If fascist dictators were so great, why did they abolish elections? If they were actually as great as they presented themselves, shouldn’t they have continued to win elections, since people would generally support them if they had truly made the lives of the general public better?Thieves, scoundrels, and other criminals fear only the truth and the law. I have never seen an honest man fear either, for he knows that there is nothing to fear.Why did they need to suppress the free speech of the general public if they were so great? Nay, I have never seen an honest man fear free speech; it is only criminals who seek to suppress it.There was a time in the Roman Republic when people spoke what they thought and thought what they spoke, and it was a great time. Leaders existed for the people, and not the people for their leaders.
If communist dictators were so great, why did they abolish elections? If they were actually as great as they presented themselves, shouldn’t they have continued to win elections, since people would generally support them if they had truly made the lives of the general public better?
>>541900418I hate communism, though.not everyone who opposes tyrannical systems like fascism is a communist.
Fascists value loyalty over competence. They end up surrounded by obsequious weasels who feed them lies and useless forecasts. Disaster inevitably follows. Dark enlightenment toads will never produce a compelling philosopher king. The DE vision fails to inspire.
>>541900354If I were focusing on helping my people and defeating world jewry I would rather not be distracted by an election with a high verbal IQ rival using every form of public manipulation and gaslighting in the book (and probably receiving money from world jewry under the table).In the original Greek democracy it was something like only ethnic Greek men who owned land and had been in the military could vote, that's kind of democracy I would consider, but the current one I would abolish.
>>541900354It inherited the roman system. A dictator was put in charge for a year in times of crisis than after crisises became bigger guys like Sulla and Caesar declared themselves dicator for life so that's what they did too. Learn some history before talking memeflag amerimutt/jeet/kike
>>541900946The problem is that there is no way of removing you from power if you’re actually not helping the people or fulfilling your promises. What’s the guarantee that you will do what you said if you’re a dictator? How can I, as an average person, entrust my fate to a dictator when I don’t know whether he will follow through on his promises or not? Many dictators around the world have promised that they would improve people’s lives, but few have fulfilled those promises, and no sane person would gamble with their life and country.Remember how Trump presented himself as anti-establishment, and how his supporters claimed that he would fight the jews, but it turned out that he was another raped kikeslave. I don’t think any sane /pol/ user would continue supporting dictatorship after a betrayal like this.
>>541900354fascist dictators are liars that say nice stuff and then make people their slave army>hey, Germany, vote for me and I am going to fix your lives!>gets voted into office>no more elections for you anymore, sorry, they are Jewish>and now off you go to die in millions under Stalingrad>and if you refuse, you gonna face he wallaround 1942 half of Germany wanted to tear Hitler apart, he would not have scored even 10% in elections. in Italy they got so fucking angry they did tear Duce apart and hung his remains. do you think he would have done well in elections?
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>>541900354at least they were electedthe commies always force their way into power
>>541900418Akshually they didn't. There were ""elections"" except you didn't have much choice.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_Soviet_Union
>>541902253I said it here>>541900480And,I am saying it again,I do not support communism
>>541900354>why did they abolish elections?Take a walk in any mayor Western Europe city.
>>541900354Democracy is a horrid system that affords voters no benefit. They have zero power but they are made to believe that their single voice that never gets acknowledged is meaningful. By participating in elections, the way you exercise political power is by putting the paper in the box, which is to say, not at all. Taking action outside of that system (the SA and SS were examples of this before someone brings up Hitler) might actually do something but that isnt allowed in democracy.Political expression amongst ordinary people is genuinely higher in China, high level officials occasionally get executed for overstepping their authority.For reference, disagreement with Hitler was common, saying otherwise is just a lie.
>>541901723How do you remove Jared Kushner, the Soros family and Chuck 'my job is to ensure support for Israel' Schumer from power?
>>541902591Abolish party politics. That's it.By abolishing party politics, these parasites who use great republics to pursue their own interests can be removed from power. Party politics undermines the purpose of republican government. Parties have centralized structures, which make it easier for different interest groups to turn their preferred policies into reality, whereas this would be harder in a decentralized political structure because interest groups cannot simply infiltrate a party's central leadership, which is usually based in the capital. Moreover, parties can easily manipulate or indoctrinate the masses.I know modern liberal democracy isn't an attractive system anymore, but that doesn't mean we have to put a tyrannical dictatorship in power. What is needed is reform.Fuck the kikes.TKD
>>541902877Theres a reason party politics came put in the first place and its that the strategy is superior in democracy. Working as a collective is superior to working as individuals. I dont know whats so attractive about mass democracy anyway. Theres an intermediate step between "everyone has equal power via the ballot box" (this will never be true) and "one man stands as a representative of God and rules by fiat (democracy is kind of like this when you replace God by 'the collective will'). It is not the duty of the ordinary man to have a say in politics
>>541900354Because democracy is trash.
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>>541900354Because democratic process itself is cancer, it's bunch of intrest groups fighting each other and splitting the country.
>>541900354Roman republic sucked dick
>>541900354>If fascist dictators were so great, why did they abolish elections?Because their idea of 'great' is less about majority support and more about just forcing their will onto things and despising anything else as weakness. Force and fraud are components in all stripes of fascism.
>>541903171>(democracy is kind of like this when you replace God by 'the collective willFuck off, idiot. You can measure the will of the people with votes, one loose dingbat announcing he speaks for God is in no way similar.
>>541902272>electedOnly through heavy astroturfing from the army
>>541900354>If they were actually as great as they presented themselves, shouldn’t they have continued to win elections, since people would generally support them if they had truly made the lives of the general public better?Are you saying people can be trusted to vote in their own best interests? because that is an egregious presumption.
>>541905250Do you know how profoundly ignorant the average voter is? Do you understand how incredibly unqualified he is to elect a leader to address issues he is essentially incapable of understanding?
>>541905323your assumption is that the 'will of the people' is in accordance with your views and beneficial to the 'peoples' well being.I wouldn't trust you dumb fucks to screw in a light bulb, much less vote.
>>541905129Elections are metaphysically similar to coronations. Both are legitimisation ceremonies. Blue Tie beat Red Tie in the contest of democracy so he embodies the will of the people. To go against him is to go against all of us and whatever he does he does with the blessings of all of us. Blue Tie is evil? Then you all deserve to be punished.This is the retardation of democracy. Who Blue Tie and Red Tie are and how they were eligible to become candidates at all is decided by "the system"Its also laughable to think that you, as one 18millionth of the total electorate have any meaningful say whatsoever.
>>541902591why you vote in AOC, Zohran mamdani, or any other young radical (brown) socialist who wants to flood with even more shitskins the few remaining unflooded towns.
>>541905503They make you a participant in your own victimization. Anything your leader does, they are never held responsible. You are held complicit in their failure because you 'chose' to participate in democracy and abide by the results. But you didn't 'chose' anything.
>>541900354if 99% of people have same values do we need elections?
>>541905637democracy is foisted upon you, at no point was any alternative ever presented as legitimate. They claim their mandate stems from the will of the people but the peoples will is never heard or expressed, and when it is, it rarely paints a flattering portrait of 'the people'
>>541905637This is the logic of Neocon bombings and the mass terror bombings in WWII. It's the Iranians' fault that they have a government declared evil by the American democracy for not replacing it.There were postwar posters in Germany saying "This is your fault" above pictures of the camp inmates who starved because of allied attacks on the supply lines.
>>541905735When your mother tells you, "If everyone jumped off a bridge, would you do it too?" Its common sense, but when the same principle is applied to government, thats totalitarianism.
>>541900354This question is the heights of stupidity^^I mean even a deaf and blind monkey could anser you why a formerly jewish brainwashed country has too much ignorants, morons and degenerates that would never vote for a radical change, cause it COULD be that they lose ground and their habits for degnerated behaviour..but no wonder, op is a jew^^
You cannot ever do anything radical because of elections. There's no way to make progress
>>541900354>Thieves, scoundrels, and other criminals fear only the truth and the law. I have never seen an honest man fear either, for he knows that there is nothing to fear.Speaking your nonsense is illegal there, so shut your nigger little bastard mouth and follow the law honest faggot.Couple missing teeth you'd live up to your own retarded af bullshit.Your entire premise is flowery trash, the law doesn't mean shit as some necessity and it's a conglomerate pile of excrement written by niggers that are long dead and wrong, conniving lazy pilpuling jews, and conniving lazy pilpuling jews that are long dead and wrong.Bastiat is a nigger.>>541902877>abolish muh party>"I lean on the red side of things">"I lean on the blue side of things">you>"You can't say that, you can't say that you need a 4 hour dissertation worth of espounding your every stance!">Yeah ok nigger sure, anyway if you support my blue stuff give me money to reach more people but it's not like a party or anything baka.>"You can't do that, you can't do that!"Yeah ok nigger, sweet vapid and entirely vaporous stances you got there on everything you've said. >>541906293This.People elected Thune, Biden, Pelosi, Lindsey Graham and all the rest of these niggers, and there was no rule of the universe one that they had to and couldn't get off their lazy fat-fuck ass and voot for someone else.And anyone saying every election ever is just made up is a mentally retarded bastard, no nigger they won. People cast a ballot for these retards, because they Are retards.This is democracy.A bunch of stupid motherfuckers that reelect miserable af leadership again and again, because their too stupid and sheepish to do anything but reelect the like 2-3 names they spend like 4 minutes per half-decade placing a thought toward, and thinking either this nigger is going to give me free shit or reduce my tax shekel amount.Democracy is a nigger and hokey shit like banning parties doesn't mean a damn thing.
>>541906502People think they can exercise political power through the ballot box. This is a deliberate trap to contain emotion and appetite for change, since they wheel out a new face for the white genocide machine and suddenly its fine
>>541900354Rome was evil and corrupt as shit, it practiced slavery, shit on the poor and committed endless and pointless wars and atrocities for its own vain glory.You speak of Rome as if you knew anything about it.
>>541906815yeah because "they" and "new face" gets backed by people by default why wouldn't they, can't get people to not eat up presented slop and at least backed behind some figure with a plurality of social support, you're probably not throwing some violent revolution, it's just sour grapes thenThey don't have to steal power or steal elections when all they need to do is just take them like an entitlement.
>>541900354>If fascist dictators were so great, why did they abolish elections?iirc Hitler did notZelensky did, maybe you mixed both
>>541900354Elections always lead to Jews being in charge.
>>541900354Hitler didntIts not well known but there were elections in the reichThey invented this myth of an oppressive dictatorship because if they showed elections they'd see 99% of the people were happy and kept voting for him and his policies
>>541910814They sometimes mention it and say that its because he banned the other parties. Really though, the elections were a farce and he should have just done away with them altogether
>>541901883>fascist dictators are liars*politicians
>>541900354This is rooted in liberal ideology that elections somehow "prove" a leader is good. They are not liberals and do not abide by this ideology and neither are their followers.
