A mentally healthy person can learn from their mistakes; an insane person cannot.After completing treatment in a psychiatric institution, criminals should still have to serve the full prison sentence.Am I the only one who holds this view?
there are degrees of insanity. most mentally ill people don't want to hurt anyone. but yeah, if you go out and murder 3 innocent children, they should throw the book at you. i'm mentally ill and i promise you i can learn from my mistakes
At the least it should fast track the death penalty. They should get cuts in line.
>>541896147>Muh whataboutisms! Reeee!I didn't talk about literally everything in the universe. I talked about a specific thing and context. Learn to read!
>>541896048Yes, it should be viewed the same as prior criminal behavior in court. Also, if evidence shows that the illness was diagnosed earlier and the defendant refused or neglected treatment, it should be an automatic conviction and sentence to the maximum penalty allowable for the specific crime.
>>541896048This bitch got mind-controlled. Mental illness is only real if you’ve got physical trauma from being hit in the head or some shit.
>>541896048>A mentally healthy person can learn from their mistakes; an insane person cannot.You could argue that's a reason for the opposite view. A sane person has no excuse for being a fuckup and you can just put the insane one on meds (if they work). That being said, I'd still lock up the insane person because there is a deterrent factor in crime where I don't want to be sending a message to insane people that they can kill and receive a lesser sentence
>>541896048"Temporary insanity" does not exist. It was a made up defense by a dude who murdered his cheating wife's lover in the late 1800s. The jury went for it because adultury was considered a heinous crime back then aka it was deserved. No one temporarily loses their sanity. This bitch should be burned at the stake on national television.
>>541897524>A sane person has no excuse for being a fuckupThanks for repeating the 10000 times established opinion of the majority.What's this obsession with excuses for serious crimes and special rights and privileges? The primary goal is to ensure that you are no longer a danger to others. Rehabilitating a mentally ill person necessarily takes longer than rehabilitating a mentally healthy person. If you're mentally ill, that makes the situation more serious.
>>541896851She is afflicted by demons but those demons have access to her because she is an unrepentant sinner. It used to be widely understood that the mentally ill are ill due to their poor morality.
>>541897524>I don't want to be sending a message to insane peopleI guess it depends on the type of mental illness but it seems to me that they wouldn't understand that message, or if they did it wouldn't affect their actions.To say that a person is capable of examining the possible consequences of their actions and making a logical decision to not commit a crime on that basis seems to be rejecting the idea that they're insane.
>>541897726hmmm it sounds like your emotions are making you justify the prospect of grievous harm to a perceived wrongdoer this neurological pathway could never fail due to human weakness
society is a skinner box that makes people insane, and retards on /pol/ think punishing them for their insanity is the right course of action lmao
>>541896048>In criminal cases, mental illness should be an aggravating factor, not a mitigating oneIt is for sex offenses.
>>541896048I've always thought this too>gets a light sentence because of their "abusive upbringing" and "cultural factors"ok so we ALL AGREE this person is a bomb waiting to go off, because of their "abusive upbringing", and this is reflected by getting them back into society EARLIER?
We have a couple of female cops and I speed like a mother fucker. If I get pulled over by one I'm demanding a male show up because one bad hot flash and BOOM.
>>541896048The ones that don't accept and complete treatment definitely should get harsher sentences like this foid. They usually don't take the meds like they're supposed to. Whether the meds or therapy work, that's a topic for another day.
>>541896048i hate her nose so muchits ANNOYING
>>541898119>I have a testicular emergency, call the Sargent!
>>541896048No you aren't. You are absolutely right. It's so stupid to let all this insane people walk free just because they are insane. How can this benefit the society. I think your approach is a sensible one. First you heal them from their mental illness than you punish them for their crimes. This would reduce the mental illness defense cases probably to zero.
She should be released, given a large settlement for her wrongful imprisonment, and her husband should be put on trial and then immediately executed.
>>541897860I've met one wicked person who was only pretending to be crazy, after that it's difficult to forgive anyone,, you just automatically think that they should be punished for good measure and anyone who thinks otherwise is naive.
>>541896048This is actually a high iq post. Rare novadays. Laws should be utilitarian not abstract Kantian morality based
>my dog savaged your kid because it's got worms in its brain and is completely rabid>ah well that explains it, it'd just be cruel to put it down, knowing that!
>>541898220Akkor igyunk egy kupica pálinkát az egészségedre, kedves barátom!
>>541898177Slippery slope retardism. You could be labeled as mentally insane for something that was normal for 99% of human history, like talking to a 17 years old girl and be locked up forver to ""keep society safe"".Keep in mind society is mostly made up of retarded man hating feminists and self hating male feminists. Why do you have their interests in mind are you one of them?
she's not legally insane, she perfectly understood what she was doing. she also never "heard a voice" she's just completely making it up to get a lighter sentence. and you simps are falling for it.
>>541898308You spoke against the feminist man-hating new world order? It says right here in the new DSM 7 that you are mentally insane. Locked up forever or put down which one you want? We gotta keep women safe you know?
>>541896048The law is about the government displaying its power by using the state apparatus to torture and kill people who violate its rules. Giving the state more power to lock people up based on relative definitions of sanity or insanity is retarded.
>>541896048That's a peculiar nose.
>>541898496Exactly, especially since feminists have been in control of society at least since 1960 with no end in sight. Giving feminists more power over you is ridiculous.
justice for the action
>>541896048I agree with everything you said - although I believe an insane person CAN learn from her mistakes and become an even more prolific and effective killer.
>>541898496When you want to lock up unhinged child murderers suddenly it's about government overreach. You guys are truly insane.
>>541898373She's a full-blown sadistic psychopath, and we've now learned that creatures in USA prefer mass murderers who kill babies and toddlers instead of those who kill adults.
>>541896048It's really simple.Murder you get the Death PenaltyCrazy Murder you get the Death PenaltyAttempted Murder you get the Death PenaltyIt's just that easy.
>>541896048She shouldn't serve a sentence. She should be burned as a witch. But she'll get off light and this will radicalize men in a way that hasn't been seen in an age. Bitches are about to have a serious problem on their hands.
>>541896048honestly I hope the jury (9 women / 3 men) will find her NOT guilty, so there'll be a legal precedent about women being too irrational to make important life decisions and being too unreliable to function in society.if your hormones fuck you up that badly, that you end up killing all three of your kids, then you shouldn't be able to vote, you should be able to drive, you shouldn't be able to sign a contract and you definitely shouldn't be able to occupy any position of power.
>>541900473Hey! No no no thats not what they wanted. Kek, wold be great. Wont happen.World is a matriarchy. Read Esther. Jewess spilled it all. Real redpill. Its women. They are real jews.
>>541897726This law still exists in the Philippines. If a man catches his wife or daughter in the heat of the moment, he could kill her and only face exile from his neighbourhood/area.
>>541900473>if your hormones fuck you up that badly, that you end up killing all three of your kidsHormones, psychosis etc. it's still HER brain and thus what's on HER mind, she hasn't had a brain transplantation from a deceased donor psychopath - NON-psychopaths don't have murdering their children on their mind, this idea simply don't exist in their brain.
>>541896048"Post-partum psychosis" conveniently only lasts for a short time frame though, then they are back to normal. It's obvious bullshit.
>>541901394"Postpartum depression" is just one of the many fake diseases invented to hide and excuse women's horrible behaviors.Just like SIDS is a cover to allow women to murder their infant children and get away with it.
>>541900473>9 women in the juryThis witch is gonna walk free, guaranteed.
>>541896048A mentally healthy person can also understand that they need to take responsibility for their mistakes and pay their dues.
>>541903581does the disease exist in a random tribal village in the amazon, do the amish get it?if not then it is not real, rule of thumbbreaking your arm? realcancer? realheart attack? real
>>541896048There still is kinda some woman in there.It is sad.
>>541903752>does the disease exist in a random tribal village in the amazon, do the amish get it?>if not then it is not real, rule of thumbAlso means autism isn't real. It's heavy metal poisoning from vaccines and environmental pollutants absorbed in utero.
>>541903806Maybe she didnt want to go to jewish daycare with all the plates already being filled.
>>541903937It would be kinda unfair to just blame it on the jews (man do i hate those lawyers man do i hate you nyc fag). It is because she had to work and already had three kids at least that is some part.
If you commit a crime you're mentally ill by definition -- mental illness shouldn't even be in the discussion. The only thing that matters is whether you did something wrong vs right under the laws in effect. Doesn't matter if you're a retard or a psycho genius
>>541896048What do you mean by aggravating?I think you're right in that after the sentence is over, her mental illness isn't cured. She can't ever go back to be a nurse, if there's risk she'll murder a baby at a whim due to a random flare up.But if she's sane, she basically murdered 3 children because she doesn't value life, she just thought it was funny, probably a way to get back at her husband for some argument or whatever. You know how women hate losing an argument. A person like that can't ever come back in society. It's far worse than being crazy.
>>541896048Mentally ill murderers get locked up just like sane ones, they just go to "hospitals" where they are experimented on until they die.
>>541896048Double punishment for the same crime is not permitted so no.However you can just make the two into one; de-facto incarcerate her in a mental institute.What it is de jure is up to you, but that part rarely really matters to reality.
>>541904174But mental illness is a dysfunction. A mentally ill person is dangerous because the person isn't reasoning, the crazy person does not understand their surroundings and often the condition comes and goes, a crazy person isn't necessarily crazy 24 hours 7 days a week.A sane person who commits a crime is different they are, perfectly aware, they can plan, and understand what they are doing. They can calculate the risk and cost of what they are doing and determine they can get away with it, as she is evidently trying to.
white women are well dressed africans
>>541896048John Hinkley, who shot President Reagan, never had to serve any time in prison. He spent most of his life in mental health treatment facilities, never facing criminal punishment for his crime that happened in the 1980s. In the current environment, no way a woman gets harsher treatment than a sexual deviant from the 80s that shot the president.
>>541896048Wisdom of the ancient Avars
If your child got lost in a forest, who would you rather find it first, a bear or a White woman?
Most world leaders and rich people could be easily diagnosed with being fucked in the head and locked up for life, the reason this doesn't happen isn't related to their brains being healthy (they're not)
>>541896048I tend to agree. While the whole "criminal responsibility" thing is certainly a huge question, nobody really seems to care about the implications of letting people like this out into society afterward and making them everyone else's problem. That's how you get that dead woman in NYC. If you can't exist without posing a risk of harm to random people you should be mercy killed.
>>541896048I think they should just be executed, and none of this>50 years on death rowshit, just bullet in the head after the trial.
