He's right whether you like it or not
Yeah but how the fuck are we going to get goyim to support Israel if they dont think god is jewish?
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>>541887469The Black Templars were founded by one of the few Great Crusade-era Astartes that viewed the Emperor as a god so I don't know why you overlayed them onto the image. Sigismund was regularly derided for his religious beliefs.
>>541887469"there is no place for religion in my imperium" t. the immortal god-emperor
>>541888199And the hypocrite even tolerates the cult of Mars that worships machines.
>>541887469The Emperor is Cain.
>>541888843Read the Lore nigger.
>>541887662GW really shat the bed with their lore, know the primarchs are back how the fuck can you have the BT?
>>541888979>know the primarchs are back how the fuck can you have the BT?IIRC they exist on a technicality. Astartes are partially exempt from Codex regulations if they're on Crusade, and the BTs are always on Crusade.
>>541887662>He knows enough about gay nerd shit to correct a memeLearning every train schedule in Europe would be just as autistic and more useful.
>>541889089IT'S ROW-BOOT-EH
>>541887469https://youtube.com/shorts/CcgSregbMfI?
>>541887469see, if instead of retarded reddit atheists we had a giant Emperor of Mankind and his imperial cult looking to conquer the galaxy as it's ideological goal, atheism would be a lot more appealing
oy veyhow will chaos subvert humanity now
>>541889089I mean how can you have people who view and worship the emperor as a god when his sons who knew him as a man and that he wouldn't allow that return, imagine when dorn returns...
>>541888979First thing papa surf did after resurrecting was reveal his shock that astartes actually followed the codex for so long. Then the eldar revealed that big E is in all likelihood an actual god now due to trillions of souls worshipping him for 10k yearsI'm also kinda amazed atheists irl think that the Emperor mandating atheism is some W, when the reason he did that is because literal chaos gods are real in the setting that he physically stood in front of and spoke to.
>>541889608>nulorekek
>>541889507>imagine when dorn returns...Guilliman will probably have to break the news that God E is resurrecting saints, providing daily miracles, and physically possessed his body to burn Nurgle's garden. He's already been through enough shit in the few years he's been back to disqualify the imperial truth
>>541889507>I mean how can you have people who view and worship the emperor as a god when his sons who knew him as a man and that he wouldn't allow that returnThe only reason Guilliman can come back and declare himself de facto ruler of the Imperium is because of his modern status as the son of god. If he start going around preaching what is now effectively heresy he'll get thrown into the same category as traitor primarchs. It's a beautiful irony and a testament to how powerful faith is in the Imperium. The Imperial Truth is undeniably dead.
>>541887469Learning the Imperial truth was fucking gay, no one is going to war over reddit tier atheism. They should have just "creatively borrowed" from Dune some more and made a new religion. The modern 40k universe is leaps and bounds more internally consistent than 30k.
>>541889746What's any of that got to do with not worshipping gods?
Well duh. The roman empire has its own thing it needs to do
>>541889897They went the war for their race, humanity, to reclaim the galaxy and everything it had lostchriggers wouldn't get it
>>541887469But the Imperium of Man literally worships the corpse on a throne as their god.Necrons are the rightful owners of the Milky Way galaxy by the way.
>>541889755yeah I'm sure it's nothing to do with being a primarch... if Alexander the great or Caesar came back to life they would command people's following for who they where not for some religious belief
>>541889973True, but doesn't make the Imperial truth any less gay.
>>541887469>I base my system of belief on a vidya game!Lol, didn't think anti-Christian shilling on /pol/ could get any worse.
>>541889978Imperials living on stolen land.
>>541889978Ive started to lean towards the tyrandis
>>541890039>yeah I'm sure it's nothing to do with being a primarch...It's conditional. It's not like Magnus could come back and start making broad sweeping changes. Guilliman is in a very precarious position and even with his status as a demigod son of the Emperor he could very easily spark a second civil war that kills the Imperium for good.
>>541890078>a vidya game!It's a tabletop game fren. Not being a cunt about it, just letting you know.>>541889978>>541890132I am a full time Genestealer Cults simp.
>>541889973In the 40k universe humanity is worshiping the emperor as a god. You don't even play the game. do you? You are probably reading from a wiki. >>541889973>Doesn't know where the word Crusade comes from.
>>541890156No, magnus was on the wrong sideif Hitler came back to life do you think people would follow him for his actions and status or his religious beliefs?
>>541890229Yes, humanity is literally in a dark age you fucking spastic
>>541890261If you actually play the game. You are furfag that plays Space Wolves.
>>541890219Tryanids have a good time, but theyre not as pointless and retarded as chaos, they get the job done. Work hard, play hard, and sacrifice for their bros
>>541890290>no argumentConcession accepted
>>541889921Idk anon, what do you think metaphysical manifestations of a god do to the sons that were told not to believe in miracles would do?
>>541890353>Indian detected
>>541890237>if Hitler came back to life do you think people would follow him for his actions and status or his religious beliefs?That's a bit contextually different, since modern society is largely secular. The Imperial Cult is a force to be reckoned with and I'm not sure Guilliman, even with the combined might of Ultramarine derivative chapters, could stand against a tide of psychotic frothing-at-the-mouth zealots. That's especially the case if the crazy faith-miracles and saints function against him too.
>>541890365why couldn't you answer the question?
>>541890365Didn't have a stroke while typing that btw I'm eating my dinner lol
>>541890311I really enjoy the aesthetic of GSC being downtrodden mutant communist rebels fighting for a future that will wipe them all out. It's very tongue in cheek and I'm surprised there's anybody with a sense of humor left writing rulebooks for Games Workshop.
>do not worship anything, including me, a quasi immortal deity with warp sorcery able to contend with warp gods>but I'm still not a God, just the universe's greatest dad with tools for sons, mmmmkaypeak writing by the way
>>541890452Tyranids vs Chaos
>>541890405>I mean how can you have people who view and worship the emperor as a god when his sons who knew him as a man and that he wouldn't allow that returnMy replies answered that though. In a nutshell, it doesn't matter what he wanted or what the primarchs want because the 40k universe operates on the law of attraction. So if a few trillion people think you're a god, you become one.
>>541890557GSC vs. Chaos Daemons
Tyranids are the living embodiment of Law and Order in a world of shit
>>541889102Disagree. He was capable of calling out your meme. It's a sick dichotomy in WH40k the Emperors hatred of religion and his Empire deifying him as he eternally fights at the gates of the materium holding back the Chaos Gods.
>>541887469religion is a natural side effect of retards that need to be kept in check and worked on the field. it is not optional. it just happens. it's like the poop from humans/animals. you have the animals you accept the poop, there's no way around it. they'll naturally do it.so religion just recongnizes that and organizes it. religion is organized poop, you can get something out of it.you do not decide to drop religion, that's simply punching yourself in the face. at most you replace it with something else like trannies do, and woke idiots. that's still religion, just in a different form. there is no way around it. the cause is the idiots, religion is best way to deal with them.
>>541890785Of course a guru would think so. The content of a religion and most importantly what it teaches are extremely relevant. It isn't a retard tether. It's a whole behavioral model that can go a long way to define people. Of course, there's also jeets, cult leaders, etc... That just takes man's natural need for a god or gods and twists it into something disgusting based on bullshit. Do, of course when your only experience with religion is being scammed and learning to scam you're going to think it's all bullshit.
>>541887469A major point of lore is that the emperor was far removed from humanity that he couldn't understand them, almost like he was literally autistic.>I need to destroy these evil gods>I'll just tell everybody gods aren't real while presenting myself as a god and routinely wielding phenomenal cosmic power on a scale nobody can replicate>I need my faggot anger issues kid to get on my ship instead of dying in a last stand with his bros>Instead of beaming down and rescuing him and his crew, I'll just abduct him. He won't hold a grudge>my big red space kid and his kids are all good at space magic like I am>I'll just order them to never use the space magic I use all the time with no explanation as to why it's dangerous if you aren't a god
>>541891268And the entire Imperium suffers due to the decisions of a family that was far from perfect but the only humans even capable of mantling the responsibility.
>>541890575No it does t, you just attributing his powers to religion, and then claiming see hrs religious and a god
>>541891268>Trying to make sense of nulore yeah you think it's retarded cos the people that added that on weren't very clever, the original and early setting made perfect sense
>>541891678>ESL evidence comes out, indicating angerकस्य दीर्घविरामः? भवतः विश्रान्तौ आसीत् वा?
>>541891678His current powers in 40k (not 30k) are actually divine though. He has his own "daemons" in the form of imperial saints, which are warp entities. You also have shit like little girls banishing daemons by screaming his name and other miracles occurring now that the great rift opened. The rift itself could be attributed to him ascending.
>>541891828Yeah nu lore is retardedif you adopt that then you believe there are black space wolves and blood angels and a woman created the primarchs
And that’s why he’s now a living corpse worshipped by dogmatic extremists, technologically stagnant for ten thousand years so far.
>>541892030rip
>>541892030>Yeah nu lore is retardedTake it as it is. It could have been a lot worse.
>>541893090>Take it as it is.No>It could have been a lot worsehow?
>>541893138>how?They could have made an absolute mockery of what the Emperor was, depicting him as a bumbling fucking retard instead of just a hypocrite, and then have him emasculated by a xenos black woman for no apparent reason.
>>541893189They have made him a retard, and that other stuff will come, just like primarchs will be reconned into being female and black
>>541887469>religion is foolish superstitious nonsense>my literally immortal psychic self is gonna fight literal gods using magic
>>541889089>>541888979First off it doesn't count if you are on crusade and they are always on crusade. Second they stay spread out so the count is never really know. Third the moment girlyman was back he made a fucking legion again.
Is there a board where I can read discussions that are just about wh40k itself without having to justify fitting into the board topic like here or /v/?
>>541895048No board exists for tabletop rpg's. Nope. There is nof a board for anonymous users to talk about this if it isn't political. There isn't a blue board for that.
>>541895207That's a shame
>>541887469>religion bad>oh except for the one that i made where im the god of it>that one is fine
>>541888843Only because they venerate him as the avatar of the machine God.
>>541895207If you go to /tg/ and try to talk about stuff like this they call you a secondary lol