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>>541925471I'll start
>>541925471Where's Reagan?
>>541925493>Obama near greatInto the trash this list goes.
>>541925493>Jackson behind Obama You should be flayed in a public square
>>541925559In terms of establishing his satanic agenda while enjoying broad public support? He was the ideal politician
>>541925471>woodrow wilson>greatHoly shit.
>>541925559>>541925619Obama had very few blunders as president. He will basically only be remembered for near endless economic growth for his entire 8 years.
>>541925730This was done by AINo way Trump did this himself and forgot about Reagan
by far the worst
>>541925471>FDR - great>TR - near greatimpeach this traitor right fucking now
>>541925471Wow this nigga left off the whole bush criminal clan
>>541925840>endless economic growthWhat was the 2008 financial crisis, occupy wall street and the biggest bank bailout in the history of the country. Are you even old enough to buy alcohol?
>>541925471FDR was the greatest.Trump can be in below average.
>>541925559>>541925619Obama's presidency has aged really well, especially when contrasted with his immediate predecessors and successors. Jackson's presidency was great in many respects, but Specie Circular and the Bank War was a total failure which doomed Van Buren's presidency and meant the country was in recession for a decade. Obama's only real failures were Libya, Yemen and Snowden.
>>541926213>What was the 2008 financial crisisA recession that happened under Bush, which Obama ended.>occupy wall streetAn economic movement he supported.>and the biggest bank bailout in the history of the countryA policy implemented by George W. Bush.
>>541925998He missed Richard Nixon and Lyndon B Johnson as well
>>541926695The buck always get passed on to the previous guy. I bet youre saying the same about trump too right. This is all bidens fault
>>541926695>>541926378holy fucking kek, this is what miggers will sound like in 20 years btw
>>541926695So maga dyndu?
>>541925471woodrow wilson as great really gives the game away
>>541926980>The buck always get passed on to the previous guyYou're just historically illiterate. The Great Recession happened in 2008, as did the bank bailouts. Obama became president in 2009. He objectively ended the Great Recession and led to the longest period of economic growth in U.S. history.
>>541925471>>woodrow Wilson>>great
>>541926992What did I say that was wrong?>>541927031MAGA has done a lot of damage to our country and the entire world.
>>541925840>>541926378Hussein Obama -Oversaw Fast and Furious, where US LE was killed by guns they gave to Mexicans-endless drone strikes, inc drone strikes on weddings-extrajudicial killing of Americans-lie of the year with “if you like your healthcare, you can keep it”-completely destroyed workplace healthcare-completely destroyed any hope of post-racial America with “if I had a son, he would look like Trayvon”-zealously attacked whistleblowers for the NSA’s illegal spying program-completely destroyed used car market with Cash for Clunkers-directly increased US combat deaths in Afghanistan after changing RoE-prosecuted numerous journalists for criticizing his regime-was so insufferable and arrogant he got Trump electedNo idea why people pretend this dude was anything other than mediocre.
Yeah it actually sucks that compared to the other presidents we've have since 2000, Obama is the best president this century.
>>541927133>Benghazi>NSA>targeting political opponents using the IRS>Operation Fast and Furious>VA deaths>his SOS email scandal
>>541927340>>541927276>-Oversaw Fast and FuriousFast and Furious was just the continuation of a George W. Bush program that Obama ended.>-endless drone strikes, inc drone strikes on weddingsWhich significantly decreased U.S. casualties. And don't lecture us about civilian casualties, because Trump immediately stopped reporting them, which Obama required.>-extrajudicial killing of AmericansOne American died under Obama, Abdulrahman al-Awlkai, a member of Al-Qaeda. Literally in Trump's first week in office, he killed his 7-year old sister in a failed raid on Yemen. You don't care about that, so stop pretending to care about a member of Al-Qaeda.>-lie of the year with “if you like your healthcare, you can keep it”>-completely destroyed workplace healthcare45,000,000 more people at the end of Obama's tenure than before it, including people with preexisting conditions for the first time ever. >-completely destroyed any hope of post-racial America with “if I had a son, he would look like Trayvon”Only white supremacists had an issue with this.>-zealously attacked whistleblowers for the NSA’s illegal spying programI already criticized his treatment of Snowden, who exposed another Bush era policy. Additionally, Obama refused to prosecute Assange and pardoned Chelsea Manning, while Trump forced Ecuador to arrest Assange and tried giving him the death sentence until Biden stopped the prosecution. Trump has also called for the killing of Snowden.>-completely destroyed used car market with Cash for ClunkersThis is just completely false. Used car prices were cheap under Obama.>-directly increased US combat deaths in Afghanistan after changing RoEYou were just crying about civilian casualties, faggot.>-prosecuted numerous journalists for criticizing his regimeName one.>-was so insufferable and arrogant he got Trump electedHillary got Trump elected. Had Obama or Sanders been the nominee, they would have won in a landslide.
>>541927340>>targeting political opponents using the IRSThe IRS scrutinized liberal groups too, and it was never ordered by Obama. Unlike Trump actively calling for the arrest of his opponents.https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/politics/irs-targeting-tea-party-liberals-democrats.html>>VA deathsThis is largely the result of George W. Bush's wars, and it persists in every administration.>>his SOS email scandalThe entire Trump cabinet deleted classified information on Signal, homo
>>541928783>The IRS scrutinized liberal groups tooThen she had no reason to plead the 5th. The irs wouldn't have to apologize for using key words like tea party to investigate and scrutinize non profits. Oh what's this? https://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/11/us/politics/irs-apologizes-to-conservative-groups-over-application-audits.htmlhttps://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/politics-and-government/politics-and-irs-scandal-overviewNothing you say can be taken as legitimate given how you eagerly twist a narrative to fit your own ideal. You are a vile, diseased , disingenuous faggot. Your kind are the absolute worst.
>>541925493You put Obama as near great, Biden as below average, and Reagan as a failure... Are you fucking kidding me? Get the fuck out of this country, and Grant needs to be elevated.
>>541929510>Then she had no reason to plead the 5thNon-sequitur. >Oh what's this?Nothing that's in contravention to the fact that the IRS targeted both groups. Furthermore, Obama never ordered them to and Republicans never filed charges against anybody over it. Unlike Trump, who ordered his AG to arrest his foes.
>>541929605>You put Obama as near great, Biden as below average, and Reagan as a failure... Are you fucking kidding me?Yeah? What about that are you saying is wrong?>and Grant needs to be elevated.Why? His administration had virtually no accomplishments, presided over a terrible economy, and had the most corrupt administration until Trump.
>>541925471Trump is the tranny-est. or the niggerest.
>>541925471Jeff Davis is the only one what's there to rank?
>>541928640>lies, lies and more liesNo amount of whitewashing is going to make anyone remember Obama as anything other than a failure.>fast and furiousBut no Americans were killed doing this, except under Obama. So we have two choices. Did Obama knowingly continue a bad Bush program, or was he so inept that no one died until he was in charge?>drone strikes and extrajudicial killingsB-but Trump! Concession accepted.>complete evasion of the healthcare premiseB-but more people have healthcare! Concession accepted.>only white supremacists have a problem with likening your child to a violent predator who attacked someone needlessly and got ventilated for it lol>snowden and manningmanning is a LITERAL traitor. Why are you claiming this as a good thing?>I don’t understand the difference between RoE and dronesObama apologists, everyone.>cash for clunkersThink real hard, faggot. Does a government scheme that directly reduces the supply of [item] raise the price or lower the price of [item]?>name a journalistHow about 20? Even literal fucking AP and NYT have called out Obongo for his attacks on journalists. https://apnews.com/article/9d9a76067d5b47e5a290dc9832369c92>Obama would’ve won againHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that fucking idiot literally lost states from one term to the next Oh, and I see you’ve already lost the argument with the other anon about the VA scandals, IRS scandals, and other scandals. They aren’t sending their best.
>mutts cant give their presidents a non-passing gradekekmost US presidents were fucking retards. a significant minority of whom did more damage than if they had been comatose during their presidency. in general the presidential system fucking sucks and american democracy is a failing institution. those in F actively contributed to that long decline
>>541929760He held a few people to the same standards of lawfare they held against him. The democrats started this bullshit.
>>541929760>Non-sequiturYou should really understand what phrases mean before you start using them.
>>541929760See? This is why you are a disingenuous faggot. You hide behind technicalities like a bitch bitch, deflect and divert. You are not serious.>akshually Obama never directed Lerner to do anything You never take responsibility for anything do you? You have never held a leadership position and never will in your life. These incredibly specific actions aren't done without anyone higher up giving the ok. That's just not how the real world outside of your groomercord works. Lerner targeted conservative non profits specifically using key words to single them out and you deflect like usual. That didn't happen to liberal groups either at scale or severity. You are incapable of being honest with anyone, including yourself.
>>541925471I don’t know the policy choices of presidents pre-bush2 well enough to be able to speak with authority, but the orange pissrael slave can’t be in the top half, given how owned by kikes he is.
>>541929947Reagan implemented the SDI, which helped win the Cold War. He's far from a failure.First off, Obama committed countless treasonous acts that anons before me have provided. They don't even scratch the surface. The longterm damage that he's inflicted on our country drastically offsets any accomplishment that you claim he achieved. But you go ahead and keep sucking him off.Second, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. died sometime between 2014-2017. The guy that assumed his place was not him. Biden was implicated in Ukraine's bribery scandal and countless other things, not to mention that JFK Jr. called him a traitor in a letter that he wrote before he died.And Grant needs to be elevated because I like Grant. That's why.
>>541926378Obama is a worthless nigger who degraded American culture irrevocably by emboldening the scumleft who believe that his election was the signal that elections only needed a woman/non-white/faggot candidate and sufficient threats of violence against anyone who votes for a straight white man in order to be successful.
>>541930518>anyone remember Obama as anything other than a failure.Obama is ranked highly in both historian lists and polls among the general public. >But no Americans were killed doing this, except under ObamaYeah, that's generally what happens with bad programs. After they lead to demonstrably harmful outcomes, they are ended, which is what Obama did. It's still George W Bush's policy.>B-but Trump! Concession accepted.I didn't concede anything. You are moral fagging over something you don't actually care about.>who attacked someone needlesslyI know you're a pussy, but most men would physically confront somebody stalking them.>B-but more people have healthcare!Your premise is completely disingenuous and the framing is wrong, you retard. Obama didn't promise you'd keep your healthcare, he promised that people would be able to keep their doctor.>manning is a LITERAL traitorKek, you people are so transparent. Don't whine about Obama's treatment of whistleblowers if you think they're traitors. >>I don’t understand the difference between RoE and dronesJust a completely meaningless comment. >Does a government scheme that directly reduces the supply of [item] raise the price or lower the price of [item]?The answer is prices increased slightly for one year and they declined and remained consistently low throughout his presidency, much lower than they are now.>>541930518>How about 20?Your article doesn't say anything about journalist prosecutions. Name one that he prosecuted, faggot.>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA that fucking idiot literally lost states from one term to the nextOkay? He still won by over 330 electoral votes. Nobody expected him to do as well in 2012, and Republicans thought they'd win kek.>Oh, and I see you’ve already lost the argument with the other anon about the VA scandals, IRS scandals, and other scandalsNone of you retards have won any argument. You're just repeating Fox News talking points that you don't know anything about
>>541930572No he didn't. He personally ordered illegal prosecutions of political opponents. Biden never ordered his prosecution. >>541930620You should really understand actual arguments before you start "debating"
>>541927323Factually correct list
>>541930685>You hide behind technicalities like a bitch bitchFacts aren't technicalities. I'm sorry your arguments aren't stronger.>These incredibly specific actions aren't done without anyone higher up giving the ok. That's just not how the real world outside of your groomercord works.What's disingenuous is pretending to be outraged over the IRS targeting conservative groups when they also targeted liberal groups and pretending to be outraged over Hillary Clinton deleting Classified information, when we know the entire Trump administration did so with Signal. In any event, these "scandals" are not Obama's, because unlike Trump, he never ordered targeting his opponents or engaged in corruption himself.
>>541926378He ruined the military and made health insurance as expensive as a mortgage
>>541931082>Reagan implemented the SDI, which helped win the Cold WarNo it didn't. It never even came to fruition. Reagan does have a few accomplishments, like the INF Treaty, but his legacy is a disaster overall, both on the economy, society and foreign policy.>First off, Obama committed countless treasonous acts that anons before me have providedNo they didn't, and considering you neocons think we've been at war with Iran for 47 years, it's your boy Reagan whose administration directly sold weapons to them.>The longterm damage that he's inflictedName something. Anything.>Second, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. died sometime between 2014-2017Oh, it's a schizo. Let me guess, Hillary's also in Guantanamo and Sidney Powell's about to release the Kraken?
>>541927323>>541930667Why do polchuds glaze jackson so hard?
>>541925471His childish seething would be funny if he wasn't in unopposed control of America's rapid decline.
>>541932391Cause fuck the banks and fuck you
>>541925471interesting he hates harding
>>541931094Your problem with Obama is that he's (half) black. You don't actually have an argument against his presidency, because it was objectively the best this century.>He ruined the militaryNo, that was Bush. Obama was able to stabilize both Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria and prevent endless, high cost wars like Iran. >made health insurance as expensive as a mortgageThe rate of health insurance costs slowed under Obamacare.
>>541932513It's not even his listHe took it from some old Harvard guy and AI'd it up to include some modern guysThe list is from 1948
>>541932608>>541932223
>>541932372You are the dumbest fucking liberal on the planet.>No it didn't. It never even came to fruition. Reagan does have a few accomplishments, like the INF Treaty, but his legacy is a disaster overall, both on the economy, society and foreign policy.Yes, he did. The SDI was implemented. It was successful. The Soviets hated it. Read a fucking book and all of the accompanying declassified documents pertaining to it.> No they didn't, and considering you neocons think we've been at war with Iran for 47 years, it's your boy Reagan whose administration directly sold weapons to them.Yes, they did: Benghazi, Fast and Furious, etc. You're just too fucking dumb to comprehend anything. Why are you shifting this to the Iran War and calling me a neocon you fucking retarded monkey? You've been blowing Obama in this thread like a cheap hooker.>Name something. Anything.Anything and everything I name you'll discredit because you refuse to acknowledge that you're wrong.>Oh, it's a schizo. Let me guess, Hillary's also in Guantanamo and Sidney Powell's about to release the Kraken?As I said, the dumbest fucking liberal on the planet. How does it feel to know that your entire education has failed you? You don't even have the IQ, let alone the critical-thinking skills to grasp or correlate simple facts and clues. What a fucking waste of life. It's time for your HRT and mRNA booster.
Reagan granted amnesty to Mexicans so fuck him
>>541931594>Obama is ranked highly in polls, so you can tell he’s good.Oh, I see I am arguing with a literal retard. My bad. Not going to bother disproving the rest of your leftist diatribe.
>>541933884>You are the dumbest fucking liberal on the planet.I'm not a liberal. You are the dumbest fucking anon on 4chan though.>Yes, he did. The SDI was implementedNo it wasn't.>Yes, they did: BenghaziHow is a terrorist attack treason, retard?>Fast and FuriousAgain, a George W. Bush-era program that Obama ended.>Why are you shifting this to the Iran War and calling me a neoconBecause you're a Republican praising Reagan who made a deliberate ploy to massively fund the military industrial complex and quash "Vietnam syndrome", while simultaneously funding Iran, who your party says we've been at war with for 47 years, while falsely accusing Obama of treason.>Anything and everything I name you'll discreditAlmost as though you don't have anything.>As I said, the dumbest fucking liberal on the planetQ just told me that isn't an argument.>What a fucking waste of life. It's time for your HRT and mRNA booster.Unlike your hero, Trump, I never got it (the COVID jab).
>>541925471>Clinton mysteriously rated as "average" instead of a failureTrump has a different kind of BBC in mind kek
>>541934423That obviously isn't my argument, retard. The anon made the argument that everybody views Obama as a failure, when that objectively isn't true. He is the most popular modern president among historians and the general public.
>>541925471>FDR>WilsonDidn't even bother reading the rest
>>541934539>citing literal opinion polls as proof of Obama’s ability and popularity>”objective” opinion polls >calling others retard
>>541934740What's objective is that the majority of people don't view Obama as a failure. Improve your reading comprehension, retard.
USAid doesn’t even have money anymore which means this anon is whiteknighting obama for free.
>>541934841You are implicitly making the argument that you believe literal opinion polls are objective, let alone objectively collected or published. You are bafflingly stupid, retard.
>>541934905Notice how you don't actually have an argument?
>>541935095You have lost every exchange you have had with any other poster in this thread. Your refusal to acknowledge reality doesn’t make you correct.
>>541934466>How is a terrorist attack treason, retard?They knew about the attack in advance and allowed it happen.Here is the definition of treason: 1.) The betrayal of allegiance toward one's own country, especially by committing hostile acts against it or aiding its enemies in committing such acts. 2.) The betrayal of someone's trust or confidence. 3.) The offense of attempting to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance, or of betraying the state into the hands of a foreign power; disloyalty; treachery. He met all three definitions through both of his terms, not only through Benghazi.>Because you're a Republican praising Reagan who made a deliberate ploy to massively fund the military industrial complex and quash "Vietnam syndrome", while simultaneously funding Iran, who your party says we've been at war with for 47 years, while falsely accusing Obama of treason.You don't know shit about my political affiliations but assume I'm a Republican because, like a mouth-breathing dumbass, you put Reagan on the bottom as a failure without knowing his true accomplishments. That you're praising Obama only reiterates that you are a fucking liberal who hasn't connected the dots as to the man's true damage to this country. >Unlike your hero, Trump, I never got it (the COVID jab).Orange man isn't my hero. Now go boost.
>>541935056>You are implicitly making the argument that you believe literal opinion polls are objectiveNo I'm not, retard. I'm explicitly making the argument that anon's claim that everyone views Obama as a failure is objectively wrong, based on the fact that he's ranked highly in both historian and public opinion polls and overwhelmingly won two presidential elections with the majority of the popular vote.
>>541935234No I haven't. And the fact that the vast majority stopped replying after being unable to rebut what I'm saying is proof of that.
>>541935329>They knew about the attack in advance and allowed it happen.This is false.>you put Reagan on the bottom as a failure without knowing his true accomplishmentsTrust me, I know far more about Reagan than you, which is why I know SDI never got off the ground, and that he's one of the worst presidents we've ever had. You literally like him just because you're a boomer or a gen xer who fell for his Hollywood speeches.
>>541935381Don’t know why you repeat things that are so easily disproven. No, Obama did not win “the majority of the popular vote”, let alone an “overwhelming” victory, retard.The electorate was ~220 million voters in 2008. Obama won ~31%. 69% of the electorate had the chance to vote for Obama but decided not to.Also>still defending opinion polls
>>541930667The only correct answer. Thank fuck there is hope in this shit hole still
>>541935904You're fucking retarded, dude. The popular vote doesn't apply to people who didn't vote. Out of those who did, Obama won 51.1% of the popular vote in 2012 and 52.9% in 2008 - both majorities.
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>>541932391>fronteirsman >kills the British during war of 1812>spend entire political career trying to kill the central bank>succeeds>survives first ever presidential assignation attempt >beats the shit out of the faggot, would have killed him had bystanders not stopped himJackson wasn’t just the most based president he was possibly the most based man who ever lived.
>>541935839>This is false.It is not.>Trust me, I know far more about Reagan than you.Trust me, you don't. You already showed me that.>You literally like him just because you're a boomer or a gen xer who fell for his Hollywood speeches.Keep guessing. You're getting closer.
>>541925471>Putting Grant that low and Lincoln that highHow I wish we could go back to the days of the gentleman's duel. Trump would probably forget where he is before the handkerchief dropped.
>>541932734No i was in the military during bush and obama. Obama eliminated dont ask dont tell and allowed women in combat arms. Obamacare was propped up by punishing people who didnt have or need insurance but thats long gone and now health insurance costs more than my rent
