This is what happens when you let chinks destroy your economy. Coming soon to Canada. Thank god we have a strong leader who will never let this shit happen in America.
Good I hope their entire society implodes so they can do the ethnic cleansing and eradication of the liberal ruling class necessary to even begin solving the problem
>>541935626Actually it's cheap Russian industrial gas thats fucking them up
>>541935626nigga, its not so much China doing this, its that kiked agenda to destroy europe forced germans to cut off cheap energy from Russia which killed their ability to compete against everyone else.
>>541937437Germany was dumb to rely on Russian gas and oil
>>541937565dumb to have cheap inputs to produce high cost outputs that made them rich?lol, okay jew.
They just need a few more migrants and some solar power
>>541935626according to eurocracts, ukraine was worth it :D
>>541937565Russia uniting with the rest of Europe would produce the Anglos' greatest fear of a continental hegemon that can throw off their parasitic banking tentacles, which is why they've spent the past 250 years financing and instigating wars to keep the continent divided
All by design. Everything that is going on in Europe right now is part of a plan to destroy the European races/nations. One of the founders of the european union literally wrote a book about how all of it was a construct to turn all of europe in to a mutt race that would never unite again as a people.
>>541935626Are they making weapons again? In factories pretending to be doing something else?
>>541937622Think what they meant to say was Germany was dumb to get rid of their nuclear power plants and consequently forcing themselves to be be more reliant on other nations for their energy needs.
Chinese cars are just better
>>541937565if they were smart the Germans would tell the kikes in charge of the US to fuck off and they would go back to turbo charging their economy on super cheap russian gas and oil
>>541938159Say that to the tens of thousands who burned up in their chinese EV.
>>541935626China unironically kept euro auto industry alive. They are having to cut down jobs because Chinese are not buying as many euro cars as before
>>541935626>Blame the chinks for israeli cost cutting/kalergi. Not really a bold move, or believable.
>>541938207They tried, by building Nordstream 2, which is why we blew it up
>>541938207That was the plan but the pipelines got blown up by the ukraine&US&isreal.
>>541938146That is also a good option.>>541938159lol, okay chang.
>>541937437I always laugh when I think about how Euros and Germans spent $11 billion on that gas pipeline to Russia and we immediately blew that shit up lol
>>541935626This isn’t happening because of politics. It happens because VW management was dumb and ignored changes in the market.>>541936430>>541937437Nothing to do with energy.VW doesn’t produce cheap enough and the cars are overpriced.
>>541938703Fuck you Ahmed, just focus on selling keebab
>>541938998>Let me explain your country to you even though i don’t even speak your language.Halt dein Maul du dummer jude. VW ist nicht die gesamte Industrie. VW hat eigene Probleme.
>>541939792nigga, go sell keebabs and leave Germans to the Germans.
>>541938998And that video is about chemical industry you dumb idiot can’t even understand the stuff that IS in your language.
>>541940015>keebab not selling well, ahmed big madgo drive a truck through a market you fucking swine
>>541937437not Germany's fault that they chimped out, the choice not to larp as dead soviet empire was theirs, stop sympathizing for russians, their gov is utterly retarded>>541937565incontrovertible truth
>>541939926Du dummer Neger VW hat eigene Probleme. Dein bescheuerter englischer Artikel handelt von der Industrie insgesamt. VW ist davon aber wenig betroffen.Hier ist ein besserer Artikel, der das eigentliche Problem anschneidet. Lern’ Deutsch du behindertes Kind und halt dein dummes Maul:>https://www.business-punk.com/business/74-euro-gegen-12-euro-stundenlohn-vw-macht-den-china-vergleich-zur-krisenformel/
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>>541940155its germanys choice to throw a hissy fit over a war between two unrelated countries, wether you agree with the war or against.
>>541937565much smarter to rely on natural gas imports from norway at 5x the price
>>541940256Du bekommst sie nie zurück.
>>541935626>This is what happens when you let chinks destroy your economy.You mean white people ? Chinks don t have white savior complex. It s great to close down factories, less CO2 polution, it s good to fight climate warming. All factories should get closed down.
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>>541937565yeah, exploiting cheap resources is so fucking dumb lolthank g-d we will finally have $10 fuel
>>541937437>>541937565>>541938703its both, but blaming another country for being better at being competitive is retarded.the solution is just EU protectionism like we do with a lot of other things, i hate paying more for something i could get for cheaper but its neseccary at times.
Ree the Chinese not buying our shit overpriced cars is a malicious act. Taiwan numba 1 Tianamen1989 bugmen go to hell
>>541940502leave Germany you brown piece of shit
>>541940539VW doesn’t need russian oil or gas you dumb niggers.They struggle because they failed to adapt and can’t produce cheap and efficient enough. And their cars are overpriced and not competitive enough.Stupid russian gas has nothing to do with VWs problems.
>>541940695what do you think fuels factories hans? mehmet spinning the cogwheels manually?
>>541935626chinks didn't destroy our economy, our own traitorous politicians didour former secratary of commerce's ideology was literally "degrowth" and "deindustrialization" to combat climate change
>>541940695literally everything is made with oil, saying "it has nothing to do with" an industry is retarded
>>541940695>they failed to adaptDinosaurs failed to adopt to a massive comet falling on their heads. This does not explain anything. How did they fail to adapt?
The cheapest vw golf is like 40k euros and a used, 20 year old golf 5 is honestly better and 10 times cheaper.They should start manufacturing the cars from early 2000s again amd sell them at affordable prices.
>>541940570>its both, but blaming another country for being better at being competitive is retarded.I am not blaming china for being better. I am blaming VW for being dumb and failing to adapt to a market that has become more competitive.>the solution is just EU protectionism like we do with a lot of other things, i hate paying more for something i could get for cheaper but its neseccary at times.Yes, but also VW must become more efficient. They need to get lean and produce cheaper cars that people actually want. The time where they had no competitor and they could sell any overpriced garbage is over.>>541940673Halt doch dein dummes Maul du Neger. Keiner braucht dein Gesülze hier.
>>541940793Electricity.>>541940847>literally everything is made with oilYes but there are industries which are more reliant on it. VW is less reliant on oil and gas and still has bigger problems because their problem is not energy related.>>541940848It’s literally in the same comment:>They struggle because they failed to adapt and can’t produce cheap and efficient enough. And their cars are overpriced and not competitive enough.You are too dumb to read or what?
>>541940911>I am not blaming china for being better.Its not that China is better they just copy everything the Germans do.Vw spend billions on innovation and thats reflected in the prices of the cars.The Chinese dont innovate they just copy whatever the brands who do innovate come up with thus saving alot of money and being able to sell cloned cars for cheaper.
>>541941092The market is still affected by it, is the average German as able and willing to pay for a new German car as before?
>>541940822Bullshit he didn’t destroy them, he warned them that they’ll have to adapt but they didn’t listen:>„Wenn Sie 2025 kein E-Mobil für unter 20.000 Euro anbieten, dann werden Sie – so fürchte ich – im Markt scheitern“, sagte Habeck dem VW-Vorstandschef Herbert Diess in einem Interview im Jahr 2019.
They could be getting free energy and they'd still be failing. Their problem is their cars are piece of shits and still more expensive than the Chinese car to be competitive in the Chinese market. Cheap energy in Germany wouldn't change anything since they make the crap sold in China in China.
>>541936222checked & fpbp
>>541941258That used to be true but chinese have moved past VW. They can produce cheaper and more efficient. That makes their cars cheaper.
>>541941282good luck producing an electric car for under 20.000€ in FUCKING GERMANYjust proves how Habeck had zero clue about anything
>>541941279>The market is still affected by itThis is an empty phrase with no meaning.>>541941302Exactly this.
>>541941092>Electricity.https://annualreport2022.volkswagenag.com/group-management-report/sustainable-value-enhancement/procurement.html>>541940911Yes of course they should adapt, but honestly it's hard when your rival will by default be cheaper internationally due to their lower nominal GDP per capita, thus lower wages that are still good PPP wise within their own country.Protectionism is really the only option, but Volkswagen is going to have a tough time outside EU regardless of what they do, even if they had dirt cheap energy, which while exacerbates the problem wouldn't solve it alone if it went back to pre-2022.
>>541941545You should honestly be embarrassed about that post
>>541935626Cuckmoney decided that grandstand against Russia over a slavshit ex-oblast and buy 6x more expensive gas from its GAYTO """"""allies"""" was THE move.Production costs are so high now that the prices are way beyond competitive.Add to that the slavish ass licking of automaker kingpins towards the greencuck politicians with a electrocar push that went nowhere.Slava Ukraini, you voted for itNafotroonery kills. Oneself.
>>541941464How is this Habecks fault? He just said that this will be the Chinese competition and VW will have to adapt or they’ll have a problem. And he was right.I think VW could manage it if they wanted. Labour costs are higher in Germany, but we are also #1 in automation. So instead of producing labor intensive, complex and expensive cars, they need new models that are simple to produce with more automation. Remove the excessive extras and configuration options and let robots build the cars.
>>541935626China just makes decent stuff for decent price, thats not a problem. EU did this completely to themselves.Our financial system is a race to the bottom, speculative kiked shell game that does not reward production of quality durable goodsGreen deal, emission and safety regulations make car manufacturing stupidly expensive and complicatedWe could easily continue making simple, reliable stuff like the TDI powered cars, lean into that, develop it and there would be no reason for anybody to buy chinese cars. But we banned ourselves from that and mandated the EV switch which is something nobody can realistically compete with China because they locked down most of the lithium and battery pipeline.
>>541941551>thus lower wagesDoesn’t matter if you have more automation and don’t need to pay wages at all. Germany is still king in automating things. They just need to lay some boomers off. But that’s a political unwanted solution. So the VW boomers might die with their company. I don’t even care anymore.
>>541941835>highest energy costs in the world>incredibly high labour costs thanks to unions having a stranglehold over the industry>tons of bureaucratic red tape>add massive taxes and other fees on top of it>Habeck and his cronies did everything in their power to increase all these issues>"why don't they produce cars for under 20.000€?"it's like an arsonist who torched a building giving you tips how you could have prevented the fire
>>541942035also pissing of russia and loosing cheap energy + too many labor laws to protect lazy faggots + ridiculous costs of running a bussiness while being compliant with all the EU bullshit for running a busines adds to the final cost.We can bounce back once we hit the bottom i guess
Yes, yes, of course. Thank god for strong communist leader putting the kibosh on market competition
YOU VILL ALL AUTO-PILOTED IN BURN YOU TO DEATH (BYD), FAST FIRE TINDERBOXE THAT HAS A SHELF LIVE <10 YEARS (#NoRefunds), UND YOU VILL BE CRISPY>YOU VILL ALL AUTO-PILOTED IN BURN YOU TO DEATH (BYD), FAST FIRE TINDERBOXE THAT HAS A SHELF LIVE <10 YEARS (#NoRefunds), UND YOU VILL BE CRISPYYOU VILL ALL AUTO-PILOTED IN BURN YOU TO DEATH (BYD), FAST FIRE TINDERBOXE THAT HAS A SHELF LIVE <10 YEARS (#NoRefunds), UND YOU VILL BE CRISPY>YOU VILL ALL AUTO-PILOTED IN BURN YOU TO DEATH (BYD), FAST FIRE TINDERBOXE THAT HAS A SHELF LIVE <10 YEARS (#NoRefunds), UND YOU VILL BE CRISPY
>>541942152+>using quotas and financial penalties to force yourself to compete on the EV field with a country that is the lithium cell king>mandating cars need to have low fucking brake and tire emissions plus bazillion cameras watching everything including the driver does not make cars more economical
>>541942152>highest energy costs in the worldDoesn’t matter for VW as they are not a energy intensive industry.>incredibly high labour costs thanks to unions having a stranglehold over the industryFucking fire the boomers and use robots. Habeck didn’t tell them not to.>tons of bureaucratic red tapeNot for VW. They can get away with anything. Remember the Abgasskandal? They just gamed the law and what happened? Nothing.>Habeck and his cronies did everything in their power to increase all these issuesNope. He was one of the few people who warned them. But they are dumb boomers and didn’t take him serious. >it's like an arsonist who torched a building giving you tips how you could have prevented the fireHabeck doesn’t produce cheap Chinese cars you idiot.
>>541942422>with a country that is the lithium cell kingWhy is it not Germany? They could be, but simply decided to let China have it.
German business leaders made a very stupid prediction. They believed that as China’s economy matured and its middle class expanded given its status as a growing developing nation sales of German cars would rise. But the reality is different. China’s economy is in freefall. Although over 10 million university students graduate in China each year, fewer than 15-20 percent actually secure employment. China is full of jobless peasants. The Chinese remain poor; for them, even a cheap, China-made electric vehicle despite its nice looks is a luxury. This means there is simply no reason for the average Chinese consumer to pay a premium of three or four times the price to buy a German electric vehicle.
>>541935626That's the way the cookie crumbles when they are expected to pay insane amount of taxes in order to fulfill some Jewish revenge fantasy.
>>541942529my tinfoil hat theory is that major EU politicians are either chinese or marxist-international assets. and this is a project helped by the bankers & their pet politicians at the expense of developed countries with compromised leadership. Bolsheviks got a lot of (((western))) financial help to kickstart USSR too. This feels like they are scuttling & poisoning europe and feeding china.
>>541935626>buying cars in 2026natural selection hard at work
>>541938703And they can't make cheap things because energy costs are insanely high, due to retarded policies Germans support.
>>541942529the lithium battery thing is a different model than the car thingmain access barriers to car making is precision, design and brandingmain factor to EV? scale of the battery productionnot to mention that china gets energy for about 40%-60% cheaper because the US loads their climate regulations, the ukraine then the iran war on usit is not sufficient, germany is under attack
>>541938245the fact that you have to make shit up says it all
>>541943069If instead of sucking chinas pee pee for cheap chinkoid goods and being reliant on cheap russian gas for a few decades then throwing a tantrum because pootin invaded jewlenskys kingdom of corruption, they might've still had some cheap gas, probably even declared ww3 on US/UK because they destroyed nordstream which was their vital energy pathway, instead they're stuck on the other team in ww4 and they're losing stonks bigly whilst their jew leader imports a couple hundred million foreigners to replace their industry with rape farms to increase population so they have more loans to sell to 'people'. no energy though.
Kikes are a cancer on life itself.
>>541942901>major EU politiciansI don’t think this was a political decision. Our problem is that we are an aging population. There are too many old boomers in positions of power in companies and they don’t want to change anything or take risks. Look at people like Musk, he got rich because he is not afraid to take on huge risks and invest in the future. German/EU industries would have the resources, the money and the know how to do what china does easily. But they rather cling to the past and go down with the ship. They are happy as long as we import enough niggers because that’s their only vision for the future.
>>541942901i feel like tinfoil theory is too smart for these people, they are simply retarded boomers that believe in humankind as a whole and green politics
>>541935626>kikes take control over our media, use it to send trillions to israel and make us waste trillions in endless wars for pissrael while China saves their money to invest in innovation>China hires and the best and brightest, while jews force us to import billions of 45 IQ Indian Hindu rape rats to take over our most important STEM industries and destroy them/pol/ the most jeeted brownoid part of the internet: WHY WOULD CHINA DO THIS SAAR?
>>541938998Focus on going back to India and gang raping your sister, Ramesh the HIndu rape rat.
>>541938319>completely different tail lights
>fail to take Russian oil fields during WWII >this happens
>>541935626I thought chinese cars were already taxed high. I think they suspect that theres something dark lingering on the horizon like a crash or something.
>>541935626>This is what happens when you let chinks destroy your economy.You cannot blame the chinks for producing affordable high tech vehicles that are better than traditional brands.Volkswagen means the "people's vehicle" founded by the nazis to provide simple and cheap vehicles for the working class now make expensive vehicles for a few full of useless electronics and complex mechanics, if instead of doing autistic engineering VolkWagen started to make cheap vehicles then there would not be a need for chinese vehicles.Sadly all this destruction was done by Americans, not the chinks, Americans exported their bussines model of "Everything must be expensive" so all companies switched to make everything expensive, housing must be expensive, cars must be expensive, computers must be expensive, things will get more expensive until the Americans are nuked so re-moralization happens.
Rather have a Chink car than an Amerigolem car.
>>541935626> 50,000It's akshually 100,000 and God knows how many additional jobs with component suppliers, sub-contractors and local business this will destroy.This is what you get when you deliberately and unnecessarily drive up the cost for energy in your own country by ending coal power, nuclear power and Russian power because you want to be the "Moral Champion of the World". This is the stupid Goyman idealism that Nietzsche cursed. I'm only glad to have retired early. Goymoney is dying. I'm outta here!
>>541938116No, any weapon produced in Goymoney is insanely expensive due to the high energy cost, wage cost, social security and other taxes like CO2-tax. If you want to mass produce weapons and ammo you need to do that in a country with cheap energy and cheap labor.
>>541943770>It's akshually 100,000 and God knows how many additional jobs with component suppliers, sub-contractors and local business this will destroy.Good. VW has too many employees compared to the amount of cars they produce. They must lay people off. VW is not supposed to be a daycare for boomers.Energy prices don’t matter for VWs problems. It’s a scapegoat for retards.
>>541943255Seek mental help
>>541944014>If you want to mass produce weapons and ammo you need to do that in a country with cheap energy and cheap labor.Shut the fuck up you dumb boomer:>https://www.doolly.com/qa/has-germany-become-the-worlds-top-ammunition-producerApparently you have no clue about what’s going on in this country anymore.
Aren't sharts all about capitalism and the free market? Why are we afraid of cheap Chinese vehicles coming into the country? Are the Jews at Ford / GMC / Stellantis scared their companies will be one shotted into bankruptcy?
>>541944451Capitalism is about competition not free market.
>>541938998High energy costs make every single step in the whole production chain more expensive. It's economic suicide.A new government would have to dump ALL the green ideology, ALL the Marxist ideology, build a dozen NPPs, repair NS2 and the relations with Russia, deport all illegals and cut gibs to the minimum.
>>541944580China is building massive solar parks btw. Why? because it’s free energy and you don’t have to rely on imports and become dependent on others.
>>541944579Even if that was true, which it isn't, does that mean the shart companies are afraid of competing? Why are they afraid?
>>541944580Your dependence on Russia is what got you in this mess retard.The same guy who ordered the state to shut down all your Nuclear Reactors joined Gasproms board of directors, surely you know who Gerhard Schröder is right shill?You want energy INDEPENDENCE you fucking worthless worm, not slavery to Russian oil. But you're not actually German are you?
China is allowed to sell things to you but you can't sell to them because they are Chinese. I bet a lot of people would rather have a German car than some electic fire trap shit box.>if you get a BMW lease don't own
>>541944802Sure i'll explain basic economic princible to you since you don't know much about it.Capitalism is about competition not free market, free markets don't function. Competition can look like many things, IE using the powers of government and economic leverage to offset China's blanantly not free market, that can dominate lesser markets if left to a purely free market style, which is why not one single government in the world operates on a totally free market economic system.Please learn about the carrots, sticks, and levers of capitalism in the 21st century to comprehend what economic competition can mean.
>>541944209The production is not profitable. It is subsidized by Goyman tax payer money. "Sondervermögen" my ass.If we had to compete on the world market with our ammo, we wouldn't sell one artillery shell.Those shells would have been needed in the early stages of the war in Ukraine.Now that drones have changed warfare fundamentally, howitzers have become much less relevant if not superfluous.
>>541944770Portugal and Spain already experienced what high dependency on solar power leads to: instable grid.
>>541944810> Your dependence on Russia is what got you in this mess retard.Wrong! It was our subservience to Anglo-Saxon geopolitical interests.
>>541944810> The same guy who ordered the state to shut down all your Nuclear ReactorsThat was Angela Merkel, not based Gerhard Schröder.
>>541945602You really aren't a German, or you're stupid.It was finished under Merkle, but Schroder started it. So you just admit to everyone here you're a Russian shill.Russians are delusional, sub human, and retarded, no one should listen to them.
>>541945602Also good job ignoring the fact Schroder immediately upon leaving German office joined the Russian board of directors and moved his primary resident out of Germany. Nothing suspicious about that Comrade! But sure. you, just like he have Germany's best interests at heart.
>>541945869>>541945959Schröder was the last German politician who dared to put Germany first.But this is history. Germany and all other European countries are having their nations destroyed and replaced by a stupid brown goy race.I'm only glad to be old, financially independent and mobile. I won't live to see the worst.
>>541946385Okay so you're a Russian, got it. Enjoy your upcoming draft vatnigger.
>>541935626Maybe just like, idk, make things that can compete with the Chinese on cost and quality.>>541937565Why? In a sane world, Europe and the US would have integrated Russia back into the fold and treated them as a normal country with a lot of resources. The track things were going before the South Ossetian War and the anti-gay bills that caused a spergout from the West vastly disproportionate to how bad they were.
>>541946502Almost like Russia intentionally rebuked every attempt at getting them to calm down. Russia is an enemy to nearly every single nation state it borders, and has invaded multiple neighbors.We do live in a sane world, everyone just realized that Russians are animals and that they seek to enslave all their neighbors, as they did under the Soviets. Biggest psyop of a post Soviet fall is this belief that the "Soviet Union" was greater than Russia, it wasn't. It was text book Russian ethnic supremacist bullshit, and they exploited their neighbors. No wonder no one wants to be their friend
>>541945869> sauce: my digital parrot> t. glownigger with unlimited tokensSchröder had to make concessions to his then green coalition partner. This is Realpolitik.Any limit could and would have been lifted if necessary for the economy to survive.Only Merkel became really destructive. Schröder was the "Genosse der Bosse", he did what was good for Germany's economy.
>>541935626Why do they need to lay off workers? Are they not able to sell any Bugatti's?
>>541946446> Okay so you're a RussianJunge, deine Schallplatte hat 'nen Sprung.Leg mal ne andere auf.
>>541946735Okay vatnigger, keep telling yourself that, no one believes you.
>>541946838Russophobia is reddit desu
>>541947212>leredditSupporting Russia is the biggest kikecoded pill you can take anon so I wouldn't be talking about reddit.
>>541945218>The production is not profitable.Such a dumb statement to make. Why would it be? Blowing shit up is always a loss and never profitable you retard. The point is it makes more economic sense to produce them in Germany and that’s why we are the biggest manufacturer. And you didn’t even know this.
>>541942294That’s a Tesla
>>541940155let me guess, biden ordering ukranian terrorists to bomb nordstream (funded by your taxes btw) was Russias fault too
>>541944810>>541947322etcA person replied to this thread.
>Be Germany>Willingly give auto industry to chinks>OH MEIN GOTT WHO DID THIS TO ME??????Uhhhhh.....
