Well, explain yourself, enlightened Westerner.
>>541986186So you just like to punish people for things outside their control? Face it, you're not building a system for humans, you're building a slaughterhouse
>>541986186Not guilty by reason of insanity means they spend the rest of their life in a psychiatric ward rather than a prison, not that they go free
>>541986606Oh, then I guess this trial barely matters then
>>541986511Is this supposed to be a counter argument? Humanity for people with no humanity? Are you stupid?
>>541986186Funny story actually... it used to be that if you claimed insanity you were relinquishing your rights to the state and would then become a ward of the state in a mental asylum. But republicans in the 90's dismantled the entire function of a state run asylum in favor of privatization. Corps then decided there was no benefit to their shareholders having two separate facilities and combined mental asylums with the prisons. Now that we have our prisons stuffed to the gils with potheads, most crazy people are put on the streets since being crazy isnt a crime that shareholders like to profit off of because it looks bad.
>>541986186Reason of Insanity is reserved for people who genuinely believe what they did was the right thing to do and is supposed to lock them away in a more friendly and caring environment than the criminal college we call prison. It is overwhelmingly used incorrectly as a defense and it's meaning has become completely worthless anyway.The entire judicial system is a farce and a wealth extraction system above all else. This trial is one of many that will errode law and order completely over the coming years. You can't show a decent teenage boy with a soul that the justice system lets women kill children with impunity and expect them to grow up with any political opinion besides a grudge towards a blatantly corrupted government.
>>541986668It matters because in the british legal system we inherited relies on decisions from previous cases to judge future cases. If the jury finds postpartum depression to be a reasonable insanity plea, it can be used for anyone in the future
>>541986186Because leftists came up with it to protect their pets and themselves.
>>541986606>>541986668no NGRI should mean that but it doesn't. what it means is it goes to a fucking committee that spends forever deciding if they should send a suggestion, and then another committee reviews the suggestion forever. in extreme cases they might send the person in question to a psych ward, and then every fucking day there's a chance the ward says "yup no longer a danger to society" and lets the asshole out.
>>541986186She is correct. Surely every murder ever has been a person in an abnormal mental state.
>>541987149>This trial is one of many that will errode law and order completely over the coming years.just wait til this one sets the precedent that it's legal for niggers to beat the shit out of you for saying niggerfuture is roving gangs of niggers running around jumping people and swearing they said nigger with the other niggers serving as witnesses you totally did
>>541986186>no investigation, just took husband at his wordThis is called "reasonable doubt." Any chance the prosecution might have had to meet this standard died when the nigger and irish police didn't do a proper investigation because it was too cold out and too much work. Not Guilty is the only correct verdict in the framework of the Constitution. The nigger holdout also should have been struck, considering his social media posts about how much he hates White people.
>>541987570technically those aren't racism so it's ok
>>541987230No, jury trials do not set precedent, that is done by appellate courts ruling on procedure, interpretation of the law, ect.
>>541986511Only one person had control in the deaths of those three children and that was the woman who murdered them. She waited until her husband was far away and then she choked her three children to death. If she was insane, she would not have waited, she would have acted.
>>541987800>pulse of 54 bpm while strangling your children lol No.
>>541987867She planned killing her child after asking her husband to leave its open and shut for any non disingenuous
>>541986186It's supposed to be used for the absolutely babbling insane. Like a guy that will just scream and shit himself in court and eat it kind of insane. They also usually get sentenced to criminal insane asylums it's not a you are free to go thing.
>>541987416I mean there was that case in Oregon where a black career criminal was let off by a jury after stabbing a guy in a botched robbery because the victim called him a nigger after he got stabbed
>>541986511It's not about punishment, its about threat removal.No one "in society" gives a fuck about rehabilitating these monsters. They want them gone.It is only the prison industrial complex that keeps our retarded justice system alive.
>>541986186There are two theories of how punishment for a crime works: rehabilitation and deterrence. Rehabilitation seeks to reform the criminal so they can be a functioning member of society again. In the case of insanity, the obvious answer to this problem is to treat the mental illness to blame for their actions. Locking them up in prison doesn't accomplish anything, though depending on the nature of their mental illness they might still end up in an asylum. Deterrence seeks to use the punished criminal as an example to other criminals, to warn them off doing similar actions. This is pointless in the case of insanity, because you cannot deter the mentally ill with such threats. The rational cause and effect nature of "do crime, be punished" has no impact on an irrational mind that operates in delusional reality. So regardless of which theory of punishment you feel is correct, it doesn't make sense to imprison the mentally ill like they were some other kind of criminal. Locking them up and throwing away the key won't get you anything.
>>541986511>So you just like to punish people for things outside their controlif their lack of control makes them break the law, yeswhat Anatole France says sarcastically I say unironically
reason of insanity should have a much higher bar.i.e for people who are completely fucking mental, like can't distinguish reality from hallucinations. total complete schizos. like the mad homeless people you see walking down the street shouting at demons.
>>541986186Note that a REQUIREMENT of insanity ruling is that they DON'T KNOW WTF THEY'RE DOING and don't understand it will kill someone. It cannot be applied to Lindsay Clancy because she knew she was killing her kids in the moment.
>>541986186One of our politicians in congress shot another guy in the dick and killed him for sleeping with his wife the president at the time got him of with an insanity plea
>>541986186lefties, that's why. they are pro-anarchy and they are protecting criminals and scum all over the west.>france trying to impose harsher punishments on rapists?>lefties unanimously block itinsanity should be an immediate death penalty. if you're unable to live peacefully among mankind, you must be purged.
>>541986186She is insane, but once you are deemed insane it's over. You are locked up in a padded room and psychiatrists will experiment on you, until you are killed, to death, and then finally die.
she's right 100%
>>541988489. thisU.S. Congressman Daniel Sickles, who in 1859 became the first person in United States history to successfully use the temporary insanity defense after shooting his wife's lover, Philip Barton Key II, in the groin
>>541986186>whybecause mental illness is real
>>541986186The talking horse raises an excellent point.
>>541986186you mooooslimes fuck goats, little boys and yer families too gross>explain yourself sand monkeys
>>541986186That's for retards who genuinely have limited understanding of what they are doing
>>541987128>Funny story actually... it used to be that if you claimed insanity you were relinquishing your rights to the state and would then become a ward of the state in a mental asylum.Additionally, by adopting an affirmative defense such as an insanity plea, you were also considered to be pleading guilty, and had to essentially make an affirmative case on the insanity for why your SENTENCING should not be the default sentence.Such a plea used to be a flat out forfeit.
>>541986668These ridiculous State kangaroo criminal trials are exclusively about the GUILTY MIND of the defendant AS THEY KNOWINGLY in-jured the text of the State Statute the prosecution has chosen as a charging instrument.Courtrooms (not art. 3 defined) are BANKS and thereby the living are made greater than dead who are treated as spilled milk because they can no longer contract. Women and brown people ALSO are not really all able to contract, and so are given 'oopsies' because everyone working the court tacitly knows that investigating the intent of a woman or wog is a void that turns up a monster, every time you look hard enough.It only works against white men to step by step calculate the guilty mind in a manner coherent to Logic.
>>541988487Nah, they can know but might have totally insane reasons >my babies were robots from the reptilians that were spying on trying to steal my soul secrets!See that’s insane but killing is still understood to be the choice. And done without understanding it was wrong, because what was understood was a false realityBut this case simply had >I really really hate my kids, ahhhhh, I hate them so much that killing them is my only option.She still recognized that they were her kids
>>541986186Crimes of passion fall under the insanity defense
>>541986606The terms equitable and not guilty belong to entirely different areas of law and refer to distinct concepts: one describes a type of legal remedy or fairness, while the other is a criminal verdict.
>>541988907Crimes of passion must prove zero premeditation and you STILL go to prison, they’ll just be a little more lenient on sentencing
>>541986511>So you just like to punish people for things outside their control? Uhm yeah. For their crime and because of the greater good. The next one will think twice. And if not, no problem, death sentence. If it's a planned "I just will act like a maniac and get a little clap" : death sentence too. Win win.
>>541988978how do i delet.. i always thought you could self selet, lolstupid retard day today, sorry..heres the actual sum up.While often used interchangeably, acquittal refers to the legal outcome or official court order clearing a defendant of charges, whereas not guilty is the specific verdict rendered by a judge or jury
>>541988353You're forgetting the third reason and that's removal, removing the people likely to harm innocents from society. If a person is not rational, cannot reason, then obviously neither rehab nor deterrence works, at that point they are similar to a wild animal like a cougar who's killing people. What do we do with wild animals who kill people? We remove them from society. Ultimately the lives of the innocent take priority of the guilty, therefore you need to do a cost benefit analysis when choosing among the three options. Is it worth trying to rehab someone, are they likely to commit the crime again? You're also forgetting something critical about deterrence, the point isn't to try to deter the genuinely insane who don't care about punishment, the point is to not set the precedent that people can argue their way out of justice via insanity.
>>541986511>You just want to eliminate problems!YES.
>>541989331Check box on post, go to bottom left, decide if it's the whole post or only the attachment.
>>541986186The criminal justice system in the west has been moving in a trajectory away from trials meant to determine guilt or innocence in order to levy the correct punishment and more in a trial asking why the crime was committed in order to correct the criminal.The state's efforts at crime prevention no longer seeks to corporally punish or humiliate the perpetrator but to correct him so he doesn't reoffend or at least to keep him away from the public so that he can't.This is why we have joint suspended rehabilitation, crime diversion programs, supervision, and mandatory instutionalization in a psyche ward instead of scaffolds, gallows, pillories, guillotines, racks, and other devices meant to humiliate and bring pain on criminals.The justice system of olde was only concerned with who was responsible. Today's concerns itself with why the guilty party did it.
>>541989331>>541989501Bottom right of the page, not left. I too retarded up directions.Here's a distracting AI generated cat webm.
>>541986186>willingly do bath salts and eat somebodies face>GUILTY>willingly do SSRIs and strangle 3 kids to death>your free to go mam
>>541986186Makes no sense to me either. I'd truly rather live next door to someone who murdered for money than a genuinely insane killer, yet our system is set up to make the latter situation more likely.
>>541986186Not mentally sane person can kill a kid. No child killer should be in jail. Same for rapists or pedo, they are mentally ill so they should be outside raping and killing children.
>>541989565he's gonna burn his hands like that
>>541986511>I may randomly snap and annihilate my family for no reason one day>Please just deal with it I think people are catching on that it’s untennable
>>541986511Actually it's the opposite allowing people to get away with murder due to some phony baloney mental state is building a slaughterhouse
>>541986606>Not guilty by reason of insanity means they spend the rest of their life in a psychiatric ward rather than a prison, and in 5 or so years a Dr on the take will declare them 'cured' and then they go freeFTFY
>>541986186Ok sure shes crazy, lock her up in the hospital indefinitely without chance of being discharged. Also make it a co-ed room and wish her luck.
>>541986511having control is a feature of humans
>>541987149The time to voice your opposition is now. Everyone needs to be calling the courts (tomorrow) and demanding that NGRI be discarded as an outcome possibility entirely.
>>541988643Decarlos Dejuan Brown Jr.
>>541986511If you can't behave like a human you don't get to be around humans. I hope this helps!
>>541986186Look into the history of 'Not guilty by reason of Insanity'. He was a northern Democrat in pre civil war times, politically connected. He fucked every hoe in town, even paraded around with the most famous madame in DC. He lived across the street from the WH and his homeboy lived down the street-important. He had a wife and she ended up fucking said homeboy on the regular. The signal, our guy found out was homeboy would walk back and forth in front of his house until wifey went over to HB's house and did the dirty. Once dude found out, he was upset although he had no reason to be since he fucked everything that moved. That's the background. Look up what he (Dan Sickles I think) did, and how 'not guilty by reason of insanity' came to be. It's even more fucked than Lindsay if you just take the act out and focused on the 'that's bullshit' side of things. Hang her.
>>541989507Tell me you’re a lawyer without telling me you’re a lawyer
>>541986186kikes (khazarians) needed a get out clause and since a lot of them are inbred...
>>541986186Insanity means one does not comprehend the consequences of one's crimes.
>>541986186I see no reason to keep the insane alive after they've committed murder. Only person that retarded is Batman.
>>541988816Exactly. I dont understand why republicans are so hellbent on destroying our civil standards.
