>>542006654Lend lease money from kikes and millions if yokels to run against the machine guns
>>542006654Because the mostly free and liberal and capitalist West got so bored with winning they forgot what planned and communist losing/starving to death was even like and started fetishizing it?
>>542006654Germany had terrible logistics, not enough men and not enough resources. Soviets had far more men and resources. The only way to have actually won the war was to ensure the soviet union collapses in a matter of weeks. Anything else meant defeat .
Because the Germans committed a couple big blunders that they couldn't afford to make. Barbarossa was doable even if it was a longshot, but they really needed everything to go perfectly to pull it off, which it didn't
>>542006654Coordination with western allied armies for their offensives (Torch/Uranus, Avalanche/Dnieper zergrush, Overlord/Bagration), and vast amounts of aid from the western allies as well
germutt childraping troons got raped by bolshevik chads
Don't get it twisted, you low-IQ moron. The Soviets didn't win; they simply didn't lose. If that bunch of retards had been the aggressors, they would have suffered a crushing defeat at the hands of Germany.
>>542006757LmaoAsk me how I know you are new
>>542006654Because of us.
>>542006654Plunder eastern europe. Replace your less desireable populations that were close to revolting with new slaves that now have no other choice. Change borders of subject states so they have conflict with eachother rather than you. Have near uncontested sphere of influence. Be recognized as one of the top economies because of the destruction of the existing powerhouses.
>>542008609>Plunder western europe. Replace your less desireable populations that were close to revolting with new slaves that now have no other choice. Change borders of subject states so they have conflict with eachother rather than you. Have near uncontested sphere of influence. Be recognized as one of the top economies because of the destruction of the existing powerhousesHuh works too
>>542006946>germany had not enough mentop kek, literally 8 million nazi soldiers surrendered
>>542006654mostly superior weapons, germans can’t defend fortifications against rockets
>>542006654By being superior.
>>542008396western allies didn’t do shit and were watching who is winning to join the war at the last minute on the winning side. Americans provided alot of shit, but for double/tripple price, as usual.
>>542008413k/d not bussin fr fr
>>542008396yes that 3 german divisions in Africa surerly would stop the attack of 200 soviet divisions at Stalingrad
>>542009371and now add POWs to the statistics
>>542009543it says military deaths you illiterate pinko nigger memfag
>>542009654How would you call the 3 milion murdered or starved Soviet prisoners of war
>>542006946Germany had large advantage literally in everything, that was basically the main reason they attacked
>>542006654Because the Germans had no consistent policy toward the USSR and restricted anti-communist and nationalist forces. Even Stepan Bandera got arrested at one point. If Germany had gone with their exact same policy as World War I in creating a network of pro-German states in Eastern Europe (beside maybe Poland, even if the 1918 Polish border plan was perfectly achievable) and smashing communism in the USSR, they would have won. There would have been far fewer partisans and they would have Banderist and other nationalist legions as endless cannon fodder to kill whatever cannon fodder the Soviets threw at them, until the Soviet cannon fodder realized that whatever republic or monarchy followed the USSR was going to be better than dying for communism.>>542008810German weapons were superior, but Germany couldn't manufacture nearly as many of them as the USSR could
>>542010043> German weapons were superior, but Germany couldn't manufacture nearly as many of them as the USSR couldat the beginning of the war soviet soldiers had like 3 bullets per week, while the whole europe was producing weapons for germans non stop
>>542010043>Germany couldn't manufacture nearly as many of them because our factories and cities were bombed by the americans and britishwithout that we easily win the warthe russians only won due to having everything handed to them on a silver plateevery german city they came to was already rubble
>>542009730a beginning
>>542010043also no machine guns nothing in USSR, but at the end everything was superior, firearms, tanks, planes, rockets. Germany was fucked really big deal, but they voted for that.
>>54201024130 million dead soviets later
>>542010160m8, you take literally any european company, like fucking pegeout or something, and it will turn out they were producing weapons for germany the whole war non stop. Just name any big french or dutch or swedish or whatever manufacturer that was not making weapons for germany
As you can see, there wasn't some crazy troop advantage during battles.
>>542010277killing so much women and children and still losing is the worse
>>542010374like Im going to waste my time with a subhuman like you
>>542010443they were mostly men as you can see by the high female to male ratio after the warthe soviets just lied about everything
>>542006654lend lease
>>542010374That was actually counting for less than people think, lots of nazi conquered regions/countries were depend on trading with USA or their own colonies so all the industry that nazi stole worked at 40% capability at most, most of the captured factories were plundered into Germany instead of being allowed to operate normaly+germans thought that this willl be a short war so they behaved like a locust, a locust can eat everything and cause a lot of death but once it comes back and there is nothing there, the locust dies
>>542010666American war for independence was won only because of Dutch financing.
>>542010940that is probably in Poland, but if you at french ones those were literally their best years, also swedish and such
Hitler beat the entire of Europe by himself, and almost conquered Russia. You don't hear people saying Napoleon lost the war. You don't hear anyone bragging about beating Napoleon. Napoleon is never the bad guy in children's stories. Hitler lost, but only at the end of a winning streak.Nobody has any concept of just how many Russians Hitler killed and who died subsequently from famine, it wasn't just that Hitler almost took stalingrad, won in military terms, the USSR almost suffered a total social, political, economic and agricultural collapse. Total death.
>>542011157Napoleon did not kill civilians on industrial level
>>542006654Willingness to sacrifice their men, American produced logistics equipment, and the belief that their invaders are there to kill them all (which wasn't entirely wrong).
>>542009654Moron POWs are included in the Soviet stat but not the axis onedon't post shit without knowing what you are posting next time
>>542010160>everythingKek Germany was producing more armaments in the final year of the war than any year before that, bombing is a neme
>>542011133noo, French total economic output of 1941 was less than 40% of 1940 pre invasion, it was a catastrophe. They pillaged most of their fabrics and stole their machines, Poland didn't have a lot of industry to begin with, even countries like Romania who weren't occupied for most of the war and were allies were basically exploited like colonies (they treated Romania worse than British treated India) so they couldn't develop properly either I guess it's true with Sweden, their iron + stolen Czech industry really carried nazi early into the war
>>542011376provide source proving such you filthy fucking bogan
>>542010624>we killed mostly male civiliansLmaoweak
>>542011277You are a stinky commie who has read no books. Do not reply to me or my post ever again
>>542011349the problem was not the sacrifice, but the big problem for Wehrmacht were partisans, they destroyed the logistics and were just as important and efficient as regular army. That is why germans were murdering the whole villages trying to stop it. Still didn’t work. On the contrary there was not a single partisan in Germany during occupation, millions of nazis just surrendered without any resistance.
>>542011157>almost took stalingradLmaoBro read a bookThey were baited in stalingrad and the soviet's trickled just enough people into stalingrad so the Germans kept thinking they were close to winning, in reality they built up a force of 300k on both wings steadily before crushing them utterly in OP UranusGermany never came close to winning
>>542006654The Rothschilds dumped everything they had into convincing the whole world to attack Germany at once.
>>542006654>why did the larger army beat the smaller army.
>invade Russia>with horses
>>542011803soviet army was definitely not the larger one, German army had 2 millions more soldiers
The Germans inflicted a 4:1 casualty rate against entrenched Russian forces in battle, the Russians were getting slaughtered in their own positions. The Russians were never successful in military operations and their victories were historically phyric. Sometimes you couldn't even say what society force had won because so much was lost and so little was left. And behind that, just mass dead. Famine, plague. While German civilians were rationing, dealing with air raids but much like England it was still sensible in Germany during the war, in Russia it was madness. You read in the paper that the whole village next to your village no longer exists. Hundreds of thousands of men bring deployed at a time. Mass starvation. Places you just can't go because there's nobody to bury the bodies and every house is full of corpses.If Dachau was a mass murder site, whole regions of the USSR were fields of corpses
>>542011376>>542011425>>542011762whats up with these malding soviet subhumans flooding this thread>bombing is a memehave you ever looked at the german cities at the end of the war, you retardas I said every german city the russians came to was already rubbleGermany had to figth a multiple front warand then they got their asses stuffed full of lendleasethe soviets were the most pampered nation in the entire war
>>542012042damn, those nazis had to be really weak to lose to a starving country full of corpses
>>542011762That's a novel view.The issue for the Russians was their huhue peasant army took huge casualties wherever they were sent even if they weren't fighting and couldn't be supplied. Stalingrad was somewhere that if they won, the Russians could supply instead of suffering a decisive tang victory and having to eat everyone in what was left of the city. The significance of lend lease, a major part of it was rail infrastructure so the soviets could continue to push back west. And after that trucks. It wasn't that the soviets were trickling men in as some kind of trap, they had millions of peasant soldiers with no trucks, trains, food or fuel to mobalize them.
>>542011460Moron 8.6somthing is the irrecoverable losses of the military, KIA, MIA, who died of wounds, died in captivity2 1/2M of that is POWsAxis lost 5M KIA, MIA, who died of wounds, difference is of the 3M POWs only 300k didn't survive source is literally the official state figures for both nations
>>542006654Hitler admitted as much with one of his last verified quotes:"The future belongs entirely to the stronger people in the East".
>>542012042>The Germans inflicted a 4:1 casualty rate against entrenched Russian forces in battleweird that KIA, MIA and died of wounds is 6M vs 5M then...Math not a strong subject for you?
>>542012308link or shut the fuck up also vegemite is trash, marmite is better
>>542012149>germany lostno shit, man
>>542006654The German military in WW2 is overrated. They got lucky with the Blitzkrieg meme over and over but that's doomed to failure as soon as you run into A. an enemy on an island because you can't do blitzkrieg over water (UK)B. an enemy who's country is big enough and has enough strategic depth that they can turn it into attrition war (USSR)
>>542012209Shut the fuck up Poland you lost ww2 three times in a row
>>542012149>have you ever looked at the german cities at the end of the war, you retardas I said every german city the russians came to was already rubbleYeah, have you? none were bombed heavily with the exception of berlin>Germany had to figth a multiple front warLmao you retards literally made that happen by open multiple fronts at the same time>muh lend-leaseKek
>>542012401I don't know where you're getting those figures from, but that's not right. Have you even seen the monuments in the USSR to their soldiers? Kazakhstan suffered shocking losses. And because throwing a rifle to a peasant doesn't exactly make them a soldier it's debatable if they are, or are not a military casualty. If they died in a military action sure, but because most of Russia's losses were from starvation and frostbite, disease, whether the frozen peasant was or was not a military casualty is somewhat debatable.
>>542006654It's perfectly straightforward.Hitler allied Russia through the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and some appeasement politics to keep Stalin happy.British and French diplomats and spies were sent to Russia to make Stalin paranoid.Stalin loves being paranoid, it's his favourite hobby.Hitler and his staff knew this, thus they pre-emptively struck Russia when Sea Lion had failed.Why did Sea Lion fail? Because in spite of all the bombing successes, it was decided that air superiority had to be absolute or too many Germans would die in the crossing and in the land grab on the British Isles.Germany essentially put all its eggs in one basket: destroy Stalin.They bloody well damned near did, but being 1 enemy for millions of Russians to focus on meant Stalin maintained a stable regime and whatever instability there was before no longer troubled anymore.Everyone's focused.As for Britain, they spent the next 4 years bombing German infrastructure (thereby causing the typhus epidemic in the concentration camps) and giving the Soviet Union guns, planes, tanks and ammo.So did the US.Hitler couldn't win in time, the tide turned, and defeat became inevitable.In fact D-Day was redundant. If winning the war was the only objective, they wouldn't have done it.Wanna know why they did?Because Stalin was worse than Hitler and the allies only forgot that for long enough to lose Poland, East Germany, most of Central Europe and the Balkan to him.That silly masonic oversight would cause economic damages which the former Eastern Bloc is still recovering from 80 years later.
>>542012305That's not novel, that's the objective facts accepted by anyone that learns about ww2> The issue for the Russians was their huhue peasant army took huge casualties wherever they were sent even if they weren't fighting and couldn't be supplied.Wtf are you talking about? they were supplied extremely well and suffered the same amount of casualties as the axis>lendleasego learn when lend lease arrived and in what numbers, not even 10% arrived once OP Uranus was underway, and that was the end of the German military>they had millions of peasant soldiers with no trucks, trains, food or fuel to mobalize them.stop watching movies kid
>>542006654nazis are weak faggots
>>542012724>I don't know where you're getting those figures fromLmaothat's painfully obvious, maybe do a tiny bit of research thenalso learn the difference between civilian and military, terms like KIA, MIA, died of wounds, and died in captivity and then compare the same figure for each side>And because throwing a rifle to a peasant doesn't exactly make them a soldier it's debatable if they are, or are not a military casualtyRetards like you destroyed this site, you so obviously don't have a clue about anything and just give your opinion as if it is valid
>>542012761>economic damages which the former Eastern Bloc is still recovering from 80 years laterwhat the fuck are you talking about, "eastern bloc" in interwar was literally africa tier
If you looked at this graph and didn't know, you might think it was a horrible war between China and Russia. The idea that Japan and Germany, all the way down in the table, inflicted every other death on the entire chart is in itself, the story of ww2 Industrialised millitaries adopt total war against undeveloped, feudal countries, kill everyone. Second thing you note is that China and Russia seemed to lose more civilians then soldiers. They did. Civilian casualties in Russia and China accounted for more deaths then the rest of the world, and their own armies combined. Everyone died. Fields of corpses, plague, cannibalism.Third thing to note is that not many polish died but they lost almost a quarter of their entire population. How? They managed to lose the same war three times in a row, if Japan and Germany killed everyone it was only because of the unfathomable stupidity of Poland
>>542006654unlimited backing from the world's largest empires @ the time, yours & ours. also it was a ridiculously massive nation. twice as large as the whole of europe, size of a continent in itself really. that said, i still think they would have lost if not for the 1st reason i mentioned. the axis would have pulled off the greatest military conquest in all of human history surpassing even alexander the great.
>>542006654Superior genetics is the only possible answer.
>>542009921>resourcesWagner told Hitler they couldn’t logistically supply the army well past 440 miles of the Reich. The SU had built huge steel smelters and had plans for creating eight huge armies. War was inevitable at some point given the SU resources. The Allies supplied trucks and radios were crucial also, if they hadn’t of had them they wouldn’t have been able to move said resources across the SU’s dirt roads. Ultimately they just outproduced Germany and had oil. If Hitler had percussed Turkey to enter and take the lower Caucus then the Reich would have had a chance as that was where 80% of the SU’s oil was sourced from and they wouldn’t have been able to move troops around effectively. Poor Reich command didn’t help. Why so many battalions in Norway and Africa when the South Front was screaming for more men? With thousand of miles of front to guard. Halder had already set up to attack Moscow and supply Group Centre with all the reinforcements when it was the South and the oil the Reich needed. Latgest coalition in history but they wouldn’t have still lost either way, the SU was already set-up for mass military manufacture with said smelters. Germany was also far too decentralised in design procurement also.
>>5420133247% of one year's USSR GDP was the unlimited backing?
>>542006654Mutts gave them a bunch of free shit otherwise they would have ran out of materiel in the first 2 years
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>>542013840don't you know anything? Americans defeated the Germans at Stalingrad, and the 100 light tanks from lend lease made up the majority of the soviet's 3500 armour pieces at kursk and defeated the Germans, also they captured Berlin and killed hitler
>>542013840Trading beets back and forth contribute to GDP. And how does peace time GDP compare with GDP when the most developed Western end of the state is occupied?The USSR was sent steel, food, ammunition, tanks, locomotives and rail cars. Entire fucking factories were sent over.Yeah the Soviets made a lot of T-34s, but out of what? American steel.Yes, it's embarrassing to rely on your capitalist neighbours to defeat your fascist ones, but that's what happened, smug tea sipping memes aside.
>>542014040British lend lease tanks fought near Moscow in 1941. Fuck off.
>>542014036Stfu nigger your dad and uncle are feeding maggots in ukraine right now
>>542013936> free
>>542013840>>542014036supreme cope. pic rel is only what our nation gave you. britain had a similar program in place on top of that.30% of german military was scattered across europe to fend off invasion from western allies, whereas yours was dragging every poor soul they could to throw in meatwaves against them.stalin himself stated the war would have been lost without "our dear western partners"ukraine has made the fact your military sucks donkey balls pretty evident as well.
>>542014212Lmao britian now won the battle of moscow too
>>542006654America and the UK stabbed Germany in the back.
>>542014442>nooooo you can't acknowledge that the allies and soviets helped each otherOkay, fag. I'm doing it anyway. You'll get over it.
>>542014439ever wonder why it's never shown as a % of production?because it would be a total of 1% rounding up, and 90% of it arrived after the Germans were reeling from the counter offensivelendlease helped the soviet's secure east Europe quickly, the Germans were defeated before it had any significant affect
>>542014530Bro Australia help the allies in ww2 too, but no way in hell am I going to claim the war was won because of that help
>>542006654Ironically, an Axis Poland would likely secure victory for Hitler. Poland was the fifth most populous country in Europe at the time, and historians maintain that a mobilized and properly prepared Polish army could have fielded around 50-60 divisions and 1,000-1,500 tanks. Considering that by December 1941 during the Moscow offensive, the Germans were short by only five divisions and roughly 100-200 tanks, such a contribution could very well have tipped the balance in the Axis's favor. Oh well
>>542014683Lmao get a gripgermany never stood a chance against just the British
>>542014625>if australia didn't exist or fought for the empire of japan then history would have been exactly the sameDelusional. Australian and America never had a good portion of their most industrialized and most productive agricultural areas occupied by the enemy. If Australia was vaporized by a comet then maybe this Island takes longer to be hopped to or whatever, sure. If The US and Britain don't help the USSR with weapons and food and steel it's going to have a pretty big impact on the war. It's embarrassing for nationalistic Russians to admit, especially under the current political climate, but it's true. And fuck their feelings I'm not going to pretend it's not.
>>542013840Notice how ziggers never acknowledge WHAT was given.Russia didn't have the technology and industry that the UK and US had. (Look at their absolute jokes of airplanes.)Stalin and Khrushchev admitted that they would have lost without Lend-Lease.It makes sense, Russia lost against Germany in WWI.
>>542014439>ukraine has made the fact your military sucks donkey balls pretty evident as well.Ahem, wrong. RuzZia has not even mobilized yet, soon nato will see their TRUE might.. a thousand divisions of elite VEH DEH VEH stormtroopers parachuting from the sky, from Berlin to London...T-90 tanks will roll through the streets of Paris, by then it will be too late, you could have prevented this but you westerners just kept poking the sleeping bear
>>542014839Delusional retardLook at picrel, the soviet's did that before >90% of this help arrived
>>542014879>Stalin... admitted that they would have lost without Lend-LeaseNostop lying mutt and read a book
>>542014683In retrospect Poland might have joined the Axis, but the whole thing kicked off because Poles were being dicks to Germans in their newly-given land and Danzig was cut off.Germany wanted more space, but I don't think Poles would be fine with moving east.
>>542015082It's literally in the image I posted you drunk abbo.
>>542006654They were defending their motherland against invaders. Just like Ukraine is doing today.
>>542015050A few hundred tank in front of Moscow when the Soviets have no reserves is worth more than a million tons of SPAM in 1945. Tonnage is no the entire picture. What is it? Where is it? What is happening at that time? Stop pushing this overly simplistic retarded take crafted for Russian nationalists. The Allies sent tons and tons and tons of critical supplies to the Soviets at times when they desperately needed them and bombed the ever living shit out of the German industrial base every day and all of the night on top of opening other fronts in Italy and France. It was a team effort through and through.
>>542015180>it's true cos my meme says itLmaohow many extra chromosomes do you have?
>>542015373The book cover is in the image.Why the fuck do you even care? You're an irrelevant Chinese/Jeet colony. Fuck off.
>>542015268retard the front stretched hundreds of kilometers and involved millions of men, trying to attribute its success to a handful of foreign tanks is beyond retarded, you have no clue
>>542015595maybe you should read it moronas it's clear not a quote by stalin
>>542015112Danzig was a semi-autonomous city state under the protection of the League of Nations. It was not newly given Polish land, it had its own government, and by 1933 it was already dominated by the local Nazi Party. Germany wasn't denied access to it either.>Germany wanted LebensraumRight, and that's why things worked out the way they did.
>>542015770You calling Khrushchev a liar?
>>542015870Kek why are you no longer defending the stalin quote?did you look it up and find the truth?
>>542015737>a small number of men or tanks in the right place at the right time means nothingYeah, fuck all those Medal of Honor holders and Heroes of the Soviet Union. All that matter s is tonnage. 10 million tons of SPAM dumped in Vladivostok in 1945 is worth the same as 100 tanks during the battle for Moscow. What was I thinking. We need to look at this through whatever lens makes the Russian nationalists feel better. Silly me.
>>542016009Who was Kruschev quoting? Was it Stalin? Hmm.
>>542016048are the Russian nationalist in the room with you now?
>>542011376>>542009543Axis POWs don’t matter because they “surrendered” due to their government standing down.Sovietroons surrendered on the battlefield lmao.Germany held off the entire planet for half a decade.The USSR couldn’t even stop itself from collapsing in 50 years.The USSR couldn’t even reach a 1930s Western standard of living.Lefties are spiteful mutantsSlavs are a slave race according to Karl Marx (he was right, read his essay “The Eastern Question”).Germany won the story.
>>542015818>It was not newly given Polish landI know, I was referring to the new land given to Poland that separates Germany from Danzig.Giving Poland Silesia and Pomerania was pure theft and absolutely retarded.
>>542016150If you were would you admit it? No. Whoops. Maybe a bit too on the nose, my Commonwealth brother.
>>542016131so it not a stalin quote, it's a kruschev quote?thanks for clearing that up retard
>>542011685>without any resistanceIf you don’t count the literal half decade of resistance lmfao.The Soviets commanded their people to be partisans.The Germans commanded their people to stand down.It’s easy to resist when you have four global empires backing you.It’s hard to resist when you’re totally occupied and your own people are disorganized.Germany fought like devils and made it to Valhalla and the USSR died like a bitch rolling in piss like their retarded midget king.The USSR is loved by tranny freaks.Nazi Germans is popular with attractive White people.
>>542016246Khrushchev can quote Stalin as easily as you or I can quote him.
>>542015737Nope. The defense of Moscow mattered the most because it was the central rail hub.If Moscow fell the entire frontline collapses and the Soviets can’t even transport men or materiel to the front.Moscow stood because the British had sent heavily armored tanks which the German guns couldn’t penetrate. Otherwise Moscow would have been encircled in a final push and destroyed as it would frozen the entire Soviet logistical chain to encircle Moscow.
>>542016166>7WbQlvCN3 of the 5 million where captured on the eastern front retard>my jew said slavs are a slave race Kek
>>542016205I value the truth not retarded war propaganda
>>542016488You are a fool or a liar. Either way we're at an impasse. Good talk, Anon.
>>542015050By 1942 the Soviets already relied on foreign imports for 90% of their high caliber explosives.How do the Soviets win even a single offensive if you cut their ammunition, small arms excepted, down by 90%???Are you aware the Soviets inflicted a majority of the casualties in the Germans using artillery?Without lend lease you take away about 45% of the USSR’s stopping power from 1941 onward.How the fuck do they win the war if Germany basically gets a 45% boost to manpower?They’d outnumber the USSR lol.Soviets were hard carried because Slavs and lefties can’t fight.
>>542016393>eastern front meaning eastern BerlinGo fetch your handler, Njangaaterra.
>>542016388Lmao you have no idea of the scale of the fighting if you think a few tanks made a difference why are you even arguing this? you clearly don't know anything about the battlelet's say I ask you to tell me the model of tank the British supplied and in what numbers, and them how many where operational and not paper deliveries, and where they where deployed, be honest you not only would not know any of that would you?
>>542016567show a single lie, sorry the facts upset you and your Hollywood understanding of ww2
>>542016728I know of the scale you moron but you’re ignoring that million man fronts aren’t Napoleonic battles where a million fucking men line up and face off. These frontlines are determined by spearheads of a few thousand men and a few hundred tanks, sometimes less than that.You say “a few hundred tanks” as if that isn’t huge for tanks. Consider that tank divisions only had 200-300 operational tanks and entire divisions were broken off into brigades and entire operations rested on single brigades of 20-30 tanks making a breakthrough.Have you read a single book on combat operations during Barbarossa?
>>542016728>you would not knowActually I do because the numbers are easily available on Wikipedia. It cites numbers of AFVs with tanks as a subset for the Western districts and for lend lease from the British.
>>542017134So fill us in then>lthe model of tank the British supplied and in what numbers, and them how many where operational and not paper deliveries, and where they where deployedShould be easy if as you say it's on wikipedia
>>542009921>>542008908>Tankie troon revisionismGb2 cum/chug/ lol
>>542016176Germany had guaranteed, uninterrupted transit rights (rail and road) across the corridor.>Giving Poland Silesia and Pomerania was pure theftYou do realize that Poland ceded more territory in the East than it acquired in the West after World War II, right?
>>542017399>You do realize that Poland ceded more territory in the East than it acquired in the West after World War II, right?Stalin stole Polish land. That doesn't justify Poland stealing German land. Even Churchill was opposed to this.Your timeline doesn't mean much when Danzig was ethnically German and built by Germans. Cutting a country in half is obviously a non-starter. Poland could have simply enjoyed uninterrupted transit rights to the sea instead.
>>542017858>That doesn't justify Poland stealing German landWhat are you even talking about? We had about as much influence as the Germans did over Stalin’s redrawing of Poland’s borders during the Potsdam Conference in 1945. Poland had no genuinely independent say in which specific regions it acquired, the Polish government was a Communist puppet state. The entire process was ultimately shaped by Soviet geopolitical engineering.>Your timeline doesn't mean much when Danzig was ethnically German and built by Germans. No, it was initially built by Poles and belonged to Poland for most of its existence. In fact, some of the most sought after architects in Gdańsk among the Polish aristocracy and nobility were Dutch and Flemish migrants.Pic rel for example, the Gdańsk Great Armoury was designed and built by Anthony van Obbergen, Jan Strakowski, and Abraham van den Blocke, two Dutch architects and one Polish architect.
>>542009525>>542008908And Here come the lying jews.An entire Luftflotte was rushed away from the Stalingrad sector towards Tunisia, directly leading to the inabikity to interdict the Soviet offensive or provide supply for the 6th army. An entire German-Italian army consisting of 15 divisions was rushed to Tunisia, on TOP of the already existing 6 German divisions in Lybia (not 3 like the lying jew said). Operation Uranus was directly coordinated with the Allied command to draw the Axis reserves west before launching the strike.Remember, these lying jews don’t want you to go ask Chat GPT if I’m correct. Go quickly ask it, and report back to slam dunk these bolshevik kikes.
>>542010043Over a million Soviet citizens served in the German army or SS, in either combat or supporting roles.
>>542019232>What are you even talking about?You're bringing up the eastern land Poland lost as a justification for taking German land.>We had about as much influence as the Germans did over Stalin’s redrawing of Poland’s bordersWhy didn't you give it back in 1991?>No, it was initially built by Poles and belonged to Poland for most of its existence.Really? History started in 997? I mean as an actual city with real buildings.>In fact, some of the most sought after architects in Gdańsk among the Polish aristocracy and nobility were Dutch and Flemish migrants.In other words... Germanic people, not Polish.>Gdańsk Great ArmouryThis building is hideous.
>>542012602Are you fucking blind mate? Take a look at what is to the left of Berlin. Nothing but red spots all over the Soviet occupation zone
>>542006654Cause Russians always win, they're superior warriors who cannot be defeated by force, simple as
>>542006654Because god favored them
>>542006654Superiority. Russian genetics is superior (according to hitler)
>>542021165Are you retarded? which battles did the soviet's fight to the east of Berlin?
>>542023683Nigger see here: >>542012149 said “every german city the russian came to”, not “every city there was a battle in”
>>542024214Okay retard which cities did they come to that where already rubble?
Hitler purchased the gold gamer pack and unlocked "instant train x1000 troops, missiles" Etc and thought he would win. He was unaware Russia is literally a bot farm and spammed millions of low level troops and they all rallied together and destroyed his base at once.
>>542026440give you people the internet was a mistake
>>542026812Maybe. But now Germany has upgraded it's mansion and completed all research tech trees and has spam accounts of it's own which gets free gold coins by the game developers (jews). While Russia can't unlock any higher troops. Sucks.
