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Who you gonna call?
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>>541991880
Thanks Obama
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That's their choice, I respect them as a capitalist
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>>541991880
>large employers
care to name a few you faggots?
also FUCK twatter threads
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>>541992010
This. I blame Obama. "Obamacare" drastically increased healthcare costs by over 1600%. He should have never been president.
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>>541991880
Muttslaves wont do anything despite their weapons.
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>>541992025
None were named in the article
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>>541992095
Yep.
Destroyed all the smaller insurance companies and killed all the competition
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Mr. Trump.
It is TIME to NUKE the healthcare insurance industry from orbit.
Everyone hates it.
They don't understand that The Democrats are going to try to kill you for doing something about it. This is the biggest cost issue killing people, 'sick-care' is a deliberately bigger bungling than public schooling.
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Ghost busters
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corporations insure

the living indemnify
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>>541991880
Niggers
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>>541991880
I will not work for them and work for companies that are willing to invest in their employees. Companies that dont invest in their employees will find a slew of job applicants that are not cut from the same cloth. Good fuckin luck. zhoprfully I wont need a job at all. I am moving to another country where they give universal healthcare like Israel or Taiwan.
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>>541991880
This is the right time to end Obamacare.
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You dont need health insurance. Just dont take vaccines and eat healthy, work out, and spend a lot of time outside in the sun. We survived for thousands of years using the healing power of the sun and we didn't have "health insurance".
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>>541992231
hmm who should i listen to? the uppity proles or the hundred millions in free speech i get from the hospitals, insurance and pharma monopolies?
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Americans will be forced to undergo BBC Therapy, you will take your meds and be happy
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>>541991880
funny timing, the other day I heard one of the leverages Canadian companies have over American ones in the context of the trade war is they don't have to provide healthcare because it is already provided by the states
so that's what you get for fucking with Canada
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>>541992862
provided by the government*
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>>541992437
Yeah and if something happens that requires a hospital visit you may as well just kill yourself then and there because it's pretty much over for you
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>>541991880
I guess it's the free market not letting more people study medicine if doctor work is so expensive aka scarce
I guess its the free market charging you extra taxes if you hire health insurance on your own
I guess its the free market enforcing patents that allow pharma companies to charge thousands for a pill that can be made for pennies

Checkmate lolbertarians!
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guys does it even fucking matter? i have full coverage with copay reimbursement and when i look at the hoops i have to go through for a septoplasty i was like fuck off,
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>>541991880
The system just needs to be nationalized at this point. Everyone is sick and tired of this shit. If you are sick just go to a doctor and get treatment.

There shouldnt be profit margins over 15% in healthcare.
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>Large employers
Lmao
Not my problem.
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>as costs rise
As always this is the jews fault
It was the jews in the 20's when they sued dodge and a jew again in the 70's when he siad this..
>The social responsibility of a business is to increase profits
https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2020/09/17/the-friedman-essay-and-the-true-purpose-of-the-business-corporation/
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>>541991880
>who u gonna call
GHOSTBUSTERS!
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>>541991880
shit tier jobs have been doing this for literal decades
you're SUPPOSED to get healthcare for ANY full time job so what they do is limit your hours to like 32.5 a week, the absolute limit of "part time", so they don't have to offer you healthcare
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>>541993286
>There shouldnt be profit margins over 15% in healthcare.
Blame socialism. When half the population has to oay for the other halfs food and medical, shit goes up. When you let in 10 million illegals and they go to the hospital with a fake name and get treated, it costs a lot of money.
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>just get a well paid tech job it's high income and has good health coverage
>oops you can't get a job anymore, AI replaced juniors anyway you wouldn't get a healthcare plan either way
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>>541993639
>When half the population has to oay for the other halfs food and medical, shit goes up.
this is what happens when it's NOT single payer because the health industry would rather exploit everyone by gouging the shit out of them and using this as the excuse
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>you don't want a socialist system where the government forces companies to have price ceilings because that's COMMUNISM, goyim
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>>541993639
You have to pay for the uninsured anyway. You can't delay treatment because someone doesn't have insurance. Who is insured and how many is not relevant to cost. The system is fundamentally broken

I personally pay $1100 a month so my wife and kids are covered...and you know what? They try to jew out of everything anyway so it's pointless. That is absolutely insane we tolerate this. I have always been a free market person but I am done defending private healthcare. There is no benefit at all to it, it should be nationalized and if you want private insurance you can pay for it that option is yours
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>>541992095
>>541992208
Been waiting on the Republican repeal/ replace plan for 16 years now
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>>541994811
it's a damn pharma milktit so nobody is shutting it down, ever
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>>541993255
Right. Its despicable. You have a bunch of people who have never been sick cheerleading this stupid system but when the time comes in a decade for chemotherapy or emergency surgery your insurance will literally make something up to deny it and make you pay yourselfand litigate just so their stock goes up like Unitedhealthcare slightly more.

Only retards and those who don't know defend private healthcare
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>>541991880
That ironically will save many people and make them much more healthier.
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As users of the currency, corporations are not particularly well-equipped to shoulder the costs of an inelastic good, such as healthcare.

As the issuer of the currency, the federal government is uniquely equipped to do this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mODnz8DnhCQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGhF1jO4ZbM
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>>541992010
>>541992095
Literally this. Costs went ridiculously higher and people did in fact lose their doctors even though they claimed that would not happen. All to subsidize poor people. Fuck him.
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>Americans go bankrupt and have to live in the sewers as fentanyl fiends if they get sick
Literally worse than Zimbabwe
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>>541991880
Elites know the job market is tight and employees are desperate for work. Without collective bargaining rights and they know the Americans are pussies. Employers can just Healthcare from full time employees with zero consequences and massive increase in revenue. Get used to at most health savings plans and don't get sick.
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No one hates Americans more than americans.
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>>541991880
Part of this had to do with the fucking vaxx, that's probably one reason costs went up and now they just straight up wont insure people, leaving them to die. I'm sure that was the plan all along.
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>>541991880
costs are only going up because neurotic women go to the doctor for every little thing under the sun
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Medicare for all or none

Fuck all of you
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>>541991880
Tell them you did not get the clot shot
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>>541996491
You're a stupid nigger and that will translate to healthcare for none (and economic collapse of the US) because it cannot be paid for. It's not economically possible. Not everything in life is possible.
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>>541991880
it was designed to fail by democrat socialists.
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>>541994811
wasn't john "songbird" mccain the republican holdout that saved oniggercare?
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>>541996491
>for all for none

For none it is!
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>>541991880
GHOST BUSTERS!
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>>541992208

And it was based on Romney's system in Massachusetts
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>>541992437
>You don't need health insurance

Spoken like a true idiot who is gonna find out
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>>541992608
its funny that you covered up the jewish kippah with an uncle sam hat!
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>>541992010
You are a fucking retard
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>>541991880
They will bring in (more) jeet doctors and nurses in an attempt to drive costs down.
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>>541994811
They won't because its original design was by republicans in the 90's
This was always the intention.
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>>541996630
When you say "paid for" and "not economically possible", I think you need to be very specific about what you are talking about.

Do you mean there isn't enough money? Or their aren't enough real resources?
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>>541993027
Oh no not a bill for thousands that you can argue down to even smaller and get a payment plan for. Anything but that.
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>>541997072
Real resources obviously
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>>541996630
That's complete bullshit. Nationalize it. Get the bankers and profit out. Americans already pay $1800 a month on average so like it wouldn't matter if there was a tax for it people would 100% pay it

>But muh heckin waiting in line

They are just as bad in private insurance and guess what, you can literally go get private insurance if you want it
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>>541991880
No the united states is not a crumbling empire.
KEK
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>>541997158
I don't think it was obvious. And I suspect you're only saying that now because you realize you're talking to someone that understands the first can't be true.
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>>541997072
>Do you mean there isn't enough money? Or their aren't enough real resources?
>expecting people to understand what they're actually saying when talking about economics
nigger, they still haven't realized that capitalism is just free markets and trade, i.e the default and what you naturally get when people exchange shit, and that all this garbage regulation the government piles onto is is the opposite of capitalist.
we don't even have capitalism, we threw that out the window with the new deal and bretton woods.
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Why should corporations be responsible for employee healthcare? That system never made any sense. And clearly, it's not working anymore. It's time to replace that model with something else.
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>>541997026
You're brown.
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>>541997359
Please don't respond to me.
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>>541993393
It's more insidious than that. There are 2 major reasons why this will happen:
>manifestation of more vaccine injuries, remember, a majority of the population took them
>Jews are cutting benefits to others to push them into joining the military to die for Israel. They are openly admitting this on their news sites
Oh, and they just want Goyim dead. The more dead Goyim, the better.
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>>541992012
at least you can kill children

I hope they make like big brother style reality show of this
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>>541996982
You will train your poopjeet replacement and you won't do shit against it.
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>>541991880
only third worldists liberals get sick
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>>541997190
No because you need doctors who are scarce and require extensive training and the people who train the doctors are extensively trained and all their time in this process creates a problem where necessarily they need to be compensated heavily in order to incentivize their existence. So how do you do that if the population base cannot support that? You can't print money, the money has to be worth something.

>>541997260
Nobody is arguing some disingenuous funny money perspective. Price is only a rationing mechanism for scarcity.
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>>541993639
It's more than 10 million btw
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>>541991880
This is literally what liberals want
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>>541997537
Yeah fucking for real. The other thing is the importation of minorities. OP is about private insurance which faces a conflict of interest - shareholder returns vs. paying out coverage and no doubt I think they are being pressured by (((institutional investors))) (Kikerock) as well as the US government (put into a precarious economic condition by jews) to keep the stock market afloat.

This is probably EXACTLY what is going on.
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Frontier AI models are already better than general practitioners and can be easily trained for specialist doctoral tasks too. This lets us get rid of them and the MASSIVE overhead administrative costs in healthcare. Community college can pump out nurses for physical doctor visits.
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>>541991880
You lost tranny
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>>541991880
I dont even have a GP or anything, haven't been to the doctor since last time with a nasty flu/cough and the woman "doctor" told me I have to go get my DRUGS somewhere else because codiene cough syrup was banned. dentist put on a crown and insurance rejected it because it wasn't 1/500 microns of the threshold to get one or some shit, another $500 diwn the hole, i would of had a pool of 100s of thousands if I put the insurance money into a stupid investment fund and used the money to pay cash for procedures. whole system is a joke in clown world.
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>>541991880
Still free medical for all the leeches, keep working hard wagies, Tyrone, Abdul and Pedro need you to keep funding their healthcare while you get none, and poor whites dont even think about it, no free healthcare for you.
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>>541999220
Doctors are only for the elite now, welcome to the new normal.
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>>541992010
Kek
Go be a nigger somewhere else
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>>541992010
>cap healthcare margins at 15%.
Insurance companies just raise rates each year so green line keeps going up.
>limit insurance plans to state and ban cross state pooling of risk groups.
your costs go up
>allow insurance companes to be publically owned and have "shareholders"
The insurance companies serve the shareholders, not the patients
>allow insurance companies to foist old people (their profit risk) on to the government medicare rolls.
They privatized the profits and socialized the losses. Collect premiums from the healthy people, kick them to the taxpayers when they cost money.
>This is what Obummercare did for you
Actually... it was written by the health insurance lobbyists and hammered thru by Obummer and Congress cause they got paid.
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>>541999504
Nonsense, its mostly for niggers and browns on medicaid and boomers on Medicare
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>>541991880
i only pay to keep seeing my PCP so she doesn't drop me and I have to wait four months to get in again.

i'm not paying hospital/labs/imaging bills, just switch around every year.
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>>541999715
>She
Good luck Anon
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>>541991880
It will be cheaper again for healthy individuals to get private health insurance than have to put up with the gay pooling money grab right now. Sucks for all you obese niggers. Enjoy your third rate tier insurance only accepted and the community clinic
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>>541998560
>You can't print money

Funny enough they do it for everything else. We literally don't need 400 combat ships , 27,000 armored vehicles and. 16,000 warplanes

Americans are paying an average of $1800 a month for their health insurance plans. There is no way a national healthcare would need to tax every $1800 a month so it would be a huge positive for the economy
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>>541991880
good i dont want to be a hostage to my employer
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>>541999715
also i started a HSA account a few years ago its only worth 10k. once its worth 100k i'm dropping insurance completely and only using the HSA account for massages, whatever medical equipment i need, and meds and to keep seeing the primary. everything else will be courtesy of the taxpayer lol

>>541999810
she's fine. i say specifically what med i want and she writes the script.
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>>541991880
Good. Americans are stronger and healthier than Europeans, we don't need healthcare as much as they do. Their focus on healthcare only allows dysgenic traits to continue polluting their gene pool. America is better than that.
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>>541991880
why do americans need so much healthcare? healthcare this healthcare that. just be healthy
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>>541999934
Impossible. 60% obesity and diabetes rate. Add hysterical women who need to see the doctor every time they shit themselves and the turd worlders that use the emergency room as their primary physician and you have the perfect cash cow
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>>541991880
My state government pays for my healthcare because I work for it. Thanks for the tax revenue, bros.
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>>541991880
Been on government provided insurance since 2008 after the market imploded and I lost the last job I've ever held. Now my wife's on disability for rheumatoid arthritis and we get fiid stamps, government covers all our medical bills. I just do lawn care for my uncle, my cousin and my grandparents, they each pay me $100 a week for it and I save that money back for winter when bills spike. We own our mobile home and the 3 acres it sits on, my old 2010 Toyota Tacoma with no debt, so the only monthly bills are electric, truck insurance, phone & data. Living on government benefits gets tight if you don't manage your money, but we've learned to live on what we get, budget without running short on cash.
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>>541999923
Believe it or not doctors are not actually intended to be your drug dealer.
You should consider finding a new doctor that gives a fuck about you
If there is one
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>>541991880
MIGA!
Thats why the DSA will eventually win.
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>>541992566
The uppity proles all have at least 1 gun, have access to public addresses, and currently have a tilt towards civil disobedience.
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Receipt
>Adhesive bandage: $100
>Patient discharge: $600
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>>541999845
The underlying problem is America spends too much though, that's why we're in debt and why we also print money, but we don't print money that bad overall. Argentina is a worse case who funded everything through inflation and has an insane inflation rate.

> There is no way a national healthcare would need to tax
You are unbelievably stupid if you think we can just fund the healthcare of every third worlder who came here in the last 30 years



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