Day 6 of a deadlocked, fatigued and annoyed jury. Judge yesterday gave them the Tuey-Rodriguez instruction. The jury has been sent home for the day>Live updateshttps://www.cnn.com/2026/09/03/us/live-news/lindsay-clancy-trial>Fox Live stream , no bitches talking just ambient musichttps://www.youtube.com/live/l0YTVNftCiA?is=cH-yXinzgVrO4R28>Video livestream Court TVhttps://www.youtube.com/live/Sga76PnsoIs?is=JhyuXTLKGhpLT_MM>up and coming TrialsTyler Robinson Oct.29thLuigi Mangione Jan 2027Lindsey Shiver TBA
>>541936429she did it
>>541936429Women do not deserve rights.
>HANG THAT WHORE NOW
>all trials going forward will just have women jurors playing with tarot cards during deliberations
>get not guilty because insane>nobody does anything and all the normies say it's fine because "dude she'll go to a mental hospital anyway">she gets out in like two years (no announcement for her safety of course) The Mayans were right and the world has already ended.
>>541936429It sounds like the juror may be replaced tomorrow or its mistrial time. Interrogating a juror in open court is crazy work though wtf
RE: Last ThreadWait the juror is a nigger? I'd like to see proof of that. If that's true, then it's truly just black vs white then. You think some nigger cares if a white women kills her kids? You think he/she would vote to convict a negress if she was on trial for this? No fucking way.
>>541936704I hope they replace him and let her walk.Accelerate.
REPEALTHE 19TH
>>541936429What is the likelihood that we could collectively round up all the Lindsay supporters in pink that are at the courthouse and start a new series of Salem Witch trials? Would the European "sink/float" test be sufficient evidence or would be need to consider spectral evidence or inspect them for "witches teat?"
I love trial threads, though I wish this one was as entertaining as the Darrell Brooks one
>>541936823Well the funny thing is most all of the alternates are men. They could end up in the exact same situation seeing as how the alternate will be selected at random
>>541936704Someone have a video of the interrogation?
>>541936831I would say that the mangione one will be fun too but I still don't believe he's actually the guy.
>>541936429>Clancy's lawyer wants to remove the single juror holding everything back.what a fucking legend I pray they never budge.
She's going to get off completely free.
>one superchad juror refuses to allow women to get what they want and skirt the lawamazing
>>541936878its 3/3 men/women for the alternates and only 1 of the 3 men on the actual jury is holding out, chances are not good they pull another autistic chud who refuses to bend to the henpecking
>>541936828you could listen to them talk for 10 seconds but that would be extremely painful
>>541936936The character assassination shills are already hard at work on him>HE'S A BLACK SUPREMACIST>HE'S A PEDO
>>541936912I’ll personally have fun watching the prosecution try to argue their case without the backpack or any of its contents>why yes this grainy still frame of CCTV footage definitely looks like our guy
So it's one juror holding out? That means it's 100% a male and that means there's a good chance he's holding out for a guilty verdict
>>541936985>you could listen to them talk for 10 secondsOk. So listening to them talk is proof of witchcraft, then we can burn them collectively at the stake? This "Repeal the 19th" thing is promising, but I don't quite think it goes far enough.
>>541936704>Interrogating a juror in open courtSauce on this? There's no way they throw him out. That would be clear bias on the judge's part.
>>541937000Ah yes, "pedo", the other one of the 2 female words for "man I don't like" that's used when "nazi" has a small chance of sticking
>>541936906It’ll be in open court at 9am ET tomorrow
>>541936927>>541936936>>541936932Why is everyone saying the jury is leaning towards aquittal except for one guy? What if it's the jury wants to throw the book at her but one faggot or woman refuses to budge? Who decided this?
>>541937136The third is incel. You can be married with kids and still be an incel like Matt Walsh.
>>541936429how the fuck is this shit real ? people can't be this dumb
She's going to get away with it. People on reddit are all over the>She was insane, thus not guilty!Goddamn, she will get away with it, spend a year in a "mental health facility" then be sent home and write a book about it and make millions.
>>541937154Mostly based on the way the defense attorney is acting from what I have seen, but I believe it since the jury is majority women. We wont have to wait long to see anyways
>>541936645Your horoscope, sir.
>>541936429>wheelchair games
>>541937109Reddington said it after court https://x.com/itskikidanger/status/2095614772909625431?s=46
>>541937154Because it's the defense that wanted it on the record that a single juror was not following the reasonable doubt instructions. It's not difficult to extrapolate from that.
>>541937209>people can't be this dumboh my sweet summer child. the jury isn't filled with people, it is filled with women. this is exactly why the original constitution didn't let women in the jury
>>541936429Isn't the point of a jury to be a microcosm of society? How is a 75% women jury accomplishing that?
>>541937000He is a black guy? Holy shit, this is amazing. White men betraying their own kin and all spec of morality left resting on the shoulders of what white men considered subhumans for centuries. We're truly living Revelation times and I truly hope western culture gets wiped out for good or what's left of it becomes represented by some dignified ethnic that can carry that old flame.
>>541937309just watch the footage from this afternoon, it is clear as day from context that it is 11-1 for ngri or just ng with 1 g holdout
>>541937195I was once called an incel by my gf whom I shagged earlier that very same dayWomen are retarded
>>541937281>his name is Reddi(t)ngton
>>541937285That's a bold/foolish strategy
>>541937335It's another humiliation/demoralization ritual for men. The outcome was predetermined. Female prosecution, female jury, etc. She was never going to be punished for this
>>541937309They are trying to say she was crazy so it don't count. Take note, in the future, this the outcome of this trial will be used by women to justify all kinds of shit. The women on the Jury know>If we can get not guilty, then we have free reign to break the law and claim "umm I was crazy, PROVE I WAS SANE AT THE TIME!"
>>541937371It's going to be straight up not guilty. These jurors are all tainted by outside knowledge of the case. They are going home every night and doom scrolling through tiktok and Instagram and getting every bit of information they can.
>>541937309>This presumes the man is holding out and preventing a guilty verdictHe's holding out to try and get some of that psycho pussy.You'll know when he does because he'll switch to guilty the day after.
>>541937367I have no clue if he is or not. Some random anon claimed it in the last thread then suddenly people popped up saying he was saying she was guilty just because he hates white. Probably all jews.
>>541937285What is "reasonable doubt"? Like the man has to vote against what he thinks is right and justice because this clown laywer scored 98 out of 100 points in argument presentation according to his own review? What kind of fucking shitshow is this? (genuinely asking, I hope I'm being retarded and the US legal system is not that retarded)
>>541937371>it is clear as day from context that it is 11-1 for ngri or just ng with 1 g holdouThat's a fucking blackpill. I'll refuse to believe it until it happens.
The two funniest scenarios nobody is entertaining >11 people want murder 1 and the holdout wants murder 2Or >11 people want NGRI and one wants Not Guilty straight up
>>541937367>He is a black guy? Holy shit, this is amazing. White men betraying their own kin and all spec of morality left resting on the shoulders of what white men considered subhumans for centuriesI seriously doubt this is the case.
>>541937552reasonable means reasonable in normal person terms, not in candance owens landthey only really need a reason"I do not find the case convincing." is enough
>>541937617Of the three men there’s a well dressed and groomed obese gentlemen with a very big long beard, a young chud, and a middle aged black man
>>541937335Mass is roughly 75% faggot a the jury reflecting of mostly foids wanting to absolve a filicider of her crimes is a decent representation of that
>>541937579https://x.com/itskikidanger/status/209561477290962543140 seconds in the defence lawyer explicitly says that the 1 holdout has doubt but refuses to listen to the judge's instructions [about reasonable doubt]
>>541937621This. People think “beyond a reasonable doubt” means beyond any doubt” or “beyond a shadow of a doubt” and that’s not the case
>>541937579just the fact that it's happening in Massachusetts is reason enough to believe it
>>541937552NO WE'RE THAT RETARDED
>>541937552A reasonable doubt is an honest doubt of the defendant's guilt for which a reason exists based upon the nature and quality of the evidence." It is an actual doubt, not an imaginary doubt. It is a doubt that a reasonable person, acting in a matter of this importance, would be likely to entertain because of the evidence that was presented or because of the lack of convincing evidence.
>>541937281I like how he called out the reporter was retarded for asking a question the last question already answered.
>>541937154What the others who replied to you said and the fact that it is unlikely for a woman to be a solo holdout. Women generally go with what they deem the majority opinion so one holding out against 11 is pretty unlikely
>>541937942Going for facts and not opinion to justify yourself is a trap."I am just convinced that this is not enough.""My morals would sit wrong if I would decide against my honest held belief that the evidence is inconclusive."A juror standing on their conviction and internal belief is what they can't deal with.
>>541937942So not the sympathy/feelings bullshit reason for doubt in these 11 retarded jurors.
massive black pill dropping tomorrow when they kick the chad out of the jury and this bitch is found not guilty but if this was a man he would already be serving a life in prison sentence. giving women rights will be remembered as the catalyst that led to the destruction of civilization.
>>541938126FACTS
>>541937281Sounds like he's just assuming it's 11-1 because a juror is questioning the judge's instruction.
>>541938126If it was a man, he'd be shot outside the court house at the end of Day 1.
>>541938126Just a reminder in america this pretty much establishes women cant be held responsible for murder in any case. They're gonna start killing their husbands and claim hormones made them do it. You should never relax if you are living with a foid.
Based, the justice system is a comedy and I love a good joke.
>>541937752>40 seconds in the defence lawyer explicitly says that the 1 holdout has doubThat's according to the defense attorney and the judge didn't really acknowledge that was the case, he seemed to roll with the hypothetical. Regardless, the defense also brought up the possibility of removing a juror and the judge shut it down. Yeah, it's probably 11-1 right now in favor of not guilty, but this defense attorney has been on top of his game and I'm sure he's also using his time publicly to manipulate the jury through the media. I'm still holding out hope that the opposite is the case and defense attorney is being an attorney is doing what attorneys do and lying out his ass.
>>541938126kicking the man off the jury and her walking makes it a decision by the judge not the jurythat is iffy spares are really mostly there for illnesses or something
>>541937621No, reasonable means reasonable to you, it's up to the individual. If you are autistic only 100% verifiable proof is considered reasonable evidence.
>>541938296You think women care about that? They want this legal precedent.
So why exactly are we letting them make a mockery of justice?
>>541937836>just the fact that it's happening in Massachusetts is reason enough to believe itAt this point, red states and blue states really need to separate into separate countries and minimize all cultural and economic contact. I have nothing in common with a citizen of Massachusetts if this shit is ok to them.
>>541938295you need to come down from delulu land and accept the blackpill. They had a LENGTHY and heated sidebar, he knows it is 11-1 for NG.
>>541938350Would be based in this case because there is no way to verify she is crazy. The only fact is she killed her kids.
>>541938350>a reasonable person, acting in a matter of this importanceNot autistic.
>>541938126>massive black pill dropping tomorrow when they kick the chad out of the juryJudge already shut that down when the defense brought it up. He said he had no indication that the juror was engaging in misconduct other than he disagree with the majority, which wasn't enough to remove him.
>>541938477They are supposedly having an inquiry into him(the juror) in the morning. It's over.
>>541938477they are having an inquiry on the juror in the morning to determine if he is ignoring a reasonable doubt or not, it isn't over yet
>>541938418Which reasonably means we should kill her and donate her body to science, case closed.
>>541938385Yes, the women know if they get this, the they are free to>Kill their husbands (and take his stuff)>Kill the children (and take their husbands stuff)>Rob men (to take their stuff)>Umm I was actully insane at the time, I'll spend a year or two in a ward on the states dime, sure, denying me my phone is bad for my mental health though!
>>541938401>he knows it is 11-1 for NGHe also knows that media pressure is important and he's intentionally making the public aware of it to manipulate that perception. There is no fucking way I'm trusting the word of a piece of shit attorney that is representing a child murderer.
>>541938477>>541938525Yeah according to Reddington the judge will do an inquiry into this specific juror tomorrow in open court which is fucking insane.
>>541938577The foids run the looney bins too now. They will let them out after a week
>>541938589who is representing them in a flamboyant fashion, no reason to hate professionalismin an adverisal system
>>541938477>They are supposedly having an inquiry into him(the juror) in the morningI just watched the judges comments and he gave people nothing to believe that was the case. In fact, he said he would avoid getting into these type of discussions.
Please GOD PLEASE have the jury declare her not guilty, the reactions would be awesome, just imagine the riots and killings that would follow.
>>541938259not only america, foids around the globe are watching this shit and feeling empowered. their clits buzz with excitement over the fact they could murder their kids, claim it was hormones, suffer zero legal consequences and go back to their hedonistic college life style.
>>541938664I know! But look at what Reddington said after court >>541937281
>>541938689>he thinks there would be riots and killingsSome people would protest for like a week or so before moving on
>>541938590>according to Reddington the judge will do an inquiry into this specific juror tomorrowI just watched the judges comments and he gave no indication that was going to happen. I'm sure the defense would like this and they will make a motion for it, but right now there is no indication this will happen.
>>541938689There would only be riots if she is declared guilty though. Women are really the only ones riled up about this case enough to show up there in crowds(to support her).
>>541938689White's don't riot or protest unless ordered to.
>The prosecution faces the highest burden of proof in the law. If 11 of your peers see a reasonable doubt, you must deeply re-examine whether your certainty truly meets this incredibly high legal standard.Judge Sullivan
>>541938660>no reason to hate professionalism in an adverisal systemYes, there is. He's an attorney representing a child murderer. He's a piece of shit. No one respects criminal defense attorneys. We all know they are pieces of shit.
>>541938385Jury trials don’t set precedent you dummy.
It is insane that the prosecution has to prove someone was sane at the time when they commit a crime in MASS What a retarded state. That seems so fucking exploitable, as we are seeing now.
>1 guy insisting on first degree murder>9 women + 2 cucks insisting on not guilty who will win?
>>541937367Niggers seem much less gullible and inmune to the jewish koolaid compared to the modern neutered timmy in certain matters, particularly dealing with women, They won't hesitate to treat them as the disposable holes they are and this ironically will make women more attracted to them, meanwhile the average modern white male will act like a slimy whiteknight simp faggot which usually leads to women not respecting and cucking them.
Will it be broadcast, streamed, whenever the judge questions the holdout black guy? "Normally I'd defend the honor of a white woman to my dying breath your honor, but she stole three beautiful lil white chilluns away. I SAY SHE IS GUILTY!!"
>>541938589If you don’t understand that you should not trust ANYONE in this fucking “trial” you’re fucking idiot. You already KNOW the outcome. This bullshit is fake from the beginning and this is meant do demoralize you, but first they need to hook you up on this to make you doomscroll. Hence this shitty drama element about the “standoff”. This “trial” is totally fake as her “disability”, the only real thing is her dead children and her obvious guilt. Even if the judge refuses to obey glowniggers order to release her, they will make the same with judge’s family.
>>541938826No there is not, the issue is that he is flamboyant.Like I resent derschowtit not for defending pedophiles in court but being with epstein and getting a massage without pants.
>lindsay clancy wants to be released so she can participate in the special olympics
every chud on here is just mad they can’t kill their kids and claim psychosis. Lindsay is a hero and I’m sick of pretending otherwise
>>541938921They can in a convoluted roundabout kinda way. This case could be cited in arguments in another filicide case to argue for specific jury instructions or charge rulings.
>>541938826It's better that ten guilty to free than one innocent be jailed. Everyone deserves to have fair representation and council. One day it might be you or someone you care for in that seat and for a crime you didn't even commit.That being said....burn it all to the ground, this shit has run its course.
>>541938821And Sullivan also said he wasn't going to take sides here and that did didn't necessarily agree with the hypothetical 11 or the 1. He's instructing them to try to reach a consensus, as he is legally required to do. But he never mentioned an open court inquiry into that juror. He did mention that he would consider the defenses motion that he denied today and conduct a judicial inquiry into the matter. But he didn't agree that it would be an open inquiry and the inquiry can be simply documenting the defense's attorney's motion and documenting the judges response to that motion. None of this means that a juror will be questioned in open court about his convictions. That shit would be really, really out of the ordinary. Could it happen, yeah? But there is no reason to believe one way or the other right now.
>The fuck would I want a mistrial? I strangled the prosecution's arguments to death.Jeezus, don't they teach tact in law school
>>541938921It can absolutely set a cultural precedent which will influence future trials, and that is what they are already trying to do. Every other news media rag is going on about post partum depression and le doctors failing women. In a decade, you're going have dozens of these foids doped up on tiktok propaganda about hating men and kids killing their kids/husbands and claiming insanity based off this shit. This is just yet another rotting hole in society.
>>541939279>TOUCH GRASS U FUCKIN CHUDDIE INCELS>oh well you are just mad u cant kill your own kidsmake up your mind dipshit
>>541936429Silence damned women!I damn you to the mountians!I damn you to the desert!I damn you to the abyss!From holiness you fled, to isolation you are damned!You have no power here!
>>541936429>AND NOW, COMPETING IN THE CHILD MURDER TRIATHLON, HERE'S CLANCY!
>>541939349I’m only telling you that’s what Reddington said after court. https://x.com/itskikidanger/status/2095614772909625431?s=46He says and I quote >The juror has been identified in the note by the foreperson, and there will be an inquiry by the judge tomorrow at 9 o’clock. I don’t know what his question is going to be, we’ll have an argument about it and I don’t think it’ll be at the sidebar I think it will be in open court whichIdk dude sounds like it’s happening to me
>>541936985> painfulFor you
>>541939434Exactly. What we are witnessing here is essentially another 9/11. As staged as the first one. Ask yourself why is there even a trial.
>>541939051all he has to say is, "there is irrefutable evidence that proves she planned the murders. she sent the husband out on errands that would take a while to complete, searched about mental illness prior to the murders to see if she could get off by pleading insanity. she didn't just snap and beat or stab the kids to death, she picked a method, location and weapon and used it on all 3 children, proving she was sound of mind and aware of her actions. she's guilty and the evidence proves it." they shouldn't be able to do shit if he is strong in his convictions and doesn't waver but given this whole fucking thing is a circus and the judge is a stupid boomer who just wants to go home, I think it's likely they kick him off, bring a in a new juror and she walks free after an hour of new deliberations.
>>541938985Thanks for your brown shitholer opinion, but nobody asked.
>>5419396679/11 was not staged
>>541936936Is /pol/ seriously fantasizing that this is what's happening? My niggers, the one juror in question is obviously the one not guilty vote. The fact that the judge is chastising her probably indicates that she's breaching decorum in her arguments.
>>541939790I actually do agree. In a clip of Reddington going to the parking lot he said >“one juror has doubt”That can only be a NRGI juror, right? How would it make sense that a guilty holdout “has doubt”? And don’t say it’s that they have doubt she was insane, that is flip-flopping the usage of the term (doubt) which is always used to refer to the commonwealths burden of proof.
>>541939790https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vs7f_Bt6Rgit is 1 holdout for guilty, refusing to accept the realm of reasonable doubt
>>541939701Seems I struck a nerve, just a friendly reminder your gf could be sucking nigger dick at this exact moment.
>>541939790Do not underestimate the insanity of leftists in Massachusetts.
>>541939333>It's better that ten guilty to free than one innocent be jailed. Everyone deserves to have fair representation and councilChecked, but fren. I have much experience with our court system. I am well aware that verdicts have no basis in actual law, that lawyers and judges basically decide the case before it goes to trial, and that police are corrupt AF and charge innocent people with crimes all the time. There is no such thing as fair representation or council. No person involved in this process is noble or good. They are all cunts. They deserve no respect. Regardless, this bitch needs to be locked up. She is a child murderer.
>>541939883it was "one juror has doubt BUT [won't agree to the rules on reasonable doubt meaning that is a not-guilty]"
>>541938821God dammit I'd rail her so damn hard
>>541939883I interpreted it as "One juror clearly has doubt but doesn't understand that the very fact that they have doubt means they have to say NG"
>>541939434>>541938577So for the slippery slope it was:>women will get the right to kill their husbands (just have to claim they were raped)>women will get to kill their babies in the first few weeks>women will get to kill their babies in the first trimester>women will get to kill their babies in the second trimester>women will get to kill their babies up till birth>women will get to kill their babies after birth.What comes next? Women get to other peoples kids???
>>541939790You’re a coping idiot that doesn’t understand at all what’s happening rn. She’s going to walk free no matter what. You’re watching the plane hitting second tower.
Are you retards under the impression that she wasn't insane? Like what would her motive actually be?
>>541940041>Like what would her motive actually be?there are social media posts from her where she bitches about how much she hates looking after her son
>>541939051>Will it be broadcast, streamed, whenever the judge questions the holdout black guy?There is no reason to believe at this point that the juror will be questioned, much less have it broadcast in open court. An inquiry as a proceeding is pretty open and is done to document part of the legal process. The judge already denied the defense's motion to dismiss a juror, but said he'd conduct an inquiry tomorrow. No one knows what that inquiry will entail, but since he denied the defense's motion to dismiss a juror, that gives you some sense that the judge isn't going to begin these proceedings at this time.
>>541940041imagine thinking it's not guilty - insanity and not the actual straight up not guilty verdict
>>541939976There has to be a bigger motivation. Lindsy will likely get money from donations after she gets away with it and is committed for a few years. I think most donation services will tighten up they standards after a while. Not to mention the netflix deal she is going to get the day she is acquitted.
>>541940041Ressenting her kids seems like the pretty clear-cut motive here.
>>541936936ONE SWORD AT LEAST THY RIGHTS TO GUARD, ONE FAITHFUL HARP TO PRAISE THEE!
>>541936565Whatever bullshit my wife is reading says maybe this was the husband that less than a month after it happened he was on vacation with another woman. Is that true? Anons? He wouldn't be the first man to lose his shit and kill his kids. Remember the guy that fell for the butt sex meme?
>>541937266Lmao. Laughed my ass off at this for a good 10 minutes.
>>541939976next women lose men rights and get women rights back
>>541940041>She was la insane in the membrane>Lures each child to a secluded spot one at a time ands systematically strangles they to death after she sent her husband away.
>>541940041>motive It was a textbook murder suicide dude. Not complicated. Killing them was simply how she could finally justify taking her own life, which is no more delusional or psychotic a thought process than any other family annihilator/murder suicide perpetrator.
why didn't he hire reddington
>>541940041you ever been in a relationship? women are fucking crazy and think they're entitled to anything and everything, including killing their own kids because their hormones were a bit out of wack. a woman on her period will have wild mood swings, hit you, insult you, go batshit and think it's ok because her cunt is bleeding.
>>541940102Yeah but she tried to commit suicide afterwards. She got absolutely nothing out of killing the kids. It would be different if she had a getaway planned with another man when her kids had an "accident" but this is a completely different case. She had even googled how to kill herself.
>>541940311He confessed and plead guilty to avoid the death penalty
>>541937983he also asked which specific juror it was, like wtf.
Wine moms have no clue how bleak this looks to normal young men.
>>541940224Kill yourself you worthless kike cunt. You aren't fooling anyone
>>541940041>Are you retards under the impression that she wasn't insane?Legal insanity in the US. is a hard standard to meet, but apparently easier in Massachusetts. To some extent, you can argue that any murderer is insane. The standard usually involves proving that a person was so insane they couldn't differentiate between wrong and right. Premeditation usually proves that a person's mind was clear enough and cogent enough to understand the effects of your actions. This bitch obviously could think clearly and plot a murder. In almost any other state in the U.S., she's guilty and there isn't question. Even in Massachusetts, this shouldn't be a question, but the prosecution fucked up the case and you have retarded liberals on the jury.
I’m thinking we get a mistrial tomorrow
>>541940102Yeah but why kill the other two? Why kill any if you're going to kill yourself anyway? And killing your children after you complain about looking after your son doesn't sound insane to you? What are you talking about lmfao>>541940177retard, the trial is to determine whether she's criminally liable for their death, not whether or not she did kill them>>541940206is it? How many new parents would you say resent their kids? >>541940263That doesn't sound insane to you?
>>541940331no she didn't, she did preformative superficial cuts and threw herself into a snowbank from a non-lethal height to help sell insanity, she only got paralysed because she fucked up and fell wrong. She is a nurse, you are trying to tell me a nurse doesn't know where the fucking arteries are?
>>541940331she killed her kids because she resented them and her husband for robbing her of a lifetime of being a used up roastie. she tried to kill herself because that's what women do, they try to avoid responsibility.
>>541940041she was just having a woman moment
>>541940458No, you cannot argue that all murder is insane, what disingenuous bullshit is that? >dude, everything is le subjective fuck off
Fucking retards in here still thinking it's 11 guiltykek
>>541940486It was too high for a fake, foid logic I think
>>541940485>Why kill any if you're going to kill yourself anyway?She worried mommy’s suicide would fuck them up and they’d be sad. She also was having a hard time committing to idea of suicide because she didn’t want to miss the rest of their lives. That’s actually not psychotic in that it’s not delusional both would be true. Her solution was to take them out with her.
>>541939981>She's going to walkOh, I don't forsee any of that in her future.
>>541939790Youre a moron. Why would the defense attorney be aggressively pushing the judge to remove the lone holdout? He obviously has inside info that they are the lone guilty vote
>>541940688Checked the reason is his odds of a conviction and appeal are much better than rolling the dice in a second trial
>she was insane! we need a system and palce to deal with insane people who kill kidsits called prison, dipshits.Fuck. Prison used to be the spot you held people until they got their verdict, and if they were guilty of a henious crime you killed em. if it wasnt too bad then maybe they got lashes or were forced to do hard labour for a bit. Now prison is a place you are held after you are convicted, and if you are too stupid or insane for prison to "rehabilitate" you then you dont even go there
>>541940735successful appeal I meant to say
>>541940646I know you're bullshitting, but there are people who actully believe this.
>>541936927
>>541940816How is it bullshit?
>>541940546Nigger, did you even read my post?
>>541936429When they find her innocent a precedent is set that women can't be trusted for any jobs that matter anymore.Want to be president of the US? Sorry, a woman's hormones can cause a psychotic break. They might order a nuclear launch.Want to vote? A women's opinion can't be trusted, they might have post-partum psychosis.
>>541940891Yeah, I did. If you think that insanity is essentially down syndrome, you're not just very well-read
>>541936985I'm sure anon's a big guy
>1 absolute legend trying to convict against 11 demonic women and simps who want to let women kill kids>11 perhaps surprisingly rational people stuck in a jury with 1 retarded whore who's been watching TikTok videosdo we know for sure which one it is? like beyond all reasonable doubt?
>>541937266What's the point of women's obsession with the horoscope when they locked in the position of the constellations as though we're not all different birthsigns because the constellations change position over time?
>>541940936No they won't. You fool. Women will just get a new pass, and this one means she can kill her kids and claim temporary psychosis and get away with it. If you think the left will magically abandon feminism over this you are pants on head retarded. They'll double down like they always do.
>>541940485>Yeah but why kill the other two? Why kill any if you're going to kill yourself anyway?You've never been with a woman who has legit PPD. In her mind, the kids aren't separate beings from her. They are parts of her because they came from her. They just separated from her, but are still her. They are both her greatest source of stress and her greatest source of responsibility. You can't truly be free of the responsibility until you kill all parts of yourself. I had to get the courts involved to get my kids away from my crazy ex temporarily. But if you've seen this shit firsthand. You know why. This doesn't excuse killing the kids, but it's how these stupid foids literally think.
Just read the Wikipedia article and I don't think it's unreasonable to think she was out of her fucking mind on multiple medications and killed her kids in a psychotic fitt. sex-having male that squats 365
>>541940936>>541941078Can't wait for the questions...>Do you identify as female?>Have you given birth to a child in the last 24 months?>Have you ever been diagnosed with depression?...to be added to job applications. If you don't think this is what happens you are naive. Liability always trumps rights.
>>541941022>Yeah, I did. If you think that insanity is essentially down syndrome, you're not just very well-readThat's basically what I said you stupid, obtuse cunt.
>>541940579That just means gamblers expect a mistrial
>>541940041>maybe the husband doesn't help her enough & she just popped out a 3rd>maybe she regrets marrying him>maybe she's angry as hell and like most women, cannot control her emotions>maybe the husband cheated on her and this was his punishmentMaybe you're a midwit for not being able to imagine any possible motive
>>541941144Name one time in the last fifty years the private sector has reversed on policy that benefits feminists. Name one.
>>541938295He didn’t even have to try, the media immediately got to work fighting for the defense. With that said, I guarantee the majority of the women broke the rules and watched TikTok’s at home that they gave more credence to than the actual trial when it came to making a decision.
>>541940936How cute of you to think that accepting that women lose all agency because of their hormones means that society will re-evaluate their role in it.
>>541941129The fact you can ride cock like a champ is relevant here why?
>>541940485>Why kill any if you're going to kill yourself anyway?Throwing yourself out a 2nd story window is a pretty half-ass attempt at suicideI suspect she doesn't even need the wheelchair
>>541941248Exactly, that is why it is called a turning point.
>>541941129>I don't think it's unreasonable to think she was out of her fucking mind on multiple medicationsShe admitted to not taking these medications>and killed her kids in a psychotic fitSo psychotic that she sent her husband away to get take out, planned out how long it would take to murder her children and ensure she had enough time and then strangled an 8-month old baby?>t. sex-having male that squats 365365? That's all? And squats are for fucking retards who have no regard for core strength or the long-term health of their back.
>>541941248advertising has gone back to gratuitously objectifying women
>>541941129Cool storyHave you read any of the psychological evaluation, her medical history, or the fact she was premeditating the entire triple homicide-suicide?
>>541940752>rehabilitateThe biggest meme of the current justice system, we're blatantly wasting citizen resources to "fix" le poor criminals, just for them to keep doing crimes because they're criminals for a reason.
>>541938577It’s insane to me the burden is on the prosecution to prove she wasn’t crazy. What the fuck happens in any case with no witnesses? All you have to do is make a few doctors visits, tell them the right info that will get shit in your chart without them putting away, and refuse to comply with your care. Impossible to prove you didn’t have psychotic break if there’s no witnesses. If you’re a foid cunt just claim post partum and women will automatically jump to defend you
>>541941360You're delusional.
>>541940647Yes, walk. You don’t really get it, don’t you.
>>541941207Oh yeah you're actually right we should just use any motive we can imagine that fits our expectations as proof of her guilt. Justice!
>>541940485Are you retarded or just pretending to be one for the lack of genuine discourse? Why are you conflating insanity with psychopathy on purpose? It's clear she was sound of mind when she planned the killings, she checked the driving distance and time to ensure she had enough time to off all her children, she made the orders to the restaurant to ensure Patrick would pick it up THERE (there were several other restaurants nearby their home), the killings were carried out in a very personal and methodical order for obvious reasons, not rushed like someone snapping would have done and she clearly invented a bullshit defense (hearing voices) to justify her commands in court despite no similar delusional episode ever being mentioned in her diary entries or talked about with any of psychiatrists. She is a psychopath that had it all carefully layed out to finally get rid of the children she despised and felt that were responsible for draining the life out of her. The only thing she didn't count on was fucking the fall in the suicide attempt (she never cut her wrists in the right angle, she never made a deep incision in the neck close to her carotid, she knew the fall off 14 feet wouldn't kill her - she is a nurse, she knows all this shit) and becoming a paraplegic.
>>541941415His source is Wikipedia so I doubt the trannies mentioned that. Or her plans for her life after getting off
>>541941431I'll wait for the based accelerationism.
>>541938821Not sure if that’s him talking specifically or just in a theoretical sense that you need to always be examining your thoughts
>>541939081>kill your children>get to travel the world at the expense of someone, likely working class white malesGod, why can't the West fall already
>>541936429bro, if she's let out she's going to encourage women to kill their kids.
>>541936429She murdered her children because her husband was having an affair. She's not insane, just sociopathic or psychopathic. She acted deliberately and with premeditation; no recklessness whatsoever.She should die but MA is microdicked and lacks capital punishment.
>>541941446Didn't say ANYTHING like that.>dipshit asks for possible motives (1 aspect of determining guilt) - dipshit gets possible motivesHer guilt is that she planned/timed this shit perfectly in under an hour.That and her half-assed attempt at suicide
>>541941144>Have you ever been diagnosed with depression?Illegal to ask though because of hipaa laws. They would have to change medical privacy laws.
>>541941596I get that feeling tooBut of course the defense would withhold that as it establishes motive (revenge)
>>541940102>there are social media posts from her where she bitches about how much she hates looking after her sonSource?
>>541936976This case has proven that 11/12 people are NPCs, so there is only a 1/12 chances of getting a non-npc.
>>541941771eg.
>>541941771Yeah, at the end of the day, defense attorneys have to win for their client unless they have explicit knowledge of their client's guilt, but I'm not counting on attorneys being ethical under any circumstance.
>>541941426>It’s insane to me the burden is on the prosecution to prove she wasn’t crazy.That's not so much insane as how this is being interpreted. While the burden of proof is on the prosecution, that burden should simply be proving pre-meditation, which this is. You shouldn't have to prove that being depressed isn't an excuse for murder. I think this judge is some retarded liberal boomer that has allowed this shit to linger in the courtroom and now people think that severe depression is grounds for the insanity defense, which it has never been.
>>541941917>I think this judge is some retarded liberal boomer that has allowed this shit to linger in the courtroomIt's Massachusetts. Imagine a even more snobbish version of a NYC liberal.
>>541936429If the lone juror is holding out and the defense is saying hes not following "reaonable doubt" then it stands to reason that he is the one guy against a not guilty verdict. Because reasonable doubt is used to prevent a conviction based on the grounds there is a lack of evidence presented for one to be certain of guilt.
>>541941129>toxicology shows she only had one slightly elevated level of a single drug in her system >eveything else was so low as to not actually have any pharmacological effect. >she was well known to be anti medication and would stop her meds after like two days on the lowest dose complaining about side effects She claims she took a huge crushed up handful of pills btw but toxicology showed it was a blatant lie. She clearly staged a bunch of shit to make it look like she wanted to kill herself so she could really sell the “I was crazy !” Story. First thing this murderous foid cunt did waking up from her coma was to ask for a lawyer. Most obvious charlatan in history
>>541941248>Name one time in the last fifty years the private sector has reversed on policy that benefits feministsNYC and 9/11. Muslim terrorists attacked NYC (at least most normies believe this) and now you have women believing wearing a hijab is empowering, a Muslim mayor of NYC, and the Governor of New York wearing a hijab. This only proves that violence is the only way to truly change women's behavior.
>>541941847What stood out to me about this as a parent is that she felt an EIGHT MONTH OLD was being willfully defiant. I think the reality is she liked the idea or image of being a parent but she fucking hated being a mom and she hated child care which is why she outsourced most of it. Like really think about what she’s saying. Her son is the most difficult person she’s ever met because..he’s acting age appropriately?
>>541942127>This only proves that violence is the only way to truly change women's behavior.Violence is the only god damn way to achieve anything at all ever effectively, and I'm tired of blowjob merchants sniffing their own farts and pretending it isn't soI could literally grind every "anti-violence" pussy into pink paste with my bare fucking hands
>>541942127Wearing a hijab is not policy, though. Not even close. That's virtue signaling.
>>541942272>Violence is the only god damn way to achieve anything at all ever effectivelyNot really. Jeets conquer by passive parasitic invasion. Jews use economic warfare. There are tons of ways to achieve end states without violence. Women, however, are truly fucked up. Their life is one big rape fantasy and if you provide them stability they will detonate it. Violence is their nature. No society in history has thrived and expanded while embracing women's rights, because to do so is embracing a group of psychopaths prone to homicidal hormonal shifts. At least a greater understanding of the danger of women's rights will come of this legal shitshow and I believe we are well beyond the "believe women" phase of societal evolution.
>>541942655>Name one time in the last fifty years the private sector has reversed on policyThe question itself is misleading. The private sector doesn't make policy. Regardless, we are talking about modifying female behavior and women gladly donned the hijab and proclaimed it was an example of their "freedom." You can also argue that expanded workplace involvement is the same as this too. Basically, women are happy to enslave themselves in the workplace and they view this as an expression of freedom. Women's rights are absolutely becoming more restrictive and they are welcoming this, because they are insane.
>>541936429>Motivational talksSo she's going to tell women to murder their kids so they can travel and participate in sporting events?Her husband should have curb stomped the evil bitch's brains out before the ambulance showed up.
>>541943373>tfw we got a live action adaptation of the first Metallica album back in 2023 but the trial refuses to give us the 2nd and 4th in 2025Lame
>>541942655If you are talking policy, you can look to immigration policy. Women overwhelmingly embrace immigration from third-world countries and this has meant giving up basic rights and freedoms, like jogging alone, using public transportation, dressing overtly, using public parks, or walking to the grocery store. Again, violence is the key here. The more western men get murdered, the more women get raped, the more women double-down on their support of immigration policy.
/pol/ needs to accept it lost. Mothers do not kill their children, it isn't in their nature. But fathers do kill their children, often in murder-suicides.
>>541941596This is the correct answer.
>>541941596Far more likely the father killed his children to avoid paying child support.
>>541936565Based and correct. Guilty
>>541943529Women kill their children in murder-murders instead of murder-suicides, and then scratch their wrist with a fork and claim it was a suicide attemptThen they cry "oh no I lost my children and almost died oy veyyyyy help me boyim give me all the attention aaaaaaaahhhhhh"
>>541942151>hey facebook, I'd like to vent because I'm struggling with my third child in a way I didn't with my previous twoYeah you're totally right anon, this a definite proof of how evil she is>as a new parentwhat percentage of your day is dedicated to child care
>>541937252It's funny that 2 pussy whipped feminist men going along with not guilty are more likely than 7 women holding a proven murderer accountable
>>541940486you haven't proven that past a reasonable doubt though.
>>541944455You don't get it! She jumped from a two story home.>The home in question.
>>541937154>>541944498It's probably gonna be everyone in agreement that she's NGRI and 1 random right wing woman holding out and ignoring the definition of reasonable doubt.
>>541936429>woman jury>not sequesteredJudge I guess was okay with a pinky promise that they wouldn't whore out their verdict vote for likes every minute the judge wasn't looking right at them.This is a mistrial any way you cut it.
>>541944238>Then they cry "oh no I lost my children and almost died oy veyyyyy help me boyim give me all the attention aaaaaaaahhhhhh"If we are being honest, this is a part of the case that doesn't make sense. Why would you meticulously plan out asphyxiation for your children and then botch your own suicide? She was a nurse. She had to know throwing herself off a second-floor wouldn't get the job done and she knew where the major arteries were and didn't hit them.
>>541944564And the blood smears indicate she dangled herself from the window before dropping.
>>541944627Did you have a stroke while writing this or are you actually implying shes not guilty by reason of insanity is the right and obvious verdict?
>>541944805She was simply insane up to that point. She was mid-jump when sanity kicked back in and she turned mid jump to try and save herself. you have to prove that is not what happanend chud!
>>541940486>>5419442382-3 centimeter deep cuts on the wrist doesn't seem superficial to me.https://www.masslive.com/news/2026/07/lindsay-clancy-trial-resumes-friday-morning-with-jury-visit-to-familys-duxbury-home.html>He confirmed there were cuts underneath and across Clancy’s neck, along with several horizontal slices on her wrists, as the images were shown to the jury in the courtroom. Her wrists and neck were visibly bloodied.[...]>Reddington then showed images of Clancy’s blood-stained clothing cut off from her at the crime scene, adding blood “seeped into the ground” from where she landed. He confirmed with Maffeo that blood was on the windowsill and outer ledge. https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/witness-offers-details-cuts-lindsay-150111930.html>A physician assistant who treated what he called “severe” cuts on Lindsay Clancy’s wrists in January 2023 took the stand at Clancy’s murder trial Wednesday morning, testifying about one of the case’s key issues — the gravity of her injuries.[...]>On the stand, Negri said he was assigned to repair the cuts on Clancy's wrists during his shift at Brigham and Women's Hospital on Jan. 25, 2023 — the day after Clancy's children were killed and she attempted to take her own life. Clancy had cuts on both her right and left wrists that were "severe and deep enough" to require sutures, he said. The cuts on her neck were superficial and did not require medical intervention, he said.>The wounds on Clancy's wrists were not actively bleeding and had been dressed and covered before Negri arrived, he said.>Negri told jurors he sutured a 3-centimeter deep cut on Clancy's right wrist and a 2-centimeter deep cut on her left wrist. The remaining cuts were flushed and closed with Steri-Strips, he said.
>>541942018Yankees, Irish undesirables, and Jews
>>541944898>you have to prove that is not what happanendWhen the Insanity please is raised in MA state courts, the prosecution is required to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is not insane
>>541944992Why was she premeditating a triple homicide?
>>541940458Maintaining a lucid phone call hiding what she was doing between murders seems like a pretty solid proof she knew what she was doing
It is my expert opinion based on 30+ years of experience that she killed her kids.
>>541945019>>541945133ed gein was an active serial killer for 10 years and found to be insane at trial and sent to a mental asylum instead of prison:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Gein
>>541944923Damn, you convinced meFree Lindsay, she dindu nuffin
>>541945253Not relevant
They're gonna let her Fucking walk. I cant Fucking believe it.
>>541945133Well, yes, which is why I also wrote>In almost any other state in the U.S., she's guilty and there isn't a question. Even in Massachusetts, this shouldn't be a question
>>541944923>2-3 centimeter deep cuts on the wrist doesn't seem superficial to me.Angle, you fucking moron. Don't matter how deep you're cutting if you're just going for skin and muscle. She knew the way she cut her wrists wouldn't endanger her life. She knows basic anatomy by heart.
>>541945429>They're gonna let her Fucking walk.Roll...
>>541944992Usually affirmative defenses flip the script and the defense has to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt
>>541940041Motive is used to find a suspect, not to prove guilt. Saying you "heard a voice" doesn't make someone insane. It makes them coldly calculating, trying to get an insanity ruling. Because she's NOT insane she'll be out of the nut farm in like 2 years.
>>541936429BTW, Picrel is why this is happenning.
>>541936581Neither to chuds, weak men shouldn't be allowed to have a say in anything.
>>541945253Ed Gein dug up corpses and fashioned trinkets out of them. He kept vaginas in a shoe box and had literal lampshades made out of human skin. He was convicted of two murders, but there were likely dozens more. If you are comparing the baby blues to keeping human heads in napsacks near your bed, then perhaps you need to reconsider the comparison, But if you are asking, this motherfucker should have been hung and the insanity defense wasn't correct here either. In this case, the defense requested a jury without trial and the idiot judge allowed the insanity defense. Something about liberal, Protestant, white States and catering to murderers though.
>>541945650insanity pleases work different in Massachusetts unlike most states.https://www.bmswlaw.com/blog-1-1/how-massachusetts-handles-insanity-defenses-in-murder-trials>Who Bears the Burden of Proof in an Insanity Defense?>Unlike most defenses, where the defendant must raise reasonable doubt, in Massachusetts, the Commonwealth has the burden of proving criminal responsibility beyond a reasonable doubt once the defense is properly raised.>In practice, this means:> If the defense offers credible evidence of mental illness, such as expert psychiatric testimony, the prosecution must prove the defendant was not legally insane at the time of the crime. > This burden applies even if the defendant admits committing the act—as long as the evidence raises a legitimate question about mental state.>This is crucial. It means the prosecution has to go beyond proving what happened—they must also prove that the defendant understood it and had control at the time.
This guy was found not guilty by reason of insanity after strangling his sonhttps://www.kcci.com/article/iowa-courts-matthew-schleier-not-guilty-sons-murder-insanity/71142494
>>541936429>Judge yesterday gave them the Tuey-Rodriguez instruction.That's way better than the Huey-Menendez instruction. Or the Gooey-Kablooey instruction.
>>541945831You are correct, but this is the kicker here:>they must also prove that the defendant understood it and had control at the time.It's pretty open and shut here that she was in control of herself and planned out the murders meticulously. She even admitted to telling her children that she was "releasing them to God." She knew she was killing them, planned the killings, and intentionally went through with the killings. The fact there is doubt, even in Massachusetts, is beyond my personal comprehension.
Perhaps this is Hell…https://youtu.be/bvKYHZF316Q?is=_GGGykD0Iw3aKuc6
>>541946051people in psychosis are capable of making plans based upon their delusions.
>>541945968You seem particularly dense so let me spell it out for you. The majority here think people like you should either rot in prison your entire lives or be executed. I dont give a fuck if it is a man or woman. If you kill someone, especially your own kids, you should rot. You can keep wish galloping a bunch of cases all you want to. It doesn't change it. The very fact you find it confusing shows a lot about your mentality. Like you cant believe some people just want murderers to be punished or that they dont have some ingroup preference that dictates people like them should get special treatment
>>541946147>people in psychosis are capable of making plans based upon their delusions.How many murderers does this apply to? A pretty large number of them. All the crack-heads and meth-addicts that murder people can say they were under the influence of the drug and hallucinating. Manson would be mentally unfit for trial. Ted Bundy, Dahmer ... most serial killers. There is a reason the standard for the insanity defense is very strict. You can absolutely find bullshit cases like the one in Iowa where idiot judges do stupid shit because they know the family or the judge might be some bleeding heart liberal who thinks everyone can be reformed. But just because some asshole in Iowa got to kill his kid doesn't mean some retarded foid with the baby blues should get off with murdering her entire family.
>>541936831Zimmerman threads were peak pol
>>541946626>lunch
>>541940041She didn't want kids anymore
>>541936429holdout is one black male juror insisting she's guilty
I'm sure you're not, (((Jacob))).
Oh my dear fucking God, the holdout is the one saying she's guilty... Is sanity really so rare in Massachusetts?
>>541947292>holdout is one black male juror insisting she's guiltyIf this turns out to be true, and if he holds firm, I will never use the word nigger again.
>lol
>>541943489i'm also okay with #6 and then #7 once it's empty
>>541947726>>541947951he doesn't care about the murder he just hates white women that's why we need to support this foid bros
>>541947292>holdout is one black male juror insisting she's guiltyThis is an apocalyptic moment for liberals. In order to preserve the ability of white women to murder children, they have to silence a black man. I can't wait to see how this turns out.
>>541948949Don't care. This would be a healing moment for race relations in this country. 1 black dude cares more about white children than 9 women and 2 white dudes. The absolute state of white liberalism.
>>541937455>It's another humiliation/demoralization ritual for menI don't get why they are doing this right now, they need us to fight a big war here soon sounds counter productive.
>at no point was she ever described as psychotic by a professional before the slayings>its now up to 12 idiots to determine her mental state at the exact moment she started killing them>basically discounting all evidence that it was planned because that's also part of psychosisI may be retarded but...
This happened 3 fookin years ago?
>>541940041>woman spends whole life getting paid to not work as a nurse>has kids>actually has responsibility for the first time in her life>repeatedly states how much she needs to go back to work>decides its the kids who are a problem>overcome with guilt and womans up the suicide attempt
>>541937266Ngl cancer describes me well, god bless neet life
Why do you even have juries?
>>541940041She's evil spiteful bitch who planned the whole thing with a clear mind.
i think she did it
>>541949611>>overcome with guiltShame, not guilt/remorse.
What the FUCK is his problem
>>541949905Agree I’m glad someone else recognizes that. She’s not wracked with guilt she’s embarrassed
>>541948963>>541949038he doesn't care about the white children or murder in fact he's happy the children died and the woman will be in jail not making moreshe's still a white woman bros we should stick with our own not some dirty nigger
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>>541937266Nixon was a capricorn
