic powerhouse without the demographics. 35 years of below replacement birthrates. Your current spot is as good as it's going to get unless you decide to start breeding.
>>541846012Moscow has a NOMINAL GDP per capita of over 30k USD.
>>541846021You're really retarded if you think so.
>>541846023Okay then, stay childless. Enjoy irrelevancy.
>>541846022Moscow isn’t Russia. It’s a city state leeching off of Russia proper. Go to a representative city like Voronezh or Abakan (they’re all the same) and it’s nothing like Moscow.
>>541846021> 35 years of below replacement birthratesWrong, since mid 1960s.
>>541846025That's like saying you should go to West Virginia or St. Louis to judge the USA
>>541846018Maybe in Moscow and Pidorburg
>>541846025Both cities are mich wealthier than average provincial western town
>>541846027And even so, Voronezh looks a billion times nicer than any US city I've been to. We have Baltimore. Fucking Baltimore. https://youtu.be/t3eP-nKpWQs
>I will shit on my country to raise russian izzatCuckmaxxin
>>541846027You are dumbfuck retarded for making such an analogy. Russia is gigacentralized while America isn’t. Everything in Russia revolves around Moscow. All the money is in Moscow. All the oligarchs (the ones who haven’t left) are in Moscow. All the sizeable service economy is in Moscow. Without Moscow Russia’s economy is Congo tier resource extraction.
>>541846022Are you Russian? It's perfectly alright to note to yourself that most people around you growing up were idiots instead of copying them. Many Russians seem to have serious problems with independent thinking. If you need a cope, just say that the leadership sucks and focus on cultural stuff, etc.
>>541846032A tenth of the country lives in Moscow. I fail to see how that means Russia is a shithole.
>>541846029I thought your previous post was pure sarcasm, lol.
>>541846033No, I'm American. >the leadership sucksAs opposed to Western leadership? German leadership, which destroyed its nuclear power for no reason? Yookay or Canadian or Australian leadership, which pressed delete on their country by importing a bajillion immigrants in 5 years? American leadership? Have you seen our politics?
>>541846034Yes, a tenth of the country lives in a rich enclave while the rest are wallowing in shit. So going “look at these mansions in Rublevka goys ruzzia is rich” is retarded cherrypicking.
>the russian here arguing in good faith while the fsb vpns are shitting on him for not agreeing that Russia is an utopiaComedy gold
>>541846038That's all I can do. And there are two of us.But yeah, if it's not a bot thread, I don't know what is. This level of ignorance is something else.
>>541846036Congrats on the citizenship. You might be the biggest useful idiot ever, but they're relatively rare compared to shills.
>>541846037I play a lot of GeoGuessr and the worst areas in Russia are no worse than the worst areas in the USA. Most of smaller regions seem clean if a bit depressing and with archaic infrastructure. You have to understand how much squalor there is in the USA, anon. Germany is headed that direction as well.
>>541846039I shall stop russian izzat posting for one week out of respect
>>541846038Nobody's saying Russia is a utopia, but it's no worse than Romania lmfao. What's that about glass houses?
>>541846042Ukraine is a Kyrgyzstan tier shithole. Significantly less developed than Russia.
>>541846035No, any Russian city is better than 90% of western places. Is mere truth.
they aren't sending their best these days
>>541846038Noone says Russia is utopia. We just say western propaganda of painting Russia as third world is retarded especially since Russia is doing better than most of the west.Also go back mykola
>>541846008By the end of the Yeltsin era, Russia's economic indicators had begun to improve.
>>541846048>>541846044Why post the same thing with two flags
>>541846047Don't you have a toilet to clean?
>>541846048Go back home Ivan. Where purchasing power goes down month by month, prices slowly keep growing, the market is in shit, many small business just shut down, no petrol, no ability to buy a car.
>>541846051there is a reason you are hiding behind a foreign flag, HIVan
>>541846050>Russia GDP per capita PPP: 52,000$>Romania GDP per capita PPP: 50,000$It's always the insecure ones. I know my country is richer than Russia. I don't have to shit on them to will it into existence.
>vpn hivan can't stop himself from seething instantly at the sight of Polish flaglmao
>>541846054>poor pipo pointsnow show nominal
>>541846053I'm ashamed to have Polish ancestry
>>541846052Am not Russia. Look at my flag, I am westerner. I am just baffled by the amount of russophobia and anti russian propaganda in the west
>>541846052And don't forget that 2/3 of the internet is blocked here and there's literally new propaganda classes for children.Any opposing thought is eradicated, any opposition is imprisoned or killed.
>>541846041Rural Russia consistently looks like misery and despair from what I've seen on Street View. Some cities manage to look normal in parts. Dunno if the absolute worst locations in two countries is the best comparison.
>>541846056Do you genuinely think that US DOLLARS are a good way to measure the economy of an American enemy with heavy sanctions? Hating PPP is incomprehensible, there are still rich and poor countries when you sort by PPP.
>>541846058>I am just baffled by the amount of russophobia and anti russian propaganda in the westI agree that sometimes it's getting out of hand. But praising this shit in which we live, there's literally no point.I would understand if it was 2018.
>>541846060It's a mixed bag. Some rural towns and highways are just as nice as the west and some are pretty rough. I remember one time I thought Russia was France, one time I thought it was Finland. We have a lot of shitholes in our country. I doubt anywhere in Russia is as bad as LA or South Chicago.
>>541846061bro copypasting posts straight out of RT manual at this pointyes, the US dollar is the world reserve currency. Every Russia knows this and any meaningful deals are done in dollars. When an oligarch buys a mansion or a bugatteh they appraise the value in dollars, never rubles. It’s a very volatile currency.
>>541846051>TSAAAAAR we are rich now unlike these poles tsaaaaaaaaaaarexplain why do russian women prostitute themselves so much?
>>541846062People are complaining everywhere. Who's happy? Maybe Kazakhstan and Israel?
>>541846066Go die in war for oligarchs, happy Russian man.
>>541846058very subtle tsaar
>>541846067Glad I'm not Russian or Ukrainian so I don't have to die in a war.
>>541846065Is Luxembourg poor by your logic?
>>224389511Not Russian, pshek take your meds>>541846066Kazakhstan is a fake country made by western stooges to steal Russian land. Why would they be happy?
>>541846064>It’s a very volatile currency.And? Oligarchs using USD doesn't mean PPP is a bad way to measure the economy. It just means we're the world hegemon. Which we are.
>>541846070Is poorer than most places in Russia, yes.
>>541846071>Why would they be happy?Only developed country with high birthrates. Why wouldn't they be happy?
>>541846072>And?Idk bro ask the argie and the turks.
>>541846073Alright now THAT is some grade A cope. I was with you until this post lol
>>541846074Because it is a fake country created by westerners to oppress Russian populations and strip them off their land?
>>541846063Tends to be more even here. Can be difficult to tell if you're in a richfag Stockholm area or a dying mill town just from Street View, especially as dying mill towns often have old mansions and stuff too.
>>541846077Maybe the Russians should've had more children if they didn't want their land taken away? They were 50% of the population 50 years ago but the Kazakhs just had more kids.
>>541846076Not really, luxembourg is poor. The data is just heavily skewed by EU money and investment funds. Its full of homeless, drug addicts and most of the population cannot afford a flat and even less countryside home.Meanwhile Russia has no such problem and anyone can have a flat and dacha
>>541846075What are you implying? That Russia submit to the US like Argentina did?
>>541846081monke need work brain, but brain work hard :(monke praize ruzzia instead
>>541846079More like western back kazakh puppet gov started genociding local Russian population with help of nato troops
>>541846080I mean that's all true in the US and we're significantly wealthier than other countries. You just need to live with your parents and invest your wages and your net worth will skyrocket. Then travel overseas and you'll see what American wealth buys you. Our median house to income ratio is better than almost all of the world, and our expenditure on food is likewise low.
>>541846083That’s not at all what happened and you must be trolling. Nazarbayev used to be the general secretary of Kazakh SSR before becoming president and KazSSR was the last to leave the USSR.t. born and raised in Kazakhstan
>>541846082No genuinely anon, what are you proposing Russia does to make you happy?
>>541846008Russia suffers from massive wealth inequality, sure Moscow and St. Petersburg seem somewhat developed, but most of the country is not. True that the same can be said for most western countries, but not nearly to the same extent, the infrastructure and quality of life in most of Russia is just that poor. And first worldness of a cunt is always measured by its least developed region
>>541846085Are you a Volga German or a self hating Russian or what?
>>541846087>And first worldness of a cunt is always measured by its least developed regionI guess we're a third world shithole then (we are it fucking sucks here).
>>541846085Kaz voted against leaving. But west forced them to, to dismember Russia. Look up union referendum
>>541846008>Much of its cities and infrastructure are on par with the West.Have you ever opened Google street view?
>>541846008Image. Jews have been shitting on Russians and Slavs in general for the last 100 years (since the film has existed) and images easily enter the subconscious of the masses. For example, I remember the period before Croatia (again) became a tourist country. Dinamo played vs Manchester in Zagreb. English fans gave statements to Croatian media and said they found it strange that everything was clean, tidy and nice. If you are a Slav they probably expect you to be a primitive, drunken half-gypsy who lives in communist buildings, that it is always fog, mud and garbage.
>>541846091You need to come to an American city man
>>541846089No you're not, the worst regions of the US still have a first world infrastructure and economic stability
>>541846091>jewgle>western browser which posts shoppef 2009 pictureLook on yandex street view and you notice Russian steets are cleaner and look wealthier
>>224389755He forgot to take his vpn off
>>541846095Most of the Russian footage is from like 2020 and looks closer to real life because they don't oversaturate their images like Yandex where everything looks fake as fuck
>>541846014
>>541846096This flag posts sometimes in the thread, but judging by his posts and writing he's not Russian at all.
>>541846099Interesting
>>541846094I imagine you've never been to an American city so you just don't understand how bad it is here. Yes, lots of Russia is economically depressed and falling apart, but there's no O Block in Russia. Just Tuvans killing their friends I guess.
>>541846008>mostly indigenouswhat the fuck is this supposed to convey?
>>541846102Muslim on Russia is tatar or bashkir native. Not majority muslim immigrant like france or germany which now look like somalia
>>541846102Russia has always been islamic so its trad. The core of russian strategy is to treat it's language as a race so anyone that knows russian is russian in the communist sense. And if you stop someone from speaking russian that's literal genocide using the same logic Very globohomo muttlike logic if you look closely
>>541846104Your country is 10% gypsy lmao
>>541846042Some of them end up spamming about immigration for propaganda purposes while being absolute shit-tier immigrants. Somalis tend to cause more localized chaos at least. They don't try to overturn your government.
>>541846105>10%
>>541846092I had a Bosnian muslim friend who was asked for directions by some Englishmen. He says something and mentions a roundabout. The wife of the guy nudges him and says "Look honey, he knows what a roundabout is".
>>541846103how is this supposed to be better? A literal empire in 21st century
>>541846106The worst most anti American Russian I've ever met IRL was a wigger and a Putin hater. Take of that what you will.
>>541846103You literally have millions of Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kyrgyz
>>541846111All pure russians saar
>>541846110Like most Russian Putin haters, he probably thinks he's too soft / not doctatorey enough
>>541846111You have millions of Turks and Syrians and Africans
>>541846113No lol he was a libtard whining about how much of a victim he was
>>541846114I know.
>>541846113kekI would say 60-80% hate our leader and not for being too soft.
>>541846117You live in a bubble
why do retarded burgers worship that shithole
>>541846118Good narrative correction, comrade!
>>541846119Aren't you supposed to be neutral?
>>541846121nigger
>>541846120Prove me wrong though. How many TZD Russians have you seen on the internet throughout the last 4-5 years? They're almost completely non-existent.
>>541846122Are you talking about the captain of your soccer team?
>>541846118No, you.
>>541846119russia is baZed
>>541846109Russia is not an empire. It fights against colonialism and western imperialist policies. Meanwhile places like france, uk, US and denmark still have colonies
>>541846127Ivan detected
>>541846111Not milion all of them together maybe 500k and most temporary worker. Meanwhile france population is 60% nigger/araba nd germany is 40% muslim
>>541846128>>541846127No need to talk to yourself
>>541846128Not Russian>>541846111Also kyrgyz is not country. Is part of Russia
>>541846123Internal improvement of the country and wishing your armed forces to lose a war are two entirely separate things.
>>541846129VPN off
>>54184613270-80% of Russians consistently support the war since the beginning
>>541846133Nothing burger numbers while 50% of germans under the age of 30 are of migrant background lol
>>541846135It's 40% of which 20% are non-European, similar percentage as Russia
>>541846108I was on a camping trip in America and among the guys there I realized that they were looking at me strangely because I knew some things about American pop culture. After a while they opened up and then one of them told me that in school they are taught that only England, Germany and France have TV, washing machines and the like, Italy and Spain are already questionable. They might have them. Everyone else is probably on the level of Biafra. Croatia has drastically improved its image since then thanks to Game of Thrones and various Hollywood movies. Croatia is in the heart of Europe after all, so at least Europeans know the real situation. I think that of the Slavic countries, only Croatia and the Czech Republic/ Prague, have a positive image. They always portray everything else as extreme shitholes and that always makes me angry.
>>541846134Well I am not really arguing for Russia's case. But wishing your armed forces to be defeated is childish. Looking at Russian culture and mentality, they have to make peace with the fact that they simply live in an autocracy. Communism got them in the wrong moment and torpedoed all other hopes. Russia is pretty likely to remain multiculti autocratic empire. Just like how France, UK and Germany will be mixed countries.
>>541846136>similar percentage as RussiaLol, you wish tranny>>541846134One has to be mentally retarded, or a terrorist to oppose an anti terrorist operation
>>541846135Holy kek
>>541846134Only foreign agent and traitors are against SMO>>541846133This was 2022 now is lower.
>>541846134You're wrong.
>>541846136Still means germans are going to be a minority in their own land in the very near future while you bitch about Russians online
>>541846138The point is they support the invasion in the first place. I get that it's hard to root your country's military defeat even if you disagree with the invasion. But using the same logic, anti-war Germans under Hitler were traitors and therefore morally wrong too
>>541846144>Blue line falling Fake as fuck chart ngl
>>541846008hiv_rates.pngand a great leader former KGB agent sitting on the throne for 25 years starting wars is not a good thing. where are you actually from if i may ask
>>541846142Are the anti-Putin, anti-war Russians in the room with us right now? I always hear rumors of their existence, but I never actually see them.
>>541846147Because you live in the bubble. Just go to some local tg news group/channel of some city and see what people write.Just look how much support Yabloko got, which spoke to end the war, but they got delisted from the elections with meaningless reasons.
>>541846146HIV rates are like 1.5% and in the West they're like 0.7%. Not a huge difference. Considering the state of Russia in the 90s it could be worse.
>>541846148Stop lying pidorashka, no one takes those clowns seriously except complete retards
>>54184613470%-80% "support" the armed forces but that's because Putin pidorashkas cant stop swallowing his cum, if Putin pulled back 70%-80% would support the move Russia is a nation of cattle, the dissenters with russian flags actually break the mold
>>541846144>get a call>"uhm, hello. It's BЦИOM governmental service about gathering statistics and asking of people's thoughts. We have a survey..."Surely the people are being honest in these surveys....
>>541846148>Local TG groups Those are textbook examples for bubbles
>>541846148Yabloko is a western destabilization effort. Most of the people behind it were litteral foreign agents. Good riddance
>>541846150Yes, the Yabloko is retarded. And it would get 0 support if not their "to end the war" words. The most of people tired of it and they wanted to support even Yabloko, because they're tired.
>>541846137>I think that of the Slavic countries, only Croatia and the Czech Republic/ Prague, have a positive image. They always portray everything else as extreme shitholesThey're "shitholes" in a sense (though superior to majority of countries outside of Europe) but not extreme shitholes. Some of the reputation of some Slavic countries is sadly quite well deserved. I am a Serbian nationalist but I include us in those. Being perfectly honest.However, that we don't have ACs, washing machines and can't fullfill basic needs - bullshit as we both know. >>541846144>But using the same logic, anti-war Germans under Hitler were traitors and therefore morally wrong tooOf course they weren't. The collective decided to march on Stalingrad, so you march on Stalingrad. Hitler losing means your country gets raped and destroyed. Is it necessarily deserved? I don't answer such questions. Germans fought for their people, Germans failed and experienced the consequences of failure.I say this as someone who is not a national socialist and whose ancestors died at the hands of the Germans, but I don't expect you to be a cuck just because you're an enemy to me.People are often to quick dismiss Russians in many regards, and I do not simp for them, but you should open a history book. They did not fight for Stalin. Your soldiers did not fight for Hitler. There are bigger forces at work than individual men at the helm. Russians experienced a lot of death and suffering for Russia, not for Stalin. If people fight for their nation, it gets to experience tomorrow (whether better or worse tomorrow, that depends on cumulative historical factors and entropy).Russians are scared of instability and change, and you cannot really blame them. Their viewpoint is quite rational. In the worst times, in the worst crisis, Russians have failed to make a meaningful change and the things got worse. You cannot simply make choices that are not reflective of your history and go directly against it.
>>541846153That's common citizens who live and share the news. Nowadays TG here is like a facebook in the US.
>250 eur a month in a commieblock is New Zaeland quality of life Kekw
>>541846153And your bubble consists of this website and western and ru media, I assume.Wow, sheesh.
>>541846147>anti-Putin, anti-war RussiansBeing overtly ant-war in Russia is a life sentenceLook up what happens to anti-war protestors in Russia, Putin gets such a severe clitty leak even a child drawing a "war bad" painting in school is grounds for sending her dad to jailhttps://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/03/29/escaping-putin-s-russia-how-a-father-and-daughter-persecuted-for-a-drawing-fled-to-france_6751908_4.html
>>541846144Nothing wrong with that. Only western puppets and fascists would be against anti-terrorism operation.
Generally, I have much higher opinion of someone going to war for his people, or passively supprting his collective than people living in some fantasy world, the ideologues that would be against their country because they expect change and that any change will be automatically good because the current times are just that horrible.You might think that in my viewpoint, nothing would ever change for the better since the people would not demand it. I don't agree, we are discussing perspective concerning the times of war.Russians are simply more passive people and people that would accept circumstances, this is a blunt generalisation but I've found this to be often true in their mentality. They were not always like this of course as Russians mutinied in 1917. The results of this have been bad however and fear of the government has been part of Russia since then for completely just reasons.Russians understand that they cannot go onto the streets to coup Putin, Russians also understand that voicing their opinion might have consequences so everyone answers questions and polls in support of the government or "I don't care", but most people have an issue with Putin. However, they know that without a collapse of Russian Federation, a change is not possible, Russians simply do not have any real instruments to influence the ruling policy of it's country. None have been put in place. And who normal wishes for a collapse of his country. Only idiots.
>>541846123That "I'm not gonna point out the obvious to waste your time" thing is extremely thirdie-coded too. It's the kind of personality that brings down countries if widespread enough.
>>541846149https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_Russianot sure what motivates you to downplay it
>>541846161>fascists Tsaaaaaaaaar
>>541846160Those were foreign trained agent who were sent to Russia by french to promote western colonialism and sow discord and anti patriotic sentiments. Again nothing wrong with kicking foreign spies out.Maybe france should follow Russias model and stop beign a hotbed for jihadism?
>>541846164>Estimates from 90s numbers by who instead of actual numbersRussia has less hiv aids than poland or belgium per capita
>>541846127Bruh lets see main traits of an empire Centralized authoritarian government. checkLarge multinational state with one dominant nation holding power over the others. checkExpansionist. checkYep it's an actual empire. I bet you, if say western countries leaders start calling it empire instead of federation, russians and Kremlin would take it as a complement
>>541846166I heard the baltics and moldova are stopping russian fifth columnists planted there by Stalin from shitting up the country but now thats not based its genocide o algo
>>541846168>one dominant nation holding power over the othersIf only it was true...
>>541846168Why arent (You) in the frontlines?
>>541846167Stop spreading hiv in serbia sasha
>>541846160>Being overtly ant-war in Russia is a life sentenceI wish it was>>541846168>Expansionist. checkNot really
>>541846161cocи y пyтинa члeн пoкpeпчe ты гpeбaнaя кpeмлepaшкa
>>541846172You're a literal indian hiv pozzed transvestite>>541846174>HиктoХoхoл: члeн пyтинa
>>541846171Change the vpn again
>>224391030it's sasha the most patriotic faggot who sends pro russian shit from his apartment in Belgrade
>>541846170He is right, that minorities are getting uppity, or that Russians are not the main concern of the ruling party doesn't mean you're not an empire. But Russia is located on a flat piece of land without any clear borders outside of RF itself. It's understandable why Russians are afraid of losing their empire. Russia has to be around the size it is currently to maintain any sense of power. There is no real good solution to Russia and let's leave with at that.
What happened in porkaine this time?Let's check the news>Another warehouse burning>Shortages of food>Shootout between gur and sbu>The bunker midget announced attacks on civilian airlinersYeah seems enough to warrant a chimpout
Shills don't realize how hard they suck at sounding like they're from here
>>541846180They gave up pretending and are now back to delusional gloating baiting to get the thread removed because it didnt save their izzat
>>541846168All of thise apply to oinkraine and not Russia>Centralized authoritarian government. Russian leadership and duma are democratically elected and not rigged by western agents like in oinkraine>Large multinational state with one dominant nation holding power over the others. Russia has minorities and is developping them unlike france which genocides its oversea island colonies or denmark forced sterilization program in greenland>Expansionist.Russia has never had colonies or has saught to expand on native land like what wester has done and is still doing. The smo is just response to western expansion on Russian land
>>541846180Russian shills are not intended to capture everyone, only useful idiots
>>541846174Go back xoxol>>541846180Exactly, go back to urine mykola
>unlike france which genocidesI wish. I wish that was true.
You can see how each flag disappears from the discussion as the shill changes vpns btw
>>541846182>denmark forced sterilization program in greenlandWhat a weird thing to call the prevention of incest rape babies
>>541846008>considering it was communist for 70 yearsCommunism is literally what made modern Russia.
>>541846008Portugal, New Zealand and especially the USA are third-world countries. I like Portuguese thoughbeit.
>>541846012> MUH FIATIrrelevant.The only thing relevant is purchasing power.Most Swedes can't afford a house, go back to paying your mortgage, Sven.
>>541846008They have been horrible since 1054. Submit to Rome.Even if Russia isnt as poor as it is made out to be, it is still an authoritarian state full of HIV infected alcoholic rapists. The Russian government acts like one>>541846022I make that much as a groundskeeper cutting grass and picking up trash. 30k is near-poverty
>>541846080Most rural Russians don’t even have indoor plumbing
>>541846182> Russia has never had colonies or has sought to expand on native landMay I remind you of the shikotan, etorofu, habomai, and kunashiri?
>>541846875KEKRead history books.
>>541846008Because they're retarded.
Bashkort here. Local muslims are more like the average western christians. That is, even worse than the Orthodox.
>>541846182>Russia has never had colonies or has saught to expand on native land like what wester has done and is still doing. The smo is just response to western expansion on Russian landThey sold Alaska to the Americans and had to be chased out of Hawaii by the Brits.
>>541846008>It's as wealthy as PortugalYou immediately defeated your own argument
>>541846166Maybe we should stop to ignore the elephant in the roomhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berel_Lazar
>>541846008>It's as wealthy as Portugal or New ZealandHahahaha. The only thing western faggots can do these days is be disingenuous and catty on the internet as Russia and China takes over.
>>541847061I thought your people were more traditional than Tatars in general?
>>541846008>It's as wealthy as Portugal or New Zealand. they planned to level with portugal by 2020 (iirc)but something happened on the way
>>541848459I would say they're more traditional as down to earth. Not as muslim traditional.
>>541848620That's true. I like how the Volga-Ural is indigenously multicultural with an attitude of neighborly acceptance. If anything that is the model society/societies.
>>541846010Why are you gay?
>>541848869Multiculturalism Russia :O Multiculturalism West :( Kek
>>541849129Think about it and hard, you have Chuvash, Tatars, Maris, Udmurts, Bashkirs and Moksha/Erzya. English border the Welsh and Scottish and for historical reasons hate their guts for the large part. Even you Finns don't have an amiable relationship with Sami.
>>541848459What I meant was that Islam is not that important in religion, culture and everyday life. Agree with this >>541848620 anon
>>541846025My ex is from Voronez, was there, walked there, safe as Moscow or Peter, more commie blocks sure but safe in every way.
>>541850202Does the Old Religion (Tengriism) have any influences in Modern Başqort Life or in Outlook?
>>541850733Tengri has zero influence. A specific paganism is present, but it is difficult to define it. Perhaps there is an Indo-European influence in mythology.
>>541851315I believe Bell Beakers may have originated from Bashkortostan since they lent Oak Worship to Pre-Islamic Bashkirs and Insular Celts. Explains the strong R1b presence anyway. I think they were Pre-Indo-European but somehow steppe still.
>>541846008Whatever country I don't like is a third world country
>>541846008>considering it was communist for 70 years and completely collapsed in the 90s.Consideringthey were stealing money from all satelite states and are sitting on biggest resources on earth. How the fuck you end up collapsing economically and now being on level of Poortugal in terms of wealth?
