>Warnings coming from every direction about food scarcity in the coming years>Mods love deleting threads about preparing to deal with food shortagesDo you think they're aware of how much blood they'll have on their hands?
>>541921039we have too much food
>>541922532If we have "too much" food, why does buying groceries hurt the wallet so much? Massive oversupply reduces prices.
>>541921039We can still always eat the weak people. You are dumb if you think humans will not adapt.
>>541923458>Growing plants and raising livestock are stupid, you should just become a ghoulish monster who contracts kuru instead of planning ahead!
you can eat less fatty
Yeah, the time to plant perennials was last year. Start NOW NOW NOW, if you haven’t. Maybe you’ll scrape something together in the meantime. If one doesn’t heed this warning, they have only themselves to blame for their folly
>>541923592>Food costs accounting for more and more of your cost of living is totally fine because some people are fat! Who cares if people starve to death?
>>541921039Man I love sumac
>>541921039got a tree in a home depot bucked been producing berries every 3 months for 2 years IDW ... even in winter ... but only the darkest very ripe berries are sweet , I do my own compost and add new compost every 6 months.... any tips for bigger and sweet berries ? ;3
Just fatmaxx like me when the times are good and take a long nap through WW3
>>541921039>food shortagesJust two more weeks! Post pics with timestamp of all your stored food.
>>541923652Don't forget to mention that fall is the best time to plant most perennials. This fall I'm planting two American plums, another American persimmon cultivar and a 100% pure red mulberry
>>541923652I've been making threads about this for the past few growing seasons. Hopefully enough people took the warning to heart to make a difference.>>541923697Those are mulberries, but sumac is pretty cool, too. Very pretty plant. Makes for a great lemonade-ish beverage.
>>541923549I mean when absolutely all options are exhausted. by pushing environment shit they inflate prices of food artificially. Does not matter if you can farm, you will not afford it!
>>541921039dude lmao
>>541923752In germany we have a name for that, petz.
>>541923752A person requires ~1,000,000 Calories per year.1 lb of body fat contains ~3,500 Calories.To last 1 year on just body fat (not accounting for the higher basal metabolic rate of being overweight) would require ~286 lbs of body fat.WW1 lasted 4 years and WW2 lasted 6 (with food rationing lasting well over a decade thereafter in places). You cannot pack on enough fat to survive the whole war.
>>541923788The more calories you grow for yourself, the longer you can last before losing all your humanity by having to resort to things like killing someone for a can of beans or *literally eating people*.
>>541922687because we destroy it to control prices
>>541923754Food storage alone isn't feasible. You need to be able to resupply on a regular basis.To have enough calories to last JUST one year for JUST one person would require ~1,700 lbs of rice.
>>541923957>A person requires ~1,000,000 Calories per year.I'm pretty sure that the standard is that a 21 year old girl who only walks about 30 minutes a day needs 2 million caloriesbut maybe in jeetland, where you come from, it's different
Just grow potatoes and beans.
>>541923752https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yJfNY_p9Xk
>>5419243692,500 calories per day for 365 days is 912,500.If you have anything more than a sedentary lifestyle, it'll be more. 1 million calories is a conservative figure if you're farming.
>>541923780>>541923787You’re doing God’s work, bless you
>>541924417This method isn't worthwhile. Your best bet for potatoes is the "no till" method.Far less time and effort invested.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6wYMLGJEjk
>>541924494oh so you meant 1 million KILOcalories a yearI thought you meant a day
>>541924613Who the fuck uses the small calorie for food???
>>541924677we on the old continent, nigger
>>541924754That's fucking retarded.
>>541924792there are not many things to be retarded about over here, unfortunatelyso we make do
>>541924859You mean aside from destroying nuclear reactors, paving over farmland to put up solar panels that fucking suck, covering up crimes committed by migrants and acting smug because you're not allowed to own guns?
>>541924969>covering up crimes committed by migrantsthat's the UK we on mainland europe import so many violent "immigrants" that crime ain't even an issue, but a lifestyle
>>541921039>Food is scarce>Surrounded by rivers and lakes full of fish>Woods full of deer and boar>Trees full of squirrels >Rabbits everywhere>Fruit trees all over the place>Yard full of SunchokesI guess if you are in a city you are fucked though. Just eat the niggers. They are genetically different enough you probably won't even get negative health effects from doing so as long as you cook the STDs out of them.
>>541924969https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companion_plants
>>541924969https://old.reddit.com/r/berlinsocialclub/comments/1w5ckrz/fuck_berlin/
>>541925067Many animals almost went extinct during the Great Depression from overhunting/fishing.
>>541924417>potatoes and beansthe container method is ackshually the besthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb71fC6x9d4
>>541921039What fucking shortages lol. Every major country overproduces food to the ridiculous degree. The only ones who's gonna starve are indians and niggers in africa, both acceptable casualties.
>>541924466I m fan of this fag, never change.
>>541925091I don't have a reddit account.
>>541925212What are you going to do about these?
>>541925212A bit of feeding.
>>541925275I dug up and old one I only use to speak to freemasons and and it's a deleted post anyway so don't bother >>541925091
>>541925360BrosImagine the milk
>>541925348Plant safe insecticidal soap is a good option. It makes them suffocate to death. There may also be plants that deter them that you can plant alongside your main crop. Nasturtiums are a good option for a lot of bugs. Aside from being inexpensive and pretty to look at, they're also edible.
>>541922687We are competing with governments buying for deep storage. Why every product has the lowest grade possible inputs.
>>541925540For their footsoldiers, not to feed you. Important distinction.
>>541925468>Plant safe insecticidal soapThat doesn't tell me much, unfortunately. What is the active ingredient?Nasturtiums are nice, but my viability is about 10% in irrigated containers and around zero in the field.
>>541921039You vill eats ze bugs
>>541925609Insecticidal soaps are made using castile soap (made from fatty acids). You can buy it premade or look up a recipe for yourself.
>>541921039Growing plants and foraging is such a funny thing because the only people that can actually do it for real beyond larping are just plant lovers. Like you have to be obsessed with plants. Those people usually don't even care that much about this survivalist homesteading stuff. Most of the stuff they grow are just cool plants they like not even "useful" plants. Meanwhile the homesteaders, preppers, survivalists etc. love the idea of using the plants but usually don't know enough about plants because they are approaching it backwards from the result first.
>>541925777I'll have it made for me. Thank you for the tip.I extremely doubt its efficacy, given that it looks like a simple surfactant with no specific activity against bugs. I'll try it.Checked.
As a rural farmer anon who used to be a city boy until last year>inb4 shitskin turd world who cares lolAnons in the city, get the fuck out, the world is heading towards collapse. Especially if you are not a first worlder, fellow third worlder anons, get out of the cities fast, once society collapses criminals and cartels will eat you alive. Of you are first world you might survive depending on nation desu, despite all your racist stupidity against minorities, minorities in first world nations actually act decent and cooperative.
>>541925975I like to focus on perennials specifically because they're less intensive. Everything I put in the ground serves a function.If you're in the right zone for it, I strongly recommend getting some wintergreen. Aside from smelling/tasting great, it's also a natural NSAID.
>>541921039Personally, I took your advice and bought hazelnuts for high-calorie high-protein food. Gonna buy some more and a few more thornless blackberries as soon as I have the spare cash and time to get them in the ground and get deer fences up.First priority is to find another decent-sized plum tree. My two are supposed to be cross-pollinators and they should have fruited this year, but didn't.Also been clearing a swath of thorned blackberry thicket out to make room for more fruit and hazelnut trees.
>>541926026Imagine trying to breathe if your lungs were full of soap.
>>541924318>JUST one year for JUST one person would require ~1,700 lbs of rice.That's more rice than a Grand Sumo wrestler eats in a year, and for all these years making this shitty thread, if you believed food shortages were right around the corner you'd have put a little food by that you could show pics with timestamp of.Fist-bump a train you fucking dalit.
>>541926145Very nice, Anon. Make sure to get multiple varieties that are ripe at different times so you don't have to harvest/process everything at once.
>>541921039Mate it’s fucking impossible to live off food you grow yourself without insane amounts of pro farmer inside tricks. We have a fully grown cherry tree which has never given any fruit. This year there were flowers everywhere, then huge clusters of small green balls, not one produced a fucking cherry, or if they did, the goddamn squirrels had every one before I could even see one ripen. How are we meant to even begin with this shit?
>>541926297Netting is a good way to prevent animals from getting them, but just a friendly reminder that squirrels are edible.If you plant a mulberry tree, that'll attract most of the critters, so they'll be less likely to go after your other plants.
>>541921039That's a goated plant indeed, there's one still living and bearing fruit in my great-great-grand father's home's yard(even though it's in a deserted part of cr*atia with noone living for miles around)
>>541926115I mean I don't get into the annuals because I hate the process. You harrow up a spot, weed, spray, fertilize, water then pick and then do it again twice a year. It is such a drag and long term it is a very poor use of time imho. Now perennials are a bit different. I have a fairly large little native tree orchard. Most of the fruit goes to waste though I just like the process and the blooms. Plus a couple dozen mature pecans and most of those go to waste also. Some mature citrus that produces hundreds of lbs of oranges and grapefruits half of it goes to waste. But I spend alot of my time just landscaping with desirable hardwoods from the woods. Collecting seeds, transplanting stuff. Air layering stuff I like etc. I especially like starting colonies of rare ephemerals. Right now I have been on a big kick growing large quantities of native ornamental bunch grasses to plant in big swathes. The only sort of crop type perennial I keep is a a fairly large sugar cane patch. Again I usually don't do anything with it. It is just sort of a regional traditional sort of thing. In fact tending to it is a major chore I wish I never grew it sometimes.
>>541926214you need like a lot less than an acre per person per year if you do strictly plant based diet (oats, sourdough, potatoes, legumes and veg)
>>541926645I don't recommend this.At the VERY LEAST you should be raising some chickens.
>>541923549Just don't eat the brain/thymus/thyroid/spine/tonsils. You'll be safe from Kuru prions.
>>541926645Post pics of your acre farm with timestamp.
>>541923729Get it better light exposure. More leaves getting hit with the light will increase its total sugar concentration. If you're having trouble with over-exposure you can try a couple of hours during the plant's "noon" of increased intensity.
>>541924417This method has been long deboonked, you can increase your yield by maybe 20% if you hill them one time but that's about it
>>541921039jews fear the indoor farm farmersetup is using 1/3 lexan trays and kratky mineral watering and fertigation in a peat/coir/crystals/perlite/bt mix. working great so far as a starter room and grow room. lights run ~1000 brightness with more towards red for 12/12 schedule. working on a float tank auto-watering system atm.next summer should be able to feed myself on 1/3 acre outside with this room running herbs and starting perennial food plants for spring transplant as full adult plants.
>>541921039jews also fear the outdoor farm farmer.picrel is the first year running a full matted yard with grow bags and ground plants. the ground plants are started in the grow room and usually get to ~12 inches tall before going outside. the plan is to get a canopy going and vine berry plants in the ground with perennial grow bags around. fertigation system, etc etc etc...I'll chat with any other anons wanting to setup the same.
>>541921039They will just put us in a war and force everyone into rationing through martial law. No one will do shit because they won't want to lose.
>>541926297While I don't get into the survivalist thing... understand, fruit would never be able to actually help that much in one of these survival scenarios. At most you could get a few weeks off of each species or variety. So yeah if you staggered what you are growing across a couple dozen species/varieties maybe you could have something coming in every couple weeks until November. But even then you dont get any fat or protein. Also most fruit trees with some exceptions are disease prone and not particularly long lived or healthy. To actually depend on them youd need a sizable number in rotation at different phases/ages. The woods will always grow more fruit than yiu coukd ever grow anyways. Now nuts are a different thing. Pecan for example has alot of potential. Extremely fatty. Could be stored for many months. Fairly long lived. But besides some nut trees, most fruit growing is nothing more than a little treat here and there not something you coukd ever survive on.
>>541927371do you plant to pots later
>>541927389This is why I've been pushing hazelnuts hard for the past few years. They take very little time to get established compared to most other nuts. 2 trees give enough calories to last 1/6th of the year on their own and have a good shelf life (even better if you freeze them).
>>541921039Good damn those berries look good as shit.
>>541927562Mulberries are delicious. It's one of those foods that, if you aren't careful, you'll eat ENTIRELY TOO MANY and regret it the next day.
Pemmican will last over 10 years if stored in a cool dry place. Pemmican is so logistically powerful that Europeans destroyed the American Bison herds to bring the Pemmican-makers to heel. Pemmican from killing a herd of Bison could be sold across the planet despite being made deep in the North American interior 400 years ago with zero refrigeration or exogenous curing methods for the bison meat.Pemmican is the most powerful foodstuff in existence. It can be produced from any type of animal or animal product including: eggs, poultry, fish, fish roe, shellfish, insects, and of course beef/lamb/bison/horse/pork.If you're using non-mammals you're going to need another source of fat to complete the pemmican and seal it.
>>541927449my plan is to keep something in a grow bag for a few seasons. I have ~800 sqft of indoor storage in addition to setting up the christmas light canopy thing to keep the planted ones warm over winter.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2rrf0iuULQfor long term, I plan on making a concrete potters wheel like a vertical lathe and make a bunch like vidrel. maybe I'll make a fiberglass mold instead, who knows. either way, concrete planters are the cheapest and best long term option.
A reminder to thank Luther Burbank for Horticultural Excellence!
>>541927619>Pemmican will last over 10 years if stored in a cool dry place.Post pics of your pemmican with timestamp.
>>541927619Pemmican is what fueled the Coureurs des Bois as they made the trek across the continent, trading furs. It was the main source of income for the Métis.
>>541927786>Every single post in thread is asking people for timestamped picsGlowie.
>>541923752can this guy even catch food at this point. he's obviously dumpster diving and has given up on forest life completely.
>>541927720I hope to hybridise Myosotis macrantha with Myosotis pulvinaris to get Myosotis × insula on Bouvet Island from South Island, New Zealand Stock!
>>541927808Are you Michif?
>>541928050I'm part aboriginal, but I have only ever been treated as white.
>>541928117If Anglophone that makes you Countryborn.
>>541928117>part aboriginalcool. rare to meet anoither abbo/white. what mix are you?
>>541928228We're all bilingual here.
>>541928231I don't want to give out too many details here, but I'm out in Eastern Canada, so...
>>541928316>too many detailsit's ok, I can see your file here on Eglinopedia. besides, I was just chucklefucking you. it gets boring as fuck in the countermemetics department at work and I needed to fuck around a bit. only my turdcutter is abbo, the rest is white up to my green eyes. sort like saying someone is half Saggitarian.anyway, keep posting anons. we need the data.
>>541921039Those be some fine lookin mulberries.
>>541926408>mulberrynice tip anon. my cherry tree has been struggling with fruit but i think it has been drought conditions and it is a bit too big. gonna prune it a bunch this fall/winter. same with the blueberry bushes.
>>541928630There's a reason I suggest it in every thread.They produce fruit like MAD.
The problem with mulberry is in the woods they way they grow you will never be about to reach 90% of the fruit. As far as wild fruits go though they are not terrible.
>>541928262Rupert's Land had tonnes of languages spoken at one point, English, French, Scots, Cree, Ojibwa and the various Dene languages further west.
>>541926849its behind a 3 floor building , only gets sun from 6 am to 12 pm ... thx u senpai :3
the greentext you never asked for>English heritage here. >Was drinking and talking which got to arguing with a drunk woman from a reservation nearby (Anishinaabe/Ojibwe).>She was going on about colonial oppression and how bad they had it from the Europeans. >Then I recalled how her tribal ancestors were tortured, cannibalized, enslaved, forcefully-integrated, and driven hundreds of kilometers out of their lands.>"how does it feel that your true oppressors also claim benefits from the European government, sharing equal status with your tribes?">She started a banshee wail, throwing stuff at me and, had to be restrained.
>>541928982The Algonquins were nearly wiped out in a genocide conducted by the Iroquois. They survived by taking refuge in French settlements...
>>541928982Truth be told in the early years before John. A. MacDonald, things were more egalitarian, yet less woke too, how is that and why no-more? Back in the 1700s Beaver was worth Beaver.
>>541929114This is true, other Iroquoian tribes not of the league were wiped out like the Neutrals and many Wendat too.
>>541929114Indeed, the Iroquois made trophies like dinnerware out of the skulls of children.
>>541924177humanity is overrated
>>541924417>famine>having seed potatoesAnon, I...
>>541929507Algonquians rightly consider cannibals tainted.
>>541922532We have too many thirdies you mean.
>>541928696>madgood on you anon. any particular variety(s) to consider? i live in the northeast tri state area
>>541925212I have had the same problem with click beetles tearing up my potatoes in the ground. Also voles chewing them up as well. This year I switched to only buckets and got plenty of potatoes so far with zero problems. They are SO easy to grow.
>>541926297Squirrels are also edible anon
>>541923957The average person needs 2200 calories a day while maintaining normal activity levels.The average person can lose one pound A WEEK by consuming 500 calories less than the average every day. The average north American can lose 52lbs just to have a normal,ie healthy bmi.That means the AVERAGE north American can consume 1500 calories a day, ~500000 calories in a year and they'll only be a healthier version of themselves. That's why they made you all get clot shotted. Famine will only kill the 3rd world. Boost up cunts. Things will only get worse, until the improve into a garden of eden, the one you forsook by being a complient slave.
>>541930216Mulberries like zones 4-8. I would recommend the black ones, generally. Check out your local plant nursery, as they would know best what grows well in your particular area.
>>541923780I have 5 fruit trees to plant this weekend.
>>541930832 I lost two this year to a terrible fungus I've been fighting for 5 years. The new shoots should take off once I cut the mains down.
>>541931699Do your research on the fungus. Surely you will find a cheap home-remedy even if it means manually debridement of the infected surface.
>>541921039How can food that hasn't been grown yet be scarce? You sound like a scaremonger.
>>541931831Did. It's a death sentence type thing in apple trees, once it's in, pretty much over. It gets into every layer of wood to the heart. Chop them down, and let the new growth go. Amazing they kept fruiting for as long as they did.
>>541923668Actually food costs are consuming less and less of my disposable income because my salary is rising far quicker than food prices.Sucks for the poors desu.
>>541932179>Legislation that applies pressure to farmers>Cost of materials necessary for farming>War destroying farm lands and making international trade more difficult/expensive>>541932341And as history shows, poor people being hungry NEVER EVER EVER has any effect on wealthy people.>"Let them eat cake"-ass commentLOL
>>541923752Bad idea, you'll be killed in your sleep.
>>541921039>food scarcityHave you seen the average American? Or even the average White Canadian? Food scarcity would do both our countries good. The fats would lose weight and the sickly browns in yours would die.
>>541922532We have too much "food."
More people will die from dirty contaminated water than starvation. I kind of think the key is to avoid the maddened herd until it thins out. Every day you survive is a day for the herd to thin and the maddened herd will thin quickly. The emergency could be brought about by a collapse in the purchasing power of the US$. It seems like America is overdue for a hyperinflationary collapse. If the power grid collapses very quickly police, fire and EMT's will stop working in most municipalities. Water, sewage and sanitation will stop. Every road and interstate highway will be blocked with abandoned / wrecked vehicles. The best course of action is to do what you can to insulate yourself and your family from the effects of a collapse in the purchasing power of the US $. - Remote quality productive land with a clean water source- Quality firearms and ammunition. Firearms and ammunition are proving to be as good a hedge against inflation as anything else. There is no reason not to own a quality AR or AK pattern rifle, a quality shotgun and a quality pistol. You should have 1,000 rounds of ammo for each long gun and 500 rounds of ammo for each pistol you own. Rice, beans, sugar, honey and many grains store well for a long time. They are cheap to purchase in bulk and will help your family survive while the maddened herd thins out.
>>541933527To say honey stores well is an understatement. There are jars of honey thousands of years old that are perfectly edible.
>>541921039>food scarcityFood runs around on two legs. Help yourself.
>>541934847This has already been discussed, ghoul.
>>541934896>ghoulHuh? What do you mean?
>>541922687>weYou agreeing to statehood there, Leaf?You'll start a territory and see from there.
>>541934789Ferment garlic in your honey. Takes a few weeks to a couple of months, you get an amazing garlic infused honey which is an antibiotic, probiotic and also an amazing salad dressing and cooking ingredient for many sauces and dressings.It's incredibly simple to make. Most honey ferments are simple but this one is braindead. Peel the cloves, fill a jar, cover it in honey and turn/burn the jar daily for the first week or two(only really really important the first 3-5 days). Also incredibly important that you get "organic"(grow it yourself it's easy) garlic and make friends with some beekeeper so you get "organic" honey("organic" is a kike scam but any fitness fad is based because it bleeds upper middle class city parasites so whatever).People underestimate medicine in prepper scenarios, ferment various combinations of the following in honey for a better "med kit" you wanna prepare:ginger, lemon, turmeric, garlic, peppers,eggs.Take this a level further with medicinal herbs, start with rosemary as a MUST, freestyle from there(I'm still figuring this shit out)
>>541935502>burnburp the jar, obviously(lactiofermentation->CO2 buildup)
>>541921039Dude, I live in southern Brazil, in one of the most fertile places of a very fertile country, dad owns a farm and no one will ever attack this country, I will never starve.I will be eating meat and drinking beer until I die. Sometimes it's nice to live in a shit hole, think about me when you pay one dollar for each egg.
>>541928424How's it at eglin, tranny boy?Also, my house just has a papaya tree and some tomato sprouts (different parts of the house so as to not get wiped out by pests)
>>541935003In Algonquian belief (Arguably true) once you eat Person you basically repudiate your Personhood, basically become a Ghoul or in the very least a Prion infected maniac.
>>541921039It doesn't matter. Nature is healing and the population will be driven under 2 billion to save the species.
>>541935657You know favela trash coming out of starving cities will target you first.
>>541935657Dude if US collapses, we lose one of our main onions buyers. And if Europe then collapses as a result of NATO falling to shit, another blow to our economy. There is also sincere to god jews invading our lesser neighbours.
>>541935657If you don't have at least one gun per person in your household, you're going to have a really bad time.
>>541936290I'm kinda fucked myself. Live a couple dozen feet of the tail end of a favela. It is a two-story house with a metal gate (there isn't shit on the first floor to steal) and maybe the barbed wire can dissuade the niggers from trying to raid my family. We don't really own much in terms of arms though. Best I have is a hammer or a meat-knife to try and defend my older family members.Yes I know I'm fucked.
>>541936572'Off.
>>5419361882 billion Africans, Asians and Arabs you mean, whiteys gonna disappear like a fart in the wind
>>541936633Checked. Ideally 500 million, the collapse of the European population will devastate the rest of the third world who only grew as large as they are due to white meddling to begin with. The natural world demands that the third world collapse. The remaining Europeans and Asians are maintenance populations and the source of entrepreneurial pursuits.
>>541936572Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
>>541931699I lost 5 trees this year, each of them were healthy last year, no signs of any disease. They just gave up and died like they were poisoned by the fucking sky.
>>541937341Heat induced stomatal closure. All the heavy metals being rained down by geoengineering has killed soil microbes as well. Forest floors are starting to not decompose organic matter.
If we ever run out of LNG to make fertilizer the entire planet will starve.
>>541924570Soil quality matters more than anything else
>>541937341Test soil for Barium & Aluminum. Chemtrails
>>541931699What'd the fungus look like?
>>541935657https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youngest_Toba_eruption10-year famines have happened
>>541921039>Do you think they're aware of how much blood they'll have on their hands?they will pull likely some Talmudic bullshit, that as signs were openly said here and there, goyim choose their fatebut seriously guys, natural gas is basis for artificial fertilizer, and while earth has too much food, problem is distribution, and it will get even worse with more fucked up logisticsexpect million sized population movements, it did happen in ancient past, imagine now iwth better means of transportation and weapons
>>541921039there are small farms and wild food growing EVERYWHERE here in italy. i just have to worry about water. our creeks dried up this summer and we have been 5+ celsius above average every day for the past few months with very minimal rain
>>541923957>To last 1 year on just body fat (not accounting for the higher basal metabolic rate of being overweight) would require ~286 lbs of body fat.so average american long pig would sustain family of three? too bad they are toxic
>>541940033You're also right next to Africa, though. Migrants crossing the Mediterranean in search of food will be a huge issue.If you don't already have some, you should go buy some guns YESTERDAY.
>>541936344>sincere to god jews invading our lesser neighbours.which is a good thing. eat shit, macaco
>>541941123You think your country would do any better during famine?Food accounts for a huge chunk of your imports.
