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I was taught in school that oil came from dinosaur bones. Now it's microscopic shit? Tell me the truth you autistic faggots.
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oil isn't real
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>>541879840
I can buy it.
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>>541879719
Except that's not even true. It's literally just part of a circulatory system that the earth has. There are petroleum deposits on planets with zero evidence of life. The Russians studied this decades ago and pretty definitively proved the fossil and bio source was utterly impossible. Even if you claimed 100% of biomass turned into oil, it still didn't add up to the amount we know of. Every time we claim it's gone in the next 10 years, more appears. Yet lots of schools still teach this nonsense like glass flowing even when proven otherwise..
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>>541880117
So where does it come from? I agree that it's not finite, but where?
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>>541879719
>>environments without oxygen, which stopped them from rotting completely
so you're saying the more weed i smoke the less i age? so that's where my millennial glow comes from
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>>541880277
I can't smoke the devils lettuce anymore. You guys have made it too strong. When I smoked it a nickel bag cost 5 bucks. A dime bag was 10 bucks, etc.
You weed smokers are superhuman or something. Paranoia is what weed is for.
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>>541880117
>Russians
>Science Discoveries

Pick one, Lysenko
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Oil is caused by carbonaceous minerals meeting intense heat and pressure combined with water and trace elements. The heat and extreme pressures cause the molecules to break apart and reform as carbon chains. This process is balanced by the pressure of the earth's crust and the amount of water introduced into the reaction. It's a massive chemical reaction using heat and pressure and fed by carbonates and water. Electrical charges in the crust probably also play a part, but that's not certain.
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>>541880964
So it's renewable?
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>>541879719
Well some of the oil comes from dinosaur bones, just a small fraction though.
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>>541881155
I was taught (wrongly) in middle school (late 70s) that all oil came from the bones. No shit. Thats what they taught.
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>>541880964
If electrical synthesis happens, it could be due either from negative and positive charges in portions of the earth's crust passing current through the water-mineral mixture, the flow of electrons molecular and atomic bonds to break, and reform into new substances. This forms oil(a complex mixture of long-chain and simple hydrocarbons) and gas(mostly methane, freed methyls from the reaction). Another source of electrons could be metals and electron-donating/receiving minerals, which act like a battery generating electricity in the "electrolyte" that is the carbon mineral and water trapped and heated under pressure.

I'd almost guarantee this is what's happening at least to some degree. This would explain why crude oils from different parts of the world have a different "reaction product". If you have any experience in basic college organic chemistry, you should know this intuitively. It's very obvious how oil is made.
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>>541880248
there are many sources of oil, look it up
ancient biomass (mostly plant matter) is just one source
deep deposits are from the mantle 'boiling' certain minerals in the crust
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>>541881088
Yes, but not over a certain rate. The rate of the reactions and reactants have limits, and the reactants are fed into the reaction vessel(earth's crust) only at a specific rate. Rate in a "natural" chem reaction will ALWAYS try to self-regulate. CO2 becomes carbonate minerals as well, so CO2 actually feeds the reaction, just like water. Carbonates used in the reaction come from CO2. It's a balance that has been sine-waving for billions of years. You can see this balancing in ice core samples.
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>>541881497
>the flow of electrons causes molecular
derpi doo
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>>541879719
It's the blood of the earth.
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>>541879719
I’m sitting on a huge undiscovered deposit of oil with a capacity of over 100m barrels of WTI crude oil. Quads and I reveal the coordinates
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>>541880117
This has been disproven on more than a thousand occasions.
Nearly all oil comes from periods of large swathes non predated material, so algae like single cell organisms that die without predation and just sink to the bottom, or trees that had nothing to break down the leaves until something evolved to do so, meaning that over millenia massive amounts of leaves ended up being washed into basins or river basins.
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>>541880117
>>541880964
Even if the process you described was correct, that's still biogenic oil. You just changed the carbon source from the soft tissue of organisms to the carbonate shells of organisms.
Actual mantle derived carbon minerals are extremely rare. Carbonatites are even rarer than kimberlites.
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>>541879719
That's your fault for thinking fossils are only dinosaur bones
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>>541881088
renewable in the same way peat is renewable, sure
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>>541879719
Oil is the black blood of the earth.
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Ancient plankton and algae are the dinosaur bones they are talking about dumbass.
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>>541882545
It's not just shells. The earth itself is volcanic, sometimes in great bursts. Most of the earth's carbon is volcanic. That's what put carbon into the water/air to become the backbone of life.
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>>541881088
On geologic time scales, under the right conditions.

Take the Arctic oil and gas deposits. That required specific circumstances, with the continents still close together making an enclosed inland sea, containing all the nutrients the river systems fed into it. And the climate had to be such that the north pole was tropical. Then it took ~800,000 for the dead plant matter to accumulate. Then millions more years for it to get buried under enough sediment to reach a depth with the pressure and temperature needed turn it into something useful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azolla_event
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>>541879719
Dinosaurs never existed. The Cambrian explosion was literally an act of God that created all the species we see today.
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>fossils = dinosaurs
goddamn how do rightoids manage to KEEP getting stupider and stupider? where is the fucking floor?
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>>541883357
>It's not just shells
Shells, tests, corals. That's what limestone is made of. It's organic and has nothing to do with volcanic rocks.

Sometimes these carbonate rocks get subducted and contribute to the magma in orogenic volcanos, but the organic origin of the carbon is still evident by the isotope ratios.

Carbon from the actual mantle is extremely rare, we're talking diamond deposits and even rarer types of rocks.
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>>541883357
>That's what put carbon into the water/air to become the backbone of life.
That happened in the beginning when the first planet formed and differentiated. Nothing to do with ongoing volcanic processes.



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