Sounds like the easiest category to apply the same sentiment towards.>inb4: Azov is Jewish - well, the Palestinians are Semites as well>inb4-2: the Ukes are white - they're not, and if they were that would make you either an anti-white racist or admit that the Israel is a white country; neither of these helps your case
>>541854985They do
>>541855016Maybe in Europe, but not in the US/Canada. Here they seem to diverge on this issue.
>>541855061In my country most leftist parties are on paper pro-military now and in Germany the Greens are definitely more militaristic than the AfD. This all happened after ukraine
>>541855061yeah, all democrats in the US are secretly pro-Russian
>>541855218I think Canada is too far from any conflict zone for people to care at all about foreign policy for practical reasons, beyond ideological ones
>>541854985As a left-wing supporter of both Palestine and Ukraine I know a lot of lefties dont like Ukraine mostly based on vibes. The vast majority of leftists don't have a really informed understanding of the Soviet Union but generally see them as "the good guys" because they generally think anyone fighting the west are good guys, and if they're secular, they like them that much more. Since Ukraine is the pro-western side of the war they dislike them. I think thats genuinely as far as it goes.Tldr: militant ignorant lefties hate that Ukraine is pro-western
It's funny how to leftist communists Ukraine is a Nazi evil state that hates everyone nonwhite and to "right wing" communists Ukraine is a jewish state that hates everyone white. You cant have it both ways. And funny enough actual niggers whine about facing racism when they visit Ukraine so the leftists are right and ukraine is based kek
>>541855361>people who disagree disagree on stuffWOW
>>541855218Does the AfD ever explain how they are going to rebuild their relationship with Russia (if that's their goal) without making painful concessions?Russia would definitely demand concessions out of pure spite, regardless of whether they have the upper hand; otherwise that would make them look weak as they see it, and you can't have that in Russia and remain in charge.
>>541855785I don't really know what Russia wants except more stuff. It's hard to distinguish between Russian and Western propaganda about Russia and actual Russian intentions. I just think they're snowniggers but I guess the AfD thinks they are reasonable if given more land.
>>541854985Because people who follow new sources outside the 5 eyes homosphere understand that the Ukraine is a murderous provacateur, crying out as it strikes.
>>541854985weaponized confusion used for propagandapeople are living the lieazov is fighting for jewish leadership, but they use nazi symbology, something is a lie here and something is truth here, both cannot be true the thing is people have been drugged into apathy /not caring / questioning out of convenience by the whole environmental change shit, its too much for them , they accept what helps them survive, whatever that means for them or how self-contradictory it is.assume they are high on antidepressants/ssris they justify 2+2=3 and are happy doing it because of their mental state, induced by drugs and propaganda,.
>>541854985>Azov is Jewish - well, the Palestinians are Semites as wellthis implies that there are jews that are not semites which means there are jews that can not be target by antisemitism ? how can you be a semite from the levant if your ancestors are from germany france, poland and the ukraine ? >shit happens >don't lie >lie anyways>take responsibility ? >lie more ???shieeeeeeet
>>541855785>without making painful concessions?but how it this going to help us make painful concessions ? as if the money that they sunk into the bottomless pit of corruption called ukraine would not be enough no, what is up is ww3 reparations until 4000AD no probably wont happen, they will rather escalate the war to prevent elections the outcome of this could be russia and china linking up and conquering europe towards the westcoast of portugal after the usa remove themselves from nato (conveniently and totally unplanned in anchorage) and leave euros with a dozen of rusty nukes from frogs and bongs who are already set up for massive civil war with all the imported warzone characters from the desert and jungle war people
Easy Palestine is a victim of western Imperialism.Ukraine is fighting so western Imperialism can continue and kill more Palestinians.
>>541854985it's fifth generation warfare and nascent sixth generation>the left: Ukraine is just like avengers endgame and I like that>the right: Ukraine is jewish and I don't like that>the left: Azov are nazis and I don't like that>the right: Azov are nazis and based even if their government is gaymost people don't remember that Azov was basically a separatist domestic terrorist group fighting the russian separatists in the donbas until Ukraine made them an actual unitWhen it was convenient, Zelenskyy basically hung them out to dry and allowed them to get overrun by Russia in the current war as part of a soft civilian and prisoner exchange agreement and maybe 5% of Azov today is composed of the old Azov guysLeftists don't believe in things because of ideology anymore than rightists do. Consider the US trump supporters who are willing to write off an increasingly numerous number of insults and retarded decisions by trump, like the "well we're not going to deport illegal farm workers because corporations will be very angry, we like them"A very small number of leftists actually believe in an ideology like anarchy or proto-socialism rather than a fashionable set of very liquid political positions, and I would hazard a guess that outside of a general sense of "Well russia is obviously the aggressor and at fault for the whole thing" they're not particularly attached to the conflict because it sidetracks legitimate US issues when it's discussed. The story of Ukraine and why they're here today contains far too much history, political blunder, and betrayal by the US and EU for most people to form an actual useful opinion on.
>>541854985Palestine is fighting for their sovereignty from an oppressive stateDonbas is fighting for their sovereignty from an oppressive stateShrimple as
>>541857335>the outcome of this could be russia and china linking up and conquering europe towards the westcoast of portugalAnd that's why the Krauts aren't entitled to their own political opinions since 1945, kids.
>>541855969> Ukraine is a murderous provacateurSo Palestine deserves everything they got after October 7th, gotcha.
>>541857532>Ukraine is fighting so western Imperialism can continue and kill more PalestiniansHow does "western Imperialism" in Ukraine have anything to do with Palestine thousands of miles away?
>>541858438Retard, Israel is capable of bombing and raping babies because the entirety of EU and the western world are behind it, they finance it, give strategic knowledge, intelligence, airports and resources and spend much money in whitewashing their crimes. Without the west, Israel fucking dies
>>541854985Ukraine, just like Israel, is a project of the American-Jewish empire. Opposing both is consistent.
>>541855326>Since Ukraine is the pro-western side of the war they dislike them. I think thats genuinely as far as it goes.It doesn't need to go much further. Muttistan is the king of the world, and largely evil, thus it's allies are too.
>>541859119So Palestine deserves everything they got after October 7th, since they're the provocateur.Same as Ukraine.Okay.
>>541858001> Donbas is fighting for their sovereignty from an oppressive state> Palestine is fighting for their sovereignty from an oppressive stateNotice how they both use the civilian population as a shield for that.I'm not sure that an oppressive state is that much worse.
>>541861171No, because Palestine isnt being supported by an entire coalition. Ukraine has its own army, and Palestine has been harassed and subdue and killed regularly and systematically for over 50 years while the west that supports Ukraine looks away. Kys.A victorious ukraine means a stronger NATO therefore a stronger America and continuous satanic hegemony.A Palestinian victory is a victory for the good of humanity, but unlikely to happen until iran develops nukes
>>541861322Civilian population is Zelensky's favorite method, look at what is exploding in Kiev.
>>541862153>Civilian population is Zelensky's favorite method, look at what is exploding in Kiev.So HAMAS was right for doing that to Palestinians, gotcha.
>>541862767They never did you dumbass. Hamas isnt even a proper army. Now, imagine comparing sugar and few man made rocket vs entire arsenals and the most advanced military technology the west can give. Comparing shows how much of a retarded liberal cunt you are.
pro palestine person hates jewscountry in question is by jews>oy vey why don't they support it
>>541862074>No, because Palestine isnt being supported by an entire coalition. Having no allies sounds like nobody likes you :(>Ukraine has its own armyAnd the Palestine has HAMAS, ditto.>and Palestine has been harassed and subdue and killed regularly and systematically for over 50 yearsHolodomor was a thing before Palestine ever did their retarded October 7th gig.>while the west that supports Ukraine looks away.Having no allies sounds like nobody likes you :(>Kys.Hoe mad.Good :)
>>541863122>Hamas isnt even a proper armyHey, don't blame me for le Palestine being dogshit at defending their own country!I promise I have nothing to do with that!
>>541863542>>541863418The leaf showing its true golem colors. Russia is winning btw
>>541863622>Russia is winning btw2 more weeks?