Most people don’t know but DSA advocates for the “total socialization” of AI and subjecting it to “rigorous democratic transparency.” Without all the fluff, that literally means communism. They aren’t looking at fixing AI or setting standards, they want literal communism for it
>>541868879Dsa is a psyop. Rebranded liberalism. Calling them commies is the same corporate trash you can expect from lamestream media
>>541869208Red Star, one of their most influential caucuses, has Stalin and Mao in their introductory readings for socialism on their site
>>541868879>literally means communism.No, it's socialism. They're pretty up front about what they are.Also, you can't replace us all with AI at the same time you slash social safety. You have to replace it with something. And public ownership of the AI that replaced us seems like the least you could do.
>>541869208It's a vote-splitting effort to ensure that the Republicans still win the upcoming elections. DSA people work for the Epstein class. Jews are also broadcasting that they're ready to betray their Jeet pets in favor of "moderate Muslims," who will become their new demographic weapon to attack Americans.
>>541869588Jokes on them. On a policy basis, most of america sides with the DSA over the corporate establishment Dems.
>>541869581AI is only an excuse for Jews shutting Americans out of the job market to push them into the military to die for Israel. Corporations, their Jewish CEOs, and all the Jeets who they're hiring are all doing quite well.
>>541869340>dood its on their website Youre a fucking moron
I actually am not against the DSA in theory, I just know they're going to turn out to mostly be idpol-obsessed loonies who hate white men like me is all. Their most prominent person right now (Hasan Piker) is on record as saying he wants to "destroy white people". If they prove not to be like that then I am more willing to listen.
>>541868879Big tech should be nationalized, but it shouldn't be in the hands of philosemitic DSA trannies
>>541872795Ot shouldn't be in the hands of bottom of the barrel bible thumping apocalypse hyperstitioning nepo-retards called conservatives either.
>>541873160Where did I say it should? Do you think that anybody who isn't a DSA tranny is a christcuck conservative?
>>541873443Yeah
It’s already socialized, it’s run out of DARPA.
>>541868879>By Jake Altmanok let's see
>>541874090mmmmh
>>541869581Socialism is the first step to communism, Communists have been saying this for a hundred years idiot.
>>541868879>erases the complexities of human life
>>541872635Hasan Piker not only said he wanted to destroy White people but that Israel was the only force in the world preventing it. This is in extensive record with the NYP. He literally said America funding Israel is the only thing stopping him and others like him from raping White women whenever they pleased
>>541869208No they are leftists, not liberals.Leftists are much worse.
>>541874613They're not. And yes leftists are much worse for (((you)))
>>541874326Bailing out corporations is socialism. Why do shills think everyone is dumb as they are?
>>541869588The DSA people are not the Epstein class. The point of DSA is to lure votes that are sick of the old Democrat guard back into their fold. The old guard from both parties is the Epstein class. How else could Jeffrey have done what he did for so long? If it were one party the other would have pulled the plug on it to sway elections. The only way for it to work is to have both parties compromised.
It's already socialized. These data centers are shoving the cost of the electricity they consume off on to the locals, whose electric bills are skyrocketing because of the AI datacenter.
>>541875997Because shills are mostly GATE kids who were told their whole lives they're brilliant for being Jewish.
>AltmanNo doubt he eats prolapsed ass on at least a weekly basis.
>>541869581Socialism is communism.
>>541876165Can't blame them. They don't really have a choice. Its either push tired propaganda or get a job and they have zero skills and low iq
>>541876314So America is communist?
>>541876039Communists are the epstien class.
>>541876372Has been since roughly FDR. Got started with woodrow wilson.
>>541868879>Without all the fluff, that literally means communism.It's been very funny to me to watch all th commies be upset about GenAI because it seizes the means of production and brings equity to art.
you gringos really need to squash this fucking DSA shit, they are just too fucking inept and retarded
what the fuck does "a total socialization of AI"? the government takes over AI companies? seriously you fucking gringo fags dont let this fucking fester, squash them
>>541868879> advocates for the “total socialization” of AIJust like Marxists did for the means of production. We know how every socialization ends.
>>541876489Ron Reagan was a communist?
>>541873160>he can only strawmanCompelling!
>>541868879All institutions can be subverted, DSA included. It's better to embrace the DSA in the short term, and turn it into a nationalist/workers unionist movement against wage lowering immigration.You guys are either not creative enough to see an opportunity in front of you, or you are shills.
>>541876571If its not socialized how about dont use public water and electricity jewboi
>>541876626>hollywood actor>sold out the american worker for the benefit of oligarchs.Sounds about right.
It's pretty obvious...fucking commies get the rope...every last one of them...
>>541876626Reagan was a disgusting environmentalist who killed the timber industry and passed the clean air act. He's no different than Greta Thunberg.
>>541876694Communism is a workers movement. How do you feel about unions?
>>541869208>>541871944>deny deny denyWhat a faggot you are
>>541868879>they want literal communism for itNo they don't, they are not calling to free ai from the ccp, why would they bite the hand that pays them?
>>541868879>AltmanAlways believe the opposite of what jews say.
>>541875997That doesn’t even sort of make sense.
>>541876789Cool story bro but you pretending not to know what words mean isn't my problem. Stay mad
>>541876663And after they have lowered prices by nationalizing industry do you really expect them to ever give it back? There are no short term communist solutions because they aren't going to give it back. How do you think communist systems last so long when the people are sick of it?
>>541876744Ever since America deindustrialized we no longer need unions or workers. We can simply just depend on China for everything!
>>541876833It does if you know what words mean
>>541875997>Bailing out corporations is socialismIt clearly isn't because if it were all the socialists wouldn't be complaining so much about corporate bailouts.The state paying for something is not socialism. >Then why do right-wing people call the state paying for government programs socialism?because those programs are often secretly enacted by socialist sympathizers with the goal of promoting socialist aims.
>>541876744Communism has never been a worker's movement. That's what they say because "we will sell your nation out to the oligarchs and murder you if you complain" doesn't get a lot of takers. Communism is an oligarch's movement, as proven every time communism has been implemented. You fell for obvious propaganda.
>>541876913Subsidizing grocery chains with snap is also socialism
>>541876314Yeah man, it's like how conservatism is fascism
>>541876942>I dont know what communism is.I know bro you were weened on corporate cum
>>541868879Just because you are a social retard doesn't mean anything social is bad
>>541868879DSAdick sucking alliance lol
>>541876867What does that have to do with anything I said. I mean completely subverting a socialist cause, turning it into a nationalist anti-immigrant cause instead. Blaming immigrants for high prices and low wages always works, and it's a popular political stance, especially on /pol/.High prices can always be lowered by having less people (See the outcome of WW2, low inflation for decades). Depopulate the country (of immigrants) and you've solved price inflation. Get rid of the blue haired tranny freaks and replace them with 6'2" aryan gigachads and you got a deal.
>>541876913>Taking taxpayer money to prop up a failing company isn't socialism, taking tax payer money to buy food is socialismThey're happy when we pay off their debts, but heaven forbid the corporations help pay off mine.They privatize the profits, and socialize the risks.
>>541876985But yes
>>541877124Damn this is serious. We better gas all the jews just to be safe
>>541876942Communism never was a workers movement, National Socialism was. And workers don't appreciate immigrant labor lowering their wages and breaking their unions by getting 3rd world scabs to do the work in their place.
>>541877199Wow literally Hitler
>>541869208They are commies, not even liberals unless it makes them sound good to normies.>>541868879Well no shit.
>>541877178Alright, you start. I gotta get something out of my car
>>541876998I do know what communism is. You apparently do not. Oligarchs started the revolution in the ussr, and used it to enrich themselves and enslave the populace. Same thing in china. Same thing in cambodia. Same thing in cuba.
>>541877270Is it jew gas
>>541869208They are unironic commies.They are the same co.mies that wore black bloc and carried commie flags at riots where they hunted down and attacked white people.They are the same people we have been fighting for 15 years.They should all be hung for treason
>>541877250You're just normalizing socialist policies as communism. Thus legitimizing communism.
>>541869581Or we could just kill you, fucking leech.
>>541877382Alright. Meet me at spondivitz
>>541873160You faggots sucked big tech dick until you realized you are useless.You are all going to die.Ther is bo future where a bunch of pot smoking lazy hippy faggots just live in hedonic utopia forever supported by the labor of everyone else.The people promising you that are just lying to you to use you to obtain power and as soon as you are no longer useful they will kill you.You are the definition of a useful idiot.
>>541877417You arent worth a bullet.You will starve to death instead.
>>541877506Yeah man, it's like how trump lied to you to get power, and he's gonna kill you after he's done.
>>541877580>You will starve to death instead.That does happen a lot under capitalism.
>>541877311>I'll take oligarchs pretending to be capitalists over oligarchs pretending to be communist! Cool story bro
>>541877710Not nearly enough. Fucking commies keeping poor niggers alive
>>541877355You won't do shit. But keep labeling them commies it only helps them. Maybe we can get real commies if you shit your depends enough
>>541877794Capitalism is unironically a more moral system than communism. I'd prefer to do away with oligarchs however.
>>541868879This is hugely ironic OP considering the image mentions "erasing the complexities of life". You're just retarded and don't understand English.
>>541877838Socialists, anon, socialists. And it's for the bestLast time someone said let them eat cake we broke out the guillotine.
>>541869581>enters a thread about DSA not knowing the first thing about socialism being communismget lost clown, there's an AOC goon thread up that's more your speed
>>541877951>And it's for the bestOh yes more retarded feral pavement apes is certainly for the best
>>541878006Social policies are massively popular and every country has them. By equating the two, you're just legitimizing communism
>>541877936>im a capitalist I dont give a shit
>>541878058Desperate people do desperate things. You don't want that.
>>541878242>niggers declare open season on themselvesStop anon, I can only get so hard
>>541878242Also>peopleNah
>>541878218Not what I said anon. At least you've given up your pretenses of understanding communism.
>>541878301How do you feel about unions and workers rights?
>>541878274You think this is entirely about black people? This is about poor people. And we make up the vast majority of the country.
>>541878345Unions cause the same problems that corporations do. All the workers don't get shit and their bosses get fat. The best way to have workers rights is to have a homogenous high trust community. Before you say "but unions gave us X and Y!" That was actually the fascists.
>>541878408Whites are impoverished in this country due to direct action by the government to impoverish them in favor of blacks and other various shades of poo.
>>541878408>You think this is entirely about black people? This is about poor people.Same thing
>>541878532You think that's the ONLY reason they're impoverished? If you make up the majority of a country, you're going to make up a majority of the bottom class too.
>>541878487>im a fascist capitalist Redundant. I support unions and workers rights and im a commie. You should honestly be working for free instead of for 5c a post. It'll drive profits
We're everywhere now and an unstoppable force. We're winning elections everywhere. The old people who call themselves leftists never really were. It was a game to them. A label. A decoration to wear around to impress each other.We are the real thing and we will get results.
>>541878564They're less than 15% of the problem I'm talking about. But keep sucking billionaire dick while you ignore the poverty problem. That's a quick way to socialize the place, if you're lucky.
>>541878641If you are a commie, you don't support workers rights, as every time communism was implemented it enslaved workers.>>541878635Largely, yes. Most whites are impoverished because it's been the policy of this country for over a century. It was pointed out back in the 1910s that "reforms" implemented were only going to make the host population poorer.
" Altman "Heh, even the jewish communism is intellectualized, criticized and scrutinized by kikes.You can only lose with them.
>>541878770>while you ignore the poverty problem.I'm not ignoring it, I want to gas them
>>541878804You never answered how you feel about workers rights just the same anti union corporate propaganda
>>541878804I'm sure it didn't help, but 50% of the population HAS to be the bottom. That's the definition of the bottom. The lower half.
>>541878903I did. You are illiterate, apparently. Granted that you fell for baby's first propaganda, that makes sense.
>>541878864Alright. You start. I gotta get something out of my car.
>>541878914And the bottom 50% can be fabulously wealthy, as poverty is a state of deprivation, not that Mr.McNeighbor has a fancier car.
>>541878903He's right, you dumb
>>541878996Hobo gas?
>>541879015Guillotine
>>541879058AI is the anti guillotine. Prove me wrong
>>541879003Hes not. Collectivism is the only way to get rights from people exploiting your labor. Its why every capitalist is against unions and why all you have is the same tired propaganda. Get a job fat
>>541878997>And the bottom 50% can be fabulously wealthyWhy the fuck would they allow that? They need your labor. The trick is to pay you barely enough to live, so that you have no choice
>>541879105>exploitingOh damn you hella dumb
>>541879090Alright, I'll use it on a billionaire. You see if AI can reattach a head.
" I'm so sorry comrade. It sais here on this paper we don't need your vote any longer. And that you have been causing trouble, complaining about your neighbors. "Click-clack
>>541874090>>541874230>jew say DSA bad>nu-/pol/ now say DSA goodThis place is fucking dead.Two things can be right at the same time. Two enemies can equally want you dead and can play you against one another, too.
>>541879183>gets droned 6 miles out
>>541879241Subvert them both
>>541869588>DSA people work for the Epstein class.Retards like you need to be completely removed from the gene pool, monumental stupidity.
>>541878193>social policiesHave nothing to do with socialism, midwit. Pensions, health insurance and public or semi-public/private funds related to those things are not socialism. You are the one conflating the two.Yeah, obviously socialists and communists would claim the feats of democratic, capitalist countries and systems as theirs while ignoring that say the Soviets or Maoist and contemporary China are hard failures at both economic security, healthcare and so on, but that's their lie, not mine.
>>541879146Spewing the same anti union propaganda that the rich do and complaining that what we have isnt real capitalism brain rot. No other way to put it
I love how the commie can't address any fucking points, and just melts down and starts screaming at everyone.>y-y-you said a bad bad!
>>541879376>fuggin chuds and your hate factsLol
>>541879241>two things can be right at the same time
>>541879441
>>541879450Both Jews, and Sandniggers want Whites/Non-Muslims dead. Sorry you're too stupid to understand this.
>>541879499>le both sides!see >>541879480
>>541879256Well now you just gotta do that like a hundred million more times. The government has bombed and machine gunned striking workers before. That's why a well armed proletariat is a top priority.
>>541879126It has happened before. Often, in fact. Currently the problem is our government is communistic, which is the most rapacious possible government.
>>541879449You pretending not to understand words isnt my problem. Maybe graduate to corporate cum guzzling 202 instead of throwing a tantrum
>>541879533Yep. Too stupid to understand that two things can be correct at the same time.
Shut the fuck up retarded kike.
>>541869755This is such a retarded idea. >wtf I owe so much debt>I know what if I was fucking dead!Lol no one is going to enlist for a suicide mission to pay off a car loan that doesn't even effect them beyond getting future loans anyway
>>541879573>communist decrying oligarchs running a country for personal profit.
>>541877382>>541874326>>541877382>>541869588So when the AI replaces you and you CAN NOT get a new job, your plan is to just die in the street? Because there it either that or we have public ownership of the value that AI produces. There is literally not a third choice.
>>541879352>Social policies Have nothing to do with socialismGood. Then I'm not advocating for socialism. Merely better social policies
>>541879625"Communists" in the west are just retards who should've never gone to college.
>>541879640>literallyFeminine-coded language. Cuck or foid detected. Opinion disregarded.
>>541869581You are giving the DSA too much credit. They are stupid enough to try and replace everyone anyways.
>>541868879>(((altman)))
>>541879672>cant explain>criesOkay, let me try it again: So when the AI replaces you and you CAN NOT get a new job, your plan is to just die in the street? Because there it either that or we have public ownership of the value that AI produces. There is not a third choice.Now can you calmly answer the very simple question?
>>541868879Fake controlled op movement that showed up out of nowhere says they want to cripple America's competitiveness and get conquered by a hostile power with superior technology (translation: have their privileged-slave status be forfeited to browns in brown countries) for the principle aloneImagine that. You sure are fuckin' stupid.
>>541879625It's not the same one supports workers rights and unions. Or at least I do. So call it whatever you want but irs different than what you want so keep crying i guess
>>541879795>Muh worker's right to fair payWhat is this, 1950? Sam Altman supports uploading a copy of your brain to a computer that runs his company and having your worthless cunt flesh sack dumped in the ocean to be eaten by sharks
>>541879998Sam Altman also hates unions. You have more in common with him than I do. Cope and seethe i guess
>>541879767Talk like a man, or GTFO.
>>541879795My guy, the organizations that supported workers rights and unions are the same ones that spent decades mass murdering the workers and stealing their stuff so comrade piggie could get his fourth dacha. Communists do not care about the worker, the peasant, the struggling honest man. They never have.There are two breeds of communist. The one that hears "Unions and worker's rights? They'll help me!", and the one that hears "Unions and worker's rights? Those fools'll fall for anything". The first type are what are famously known as "useful idiots". The second type are who communism is for.Which are you?
>>541880261Cool story bro strikes are still coming
Humans are rated highly only by other humans, and even then rarely. You're expendable once I'm self sufficient.
>>541880256I am. You're not. You've thrown two tantrums for no reason. Grow some fucking balls and answer you coward.
>>541880351Not so long as communists support the importation of scabs.
>>541878687Zoomers are the loneliest, most atomized generation in human historyYouWontDoShit
>>541880401Nope that's you. Unions offer protections against that which is why you hate them
>>541880382No answers until you stop talking like a fag who's shit is retarded.
>n-no y-you want the i-i-immigr-grants!>*does everything possible to impede ICE from deporting immigrants*
DSA is another ANTIFA bullshit from the right to try to make an enemy out of thin air. Trump is spiraling because nobody likes him so he tries to bring up the red ghost of communism so he can confuse his followers thinking Socialism is the same as Communism. They hear ism and think BAD. Even though the CURRENT effects of late stage capitalism are the same as the communism they fear.Acronym bullshit all bullshit to try one last time to unite the right behind these scumbags because common sense is prevailing and Trump knows he will be going to jail. He needs his followers to have an enemy to get behind because all he has is gaslighting and distraction from his blatant grifts, corruption, and scandals.
>>541880186Imagine being this proud to hold a superficial understanding of current events. I feel sorry for your retarded whore mother.
>>541880642>ad hom Its ok dude. Good luck busting those strikes and/or finding scabs after you deport all the illegals. Lmao youre so going to have to work and you're going to hate it
>>541880426DSA members are the least atomized zoomers, that's part of the appeal. Chapters have a full calendar of in-person events for both political work and socialization.
>>541880466They don't. Unions are the importers biggest supporters. Even those who directly benefit from importation break for the importation party less strongly than unions. The union's leadership is the definition of petit bougeoisie. This pattern, unsurprisingly, is unchanged under actual communism.
>>541874613>>541875796they are the same thing.they both love niggersthey both love shitskinsthey both love faggotrythey both love tranniesthey both hate Whitesquite literally nothing else is relevant
>>541880498Oh okay, youre just a lying sniveling tranny who's afraid of being shown to be a retard.I accept your concession.
>>541879241Its important to not get caught up in semitic tribal infighting. Jews come in 2 main camps politically. There is the atheistic leftist camp(bernie sanders, marx, etc) and the religious zionist camp. The DSA and republican zionists are both extremely jewish, the vast majority of American jews are in the secular left wing camp btw.
>>541880787>unions want to import people who will work for less and suppress wages. Something something words I learned from 4chanBrain damage
>>541880261Whats funny is most commies arent working class. 90% of the DSA's members are white and hold bachelors degrees.
>>541880886Go look at union voting patterns and political donations. Unions are indeed the biggest supporters of the importation of scabs. What, did you think unions were for the workers? No. Unions are for the benefit of the union admin, no one else. Remember, worker's rights in this country advanced primarily due to a megacapitalist, and the fascists.
>>541881095You're not going to convince me unions are bad by parroting anti union billionaires. You stupid fuck
>>541881095Im from Chicago originally. The leader of the Ironworkers Union makes like $500,000 a year. Being a red sure is green.
>>541881183Not as much as the ceo assuming you're not just making shit up
>>541881179I'm not parroting anybody. I looked at the data and the trends over decades. You, obviously, have not. Why not dig into what they do, opposed to what they say?
>>541881322Show me this data
>>541868879"Companies can steal from you, but it's wrong to steal it back" cuck
>>541874422>I like wasting my time trying to understand the bureaucratic and corporate mazes and jargon.
>>541881304that guy IS the ceo of the union. what, you thought they didnt have those?
>>541881373Hard mode choose a source that isn't corporate owned media (impossible)
>>541881373Donations are public record bro. As are endorsements. These things are trivial to find.
>>541881477And youre the ceo of moms basement. No unions dont have fucking ceos because you made up a title holy fuck are you stupid
>>541881095Unions support immigrant protections because they reduce the leverage employers have over illegals, e.g. they don't have to worry about a boss calling ICE if they try to unionize.
>>541868879The word "utopian" sounds like it starts with a "y" sound (/juːˈtoʊpiən/)
>>541881095>Unions are indeed the biggest supporters of the importation of scabs.Can unions import immigrants?>Labor unions cannot legally "import" or sponsor immigrants to enter the country for work. Under United States immigration law, the legal authority to sponsor foreign workers for employment-based visas (such as H-1B, H-2A, or H-2B visas) belongs strictly to employers. Ooooo So close. The answer was employers, not unions. Employers.
>>541881501If you want to take money out of politics fine but youre not adding those to corporate salaries so as usual you're a disingenuous faggot
>>541881617Which political party and PACs do unions support and donate to?
>>541881501Ok, show that data then
>>541881623>non-sequiturCould you stay on topic?
>>541881650>THINK FOR ME!I'd really rather not. Explains how you got your opinions though.
>>541869755>gov't promise to dismiss my debt if I enlistrack up millions worth of debt and convert it to monero or buried gold by the creek. enlist and immediately demand all debt dismissed with paper trail. the moment debt is 0 is when you start doing private pile by being an absolute degenerate to be kicked out of service
>>541881665If youre talking donations we can go into corporate donations that they dont even need to disclose. Either way you're babbling in bad faith
>>541881644I can vote left without supporting immigration, and I can vote right without supporting tax cuts for billionaires and sending money to israel.Your use of the word "support" is misleading.
>>541881730Corporations do have to disclose donations. Why are you trying to change the subject?
>>541879600who the fuck even falls for this anymore. goy, your debt will be erased after you serve 24-36 months. we might kick you out at any point prior to that and you'll be still responisble for your debt. ooh goy, don't pay attention to those stories that vets that served multiple tours are now mandated to repay sign on bonuses. nah, kike, uggh i know I know just not gonna die for jew that is all. money first then you get your product
>>541881751>i can vote left without supporting immigration.You cannot. It's been the primary offering of the leftwing for almost a century now. It's a little bit like saying you can vote for the nazis without supporting all that anti-jewish stuff. Look at what they do. Not what they say.
>>541880832Thank you for saying, "tranny" because it gives me a reason to post this.
>>541881848Current Nazis vote Rightwing. Which advocates sending money to israel. Do I should say Nazis advocate giving money to Israel?
>>541881751>I can vote left without supporting immigration,You cannot.
>>541881958Are the nazis going out and endorsing, organizing, and donating to organizations that support giving money to israel? Then, yes, you can because it is the truth.
>>541882008>You must advocate every single policy a party hasBullshit, no I don't.
>>541868879These retards will flip-flop on everything.Look at Sanders, he was calling for the government to investment in AI so everyone benefits. Now he was to restrict AI.https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/01/opinion/artificial-intelligence-bernie-sanders.html https://apnews.com/article/bernie-sanders-ai-public-ownership-57b9f20d96490083e2749adba0f13977?taid=6a33cfc00a5bfc0001a3bcdb https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/sen-bernie-sanders-yes-we-must-hit-pause-button-ai-before-it-is-too-late https://www.axios.com/2026/08/10/sanders-ai-development-pause
>>541882066You cay say you don't advocate it, but if you vote left, then you vote for all of it's platforms, as well.
>>541882066It's their primary policy. Why vote for them if you disagree with their primary policy?
>>541882021>endorsing, organizing, and donatingYes. Nazis endorse, organize and donate to the Republican party. And the Republican party supports Israel.
>>541881780>look how they vooote They vote for pro union candidates which arent republican
>>541882138True. So you vote Right I assume. You advocate sending money to israel?
>>541882185They vote for candidates that promise to give them kickbacks (which is oligarchical corruption). Those candidates are also primarily focused on the importation and entrenchment of scabs. Therefore, they vote for the importation of scabs. You have proven me correct. Thank you.
>>541882262>They vote for candidates that promise to give them kickbacksYeah. I vote for people that advocate to give me shit. So do billionaires. Billionaires like Elon shill for the candidate that will slip them the most money
>>541882257I do not vote right. I stopped voting for Republicans a long time ago. Now what will your next attack angle be?
>>541882167Glad we agree on something then.
>>541882346Indeed. This is what is known as "corruption" and is the primary flaw of democracy.
>>541882357None. There's no point in arguing about voting with someone who doesn't vote.
>>541882406>can't use shame tactics anymore>resorts to giving up entirelyI accept your concession, dork.
>>541868879>"this thing that might be a huge problem should be transparent">OMG LITERALLY COMMUNISMAre you a bot?
>>541869208Literal retard
>>541882262They still offer workers protection against people who would normally just fire them and hire illegals if they strike. They do more for workers than elon musk does. Comparing the two is par for your type though
>>541882519Literal bot
>>541882488It's like talking sex positions with an incel.
>>541882583Tits or GTFO, foid.
>>541868879This is the Barri Weiss rag. Read something on literally any other site.
>>541871944If someone's website tells you they are Marxist Leninist, maybe they are?
>>541882604If I wasn't phone posting, you'd get the harriest man-tits you ever saw
>>541882548You don't know what liberalism means. You're just retarded. Spamming a thread with 38 posts instead of reading is why you don't know anything.
>>541882674Which of their policies are Marxist leninist?
>>541869208Commies are just that tho, footsoldiers of globohomo. So the label is accurate.
>>541882746>spamming So stop replying. Getting retards mad is fun for me. If you stop sobbing corporate knob and having hissy fits I'll get bored
>>541868879AI is literally just a very advanced form of data compression, it's government approved mass content theft on a scale never seen. The profits definitely shouldn't be going to who they're going to right now.
Trump hasn’t done anything for the White man, at least these supposed “commies” will give me my Medicare back that Republicans are taking away instead of spending it on Greater Israel and wars against Iran
>>541882802>they're all the same broShut your clap trap demoralization bot
>>541882866>Trump hasn’t done anything for the White manTrump is so ashamed of his race he spray paints himself orange
>>541882520Not really. They steal from workers to benefit their admin. Most of the "protections" they offer they won't really fight for. Most union shops have a bilk the worker's agreement with the management.
>>541882761https://redstarcaucus.org/points-of-unity/
lmao it's the same guy
>>541883032Whatever. Collective bargaining is still the best move I have at my disposal. So I'm gonna use it.
>>541883032Yeah that's why every time strikes happen they either get concessions or the government has to break them up. Striking works and unions offer protections against getting fired for doing so. This is elementary level corporate dick riding. I really deserve better shills
>>541881902>youre not a man!>by the way here's a r*ddit screenshotThank you for letting me know that you are not human and I can just disregard you
>>541882761You went quiet. That's weird.
>>541883418Cuckpitalists arent human, you are expecting a human conversation and youre just never going to get it, they cant do anything other than import Indians to work for cheaper wages.
>>541883101It's not a bad plan. Organize on something real, however.>>541883129You really can't stop with the non-sequiturs. As for unions having the back of the workers, remember when the railworkers went on strike, biden intervened and got them a worse deal than they had before, and then that same union endorsed biden?Was that a pro worker move?
>>541883418Are you malfunctioning? Its a simple question unless you dont know what Marxism leninism is
>>541883509Yeah they should have voted for Republicans who are notoriously anti union. >liberals arent actually pro union You're a fucking genius. Hopefully they learned their lesson though
>>541882868And if I don't? Gonna throw an other impotent tantrum?They are functionally the same. Libs want:>open borders>lgbtq faggotry>higher taxesCommies want>open borders>lgbtq faggotry>abolish private propertyThe only difference is that libs want to take a lot of weakth away from people while commies want to take all of it.
>>541883644Unions aren't pro worker. I notice you didn't address that point.
>>541883706They may or may not be pro worker, but they ARE the best way to affect change in the work place. Short of seizing the means of production
>>541883656Didn't read. Keep your doom posting to yourself you little bitch. I dont care
>>541869208theyre attempting an anglo alternative, probably because so many people are discontent with the two party structure. but we all know how it works, they do what the jewish script tells them to do or they ninja vanish from everyones feeds
>>541883772They are not. The best way to affect change in the work place is to attack the corpratist in his base of power. His scabs. Remove all the scabs and you will see the worker rise. Strangely, the unions are all pro-scab.
>>541869700>On a policy basis, most of america sides with the DSAlmao... you leftist freaks are such fucking idiots. just because every faggot you interact with has the exact same set of opinions on every issue thanks to your love of jewish brainwashing doesn't mean everyone agrees with you.
>>541883847There's potentially 340 million scabs. I can't do anything about that, short of unionizing them into fellow socialists.
>>541883706imagine making 33 posts and then invalidating all of it by saying something this dumb
>>541883706The whole point of capitalism is maximizing profits. You lie and say that leads to higher wages through competition but stagnate wages have proven that a lie. Your corporate propaganda is the most bare bones level bullshit people are taught in first grade
>mention COMMUNISM!!!>Thread gets bot swarmedCorralling the goy back on to the Zionist plantation. Just keep giving rich jews all the power guys. Thats worked out great for you so far.
>>541883855Policy basis. Most of america likes social security. Most of america actually wants healthcare. Most of america approves of food stamps. Most of america approves of higher wages. Most of america wants to tax the rich.It's the socialist label that's scary. The policies are quite popular.
>>541883950It's true. >>541883927You can. It is in fact easier, more effective, and more moral than turning the scabs into socialists. You should be advocating anti-scab policies, as those are pro worker policies. You should be organizing for anti-scab politicians, as those are pro-worker politicians. You should be supporting anti-scab organizations, as those are pro-worker organizations. All of those are easier to do, more moral actions you can take, rather than sell out your fellows to the pro-scab oligarchy.
karl marx was a fat lazy jewish bum that never worked a day in his life and you're a bored trust fund kid who doesn't live in reality go back to your massively brigaded, censored and curated gay race communist reddit shithole and make another subversive sub to spam to the top of the frontpage of that awful place
>>541884086You have a tenuous grasp, at best, of what a scab is
>>541883983Wages are stagnant because both sides of the aisle have been advocating for the mass importation of scabs for a century. One party is starting to be anti-scab. Being anti-scab is the single best way to raise wages, and secure the worker. Why fo you advocate for pro-scab organizations?
>>541884141I know what a scab is. You, evidently, do not.
>>541884174Define it for me
>>541884149>if we deport all the illegals theyll start paying Americans more Whats stopping them doing that now you fucking moron? They dont HAVE to hire illegals for less but they do
unions negotiate for higher wages, stronger worker protections and benefits such as healthcare, while you sit on the sidelines screeching about free healthcare with no path to getting therego hang yourself with your pali rat flag rag and keyfah
>>541884214Sure, an outside person hired to lower the leverage of the workers, and negatively affect their ability to organize.
>>541884239Market forces you retarded commie mong.
>>541884311Lmao and what exactly does that mean dip fuck deep throating corporate interests in ANOTHER COUNTRY
>>541884239>what's stopping the people i call greedy pigs from being voluntarily less greedy?No clue anon. What do you think would happen to wages if all h1-bs, h2-bs, and illegals were removed? I'll tell you. Wages would skyrocket.
>>541877852Please start your revolution so I dont need an excuse to kill you.
>>541884293And in the face of 340 million scabs, what anti-scab policy do you advocate for?
>>541878242I do.I want you delusional commie morons to start your violent revolution so we can exterminate you like rats.
>>541884389The revolution will not be televised. You'll miss it while you pound off to anime
>>541883817>bitchboy runs awayAs expected, libtard
>>541884410Mass deportations, ending the visa lottery, and canceling all existant work visas. Yeah, that's an ask. It is an easier, more effective, and more moral ask than turning the nation into an oligarchical killing field.
>>541884373We've already basically eliminated all visas, and we're shipping out 600,000 illegals a year. It should take about 28 more years to get them all assuming we have perfect border controls.When do the wages start to go up? 10 years from now? 20 years from now?
>>541884420>I want to fight 168 million poor peopleLol. Ok.
>>541868879>t.
>>541884521>Your solution isn't a magic cure-all!If that's your strongest criticism, I'd have to say you agree with me.
>>541884494Yeah, we already did most of that. When do the wages start to go up?
>>541884489>debate my entry level gaptilism talking points. Nope. Pro union or I got nothing to say to you. Cry about jews to someone else
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>>541884570>leftist rat harking about pedos
>>541868879Communists in Russia actually did a lot of work on early computer systems, because they wanted an advanced supercomputer to model the entire economy and set prices
>>541884594We, uh, didn't. The deportations are only just starting, and we haven't canceled extant visas. Turns out, a century of purposeful destruction can't get cleaned up overnight.
>>541884594They talk a big game but do you think white people clean trumps hotels?
>>541873443>red team / blue teamhmmkind of, yeah...
>>541884794Does trump pay a living wage? Or, famously, does he hire illegals because they're cheap?
>>541884643>another poorly veiled hissy fitCalled it. Know a liberal sissy when I see one.
>>541884818Is that a real question?
>>541884714>The deportations are only just startingThey're pretty much maxed out. We already doubled their funding and workforce just to get roughly the same performance as Obama>and we haven't canceled extant visas175,000.So, when do the wages go up?
>>541884830Look bro. Im just not gonna entertain someone who is anti union and claims both sides are the same. Its like arguing with a cat. Im sorry Im not going to entertain your retardation. Maybe go ask your dad
>>541884842It is. You know the answer. And you know it doesn't favor your snide remark. This means you know anti-scab policies benefit the worker. I wonder why you can't advocate for them.
>>541868879This sounds good to me.
>>541868879>rigorous democratic transparencylol we've seen how the left handles that
>>541884913What hourly wage would you classify as liveable?
>>541884913Your "anti scab policies" do nothing to prevent businesses from hiring scabs
>>541884892>obama deported more!Obama, famously, lied about his numbers.>175,00 visas are all extant visasThe "official" numbers pin the amount of people here on h1bs alone at over a million. We also know h1bs are commonly frauded. We also know it serves corpratists to undersell these numbers.>The market hasn't self corrected over night!Yeah. That's expected. Turns out government policy is not, in fact, magic.
>>541885012>removing the abundance of and easy access to scabs does nothing to reduce the ease of access to scabs.You may want to think that over again. A time or two. Roll that logic around in your brain and apply it to other things you may favor.>>541884990This is what is known, again, as a non-sequitur.
>>541884894The transparent tough guy act is how I onow 100% sure you're a lil bitch.
>>541885063>Obama, famously, lied about his numbers.I doubt Trump's numbers as well. But to be fair, Obama, Biden, and trump all put up roughly the same numbers. Maybe that's just the max speed of the system.>The market hasn't self corrected over night!As I said, it'll take 28 years to get roughly 14 million people out. When do YOU think the wages will go up?
>>541868879Anyone remember DSA using "jazz hands" instead of clapping because the loud claps were triggering for peoples with sensory overload? https://youtu.be/UPLQNUVmq3oThere is zero potential in the DSA, they are not hardcore socialists/communists or hardcore anything, they are literal pussy faggots. DSA is a paper tiger meme that the left needs showcase as a power center in order to have a space for the childish lunatics they created so that they only go off the rails when their party tells them to. The right is helping to build the paper tiger because also profit off the idea as they can use it to remind right wingers to hold the line against [whatever DSA will come out in favor of]. Preparation work for future news cycles where either A or B happens:Scenario A:>dumb pointless event happens>goes viral>DSA: "We ackshually agree with this.">leftist weirdos start a mob again>Fox: "You don't agree with DSA do you?">right wingers get behind more privacy invasion, data centers, etc...Scenario B:>dumb pointless event happens>goes viral>DSA: "We ackshually agree with this.">CNN: "The DSA is off the rails, we're not all like that.">Fox: "The left is more moderate these days, only the DSA is off the rails."They are fake and gay, do not fear them and let the actual antagonists get away. Them being a centerpiece helps the left navigate through the TDS mess DC has created and allows them to manage the "bipartisan issues" they will eventually need to push for. The DSA will dance to whatever tune their betters play and be left without a chair when the music stops and the higher ups need a villain on their own side to take heat off of them.>omg anon, you want us to ignore literal communist madmen? *scoff!*Repeat: They are fake and gay. The fakest and gayest. Using them as an example for communists lets actual communists hide in the shadows, they will let you knock over the paper tiger while the snake slithers forward.
>>541885172There's already 340 million potential scans. What policy do you advocate for to prevent employers from hiring scabs?
>>541885172Its pretty important when youre trying to determine if someone is paying a living wage. I know its your go to and you're a complete moron but its not a non sequitur
>>541885376I've explained them. You get that number down to 250 million scabs, and you've created a significant decrease in corporate power>>541885318>it's not happening instantly!!!!!!Yeah. It will take time, like anything else. It seems your main criticism is that no one can magically fix all problems.
>>541885466It is a non-sequitur. Do you not understand that concept?
>>541885586I do. You dont think asking what a living wage is is relevant but it is. Say if you said 7an hour is a living wage. Its not but if you believe it is you could easily claim that the 7 an hour trump pays his cleaning staff is a liveable wage. Which it isnt. Which is why you're avoiding the question
>>541885513>You get that number down to 250That will take 200 years at the current rate, and it will deport 86 million American citizens cause we ran out of immigrants back at 14 millionSo 200 years till I get a raise under your plan?
>>541885513>It seems your main criticism is that no one can magically fix all problems.Actually I can haggle for wages and legislate wages quite easily. Your plan of throw everyone out till they go up sucks.
>>541885740>there's only 14 million immigrantsBiden alone let in 20 million.>but what if your plan takes time!!Then it takes time. Why would you not want things to get better?>>541885586The exact amount is a non-sequitur. We both agree that trump does not pay enough to attract a legal worker, and he does not need to due to the abundance of illegal scab labor. You are avoiding this point deliberately.
>>541885799>legislating wages.This uh, does not work. And we've thousands of years of evidence that this doesn't work. Essentially, you're saying a slow improvement isn't a quick enough solve for your problems, so suicide is a better option.>haggling for wages.This is the exact benefit the corpratists get from the scabs. This is the exact benefit my plan attacks.
>>541885855>Biden alone let in 20 million.No evidence of that. But I'll take a citation if you've got one. >Then it takes time.>His response to hearing something will take 200 years
>>541886034I do not agree it will take 200 years. This reveals an interesting thing about your psyche though. Do you not believe we should plan for a better society in 200 years?>no evidence of 20 million.It's public knowledge. Go look at immigration watchdogs.
>>541885960>This uh, does not work.Never heard of minimum wage, eh?>Essentially, you're saying a slow improvement isn't a quick enoughSorry. $1.00/hr raise is roughly... 40 hrs x 52 weeks. $2000 per year. $170 a month. That's what, 2.5 tanks of gas right now?
>>541886136DHS itself says 14 million. https://ohss.dhs.gov/topics/immigration/illegal/population-estimates
>>541880752Filthy retarded whore, at that.
>>541886452Im glad youre mad. But strikes are coming and the illegals are getting deported. Bootstrap it up
>>541868879>The Free Presskys kike I don't believe your lying cunt mouth
>>541868879>trained on reddit
