>three proposed strategies for Israel to win the war with Iran:>1) promise the Kurds, Baluchis, etc. in Iran that if they revolt against the Iranian government they'll get to become independent countries thus causing a bloody civil war in Iran (Turkey will object and this may cause further war and instability in the region)>2) recruit heavily indebted Americans to fight in a proposed land invasion of Iran (1.000.000 American soldier will be needed) by promising a debt forgiveness program>3) offer Taiwan and a deal on Iranian oil to China in exchange for withdrawing their material and diplomatic support to Iranso basically the lives of the Kurds, Baluchis and other Iranian minorities, Turks, Americans, Chinese, Taiwanese should be expended in order to completely destroy Iran, which will further destabilized the Middle-Eastno, it is not a caricature, it is a real article from the Jerusalem Post:https://www.jpost.com/defense-and-tech/article-906985
>>542011503They are comically evil
1 and 3 wont happeni would say that 2 might not happen since everyone knows how fucked modern warfare is but theres still merchaniries from latin america going to fight in ukr for money and some volunteers from west meh
>>542011503>This one was revealed to me in a dream
>>542011503lol>>542011506he linked the source. JPost is a legitimate newspaper.
yeah kill' em
>>542011507damn
With jews you loseReinhard Heydrich did nothing wrong
Hitler was right
We should expel the Jews
>>542011503Jews are a plague.
>>5420115031) Read a history book, multiple cunts at war over centuries have tried to cause internal strife and civil war in order to win and pick off the remnants (Peloponnesian War and lots of examples from WW1)2) This would never materialize because it would bankrupt America, not even Lindsay Graham thought of an invasion idea like this3) This one you have to be such a dumb goy to think we have infinite puppetmaster political capital to even coordinate
>>542011514what's the average Israeli's take on the conflict? just continue bombing ad infinitum? I mean rn I think America is doing it on its own and Israel can sit back.
>>542011503Is the war not over yet?
>>542011516no? usa media dont report it? iran constantly bomb amerigolem bases in jordan.
>>542011503Kurds are not doing shit us and turkey will spank them, I don't know about balochis but last time they didn't fight iran during the american attack. Ahwazi Arabs have too many loyalists to the center to revolt.I think 2 might be sort of plausible, not that americans can afford it but say you can and get people lining up, you can kick the can down and fuck them over later. Plus as long as you can get a few thousand americans to die the war transitions from unwilling americans to vengeance. You can on the side offer a citizenship path and have tons of latin americans lining up.But, does America even have the jet fuel and bases to sustain a ground op like this? Will europe play along? Will china and russia sit still? They really need to wrap up ukraine before it too.
>>542011518it would be political suicide for the US to engage in a ground war
>>542011518ukraine will escalate further because germans arm themselves plus it was taboo like in 2023 to hit energy targets inside russia but now its not. west always crosses red lines of russia. >>542011519it would be political suicide for president that promised no new wars during his whole election campaign lmao. iran already lost in syria and lebanon. usa striked irans nuclear facilities(2025) gaza destroyed. isr won. irans economy about collapse.-you before iran usa war
>>542011518>Will china and russia sit still?Russia can't do shit (see: Syria collapsing) and China will Do Nothing, Win.
>>542011521russia still keep their bases in syria
>>542011520>west always crosses red lines of russia.poor Russiaif only they could do something to stop the violence
>>542011523you will beg usa to save your ass if they strike europe. careful what you wish for.
>>542011524sure we will, but if they won't we will manage on our own, we are stronger than Ukraine and they managed tooRussia started the killing and it's right we oppose them
>>542011519Letting iran maintain control of hormuz is political, economic and every other level suicide. America is between a rock and a hard place. They killed all the calm thinkers in the IRGC hoping for a civil war.>>542011521Syria is not collapsing the other way around its prospering right now. Or do you mean 'Syria's collapse'? Yeah russia didn't help bashar, I think they struck a deal with israel on the down low for syria russian forces were allowed to peacefully leave and jolani went and visited russia. Fall of syria also halted hezbollah's supply lines and cleared the way for israel and america when it came to syrian airspace.
>>542011503Why do they hate eye ran so much in particular though? they aren't even neighbors
>>542011525>we are stronger than Ukraineonly financially>Russia started the killingshouldnt have expanded hato>>542011526goylani is obivously cia plant
>>542011527iranians have allies in iraq lebanon yemen and syria(till 2024) that opposes zog forces
>>542011528>only financiallyno. We have triple the manpower and a way larger industrial base too.
>>542011526Thing about syria is that israel doesnt want them calm or stable for many many reasons. Main one is that Syria steals from them the IMEU corridor which they want to run through Israel, second is hezbollah, third is israel fears reformation of northern arab sunni powers they're surrounded by those unlike the shias. And those northern arab sunnis can also become continuity for turkey to reach their borders and to them turkey is an unknown player who could be even more of a nightmare than iran.>>542011528He's not. Have you seen the shit his father posts in arabic? Jolani is that one in a million leader a country sometimes gets. He's smart and realizes where syria stands and that they cant do resistance stuff.
>>542011530ukranians are low iq they can fight forever. good luck trying to enlist germans, french, british, italians to fight for ukranians trash.
>>542011503i think us are rerouting massive amounts of interceptor missile to israel and uae before initiating powerplant daylets be honest the worthless avg irani goatfucker wouldnt have chimped out in the street anyway for regime change you need a particular blend of thirdie subhumanism for thatdumb, massive pouplation no jobs etceconomic squeeze wont create the chimp out iraniLet the goatfuckers live without electricity lol and maybe you will see IRGC activity more clearly like one ligth bulb in a sea of darkness although its clear they are hiding in underground tunnel complexes like rats
>>542011531>turkey is an unknown player who could be even more of a nightmare than iran.this naive thing to say on many levels. why? turkey is loyal nato member with fragile economy. you cant expect turkey to be next iran. turkey is depended on energy exports and western arms. turkish society is godless secular capitalist with no soul. iran have resistance and martry culture of shia faith. totally two different country.>syria stands and that they cant do resistance stuff.they were ressisting pretty well in idlib against assad. did they lose jihadist mentality suddently? totally not a western plant.
>>542011533t.
guys suddently this thread stinks with curry and shit. we dont have sewer rat running around right?
>>542011514Don't you feel a little guilty for putting the Americans in deep shit in order to destroy Iran?They are wasting millions, dying (only a few for now) and as >>542011526 pointed out Hormuz is ruining their credibility as a world superpower.This war was meant to remove your biggest geopolitical rival but the truth is that the status quo was much better for the American interests than this catastrophic unwinnable conflict.
goatfucker thinks they are any better
unlike you my skin colour is not same with human waste lol
>>542011538>indian comes to israel's defenseevery time
>>542011531>Jolani is that one in a million leader a country sometimes gets.Let's check his curriculum vitae: he was in both Al Qaeda *and* ISIS.That's pretty impressive I must admit.
>>542011537why would they feel guilty when they achieved what they wanted for so long? lol
>>542011541first thing this rat goylanis thugs did was killing religious minorities in latakia
>>542011539a goatfucker with no identity, a product of its kauta ancestors bleaching itself out of self hatred lmaoi know for a fact every buckbroken turkshit secretly wished atleast once in its miserable buckbroken life that it wasnt born into pisslamso close to getting accepted by mlecchas yet so far lmaobuckbroken subhumans
>>542011503The jews are almost cartoonishly evil lol
>>542011544You're indian tho
Israelis are the only people not LARPing their genuine desire to get rid of people they see as an opposition and they're hated for it. Everyother group would want to do the same to another specific group but it's somehow normalized among them all to just yap all day and be full of resentment instead of actively doing anything. Israel should inspire respect, not disgust.
>>542011546and you are a new world mutt that got mindfucked by vatnigger propaganda and cry >saaaar multipolar world saaaarlmao
>>542011534>turkey is loyal nato member with fragile economy.There is no such thing as loyalty in politics and Greece is heavily testing Turkey. Turkey is actually not that fragile in that there are no alternatives. America can't sanction turkey and not expect people to starve. Turkey has lots of rich neighbors and international clout too. They're the only people that could attack israel with little repercussions.>turkey is depended on energy exports and western arms. turkish society is godless secular capitalist with no soul. iran have resistance and martry culture of shia faith. totally two different country.The other way around, west is dependant on turkish energy exports and arms.Turkey has millions of hardline islamists and >90% of Turks hate Israel.>they were ressisting pretty well in idlib against assad. did they lose jihadist mentality suddently? totally not a western plant.A nation's character doesnt change so suddenly. Eastern Syria is quite subhuman salafist and wahhabist. Central and western Syria are overwhelmingly secular leaning. Especially since they follow the leader like saudis. If the leader is secular-leaning they're secular-leaning.Jihad mentality never leaves them.>>542011541You got oneshotted by russian propaganda. You probably thought druze/alawites/christians were genocided right? lol.Go look it up, foru days ago damascus did a 'green city' experiment with no cars. yesterday they had a saif nabeel(iraqi singer) music concert with thousands of syrian women in attendance. he was playing basketball with tom barrack. Jolani is a high IQ demon who can play all sides.As for the genocide accusations, 2500 in 2 years? Thats lightwork after a 14 year civil war and with how much sunnis were killed.You've been lied to a lot, 1.5m syrians have returned. Even the kurds switched to supporting him against SDF.
>>542011547historically this attitude has caused the wars that wrecked Europe in the first half of the 20th century
>>542011548Ok, but you're indian
>>542011547Well said rabbi, very well said. Epstein was a hero, the goyim wouldn't understand
>>542011549Btw by jihad mentality I mean dying in battle for the religion-people-country, its the same way christians can prefer nations with secular institutions and be nationalistic but still fight in religions fervor.
FYI OP there is only one option here, #2. Trump will demand a draft a few weeks from now, just before the midterms, and make the 2026 election about Defending Israel. Israel will then pour billions into nonstop advertising in boomer areas, and this will completely fail because gas is $5 now.We are approaching America's largest crisis since the Vietnam War, and very likely our Suez Crisis moment.
>>542011538>goatfuckerhttps://files.catbox.moe/zejelm.webm
>>542011549>They're the only people that could attack israel with little repercussions.i really hope they do it. it will be so funny
>>542011547>spread sugary diabeetus inducing moralism and guilt into every place infested by them>goyim actually fall for itcan't blame them
>>542011505You underestimate the US government. Trump could impose a draft and it would still get about 40% of congress voting for it. Enough to create enlistment rolls and send out letters. Enough where individual states will mobilize their national guard units for rapid deployment, to show Trump their support.40% -forty percent- of American voters actually want men and teens drafted to die for Israel. For older baptists, dying for Israel is the greatest GIFT God could give their children.
>>542011503Why not just nuke it as option 4?
>>542011551better than a identity less history less culture less new world subhuman
>>542011549>west is dependant on turkish energy exports and arms.lmaooo you ate turkish propaganda very well. all turkish weapons are fake and built by western compenents. turkey cant even build jet engines. turkey recently bought euro fighter. do you think germany and england allowed turkey buy this plane to fight israel? kek turkey totally depended on west from finance to armaments.>Greece is heavily testing Turkey.another bullshit turkish propaganda talking point. you wanna us to believe 10 million country depended on tourism income wanna wage war against another nato country with 90 million pop?
>>542011556if Israel ever loses a war it might choose to drop a few nukes here and therethere's nothing funny about the current situationthe status quo was 100% better for the whole world
>>542011558even if they force enlist everyone how you can fight with low morale people? i dont think forced conscription is feasible in west.
>>542011554Zoomers are very anti Israel and don't want the US involved in a pointless war They would never do it
>>542011549>Turkey has millions of hardline islamistsi would explain how this bullshit like rest of your points but you probably think this way because turkish propaganda target people like you living in islamic world. probably any turk would laugh at this claim. even muslim ones.
>>542011563>how you can fight with low morale peoplefor about six yearsIn seven days, it will be 9/11's 25th Anniversary. Trump will make a speech for Patriot Day to explain how far we've come in stopping terrorism, and how far we must still go to prevent another 9/11 by preemptively bombing Iran. The same speech George Bush gave in 2004 prior to our invasion of Iraq.
>>542011503>recruit heavily indebted Americans to fight in a proposed land invasion of Iran (1.000.000 American soldier will be needed) by promising a debt forgiveness programhow would this even work? like wouldn't you have to spend manpower and resources to train people who's only interaction with war is playing call of duty?wouldn't it take atleast 1.5 - 2 years to atleast train them to a degree where they aren't literal meat fodder?
what if the US heavily irradiates the iranian hormuz coastline the swamps and what not a long band so atleast the gunboat, short range drone harrasment and shooting of ships are stopped
>>542011568then the polluted water stays there and destroys all the gulf countries, preventing them from exporting oil. It also floats up the rivers and destroys our ally Iraq. It also goes into the sky through evaporation and comes down as radioactive acid rain on israelso this is not an option. Also, this is the plot of dr. strangelove
>>542011503>The Pentagon reportedly asked outside analysts this month for creative ideas on Iran. That request itself is worth paying attention to. Over 180 days into a war that produced the most intensive American air campaign since Iraq in 2003, the CIA has now confirmed what the strike data was already reflecting. >First, Iran's military capacity did not collapse. Second, air power resolved neither the institutional problem nor the negotiating problem. Third, the Pentagon still lacks the tools needed to end the war with the Islamic Republic.Not how I imagine a superpower would behave
>>542011568>>542011569the polluted water would also east and infect western india, killing everyone there, leaving only central and north india/pakistan
>>542011567>wouldn't it take atleast 1.5 - 2 years to atleast train them to a degree where they aren't literal meat fodder?Dude
>>542011560You drink urine and eat feces
>>542011554Do you think this is actually feasible?If you lose this war it would crush your country's influence worldwide
>>542011571what about any other buffer zone that doesnt travel via water or the environment
>>542011567those days ukranians thugs literally kidnap people from streets and send them directly to contact zone. you never heard it before? >>542011566 usa already bombed iran for months and achieved nothing.
>>542011573dont give this vermin (you) you are literally talking with demon worshipper
mine it like the korean DMZ then. cut off the ones on the other side
>>542011570Nations, States and Governments are only as good as the men who lead them. Trump, Hegseth, JDV, Thiel (guy who JDV works for), Musk and Netanyahu are all retards who do not know what they're doing and do not care about the consequences. Trump especially does not care, he has never cared, and the only time he did care was when his mother was still alive. You can chart Trump's mental problems vs. his mother's health since she was central in restraining his worst habits while his father enabled all of them.Trump found a way to go broke running a casino. In Atlantic City. Trump found a way to bankrupt both TWA and Eastern Airlines. Trump has found a way to bankrupt the US government, particularly the Social Security Fund that all our debt and all our war debt is leveraged against. When that runs out, Americans over 65 won't have healthcare. By then all the boomers including Trump will be dead, so they don't care about the consequences of what comes after. There is no "after" for them. They came they saw they took.
>>542011577Tbh I'm not religious
>>542011579Sad state of affairs
>>542011577>SAAAAAAR LET ME APPEAL TO YOUR ABRAHAMIC ROOTS SAAARR PLEEJ DONAAT TALK TO HINDU SAAAAR. MUSLIM CHRISTKEK FRAAAANDS SAAAAARlmao
>>542011580religions are scam but this fact doesnt change that indians are spawn of devil
>>542011557The majority of people in a mental asylum right now are more sane and make more sense than you. And yet you're here outside.
>>542011584from the buttblasted reply I'd call what I said a bingo, try not to run over anyone to quench the butthurt karim
Jews are pretty much playing with the AI turned off. So when mutts are forcefully conscripted en masse (whites only) what are they going to do about it?
>>542011585using the norwood scale, how bald are you?
>>542011587hopefully not as bald as your penis
>>542011574>Do you think this is actually feasible?Yes. I think Trump will call a draft. It won't actually get a positive vote but he'll be able to do a "limited" deployment of Marine Expeditionary Units and Guardsmen. It will then fail catastrophically and we will either be pushed out of Iraq, or besieged in Baghdad. Trump then loses the war right there, admits failure and evacuates or tries fighting it out and kills thousands of American GIs whom he is personally responsible for. President Trump then becomes the first US President to be Impeached, Convicted and Removed from office for violating USC a1 $8 (only Congress can declare war).The thing is, 40% of the county will still functionally go along with it. Of that 40%, 20% are content to just let it happen for whatever reason (helplessness etc) while the other 20% actively support dying for Israel because they actually, seriously worship Israel. This final 20% lives in the South and has 118 votes across the House of Representatives and the Senate, or about 43% of a majority vote. The Jews know this.
>>542011585I imagine someone using the term buttblasted IRL and die from second hand embarrassment. I genuinely didn't understand what you meant because you seem insane like a lot of antisemites.
>>542011550Historically, that attitude caused whites to take over the planet and become 40% of the world population. And then they abandoned it and lost all theiir countries and are going extinct looool
>>542011590>IRLlook everyone the redditor is confused again and pavlovianly replied with his pretrained attitude in the land of usernames, gold and reputationplease pay attention now, we aren't IRL if you even know the acronyms you are using to fit in
>>542011588
>>542011518Bait them into a land war then spam chemical weapons and land mines. Basically what you guys did in the 80’s
>>542011572what? just asking a questioni'm not an expert in military training>>542011576that is ukrainedo you really think that tactic would be possible in a first world country?
>>542011592IRL was invented around the same time AFK was invented, it's probably older than youmy point was that the internet isn't some kind of alternative reality in which you engage with your second personality. if you say weird retarded shit here I can only assume you also attempt to use terms akin to "pavlovianly" or "buttblasted"not hard to understandisrael won and you need to go back to your brown shithole btw
OP herethe problem with making this kind of thread is that you find yourself next to many obnoxious antisemitesbut I made it anyway lol
>>542011503Did you just realize Israelis are psychotic and comically evil?
>>542011596nobody asked you for an internet history lesson golem, nor to be the internet slang police, although from your great training as "heroic" defender of jews in anonymous chechen mma forums you play the part well, is that hard to understand or does jew cum impair your ability to look at the letter on the screen, try wiping it before the next blast>israel wonno shit with golems like you who do it for free losing should leave their vocabulary
>>542011505Unironically, if the US were to make some sort of Foreign Legion like France, where unrevokable citizenship is given to anyone willing to enlist and fight against Iran for two years, the enrollments from foreigners, and illegals aliens would beat out the million in less than a year
>>542011598Not really: Israel has been in a spiral of moral degradation in the last 30 years but in the early '90s there were realistic plans for a peace deal with the Palestinians (until the murder of Yitzhak Rabin).There is still a minority of Israeli that opposes Netanyahu today.
>>542011599typing more words to vent your feelings while jews have the highest TFR in the middle east, high standards of living and actively annihilate people who try to mess with them instead of making memes and complaining onlineposting some really witty homosexual remark or marking a really good point won't change thatnow you can go back to morocco or lybia or whatever the fuck you crawled from
>>542011600I support this but only if we pull the rug out from under them right before the 2 year mark
>>542011595>do you really think that tactic would be possible in a first world country?yes absolutely
>>542011503(((They))) caused several wars, this is nothing
>>542011597Ironically antisemites are Israel's greatest friends.Insisting Zionism and Judaism are the same is exactly what Israel wants in order to give itself legitimacy.In actuality Zionists are deranged antisemitic heretics LARPing as the semites they genocide.Israel is essentially our North Korea but more deranged and unhinged.
>>542011602the jews high standard of living comes from my taxesmost americans are done with israel and will wash their hands of them once trump is gone
>>542011600>where unrevokable citizenship is given to anyone willing to enlist and fight against Iran for two yearsoh yeah, this will surely happen when the supreme court was deliberating on birthright citizenship earlier this year lel
Genuinely considering making aliyah to Israel. Fortunate to have Jewish ancestry
>>542011602you seem to be confused, understandably given your IQ fit only to slurp circumcised semitic penises, I'm hardly denying any of the things you said in the first part, I applaud their boldness and good instincts, I just understand the depth of their victory and how they get away with it, I applaud them, creating lowly guilt ridden chatbots like you was the first step
>>542011607Jews have an average iq of 120 and are 2 std deviations above whites.
>>542011597>>542011606This releases in September, by the way.
>>542011602Israel is in a self-destructive path with too many fronts of war open at the same time.The Israeli get angry if you compare Netanyahu and ben Gvir to the nazis but this kind of criticism may very well be helpful for Israel since nazi Germany ultimately destroyed itself by being too aggressive.
>>542011613>currently one active front
>>542011613Israel already won. With high Jewish birthrates there will be more Jewish children than Italian children in like 20 years.
>>542011607i'm sure seething about it online some more will change something>>542011610whether or not jews are liked they win, their support doesn't come from being revered but rather from having people from their community with immense wealth, power and networksi can't understand people who think arguing over israel daily has any influence on its power, as if normies will one day rise up and go to war with israel. best they'll do is a palestinian flag in their bio>>542011613nazi germany was facing the most developed nations in the world with the strongest military, israel is facing a bunch of retards who couldn't win a war against zimbabwe if they had to
>>542011615I agree that the low birth rate is a massive problem for Italy but Israel is facing a much bigger problem is the loss of moral authority of the Israeli State.This may cause huge problems like the smarter Israeli leaving the country, with only the dumber extremists remaining, or losing the support of the American ally which is the greatest asset for Israel's security.
>>542011589Sorry for the dead guys but this will be interesting to watch from afar
>>542011615it doesn't take a genius to realize their aim is a TFR around 3.5 or even 4.0they want to control more territory to make way for their demographic developmentmeanwhile plenty of arab countries are already near below 2.0 and will fall below that in a few years
>>542011591Nope. Whites conquered the world solely for financial reasonsThey weren't going around invading countries just because they didn't liked them
>>542011561Did america want to wage a war against iran?Do you think all states follow the interests of their people?Do you underestimate the nationalist youth in greece? Do you know who egypt is going to stand with, with ethiopia holding sword of damocles over their neck? Do you think the rest of europe wouldn't come to greece's aid? Do you think Israel will sit still? The chessboard is finalizing>>542011565Your points about syria were also big time bullshitI think you underestimate how many 'islamists' there are in turkey, and by islamist i dont mean salafi, i mean regular people who dont pray or pray infrequently, who dont like israel blowing up 1,200 mosques, who support syria, who celebrate mevlid, or even irreligious pragmatists who understand things like strategic depth and that europe is a closed door. These are the exact people right now trying to set air defense in syria, in photos throwing tawhid with captured sdf and PKK fighters. I can't say I know turkey's exact internal politics and the numbers, but the image youre painting of atheists clawing at europe's door is outdated. Turkey is involved in syria, libya, sudan, somalia, has defense agreement with saudi, has deep relations with qatar and more. Again not saying turkey is le ummah warrior who will free palestine this weekend, im saying history has a recurring arc. And when it comes to components Turkey is sovereign in al lthe ones it needs to start turtling like Iran. Assymetry is perfectly valid.Plus, what can America sanction? Everyone needs Turkey in someway.
>>542011617the support of america was never manifested out of popular sentiment towards Israelthere is a strong jewish lobby in the US that will stay in place for a long time (and has existed for a long time too) and has long as its there Israel is supportedyou are not changing the world by being mad and telling people you don't like x or ythey pretend to give a shit to appease you but your opinion is never taken into account when it comes to such thingswhy would smart israelis leave their country when they'll be hated and mistreated everywhere else? thus why they stay home and fight and breed.
>>542011606Yes this is true but it's also true that the vast majority of jews worldwide are zionists, unfortunately.I'm not a antisemite, but I think judaism as a ideology should disappear regardless of their opinions on Israel
>>542011622Spain and Portugal used to be dictatorships and they peacefully transitioned into democracies in a few decades.You don't always need a war to change things.
>text walls by armchairs
>>542011503You tricked me into reading ai slop
>>542011503>jews>promiseLOL STOPPED READING RIGHT THERE
>>542011503>2) recruit heavily indebted Americans to fight in a proposed land invasion of Iran (1.000.000 American soldier will be needed) by promising a debt forgiveness programmore mutts for the meat grinder lmfao
>>542011503Who gives a fuck, drop the NOOOOOOOOKS
>>542011900>thread moved to /pol/>schizo posting begins
>>542012101NOOOOOOOOOKS NOWWWWWWWWWW
>>542011503they are juden. literal demons cosplaying as human beings. this comes as no surprise. if anything i'm shocked they're not screeching about turning iran into an irradiated hellscape.