No one is dumb enough today to believe it’s actually free
>>542010929I heard Moonman went gay
>>542010929Ask Israel they print money but need our tax money to keep us poor and get free healthcare. You can go to the hospital and just not pay also.
>>542011041I’m for sending Israel weapons to BYFO Palestine, not giving them free healthcare
I had a heart attack last night couldn't breathe, went to ER, they fixed me up with meds, then scheduled me for a surgery and were just going to let me sit in ER for labor day weekend in the hopes a surgery spot would open up. So I walked out, because ive had the surgery they were proposing before and it wasn't that effective, but it was very expensive.Can't fix a system that is that broken.
It can work if you kick out a lot of people. The thing that doesn't make sense with the democrats policies is that all the free gibs don't work if you keep bringing in more immigrants because everything is zero sum. That massive influx of people will strain your systems, if they want a socialist utopia they need to close down everything and cut out all the illegals so that systems aren't strained. That's how you know it's all just platitudes to trick idiots while they bring in more voters that will vote for them. All the budget that could go towards UBI and Free Healthcare is spent buying votes from illegal instead.
>>542011171Half the reason I support immigration is to bankrupt the socialist welfare state lol
>>542010929You already pay for Healthcare dumb fuck. Or at least you would if you paid taxes
>>542010929You can definitely make it cheaper.Remove the caps on residencies and build more hospitals against the wishes of the AMA lobby.Mandate more universities operate more training hospitals and fund them through the department of education.Create state-funded laboratories to develop and produce orphaned drugs and mandate companies produce an adequate yearly supply of these or else their patent goes to the public domain after a year, where the government produces these drugs in the state labs.Mandate that hospitals maintain an adequate supply of these drugs and then government purchases the rest for use in public hospitals. Cap drug prices, or engage in aggressive negotiations regarding price.It's really not that hard, just a matter of reorienting policy.
>>542011276Hey stupid, every dollar the govenrment spends on healthcare comes from your taxes. It’s not free money, dummy
>>542011394Kek that would be the same under a single payer system. Except it would go toward treatment instead of your dad's yacht. Who the fuck is saying it doesn't cost anything you fucking moron? Lmao
>>542010929>I break my arm>It gets fixed>I pay no moneyIt's that simple
>>542010929American doctors are grossly overpaid and kept in deliberately low supply by the AMA.American hospital administrators are grossly overpaid.The entire American insurance industry does not need to exist.I'd say you could make it free and benefit.
Free for parasite moochers and illegals while hard working taxpayers pay for it and also pay for their own expensive healthcare on top of that...What a fucking bunch of bullshit...Enough of this paying for lazy ass parasites...let them starve and die as nature intended...
>>542010929I dont want free health care, I want free market health care.The US artificially restricts the number of doctors with the residency program. Over 50% of qualified applicants are turned down each year because there wont be residency spots for them.Why does nobody talk about this?
Before Obama you could get emergency coverage for $15 a year.Or normal much better coverage with low deductibles for $25-30 a month.Then they started pushing taking it in the ass and getting aids as normal and making it mandatory society pay for the permanent long term healthcare of the results.Now it is 700 a month at the low end for far worse coverage, but if poor the government will subsidize part of that making you think they are helpful.Typical left crap force huge bills then partially cover them so you feel like you need their gibs to survive.Went from an easily forgotten bill less than cable or internet, to one of the largest of a household.You have to pay for all the toxic subcultures pushed by media like sleeping around and being gay, and transgender surgeries for children.
>>542012686Thats why I havent worked on paper for years now. I qualify for all sorts of government gibs and still get paid a solid wage.
>>542012825Based. I knew someone who did this and then got california to pay for childbirth ($50k bill that was just waived).
>>542012910I have three kids and pay no child support. The wagecucks literally pay for my kids. Since I dont work on paper they also qualify for financial aid.
>>542013021Pretty sure working under the table is illegal
I PROUDLY SUPPORT ISRAEL AND INCREASED STOCKHOLDER VALUE
It's possible and it would be cheaper to the taxpayer than the current system. But conservatives, being the subhuman puppets they are, don't want to see other people get healthcare because they've convinced it's immoral to tax billionaires.
>>542013163Only if you are a citizen.You can be a non citizen with healthcare and a driver's license and free food and healthcare and tuition for all your children as an illegal.
>>542013542That's cool bro. Working under the table is still illegal
>>542013163The only crime is getting caught.
>>542010929It doesn't make sense to the consevative brain hard wired to believe in zero-sum.
>>542013719Sounds like nigger babble to me
>>542011117Based goodgoy.
>>542013784Looking after your own children is "zero sum".
>>542010929No, but I'd rather my taxes go to treating people's illnesses than blowing up people for Israel.Or god forbid more tax breaks for wealthy boomers.
>>542010929Require all doctors to register for conscription and get the vans ready.
>>542012173There are only so many assholes you can pay three figures to sit in a room and google symptoms, anon.
>>542010929What's a few trillion more debt for obese mutt's doctor visits when we're already gone 20 trillion in the hole for the fucking Zionist world order?
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>>542010929>No one is dumb enough today to believe it’s actually freeJust talk to an average Canadian, there really are people that fucking dumb - they should be MAID
>>542014745How can anyone possibly claim to be for a high trust society when they themself cannot be trusted to help others when possible?
>>542012173>The US artificially restricts the number of doctors with the residency program. Over 50% of qualified applicants are turned down each year because there wont be residency spots for them.>Why does nobody talk about this?dats raycis
I used to think when the boomers/gen x died we could have nice things but they had lots of retarded kids
>>542015472Where’d they steal all those white coats
>>542015856dawg thats your future surgeon
>>542010929>No one is dumb enoughyou'd be surprised
>>542011678It must either go to diversity or yachts as a law of nature
Libtards already took this further and did paid healthcare, they were paying goyim $100 to get vaccinated. You're not even on their level yet.
>>542010929>No one is dumb enough todayanon........
>>542016390>No one is dumb enough todaywe have empirical evidence otherwise
>>542016310Hes not wrong
>>542016464USA socialist revolution will be worth it for the purity spiral kino alone
>>542010929If you’re a net drain it is free. The reason democracy encourages the idea is that the majority are net drains.
>>542016732Okay and where did all the net drains come from
>>542010929I lived in the US for a couple years. Trust me when I say I would rather get sick/hurt in Canada 100 times out of 100. You stupid mutts have been so brainwashed into thinking you aren't getting raped, and that socialized healthcare is the worst thing in the world. I get into the ER right away when I need to, and I don't wait to see a doctor
>freeYou underpay your Healthcare workers they will go private. Look at every sithole country like Greece and the UK for more info
>>542016674Not as funny as a bunch of half Mexicans arguing about who's the whitest
>>542016814Accross your south border for starters. If you’re a perfectly homogeneous society of a culture (race) that values decency and work, it can work well. If you’re a racially raped melting point, you have a lot of net drains, and they’ll vote for it. It’s interesting: the society most likely to fuck it up is where you have the most people who’d benefit from it short term by parasiting the people who actually produce.
>>542016906Yoyre so fucking brainwashed it’s not even funny. Socialized medicine is the death of freedom. You aren’t allowed to think criticallly
>>542016977Idk I find this what's happening nowadays as you describe very boring & could go for a change of pace i.e. Pol Pot or some sort of Eritrea/DPRK mashup
>>542017294I feel its already the worst of both worlds
>>542010929Which is why no nation calls it "free healthcare system", but "social health care system" (or sometimes "socialized").Are you retarded OP? No need to answer, I already know. Just for you to reflect on.
>every developed nation in the world can do it, but we have no choice but to keep letting the medical Jews steal our money
>>542017307You'd have a lot of obvious not working class people to get through before you got a communist purity spiral. With nazis it would happen immediately in the US because nearly everyone is a mutt
>>542017508Vast majority of African countries have zero free healthcare, yet somehow developed nations can’t accomplish this Imagine not even being able to accomplish what African did
>>542017508Even North Korea doesnt have free healthcare in most areasEurope abd Canada are literwlly worse abd more Communist than NK
>>542011763We could make it free if we didn't have nonwhites and retarded boomers, and a populace that wasn't obsessed with eating goyslop.