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Where do Kings come from? What made an entire population bow to one man?
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>>541984829
Power resides where men believe it resides. It’s a trick. A shadow on the wall.
THREAD THEME
https://youtu.be/XiMrrleH_hI
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Self-proclaimed kings declare themselves rightful rulers based on very little actual evidence but none of that matters because they have the military power to force people to obey them and so their weird claims to divinity are established as tradition
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>>541984829
They enslaved entire euro continent.
They also hanged or killed other way people who ever tried to oppose them.
And then they merged with the Vatican and banking , and big oil.

Today you are finanial / debt and energy slave of theirs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchies_in_Europe
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>>541984829
They come from warlords who passed down their territory and possessions to their sons. Basically just a rich guy whose (great)grand)dad was good at fighting and commanding other soldiers.

Property rights basically just ensure something like a king will emerge and if you don't have property rights you just get turmoil. Eventually this codified into a sort of meme ideology where people think the king is a lot more special than he really is, but generally kings were just like landlords and governors and whatnot.
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>>541984829
look man sometimes they take power sometimes people give them power. It's complicated.
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>>541985160
>just a rich guy whose (great)grand)dad was good at fighting and commanding other soldiers.
No. That's a nice story.
The real story is slightly different,
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>>541984829
>"After the kingship descended from heaven, the kingship was in Eridug."
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>>541984829
The redpill is people want to be lead. They'd rather obey someone else's bad decisions and blame them when it goes to shit than to make their own decisions and be responsible for the outcomes.
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>>541984829
Natural form of governance. If you understand how a family unit works, you implicitly understand how a kingdom works, a tall order in a world without the internet or school systems. You only get more advanced forms of organization after the cheifton/kingdom system was found wanting, often after periods of protracted petty power squabbles amongst elites, that forced man to look elseware for organizing themselves
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>>541985251
The original king/lord obviously had to be good at war. Just think about it.
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>>541984829
"bow to one man" is a fantasy like the "alpha male" fucking all the women. kings have to appeal to groups of men just like alphas otherwise they have zero power
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>>541984829
>Where do Kings come from?
Inherited from birth and given their rights by God. You cannot become a king, you can only inherit it. The first conqueror of a country is always just an ordinary dictator; only his decedents can be kings.
>What made an entire population bow to one man?
Instinct? Humans naturally form hierarchies around one strong man because it's the natural extension of the family (dad in charge, everyone subservient to him).
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>>541984829
It's just a word. Being a king has a very different meaning in Bhutan compared to UK or Saudi Arabia. And these are post-medieval kings. Early antiquity had priest kings. Ireland had high kings. Croatia had elective kings.
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>>541984829
humans exist
humans do
while democracy is fiction
we were kangs
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>>541984829
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/s6pL7dRKG_k
>0:30
Jumpstart cutthroats who killed the right amount of people (usually other jumpstart cutthroats) then had enough sense to use the threat of military force they once used to keep any new jumpstarts in line.
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>>541985420
That's all they were good at, killing people.
That's why the Western Euro continent can't compete economically,
and is currently economically collapsing .
While they tried to rob USA, and to start a war and rob Russia one more time.
They can't compete economically.
You need brains to compete economically, they can't because for a few centuries they were killing brains.
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>>541984829
kings lead their kin within their kingdom
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>how do hierarchies form
over time
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>>541985713
This is rather silly. The kings of Europe presided over the largest empires to ever exist and the greatest expansion of scientific and technological knowledge in history. This gave way to non-monarchical forms of government but this idea that the countries with kings "killed all their brains" is totally absurd.
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>>541984829
People didn't bow to kings, 99% of people just lived off the land and didn't care about their retarded euro rituals, they couldn't care less what king they had that's why European empires constantly invaded each other and claimed territory without much issue
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>>541985713
This applies to all countries, retard.
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>>541984829
elite bloodlines go back thousands of years
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>>541984829
Kings are from The White Race all the way from David and beyond, a sign that The White Race are God's Chosen People
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>>541984829
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>>541984829
From God.
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>>541984829
Monarchy is the natural order of society
We are meant to be ruled by powerful, God-fearing men

Modern "democracy" and republics were a huge mistake and the real reason why the western world went to shit
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>>541986064
>The White Race all the way from David
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>>541984829
Kings are the father's of nations. It is as natural as the father being head of household. A kingdom is just a larger family.

Read Robert Filmer's Patriarcha for a more detailed explanation.
https://annas-archive.gl/md5/412fcd3275528528cdc69ede2e864779

Nations that forget the divine right of kings end up exterminated by their own government. Western democracies are all exterminating their own populations. Japan is being exterminated after less than 100 years of democracy.
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>>541985268
Only real answer itt
Kingship comes from God and it descended in Eridu
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>>541985902
At that time. Theres a reason they're no longer ruling.
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All civilizations were built by monarchy. Not a single tribal group ever came up with democracy or republicanism and turned into a civilization.

Democracy/republicanism and all forms of leftist are evil ideologies which can only infect and destroy already existing civilizations.
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>>541986076
Yeah, politically it's where organized religion and the state are most mingled, thus both are more susceptible to corruption.
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>>541984829
Whites and all other ethnics groups were bred as slavers over thousands of years.
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>>541984829
Most people never had a concept of that, most people were peasants who just farmed
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>>541984829
My family descended from Poland's most incompetent King
iykyk
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Freedom forever, you hear me?
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>>541984829
Kings come from families with alot of wealth/power/influence.
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>>541986492
>Theres a reason they're no longer ruling.
Because Jews killed or subverted all the monarchs.
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>>541984829
The man lead his people to victory, and his people lifted him up
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>>541987050
And why didnt these so called enlightened monarchs let Jews do it? Are they stupid or something?
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>>541987141
So it would seem. They clearly degenerated. The technological changes also created opportunities for these kinds of infiltrations
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>>541987141
A king is just one guy. The weakest and smallest form of government. Very easy to subvert.

Democracy is big government. Difficult or impossible to overthrow. Totalitarian in scope. Invades every aspect of private life.

We are being exterminated by Jews because of our lack of loyalty to our kings. Our wickedness stupidity and selfishness has doomed us.
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>>541984829
Most people are so retarded and incapable of fending for themselves that it's very easy for halfway competent people to convince others that they're a god of some kind and they take over.
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In monarchy literal slaves were taxed 20%.

Now that we are free us super free non-slaves with freedom and rights get taxed ~50%.
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>>541987308
If you're so good at fending for yourself why do you pay more taxes than a subject in a monarchy?
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>>541984829
Kings come from the willingness of their subjects to follow them, and to coerce the unwilling into compliance.

The king does not arrest a murderer. The king does not build the jail. The king does not even collect, or often times even see, the taxes.

But this does not make kings fake. Social constructs are real and absolutely rule your life.
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>>541984829
divine authority.

all kings are men that God himself chose to lead his people (of different lands and tongues)

only those who God has chosen can lead a nation, those that are free.
jews can't be kings because they are not free, they are under bondage (i.e. the law of moses), but they can participate in the king selection if they have Gods guidance, that said, since the time of Jesus onwards, no jew has had Gods guidance, only those that converted to Christianity, and only those jews can become kings and priests, along with the gentiles that are christians.

in other words, only christians can become kings (or priests) because only they can survive the selection process, and the selection process is very dangerous.
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>>541984829
Generations of wealth hording.
It started with who had the most food.
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>>541984829
Initially, strength and charisma. Eventually the institution evolved to incorporate religious elements, and it peaked with the age of absolutism and the divine right to rule.
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>>541987455
I really do wonder what goes through the mind of people who unironically believe this.
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>>541987420
>What do you expect from people who couldn't even read
you're confusing the modern languages and letters to the writings of ancient peoples, there's a reason why most people couldn't read, words/letters/scripts were/are literal magic, most modern alphabets were designed to strip the power from writing and leave distilled version of the text.

the way things were written could drive you insane, and even nowadays, if you were to delve too deep into the ancient text you may end up going insane or worse.

that said, now we have the bible to bring people back from the brink of death and madness so all's well.
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>>541985101
It's funny because he's talking about a midget
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>>541984829
War. Tippy top dog. The guy who others followed. Then of course sneaky puppets got crowned
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>>541987548
if you read your own holy scripts you'd know, but since you're so detached from your roots you can only wonder.

you have no frame of reffrence because you've abandoned your God and are alien to the truth.
c'est la vie
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>>541986471
before Christianity the Kings in Europe would say something like they descended from Hercules. If you look further back the state was form from religous claims to land before even the Egytians were around such as Gobekli Tepe.
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>>541987481
Retarded and wrong. Merchants were frequently richer than kings but didn't have noble or royal titles.

Kings are born. Our ancestors were smart enough to understand the importance of bloodlines. A man can be bred for leadership just like a chicken can be bred for egg laying.
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>>541984829
Think about it for a minute, might settles all disputes. Alpha male destroys the beta cucks? He gets the puss and the power and kills the beta cucks if they don't like it. Now scale this to a nation and you got a king mostly, only it's a little gayer because everyone wants to appear "civilized" when not at war at least.
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>>541987768
They probably said the same thing back then.

And they wonder why people stopped believing it.
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>>541984829
>Where do Kings come from?
god
> What made an entire population bow to one man?
fear of a violent death.
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>>541986289
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>>541987050
>>541987267
Extremely based monarchist leaf
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prince andrew next in line to be king
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Medieval Kings were "elected" or at least ruled by the consent of their leading nobles. Hereditary kingships were not an exception and the son had to be generally acceptable to be named a successor. Both non hereditary and hereditary kings were named by the German Emperor (who was an elected king) to curry favor with regional powers which gave us the King of Bohemia and the King of Hungary.
A king as the supreme authority who ruled with "self-sovereignty" accountable to no one is a later Renaissance and Early Modern concept.
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>>541987972
I remember someone saying a lot of people who were kings or in positions of power at least in Europe have significant steppe ancestry from the original Indo Europeans.

Coz you know those guys are more violent, warlike and most importantly aggressively assertive so people think they must be someone important.
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>>541987650
>too stupid to see beyond the knee-jerk literal meaning
Oh, okay.
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>>541988137
I think it's kind of a meme. There is huge variation in such traits even between literal brothers
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It's an extension of nature. Big animals force smaller males off their territory and mate with the females. A king is that but intelligent and social so he makes his subordinates the big animals of their own domains. Our sense of legacy and inheritance means that dynasties are the default form of government.
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>>541984829
They come from god.
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>>541984829
Royalty derives from having served as a companion with Alexander or having been a a high level state functionary in late rome (all barbarian warlords were essentially given patrician status, some were even magister militums). Many of these bloodlines have since been usurped, these bloodlines are not royal.

The real royal bloodlines stem from Alexanders companions though. His conquest superseded the previous royal lines. The Roman ones are legitimate but less so.

Modern kings from shitholes are not legitimate because they are established under colonial rule, save for a few.
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>>541984829
Homo Erectus is an aquatic ape. Uprightness is an adaptation to swimming and living a semi aquatic life. It is intuitively obvious and provable that the actual speciation which occurs among higher apes is the ability to swim and stand upright. When I say swim I do not mean dog paddle like Michael Phelps, but as a method obligated to a fully upright resting posture. There is nothing incorrect or pathological about the appearance of Akhenaten. He is a good example of an upright ape. What we call Homo Erectus is more correctly identified by the event we point to in which the ape survived by standing upright. Uprightness is the most robust configuration for optimal cognitive function. He does not use his hands to walk. His brain, which evolved for balancing on two legs, is equally useful for abstraction. If communication is but a tool for pointing with words, it is easy to understand why the upright primate, which is the tool wielding species, will utilize language to establish order among communities. It was made possible therefore to use language as a recursive extension of his cognitive domain. The dominance hierarchy for the upright primate was able to extend beyond Erectus alone.
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>>541984829
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>>541984829
They do ancestry like "I am descended from the royal house of David" Except here theyre descended to a guy named WODAN or OLAF or STRONGBOW..Basically along time ago white people were doing some wicked shit to each other, rape rob kill steal club your own grandma. We were a cannibal aboriginal land race...But then a few guys came up like the Ghengis Khan and just happened to be big enough to back up the talk about a united front of protection pacts. So if you descended from a 8 foot tall battleborne you get to be king. but before if you were a 8 ft tall battleborne you were excepted as king because of your melee combat ability, decision making and basic ability to protect your pack. Basically alpha wolves.
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>>541987886
And now merchants are in control of the world. Notice how how the rise of capitalism coincided with the fall of monarchies.
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>>541987880
>Gobekli Tepe
You don't know that, you just made that up as they didn't write down anything
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Hobbes was a sore loser faggot basedboy
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>>541988091
There's a statue to the loyalists in front of the Hamilton Ontario city hall. When I was a child I thought they were not cool but as an adult I know that loyalty is wise and brave.
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>>541991617
All writing originates as heiroglyphs. so they wrote shit and were talking about an ancient bird man cult religion obviously.
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Kings are gods way of smiling down upon a land and building a hedge around it. A hereditary ruler means power struggle and politics is widely pointless, thus the state is generally very secure and stable. The only risk is despotism but a healthy church works symbiotically to both legitimise the king and also to impose limits on his power.
You get rid of monarchy/church and the state falls victim to the most powerful lobby or interest group. This is why separation of church and state so often produces the integration of synagogue and state.
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>>541992042
We cant track the birdman cult its so old but we can get a sense of it of what they were even talking about as it seems to survive as artifacts of cultural exchanges in most modern religions and cultures, showing how prolific this imagined bird man cult must have been.
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>>541992421
https://www.bigdrum.us/an-ancient-krsna-tradition-in-the-west/
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>>541984829
The mandate to rule descends from Heaven. Simple as.
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>Rome has fallen
>The land is lawless
>Warlord who controlled warbands roams around
>Eventually they managed to conquer land.
>Land was then passed on to sons who expanded it.
>Eventually so big the warlord himself could no longer controll all of it.
>He appointed a warrior to rule a section of the land for him.
>In exchange for the land, the warrior swears loyalty to the warlord
>And to support the warlord in war
>Now the warlord can rule over even greater areas.
>And with increasingly more powerful subjects.

>This does not make him a king however.
>He needs divine legitimacy to be a king
>Hmm there is this religious institution "the church" in Rome with a lot of power
>Church also wants to increase its power
>Church and warlord has a sitdown
>"Yo bro, I'll proclaim your rule to be divine right, and you let me tax your subjects" says the pope.
>"Great" says the warlord "I can also use this to legitimize conquering more territory"
>"Yes" says the priest. "We will both expand our influence this way".

>Fast forward

>Even greater territory is now under the kings thumb
>This has actually created safety for the commoners; no more raiders
>With safety comes stability
>With stability comes increased movements of people and goods.
>Trade routes can now operate without being pillaged
>Some trade posts along coasts and rivers suddenly attracts a lot of people
>Trade post suddenly becomes a weird concentration of dwellers. Thousands of people even !
>This place is bringing in a lot of coin for me
>I need to defend this place
>And to project my power
>Lets build this massive structure with walls and towers where I will live. A symbol of my power, and a defence to my realm
>I Am King

There you go.
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>>541992220
>You get rid of monarchy/church and the state falls victim to the most powerful lobby

The Final Olaf Olaf the good is famous for shoving hot pokers up peoples asses for refusal for conversion to the church and away from Paganism my dude.

Your opinion sounds like justification after the fact and a bit naive
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>>541987880
Monarchs today are the descendants of the Nephilim, and the real kings bear the mark of Cain.

There are many "fake kings" today, kings with no royal blood. But these "fake kings" still pledge their loyalty to real kings.
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>>541992220
Yeah the king provides the important service of gathering up all the power and holding on to it so everyone else has to interact consensually. Monarchy is a libertarian paradise. The king can't possibly interfere with everyone's business the way a democracy can. Democracies accumulate infinite regulations and end up with half the population as government employees.

>Until August 1914 a sensible, law-abiding Englishman could pass through life and hardly notice the existence of the state, beyond the post office and the policeman
>-- A. J. P. Taylor’s English History, 1914-1945:
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>>541987880
>before Christianity the Kings in Europe
name few
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>>541984829
Strange women, laying in ponds, distributing swords on at least several occasions.
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"You and the land are one. Drink. Drink from the chalice and you will be reborn, and the land with you."
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>>541995171
lel the retard jeet/cohens cannot get AI answers. There were kings in europe who claimed previous ancestry of rulers, not greek mythos.
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>>541984829
They Come from my erect fire hose of power, and behold I make thee a king representative of Jupiter on Earth my son.
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>>541998115
mutt education, please understand
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>>541984829
The era of kings is over. Dictators are the future.
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>>541984829
I used to want to be a king. Now I just want to be a glorious dictator.
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>>541984829
old money
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>Hail Ptah, O Flame of Flames, who came forth from Ta Ur, the Ancient Land, I have not oppressed, I have not been a tyrant...
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The Divine Right is given by Reason.
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>>541991051
Materialist bs
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>>541984829
You will never have a king that isnt Jeffery Epstein.
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americans bow to niggers explain that
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>>541984829
Jealous?
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>>542003318
You can either have natural hierarchy where a king is exalted or you can have inverted hierarchy where the lowest life forms are exalted. When you choose equality you are choosing inverted hierarchy.

American founders wanted equality so now blacks really are modern day kings. They can kill white people without punishment. They decide what words you are allowed to say or not say. Productive men are taxed to pay for relaxed lives of self indulgence for blacks. They get to carry weapons like fully automatic glocks and show their weapons online which the non-black peasantry would be arrested for having.
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>>541984829
>be peasant
>the roman empire just collapsed
>bandits and barbarians are looting everything
>go to a warlord
>offer a part of your produce as payment for protection
>monarchy is born
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>>541984829
kings evolve out of warlords and generals which in turn evolve out of natural and military leaders. make it hereditary and you got royal dynasties.
PS: merchants can't ever be kings. sorry elon.
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>>541991051
Nigger brain



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