How can Russia and Europe reverse the escalation without either one collapsing?
Drop support for Ukraine and demilitarize it
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xz622vM5Mec
>>541940503The dronings will continue until morale improves.
>>541940430Arrest all the wealthy Jews, then there won't be anyone advocating for war or hiring people to
>>541940430Jew-servile traitors like Putin, Lavrov, and Medvedev need to be deported to Israel since they love it so much.
>>5419404301. Russia stops threatening nukenings on weekly basis2. Russia stops hybridwar vs Europe3. Russia stops attack against UkraineThere is nothing Europe has to do, as Europe is simply reacting against the threat. Simple as.
To begin a dialogue both need to start recognizing each other's security concerns, no matter how sily they may sound. That could be a start.
By the West no longer propping up a degenerate manlet kike who is hell bent on getting millions of Ukrainians slaughtered while he replaces them with jeets and niggers. Faggot euros forget that it is the West that threw the tantrum that led to Putin taking Crimea. Faggot euros also forget that western Ukraine spent 10 years bombing civilians in eastern Ukraine because they did not want to be part of a country where their vote means nothing if George Soros and other western oligarchs don’t like it. Ukraine needs to be absorbed by Russia so sanity can be restored and degeneracy ended.
>>541940430That’s a good question it seems to be just getting more tense with no lessons learned or systems changed like every world war!
>>541940430peace talks would've started if Putin didn't keep asking for the entirety of the Donbas and just froze it where it was but it's his new military objective that's why he set his 15th* deadline for it. I reckon if/once they get it he'll be ready for peace talks and hopes to walk away to his people spouting a military victory.
>>541940671>1. reddit>2. more reddit>3. even more redditNATO started that mess and they can fuck off at any time to end it. There was 2022 peace deal in Turkey, but NATO said "NO" and threw hunderds of billions on Israeli proxy called Ukraine.
>>541940671If Russia can not protect Russian speakers it means the collapse of the country. Donbass declared independence on a referendum after 8 years of struggles, it is not even Ukraine anymore. So that is not an option.
Russia nuke all of Europe. That solves all the problems in one fell swoop
>>541940430Total death of Ukraine.
>>541940430wait for russia to get better
>>541940817freezing is simply a tactical trick to stop Russia advancing. I don’t see how it will lead to de-escalation.
>>541940430It's gone to far. Should have though about that before. There is no backing out now.
>>541941138Like when?
>>541940430STOP WARMONGERING YOU FUCKING KIKES
>>541940430the war is what keeps them alive. nobody ever needed those kikes.
>>541941117Starting ground for actual peace talks. >acting like Russia wouldn't use the freeze to sort out its fucked up army>flagkill yourself brownoid.
>>541941726you are not contributing much to the OP question, may be only a bad example
>>541941798>flag againde-escalate by escalating glass russia TZD
Both should skip to surrendering to China.
>>541940430Russia invades China instead.
>>541940430All of Ukraine and Baltics + Poland tip and relations will magically reset.
>>541940915Not a single Nato country has attacked Russia though.
>>541940430I don't want de escalation, I want TZD, they threatened and insulted me in all sort of ways and I'd rather suffer than pass as a pussyfag
>>541940993niggerthe biggest treath to Russian speakers IS Russia
>>541940430Im sorry Vladimir.This is the future you chose.There is no turning back now.Your life will end on the Noose.This is how it ends for men like you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox_JZxXSzGE
>>541942611the desperation to adopt talmund values by nafoids is pathetic to witness
>>541940788>By the West no longer propping up a degenerate manlet kike who is hell bent on getting millions of Ukrainians slaughtered while he replaces them with jeets and niggers.Legit thought you are talking about President Shelomov before the next sentence classified you as VPN Zigger.
>>541940430you think europe is gonna collapse over the war in ukraine?
>>541940430French-russian nuclear waste recycling on banks' island
>>541943236Ziggers will call out other nations for taking nigger immigrants in then pledge allegiance to literal nigger nations cause no one else likes them anymore, brainlet fsb wumaos fuck off from this board
>541943500seething incoherent nonsense
>>541943378you think Russia will collapse over the war in Ukraine?
>>541943676eventually yeah
>>541943705How do you imagine it? What would be the reasons?
>>541940915I mean, I can't really blame you. If I lived in Russia, I'd probably too be a brainwashed retard grasping at straws to justify this incredibly gay and retarded war that will claim the lives of million russians and ukranians after everything is said and done. Anything to be able to look yourself in the mirror in the morning.
>>541943798economic reasons
>>541943798It's not a functional society. There are like 200 different ethnicities many of which could have their own country. If nationalism rises even a bit like it's doing in Europe.
>>541944062isn’t russian economy doing much better than EU at the moment in terms of growth?
>>541944139No? They're not progressing anywhere by making guns and missiles.
>>541940430Pudding. This conflict like so many others can be resolved by a simple warm hearted exchange of puddings with assorted toppings to choose from
>>541943236Russniggers adpot values of quoran. Kys Ivan
>>541940671Merkel herself said Minsk agreements were signed so the west could arm Ukraine and prepare it for war with Russia. Europe started this mess, Russia was trying to avoid it as much as it could.Also, could you post an example of a nuclear‑arms threat made by a Russian official? You didn’t just pull this idea from your imagination, did you?
>>541944139Here's a 5 year graph of EU vs russia, and one of them is a war economy. Stop reading russian mainstream goy state-media.
>>541944403>being proud the EU is owned by Blackrock
>>541940430You think russia or europe are in charge but they are jew puppets all the same. It will stop when the rothschilds order it to stop
>>541944309since when do nafoids have problem with islam considering turkey. albania are major nato members and islam is protected religion in UK, germany, sweden, italy and many other western countries
>>541940671>Europe is simply reacting against the threatThe coup in 2014 didn't happen.The US didn't install anti-russian puppet goverment.West hasn't fucked up every chance to negotiate.Two more weeks.
>>541944403Stonks don't tell the full story but even a monkey brain should know that a country that is balls deep war economy, sending their workforce to die, like 25% of all industry is on war efforts, is sanctioned by the richest countries in the world.
>>541944399>Europe started this messCIA orchestrated the 2014 coup.This is just another US mess.
>>541940430>He doesn't realize we are living in a 1984 tier dystopia.They'll switch sides and they'll call it a day like it is nothing, that's how.
>>541944671>no you>but your trash is worse than our trashLol obsessed
>>541940788>Faggot euros forget that it is the West that threw the tantrum that led to Putin taking Crimeaenlighten me how the west caused the east to claim it's lands?
>>541944716>>541944787Kuole ryssä.
>>541945012Go to the frontline already tranny
>>541940430No way, yurop is already finished and the best thing they can do is shift their market to Asia before EUSSR turned into a scorched field and has been completely sacrificed to the ZOG. Which is, in fact, what they're doing right now
>>541944895I guess brown brain cannot comprehend hypocrisy and double standards which makes it enter perpetual chimp out mode
>How ca-
>>541945116No the only hypocrisy is that you say Russia is supposed to be Romania's and eastern europe's friend when all your history was attack us, what did UK, Albania ever do to us? Kys retarded russnigger. Even the turks didn't attack us since ww1 but you always attack us. Fuck off wished Hitler exterminated all of you. Never forget the sovroms
>>541940430By getting the fuck out of Ukraine
>>541940430Demilitarize russia and divide it among neighbouring countries.
>>541944895>Clean streets and religious people>OH THE HORROR!Meanwhile nafotroons celebrate this
>>541946013Is that america? I see MIGA is doing amazing yeah
>>541940430Neither can, this is it. Russia ascends from gaining the vast resources and territory, or it crumbles. The same for the West, it either wins and benefits from a crumbling Russia, or crumbles apart from a loss that destroyed its military power and projection.
>>541940642/Thread. Add freemasons.
>>541946504Russia can’t crumble more, it is already in its minimum form.
>>541947313>he says when just a few years back russia had a separatism war against chechens
>>541940430Why should we be friends with communist dictatorships? It's better to die with honor than to live like a slave under some Stalin/Beria like nightmare.
I think we're doing fine by having Russia engage in this shitty war with their former ally. Russia is rotting inside and all glory for NAFO or whatever.
>>541944787The only coup that happened was by Yanukovich after he poisoned his opponent Yushenko
>>541940430US needs to stop funding Ukraine. Everything else will die down. Europe doesn't have the means to support Ukraine.
>>541949176Why? Russia should lose. They deserve it.
>>541940754>security concernsThat's a veiled expression for "our imperialist interests in our neighbourhood"
>>541949176They already did and Russia is STILL LOSING. LOL what a shithole Russia is. No wonder they have high suicide rate. What losers.
>>541940671>Just let us genocide Donbass and Novorossiya
>>541949394So why are SBU and HRU in open public combat?Why is Odessa corridor shut down? Why is Kiev begging Turks and Arabs to send envoys to Russia?
>>541940788Blablabla shut the fuck up faggotIf Donbas Russoshits didn't want to be in Ukraine they had a simple choice: scram to Russia.Plenty of land there.But no they had to sit there and cause a stink, because that was part of the plan.
>>541949563Status of Strait of Hormuz? Bro you lost in Iran why you even responding to me? Go to strait of hormuz and open it up PRONTO. Your country is so pathetic you literally went from world power to loser status in 2 years LOL.
>>541949502How were they genocided?
>>541940544
>>541940430Many ways. But europe doesn't want to. Russia must sterben is the motto and always will be.Wait gor the armenian backstabbing
>>541949502Nothing of value was lost, just a bunch of Russhits
>>541940430>without either one collapsingThat's antisemitic
>>541943377>t. not an argument>>541944958Sure. EU cucks wanted Ukraine to sign an economic deal with the EU. Ukraine signed an economic deal with Russia instead. Assmad westerners staged a revolution and overthrew the elected government of Ukraine because they didn’t get their way, just like a toddler flips the checker board when they’re losing. So Putin took over Crimea to preserve the security of the Black Sea Fleet since Ukraine’s new government was blatantly anti-Russia and was backed by a bunch of degenerate westerners. Western Ukraine then spent years bombing civilians in Eastern Ukraine who wanted to be part of Russia because their votes don’t count when westerners just overthrow the government when they don’t get their way. Putin got sick of it and invaded to stop the terrorism being waged against ethnic Russians in Ukraine by a bloodthirsty kike president.>>541949599> Boohoo leave muh Ukraine alone you filthy russhits!Lol no.
>>541950551>Assmad westerners staged a revolutionWesteners can't stage a revolution on their own. If we could we would have turned all North Korea, Iran, China and Russia. We need peoples' support. And that's what happened in Ukraine, the people were pissed off at their Russian puppet masters.
>>541940430Unironically call me on zoom or whatever.One representative from each country, we set the date, they give me their talking points/wants/needs.Give me a few days to read and ponder and I will guarantee a good outcome fpr both parties.Of course, this isn't the interest of the iron grip. But if you want to, find me and set it up.I have no hallucinations of grandeur nor do I want money or fame for it.
>>541949878So why did you run to Romania
>>541950878So why did the separatists immediately start killing your ATO soldiers after the Banderites who did the trades Union warehouse massacre in Odessa In fact why did your bitches retreat in mass except their recapture of Mariupol?
>>541951137I just explained why. There was a revolution that the west supported. No need to go to specific details. That's what a revolution looks like.
>>541940915Enjoy drones flying into Moscow apartments and probably you getting drafted next year. I’m so tired of your fucking country. You’re like the emo kids of the world just blow yourselves up and fuck off.
>>541951079Ca s-o fut pe mă-ta care tot vine in vacanța la Constanța
>>541940430Demilitarized zone, make a peace conference in Turkey, also citizens should put pressure on their governments to stop the warmongering.
>>541940671>Literally Russia Russia RussiaIt takes 2 sides to make peace unfortunately, your crude mindset will destroy your life and the whole world with it.>>541940754Truthnuke, NATO needs to pull back a little and Russia should pull out of Ukraine, ideally both countries would pull out of Ukraine and the UN could make sure no foreign bases are there, but more realistically a large demilitarized zone could work with inspections.
Or maybe an East and West Germany type situation could resolve the conflict + a demilitarized zone, unfortunate for the Ukranians but they got themselves in this mess and risking a broader conflict would be unthinkable. the Ukranian government has also become too rabid and may need to be tamed by parts of it's own military if it doesn't tone down it's unrealistic rhetoric inflaming tensions in the region.
>>541949280>They deserve it.Who even asked your opinion?
>>541952100On 4chan and in the west we can state our opinion. Like why did you even say "who asked lol"? Because I can.
>>541952726>in the westYou live in Finland.
>>541954441Are supposed to be Russia or what?
>>541951427Cool, your revolution got fucked so hard by coal miners who rejected it
>>541952726Ya go ahead and say you don’t want anymore Somalians
>>541944129Russia actually did multi culturalism right. Let different cultures have their own sections.
Europe as it currently is will cease to exist. Nothing currently standing will remain.
>>541940671>stop ignoring themthey warned prior to the SMO for yeeaaarss.. For decades they warned about what consequences a breach would mean for all parties involved.Whats a military good for if you don't use it and stick to your word. They were torturing Russian people.NATO are homos. Mark Rutte as frontman, all you need to know. There is no middle ground. Politics are very simple. This is a holy war (it really is).Quite literally good vs evil. All they do is deceive but lies don't like like truth does, and Russia will remain ever so.
last*
The whole foundation of ukraine is build on lies. Lies upon lies. Stacked higher and higher. Its going to come crashing down like the tower of babylon
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Reminder all the zhills here and the midget at the Kremlim have be dedovshchinaed multiple times for "failing the team", they are discount trons.
>>541955853Link your AO3 account, so we can read more of your faggot fanfics.
>>541940754russia is not entitled to geopolitical influence, regional influence, or security guarantees.this ends with collapse of soviet union 2.0 and you will like it because russians are goycattle who never complain about their misery
de-escalate by nuking russiathey have time and time again demonstrated they are subhumans and are incompatible with europe
>>541940430Russia does not need to reverse anything, after ukraine is done europe will pay reparations to usa, russia and ukraineEurope is a paypig, its not a player
>>541940430Let's sacrifice Ukranda for peace. It's not worth ruining ourselves over it.
>>541940430Let the russoids have the territory they took. Pack the rest of ukraine with nukes and whatever else weapons are neccessary.
>>541940430like all russian revolutions... you kill your current leaders and put people back that are 5 times worse
Russia could stop invading its neighbours
Nuke the central business district of London. That will send a clear enough message to the perfidious islanders. But Putin will not do that. He is their asset and controlled opposition. Putin is as much the problem as Zelensky. They are just acting out different roles in the effort of making continentals kill each other.
>>541940430The entire, and I mean literally, russian federal elite and the rich class is jewish. Every single one has either a mother or father or grandparent that is jewish. It's even worse in ukraine where hohols are just meat. Europe is pathetic in only 1 way: it forgot its roots. It is true europes success was always from the exploitation of others. From Rome farming north afrika and egypt for wheat to european asian spice trade. What europe is best at is war. That is what we do. Women are wagie cucks, men provide the resources aka war. And europe is also ruled by, though less than russia and US, by jews.
>>541940671Russia already won
>russia somehow collapsing EuropeXDDDDDDDD
>>541940430The elites need to go. Normal people don't want any of that shit.
>>541940430EUSSR is on path of collapse with or without Russia in the picture Russia, China and USA can accelerate it though everyone can make a profit on eurofaggot scum
>>541940671>swamptranny regurgitates gayto propagandaRussia should crush you faggots next
We can't. Russia will collapse and then all will return to normal in Europe.
>>541940430kill every jew, simple as wonderful
>>541940430It's not happening. Everyone denies the state of affairs and just wants to go back to normalcy. Since they can't they put the blame on some one bad actor, with whose elimination they can finally go back to how things were. They can't. No one can. Things will never be the same and the politicians/media all around the world (and tendies on the web who slurp up their drivel) are the most delusional about it.
but i want the hybrid conflict to continue. normalcy is fake and gay, we need chaos, hard times so that people like me stop being lazy bums. i want forced drafts and curfews and guerrilla resistance, not for le accelerationism meme, but because peace breeds sloth. we need ACTION!
