How real is post partum psychosis? What expulpatory power does it have over the murder of three of one's own children? I know probably nobody here is a woman to answer the second question but neither am I so I've got no better idea.
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>>542013171It’s real. Some sick black magic shit. Pagan stuff.
The one guy: I do not recognize the authenticity of this court and I am not represented by this country, and I'm about to make that everyone's problem for 7 weeks.Next time you won't be Jewish Communists giving your entire republic over to Jewish Communists.I'm the one who created the USA before it exists. You die for that. Not some of you, most of you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuPUG_SqhmI
All these concepts are modern justice gibberish to protect people who do wrong.If she is insane, if she was in some state of mind at the time, bla bla bla. Its all bullshit.In a reasonable society she would inmediately get locked down for life (and tortured) or tortured to death for what she did. No questions asked.
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>>542013171>How real is post partum psychosis?A lawyer's job is to pick the most retarded jurors possible so they believe the retarded arguments they make to get their client off.
>>542013171her feet pics are amazing.
>>542013171It's real, but not 8 months later real. It's also not "hate my children with a cold, calculated rage". Usually it's the opposite and they get delusional about what they need to do to support and protect their kid, and it's within the first few months.
>>542013171Most of all of them are already bipolar. So don’t ever get a bipolar woman pregnant.
>>542013171>How real is post partum psychosis? It's very real. It's widely attested to in the medical literature. Pregnancy begins an enormous cascade of hormonal changes which permanently change the bodies and brains of women who undergo it. When you have so much in physical flux, it should be unsurprising to anyone with even a layperson's understanding of the relationship between hormones and the brain that psychosis is something that may result. >What expulpatory power does it have over the murder of three of one's own children?This is the interesting question, and it's one western society answers poorly, in my opinion. From the perspective of someone who's not a murderer, isn't any murder almost definitionally insane? What is the difference in culpability between someone who is detached from reality to the point where they don't know right from wrong and someone who e.g. was abused as a child and developed anger issues so severe that, even though he knew right from wrong at the time of the crime, felt anger so intensely that he lost control of himself? This is the problem with our legal system in a general sense, and in my opinion, it's all derivative of a retributive justice system -- one which accepts as a valid output the imposition of suffering on the deserving. This is, after all, the core tension running through the Clancy case: those who think an insane act deserves retribution and those who think it deserves treatment. This doesn't directly answer your question, I know, but I don't think the easy answer does the problem justice. It defies a simple answer because the mechanism itself is a simplicity layered over infinitely messy human cognition and experience.
>>542013546>Usually it's the opposite and they get delusional about what they need to do to support and protect their kid, and it's within the first few months.Usually. Sometimes there is an unusual case. You're kind of assuming the conclusion by saying "usually, therefore this is the usual case".
>>542013878>Pregnancy begins an enormous cascade of hormonal changes which permanently change the bodies and brains of women who undergo it.doesn't this imply that you shouldn't experience after the first pregnancy? Her body should've already undergone those permanent changes after her first child right?
>>542013171Its real and on a spectrum. Most commonly effects women with bipolar-disorder. Still not an post-hoc justification for killing your kids.If the state doesn't try the case again it's a psyop. Simple as. Post partum depression isn't new and she was a delivery room nurse so she probably understood better than most women what was happening (if anything was happening) to remove herself from the situation so she didn't strangle her 3 kids one by one.
Based ShoeOnHead.She's a real Bro, anons.She may have had some problems in her past, but she is now married, and a mother, and she thinks Clancy should fry.https://youtu.be/0gMN3CVBX0Y
>>542014027watching this shite' in 2026.
>>542013171>How real is post partum psychosis?its literally not in the DSM
>>542014090Being this smug in 2026
>>542014027Coal burner no thanks nice expertly waxed pussy and asshole though OK.
>>542014003Every single time, the body goes through the same massive hormonal cocktail.
>>542013171postpartem occurs somewhat often. its basically that the baby eats all the females hormones that balance her mind because they are the most important ones so they can grow. then when they are shit out of the pussy the female doesnt have the good hormones anymore so she feels insane. but that said, postpartem PSYCHOSIS is EXTREMELY RARE. and it doesn't look like methodically planning murders, it looks like shcizoid insanity. this was NOT post partem psychosis.this was a control freak bitch who felt beholden to her perfect image and imprisoned by it. she was more in love with her image of a perfect mother but as jung would say her shadow hated having to maintain that image (even tho she didn't have to, that's her own ego) so she killed the kids to "escape". entirely "sane" in a fucked up way. the fact she didnt tell her doctors she had thoughts of hurting the kids cause it would risk cps picking them up was too much of a blow to her perfectionist image so she LIED TO HER DOCTORSALSO postpartem doesnt last 8 months after birth. its high in months 1-3. this is all a LIE.
>>542014260if it didn't occur the first time or the second time, why the third time 8 months later?
Not guilty by insanity is fake and no doubt jewish. No murderer has ever been cured. Why is this even a thing?
>>542013171Its real but justifies nothing except a draft exemption for the husband. Deuteronomy 24:5“When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: but he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.”
>>542013171Really shouldnt matter why you killed your own kids or what was wrong with your brain. Its not about whether you deserve punishment its about keeping society safe. If you randomly get impulses that make you murder other humans then societies not safe with you in it and so you should be in prison forever. You let her out, she remarries, has more kids and murders them too, more victims. Have to stop that.
>>542013171it's what happens when a woman's pre partum psychosis of having a beautiful baby who never cries or poops or is naughty in any way gets shattered by reality, and the only way she can think of to deal with it is to go psychotically murderously insane instead of enforcing any form of discipline over either the baby or herself
>>542013878>Pregnancy begins an enormous cascade of hormonal changes which permanently change the bodies and brains of women who undergo it.this is just an excuse for fat ugly women to stay fat and ugly after pregnancy. Every woman I know capable of hard work/dedication/and who put a premium on her looks has maintained the same sexy pre pregnancy figure after pregnancy. The lazy women become fat.
>>542013171How real is SIDS?
>>542014114>its literally not in the DSMIt literally is, included in Section 3 of the DSM: “Conditions for Further Study”. While there remains debate about its differentiation from other psychoses, that there exists a phenomenon known as postpartum psychosis is not debated. It is firmly established.
>>542014325That's an interesting question. I don't have the answer. Maybe it did, but to a lesser degree, and she recovered enough to function daily. Maybe it didn't, but something about the physical state of her brain made her sensitive to it the third time. Maybe something about being an older mother meant her body overproduced hormones as she entered her third pregnancy or prevented her recovery from it afterwards. All of these things are reasonable doubts.
>>542013171>How real is post partum psychosis?
It's a lie like eveything women say
>>542014492Very real. Mothers and doctors murder thrir children with vaccines and pillows all of the time. Plus the baby can have internal organ damage from a rough birth or a problem with their heart or blood that goes undetected. Hospitals screen for blood defects now though while illegally collecting their dna
>>542014488There's something genuinely gross about reading my post and somehow finding a way to talk about "sexy pre-pregnancy figure" and like "hard work," or whatever.
>>542013171Idk, but this woman is a witch.A Massachusettes witch.She is of obvious old world Italian witch lineage, anons.Witchery is big in Italy and in Massachusettss.This person is a Massachusettss Witch, with roots in old Italian Witchery. And you can't tell me any different.I know a witch when I see one.
>>542013171Ngl idk how anyone can look at this and not go completely mad. Some ancient evil in those fucking eyes
More pseudoscience bullshit excuses for leftist psychos....
>>542013171It is very real. And imagine women on their period and then menopause. Their life is one big imbalance of hormones.
>>542014773Your posts are garbage anyways
>>542014813Who art thou that art so wise in the ways of science?
>>542014986I come from witches, myself.
>>542014773oh noes genuinely heckin gross? likewise, there's something genuinely faggy about your posts and finding a way to make your replies to ur posts even faggier. i didn't even read ur garbage post just got triggered at that cuck fat acceptance propaganda..
>>542014965Feel free to write one you think is higher quality
>>542015043You son of a witch!
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>>542013171It's not real at all. Some women are evil and need to be culled
>>542015061I already did. It contained no pseudo-intellectual nonsense like yours.
>>542015051>cuck fat acceptance propagandaThis thread isn't about fat people. It's about Lindsey Clancy, who murdered her three children under postpartum psychosis. My post wasn't about fat people. It was about Lindsay Clancy... who murdered her three children under postpartum psychosis. Can you imagine why you might seem like you're VERY fucking stupid right now?
>>542015194What was pseudo-intellectual about my post, exactly? What didn't make sense to you?
>>542013171Just found out this whore is the same age as me. I still look like Im in my early 20's and she looks like a hardfaced brickface whore. Crazy how ugly people inside are usually ugly outside as well.
>>542015197it doesn't matter what the thread is about u veered into excusing fat fuck ugly women as if they have no choice and i called u out faggot>murdered her three children under postpartum psychosisshe was not diagnosed with post partem psychosis, ever. this was a fable her defense spun up retard. she lied to her practitioners before the murders about her symptoms so she could maintain her image.YOU are stupid, and gay.
>>542015197>who murdered her three children under postpartum psychosisA theory not supported by the facts.
>>542013171My children’s mother got it both times. The first time was the craziest because I had no idea how bad it was until I came home from work and she had packed the whole house up like we were moving and claimed it was because we were going camping. I took her to the hospital immediately. The second time wasn’t as bad because I took lots of time off work and we were ready for it.
>>542013171Who cares? My three kids are (roughly) the same age as hers were at the time of the murders, and I can think of nothing more disgusting than abusing the trust / love they have in me as a parent by purposely killing them, especially in such a intimate / up-close way. This bitch had all of the resources in the world to improve her situation but refused to use them properly.
>>542014813First thing I thought when I saw her emotionless stare with those soulless black eyes.
>>542015352>she was not diagnosed with post partem psychosis, ever.If doctors discover your cancer at stage 4, does it mean you didn't have cancer until they discovered it? If a tree falls in the woods and no one's there to hear it, does it make a sound?
>>542014737What you’re describing is murder and organ failure, that’s not a super unique syndrome that needs to be categorized as its own separate thing.
>>542013171Sure it's real, but we should execute anyone who does that shit, because you have an opportunity to just extract yourself from a situation.Just stand the fuck up and walk out the GODDAMN DOOR OK?Also.Why don't women have friends anymore? Women used to be friends. a phone isn't a friend.
>>542015437>This bitch had all of the resources in the world to improve her situation but refused to use them properly.exactly. This whole narrative about how "the system failed her". How? what should "the system" have done with a woman who was lying about her symptoms and not following their directions? The only way the "system" can not "Fail people" is by being heavy handed and locking them up against their will and we all know that's not happening.if any justice existed in this world this witch would be shot in the head and buried in some back lot outside the courthouse immediately post trial
>>542015511not even remotely the same issue. in ur scenario the cancer is determined to exist. in this scenario post partem psychosis is not determined to have existed. u are stupid and think ur smart, i can tell by the way u write. the worst kind of idiot
>>542014488No, you just don't like this objective truth of biology and rationale it away by your personal anecdotes. "It didn't happen when I was looking so it wasn't real."
doesn't matter if it's real or not, honestly
>>542015592Why waste a bullet? If she wanted to die from a fall, finish the job by tossing her off a the nearest roof.
>>542015734my personal anecdotes are wide and varied. women who care about their looks and have pride in themselves get slim after kids. sharty wal martian frumpy fat loser women stay fat after and use the pregnancy as an excuse. "objective truth" my ass
>>542015734sorry that ur ugly frumpy wife is fat prolly stinks and now ur coping though.
>i killed my children because i was le sad :(Even if it's true, why should we even entertain this as a defence?
>>542015685You're totally right, anon. Cancer and postpartum psychosis are not "the same issue." Cancer is, roughly, the uncontrolled replication of useless cells which grow their own blood supply and choke your regular organs to death. Postpartum psychosis is, loosely... psychosis, but probably caused by hormonal changes after giving birth. You did a very good job noticing that these are different words and different concepts. It's probably also important here to make it clear that trees falling are not cancer or psychosis, either, just in case you have trouble clearing that hurdle, too. It's called an ANALOGY, anon. And, for the record, she was actually diagnosed with postpartum psychosis and bipolar after the murders, so the analogy here is actually pretty precise kek
>>542015916exactlyinsanity plea needs to be removed entirely if possible
>>542015997They are not the same because cancer actually exists. "Postpartum psychosis" is just women being women.
>>542015997what a waste of a post. i questioned ur logic due to the fact that she was only diagnosed with these by a HIRED GUN EXPERT, hired by the defence, FOR THE DEFENCE. do you know how expert reports work in court? "i pay you, you say this". Yes. it's that bare. if u wanna play that game, the prosecution had their own expert that said NO she doesn't have this
>>542013878>This is, after all, the core tension running through the Clancy case: those who think an insane act deserves retribution and those who think it deserves treatment.This case doesn't really fit that mould. As I see it, you throw the book at this woman to set an example. There's no treating her postpartum at this point; it's over. Taking the psychosis claim at face value, she should have done more to protect her family from herself. I find it difficult to believe that she didn't have even a moment of clarity for ~8 months.
>>542015197>Lindsey Clancy, who murdered her three children under postpartum psychosisThis has not been proved.It may yet be shown that it was premeditated murder
>>542016215it must be viewed as what would be best for society because at a certain point any type of justice or retribution is not enoughfor the good of society, there should be know allowances made on the criminals behalf
>brunette with big eyes, a big nose, pointy features He has a type.
>>542016354most men do it comes from usually who ur first crush is from school days
>>542016354any man that wears shorts like that is not to be trusteddoes not absolve lindsay though
>>542013171Someone experiencing psychosis doesn't send her husband on an errand so she can murder the kids. This was first degree premeditated murder.
>you can be completely competent and in control to pre-plan a triple murder, researching and organising ways to avoid being stopped but still be "out of control of your own actions">there's zero empirical way to test this, literally the only thing you have to go off is "trust me bro">any woman's hormones can make her into this out of control murderer for no reason>women should not be responsible for their actions in such a stateHow can you accept these ideas as true but also think there's any point to ever bringing any woman to trial over anything?How can you accept these ideas as true but also accept that women should be in positions of authority?
>>542013171>What expulpatory powerIt's not a pass. Even if her insanity defense goes through, she'll be locked up in a mental hospital. People, specially men, are framing this in outright lies. Dishonest discussions.
>>542013171BURN THE WITCH
>>542013171The true answer is in betweenOur fairytale land of no responsibility is like the way Netherlands became degenerate from flexing how few social controls they will need Inb4 a foreigner immigrates and has no integration when complaining about her low temperament husband There needs to be a responsibility beyond flexing how degenerate you can be, pretending laziness means degenerate surroundings will not fall apart
>>542016843>Even if her insanity defense goes through, she'll be locked up in a mental hospital. yeah and she may be out in a year or two you stupid beaner that's the issue. u think it's 1952 and people get sent to "hospitals for the criminally insane" for life and nurse ratchet drugs them all
Are we sure Patrick didn't do it?
>>542016617They're normal shorts. Stop being fat and insecure.
>>542013171Psychosis is supposed to be something like schizophrenia making you hear voices to kill someone, or a bad trip where you see Werewolves instead of in reallity it's your mother. Some people are truly sick, have freak mental impairments which they might percieve to be religious prophecies telling them what to do, bad episodes that turn violent. Clancy had depression, which probably resulted in some sort of mania or negative thoughts. But that doesn't excuse killing your kids especially if you were in control, as in you weren't blacked out or experiencing a false reality. She likely began feeling for the first time the type of intense anxieties and depressive thoughts most anons on this board feel since they hit puberty. If you ever felt extreme sense of negative thoughts after puberty it's likely because your mind and body was adjusting to testosterone for the first time. I notice that older men who take testosterone uptake begin feeling the way they did when they were teenagers, angsty, creative, invasive thoughts. Its something that increases in women during pregnancy, and if they don't release enough oxytocin after child birth they are basically stuck being angsty male teenagers where their whole world has flipped upside down.Again, this doesn't excuse what she did, I don't think it was psychosis. More like she wasn't used to reality and took it out on her kids.
>>542013171Women are crazy by default because the feminine is schizophrenic. Femininity=>hypo-agency >external locus of control>groupthink>feels over reals>emotion over logic>unable to systematize, to make sense of the world through a coherent, consistent, orderly framework >lack of stable identity>cannot abstract something to evaluate it based on it's own meritThe feminine in essence is that which is acted upon, passive, moldable, impermanent, illusory. Women with other women, because they have no anchor in something orderly and stable, can form a run away feedback loop of insanity which is what happened in this case. They are susceptible to social contagions and propaganda, and without some kind of link to reality they fall victim to their own schizophrenic minds. Men don't get this as much because men don't see the world as something that's acting upon them, as if the world has agency. From the masculine perspective the locus of control is internal, they act upon the world, they're the one with agency. They ground themselves in what's real, in orderly frameworks of understanding. Someone who's very logical and self accountable isn't going to be as susceptible to psychosis.
>>542017714This isn't to say she has psychosis though, women being crazy is just the default and the only way to deal with crazy is a slap from reality. You cannot set the precedent that women are not held accountable for their actions, they need some kind of confrontation with reality instead of constant enabling.
>>542015383Yeah this happened with my wife. I never felt that she would harm the baby though. I just thought that she had gone completely insane. Luckily, I was in a position where I could take her to a very quiet, calm place where her family has a holiday home. Her auntie came and stayed with us and she was a trained midwife so that was a big help. It did take a long time for her to calm down and fortunately we were able to do it without intense medications. I think the key is that any mum should have regular support from trusted family members.
>>542013171Its total bs. The women are just driven batshit because they are finally held accountable for once in their lives and are given a huge responsibility they can't just randomly quit when they become tired of it.
>>542016902Is this a.i. or meth?
>>542013171It`s real, worse for women who care and overall even worse for "modern" women
>>542013171when the question becomes "what caused you to murder" and not "did you murder", it doesn't fucking matter. she murdered her children. she admitted to murdering her children. she goes to jail. in a just society she would be killed immediately, in the same manner of her victims.
>>542013878>who think it deserves treatment.the treatment is just a charade like everything else about the psychiatric industry. she'll take some meds and do therapy in an asylum for like 4 years, and since she's not actually crazy, she will behave correctly nad be releasedpsychiatry and psychology are not scientific in the slightest
>>542017333He said he didn't. That's good enough for meI'm a man btw
>>542014502>“Conditions for Further Study”AKA not recognized and being evaluated. Cope harder
>>542013360This - women are full of shit.
>>542018880By your logic gravity and god don't exist.
>>542014502>included in Section 3 of the DSMYou know the DSM isn't based on science and was just a committee of people voting on how to collect symptoms into bunches so they could then attach a single label to them and prescribe SSRIs, right?
>>542013171It doesn't exist. It's just bitches being bitches.
>>542013171>>542013878>How real is post partum psychosis?Real as the Stem Cell Industry that by itself would pay for birth services; downstream of CLAMPING and preventing STEM CELL EXCHANGE (among other things literally lengthening telomeres). Non-multigenerational households/neighborhoods for babysitting coverage doesn't help either.
>>542013171I have not followed this case, because I simply don’t care anymore.But does her ”condition” somehow change the fact and reality that she killed her kids? Like if I’m an alcoholic and kill a family while driving drunk, does that make me innocent?
>>542013171It's as real as roid rage. Except postpartum psychosis allows you a get out of jail free pass.
>>542013171Its a white woman desiese, as in a fake desiese invented by white simps to excuse the shitty and evil behaviour of white women, like everything western society is based on.Postpartum, SIDS, bipolar, Munchausen, etc are all white woman desieses.
>>542020705If there's even a slight possibility that she wasn't in her right mind at the time, the state has to put her in the nuthouse instead of prison, with annual reviews to see if she's sane enough to release
>>542020705It means that you are a special little butterfly and you need help, not be punished.
>>542022078What part of "if she was a man, he would be dead already" do you not comprehend? She doesn't need to be put anywhere, except the electric chair. That would be true justice.
>>542013878>>542013171It's not a real diagnosis.
>>542014502"Further study" doesn't make it real.
>>542013171That one juror saved women everywhere. From themselves largely this time. The usual love precedent. If she wants found to be not in control of her actions to the point of triple homicide due to hormones then any human during and after pregnancy automatically becomes a liability and can be reasonably removed from sensitive tasks due to safety. Posted this on plebbit and the cucks went feral
>>542014502DSM-5-TR: There's no discrete "postpartum psychosis" diagnosis. Instead, clinicians use the "with peripartum onset" specifier applied to mood episodes beginning in pregnancy or within 4 weeks postpartum, attaching it to another diagnosis like bipolar disorder, major depressive disorder with psychotic features, or brief psychotic disorder.ICD: ICD-10 has a residual code (F53) for puerperal mental disorders "not elsewhere classified," which can capture severe cases including psychosis, but it functions more as a catch-all than a well-validated specific entity. Postpartum psychosis is not formally recognized in the DSM-5 or the ICD as its own coded disease category.>t. neuroscience PhD
>>542024386>Postpartum psychosis is not formally recognized in the DSM-5 or the ICD as its own coded disease category.Yes, but it's well attested-to in the medical literature that postpartum depression can, in rare cases, develop into a kind of waxing/waning psychosis which may linger for significant lengths of time. This is what people mean when they say "postpartum psychosis" -- this unincluded but well-established pattern of psychoses which occur infrequently in women vulnerable to postpartum depression. That it isn't now included in the DSM as a separate condition does not mean the condition doesn't exist. In fact, it already is functionally diagnosed, just under different rubrics.The (stupid) narrative going around ITT is that because it's not in the DSM, there is no combination of symptoms that occur which we call postpartum psychosis -- that therefore anyone claiming it's a real thing is lying or wrong. This is stupid because, again, the occurrence is well-documented in the medical literature. There are reams and reams of papers studying it. That it isn't in the DSM is not a reflection on whether or not this cluster of symptoms occur postpartum because they undeniably do. The DSM question is rather a categorization problem. It's like you dig up a fossil and then try to figure out its phylogeny. That you don't know where to place it yet does not imply that the very real fossil you just dug up doesn't exist. You just don't know where to put it yet.
>>542013171My mother bore 3children. None of them got killed by her.Post partum psychosis doesn't exist.
>>542025052I climbed some stairs yesterday and didn't get a heart attack. Therefore, heart attacks don't exist.
I don't know why post partim psychosis would be so surprising, women were under a cocktail of hormones to feel good, at the center of attention of everyone and suddenly left with a disfigured body and only hormone to be obsessed with their child. Considering a lot of you consider them superficial, it looks like a good combination to mind break a woman.
>>542013171>how real is post partum psychosis?100% fake, she was tired of taking care of other and wanted to be free. Getting papalized after the fake suicide attempt wasn't part of her plan (second story window are we serious?)
>>542015051Indian coded post
>>542024930PPS is not an established condition in academia or practice and should thus not be used as a mitigating factor or absolver in criminal hearings or proceedings.The defense/prosecution can describe as many symptoms as they want and point to a transient psychosis that occurred peripartum, in periphrasis, but concocting a condition to serve as a vehicle for defence/sentencing is not something many rational and morally congruent people would subscribe to.
>>542014417>picmy toddler was being noisy the other day and my wife was gently pleading with him to quiet down as she fed our infant he didn't stop until I hollered, from bed, "hey, hush!" and he stopped lol
>>542015111she looks jewish
>>542013171Nothing at all excuses systematic murder then trying to destroy evidence
>>542014492It's real but there's definitely cases where incompetence is ruled SIDS. Fun fact did you know a risk factor is being non-white? I'm surprised you turbo racists haven't memed that yet.
>>542013171post partum is real for like 6-8 month of your first kid if you are a bad person who didn't plan their life. you don't slaughter a 5 year old because of it.
>>542026915>and killed the oldest boy (9) first.Nah he was only 3. But he still would have been the hardest one (she complained that he was the most difficult person she'd ever known) so that's indeed why she killed him first
>>542013171Bruh this bitch killed her kids and she's getting no punishment
>>542013171Having gone through psychoses several times myself I'm not really buying the "post partum psychosis" angle. And I'm not buying the drug induced psychosis angle either. The 7 proscribed medications themselves, either help or are ineffective at treating schizophrenia. They were all detected in her toxicology report with relatively low concentration (according to wiki). Even interacting with each other, there is little to no chance of a sudden violent psychosis like this breaking out with no other signs (I am not a doctor). But let's say she was in psychosis... a psychosis, in my limited experience, creates hallucinations of peoples thoughts, intentions, actions and such. It doesn't force you to act against your will. She still would have made the decision to murder.Nonetheless lets examine her depression and following actions. Seems like she was in a very serious depressive spiral that led her to commit to suicide. If we compare her to any other familial murder-suicide perpetrator, a motive appears: due to her immense cowardice, arrogance and perverted sense of ownership over her children, she could not let them live after she dies.According to Wiki, she made sure the husband was out, and killed the oldest boy (9) first. She knew the husband would stop her, otherwise I don't doubt she would kill him too. She also knew the oldest boy could stop her from killing the other two children. These two actions show her making rational decisions in furtherance of the murders, proving to me that she was not in any psychosis and that the murders were pre-meditated, motivation being that she can't let them live on once she's gone.
>>542013171It is extremely and very irrelevant whether it is real or not. Either way, she belongs in jail forever.>>542013878She can be treated in jail where she belongs until the end of days. In fact, she should voluntarily put her through the sentence. Her 3 children are dead by her own hands. She should be begging to suffer.
>>542025122> female logic
>>542013878You're acting like no one tried to treat her. Everyone tried very hard but she essentially didn't want to be treated.
>>542013171If she really went insane, why is she sitting in the courtroom instead of in a padded cell wearing a strait jacket?If you're going to argue insanity, shouldn't you treat her as if she were murderously psychotic?
>>542013220thanks for your input, boomer
>>542013171>post partum psychosisIt's not, it's a way to protect white women. Same with every thing the west as ever done.
>>542017938>i think the key is that any mum should have regular support from trusted family membersIt's been that way for most of human history, hasn't it. Families would be closer, grandparents would help out with the new children.The modern world is an aberration in almost every sense. The bubble society has operated in is completely unnatural and does not align with our instincts.
>>542028210You ask too many questions. She gets life without any option of a parole. Being proven insane and proving she did it unconciously probably lays ground for freedom at some point in the future under the current system.Either way, this whore has a higher murder IQ under "psychosis" and devised a plan better than I would as sober.Considering the media attention this case received, an even harsher sentence should be put through so an example would be made. Along with profiling every man and woman who has made excuses for murdering three children. Their identities should be put on the internet.Men can be pedophiles but I've never seen a man defend Epstein. Men only defend other violent men like Hitler sometimes because there was a greater purpose behind it. Fuck the jews for exporting their degeneracy through the US.
>>542013461I genuinely don't understand why law is this dysfunctional.
>>542013171>How real is post partum psychosis? It's real, but it's two separate thing:> 1) Woman being for the first time ignored (in favor of the toddler/kids) when she waltz in a roomThey now get male-tier level of attention, which most of them simply can't handle (see FtM troons)> 2) Woman having for the first time a responsibility she can't just ignore and let some male solve for her in the backgroundIt's the first time they have to actually *do* something and do it *well*, which most of them simply can't handle (see how popular the jewish daycare is with them)So it's real is the sense that cramming 20-30 years worth of "time to behave like an actual adult" into an overnight change won't be handled with a lot of mental gracefulness.The problem, however, is entirely coming from modern women being sheltered and cajoled to dysfunctional levels, while child-raising simply isn't compatible with maintaining that level of sheltering and cajoling.
>>542028721I don't really see more than a handful of women supporting this whore here.Is it really you guys being annoyed at some select few bitches or is the situation different.
>>542028210She only went insane briefly, she's fine now
>>542020375The adults are talking, retard.
The question is whether or not she was having a psychotic episode at the time.The lack of prior and further episodes is far too suspect for me to believe she isn't guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.She could have been mentally impaired, I don't dispute that, but to the point of being incapable of controlling her actions? To be incapable of preventing herself from planning and murdering her three children?She was a labor and delivery nurse by career too, she of all people would be more educated than the average layman on postpartum conditions.The testimony from Dr. Kirk Heilbrun that, after three days of scrutiny he concluded she was not only lucid during the murders and knew the illegality of her actions, she was not suffering from psychosis and was not suffering from hallucinations like she had claimed.She had requested Zoloft from her attending and when the doctor wouldn't prescribe it to her she went to a different doctor at the ER for a new prescription. The fact she checked herself out of the mental institution after 3 days and her lying by omission of what medications she's already been prescribed to different doctors indicates doctor shopping.This is all simply far too suspect of foul play. Impaired? Maybe. Out of control? Absolutely not.
If you've never heard of it before, it isn't real.
>>542014502All psychology is fake and guy.>uhhh a woman felt funny after giving birth>WE MUST DOCUMENT THIS99% of "medicine" is all so fake and gay.
>>542013171She looks like a witch and the coverage feels like it's being used for a psyop.
>>542031670THE QUESTION IS WHETHER SHE KILLED THOSE KIDSSHE DIDTHEREFORE MURDEREVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST WOMEN LOOKING FOR EXCUSES BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS
>>542031670>The question is whether or not she was having a psychotic episode at the time.Basically this, assuming we play along with the psychosis angle. The defense expects us to believe that this woman was incapable of controlling herself for a period of 8 months with a condition that (allegedly) made her lose touch with reality at times. She knew she had a problem. She made inadequate decisions when handling them problem. She made the decision to kill the kids. In my opinion, it would be a disservice to other people struggling with mental health to go easy on this woman. Barring extreme outliers, (You) are responsible for your actions, including the proper accommodation for your mental health condition.
>>542013171It's a real thing but she knew what she was doing. Since she botched the suicide she opted to play the insanity card
As real as fibromyalgia or however it's spelled
Psych literature suggests it is survival trait, where in Stone Age times when resources were scarce, each time a women gave birth she had to decide whether she could divert resources from her and her other children. For modern women, they are coddled and weak, so they assess their husbands wealth, family support etc. my wife went through it but she was fragile. She was just acted a space cadet for the year. She had no job, no family near by, The theory doesn’t explain while you snuff the older ones. And this was a wealthy family and she was educated with a good job. So in the end I the answer is more she wanted out, amd thought her kids wouldn’t survive without her so took them out with her. BTW the ex husband is a total cuckold. He stood up for her days later saying how great mum she was. A case here where a father drove himself and kids in a lake thr mother said he was a good dad prior and got pillared.
>>542014322She was on anti psychotics. Any schizo can tell you relying on a doctor regularly and telling them the full extent of what you are thinking gets you locked away in a rubber room.She was probably gangstalked and persecuted.
>>542013171Post partum occurs when an evil woman gives birth to a child and starts fantasizing about murdering it
>>542013171It is real, but how much it affects a person's ability to reason about their actions is very much overblown especially in cases as extreme as this.
The fact mothers dont regularly kill their children post birth means she was at fault. And PPP is a thing that happens after the first birth, not months and years after you already had multiple kids
>>542036098Now that I think about it, maybe it's kind of down to luck too. And there would be cases where a person just happens to not have anything in their cognitive attention that would take them even a little bit out of it in the moment.
>another 1pbtid spambot about this whoreFunny
Theoretically we can invent all kinds of psychoses for every murderer. >he wen't trough a ghetto psychosis
>>542013171Pyschosis is a state of mental disorder that causes a person to interpret the world in a false way. It causes you to see and hear and feel things that aren't actually real, and so a person with psychosis may end up acting on those delusional stimuli. This could be something like, hearing a person talking on television and your fucked up psychosis brain interprets it as a message from angels on how the president personally wants to kill you. Or a feeling of itchy skin that your psychosis brain interprets as, a colony of living roaches that are crawling around under your skin that you can't see. It's a state of mental disorder that takes a long time to build up to and also a long time to come out of. Like years or months of just mentally getting worse and worse and the delusions are getting more real and more real. Also it's not something that you can snap out of easily. You couldn't for example, maintain a relationship with someone and care for your children while descending deeper into psychosis day by day without having progressively worse and worse episodes, where the police get called out etc. before someone with true psychosis commits an act of mass murder there would be an easily notable series of successive events. You also wouldn't be able to fake a moment of lucidity in the middle of a murder spree, coming out of a delusional mentally unhinged state, to talk casually on the phone with someone before snapping back into it, like flipping a light switch. You would also not end your psychosis once the murder is done, and would actually have to come out of it slowly over the course of months and years. The fact that Lindsay Clancy is claiming she could suddenly snap into psychosis for an hour and then snap out of it makes no fucking sense. Her husband perceived her in a fit enough state to watch the children while he left the home.Her pastor was able to meet her and talk with her for long hours a few days after. It makes no sense.
>>542014417this is great. i wish more men had strong bonds with their children, especially in this day and age the father absolutely needs to be the moderating force against female insanity and protect the kids.
>>542035615>gets you locked away in a rubber room.and if she had thoughts of hurting the kids she should have been. you're talking about it as if its a legitimate thing for her to have feared when the alternative that actually happened is far worse. andrea yates tried to fight the voice and was honest with her doctors. this witch isn;t
>>542027922> Seems like she was in a very serious depressive spiral that led her to commit to suicide. If we compare her to any other familial murder-suicide perpetrator, a motive appears: due to her immense cowardice, arrogance and perverted sense of ownership over her children, she could not let them live after she dies.This is correct.
>>542013171I have post coital depression. Sorry if was great baby but I’m not going to call you. Good luck take care thanks for the free pussy
>>542015997>she was actually diagnosed with postpartum psychosis and bipolar after the murdersshe was diagnosed with “i was totally insane-itis” just at the right moment!and do not conflate natural sciences with psychology.Cancer can be actually proven with facts, give 10 real doctors the evidence for cancer and they will all come to the same conclusion. psychology is a soft science masquerading as a natural one, it has many biases.The fact that multiple psychologists can disagree on whether she had it or not, despite the fact that they are all given the same exact data, is proof of psychology’s fallibility and tendency towards biased interpretation by its practitioners, influenced by the culture and politics of the individual.We cannot use such a flimsy “science” as a scientific reason or excuse for killing 3 children.
>>542013171It doesn’t matter whether depression or psychosis is real or not. The law and defense argument they made allows for her innocence. They need to follow that to get the matter over.Right now I think they should drop everything, because she’s in a wheelchair. Its cruel to make the trial again or to lock up someone that can’t make it out of their house by themself.Just the possibility that the drug combinations or her home situation might not be acceptable could cause her to go insane temporarily might be enough for the law.There is not really much to debate about the case and the attention it received isn’t deserved. I don’t care if she was really “insane” or not.Just the possibility that she was totally incapable of reasoning gets her off the hook here. The fact she tried to kill herself lends something to the story.
>>542013171We should also hang lunatics.
don't care. guilty. stone the bitch
>>542025977>Indianhow the fuck is my post "indian". i am a white, ancient lineage
>>542037752shut up bot memeflaggot>The fact she tried to kill herself lends something to the story.interesting how when it came to killing her kids she was locked in like a professional strangler terminator. but when it came time to kill herself she waffled, half assed it.
>>542014211She still can produces a white child, tho
Are we all going to ignore that she looks like a witch? Turn her hair gray and put a wart on her nose and the bitch looks like she lives in a hut in the woods.
It doesn’t explain it away, but she was hit by a few things. Western Women get so much attention when they are pregnant. That ends and focus goes to the kid(s). Add the hormones coming down after pregnancy would leave her feeling empty. Three kids that age is actual work if the husband is off with another woman and not helping. Strangling is a 2-3 minute death process, which is pretty awful. It is not an impulsive thing. If she cut her wrists, cut her neck and jumped 2 stories; it sounds like she didn’t want to be here.
>>542013878Yeah except postpartum psychosis peaks weeks after birth, not three years.
>>542014417>wentGod I wish people would stop saying "went" and "go" for said.
>>542039594>Strangling is a 2-3 minute death process, which is pretty awfulThat's one of the details that is the most disgusting. This is not a person who should be allowed back into society. Ever.
>>542013171Post partum psychosis is just women realizing they are responsible for something for the first time in their lives
>>542014737>vaccines >pillows>secret collection of dnaParanoia is a form of psychosis, anon. Ever thought about getting help?
Male holdout WHITE MALE HOLDOUT
>>542040635I'm as much a chud as everyone here but let's face it : this woman had severe neurotoxic reactions to a whole host of SSRIs that worsened her psyche to the point of having hallucinations, suicidal ideation and murder voices (look at the court papers). She most likely had a genetic predisposition for bipolar disorders and post-partum with its brutal hormonal change is known in the scientific literature to make this kind of pre-existing mental condition manifest. Her husband was aware of her intrusive toughts and she repeatedly informed the psychiatrists of her worsening condition med after med. To me it's a massive fuck up on the psychatrists side more than anything, and it most likely led to her losing any bit of agency.If she was planning all of this shit, why did she attempt to commit suicide, only to get paralyzed for life and in a wheelchair ? The father himself testified that she was an entirely different person during that time period.
>>542013171Is she isnt insane she should get the chair because its monstrous act Is she is insane she should get the chair because of eugenics Its that simple
>>542040887I guarantee I’m more mentally ill than her and I’ve never killed even one baby
>>542040887She testified that "the voices" went away after she killed the kids which is not how it works.
>>542013878My great grandma was able to raise 5 kids after my grandfather died in war, modern woman with a nanny and stay at home husband can't handle not killing the children in a temper tantrum for not being a communal cumrag anymorebut luckily there are always (((experts))) to defend women and let us know in what concrete ways are they victims, actually
>>542013171Only temporary insanity experienced by men who have been wronged by cunts is real.
>>542013171It's so real that this is the first time we're hearing about despite millions of women giving birth every year and not murdering their children
>>542041204Don’t worry.Feminism is already at work changing the diagnostic criteria for psychosis in women.
>>542036614Your honour, my ni- defendant had a ghetto psychosis moment, he is innocent.
>>542013711This. ask me how I know. Guys, look very carefully and your gf's family mental history. Ask if any Aunts or Uncles have been to looney bins. Save yourself a tons of trouble. Ditch her.
>>542013360Correct.Survival became trivial after industrialization, there are now psychopaths everywhere controlling drugged-up cattle, they've formed a separatist society which outmaneuvers the intelligent via aggression, and now they try to excuse in-group behaviors (insensible violence) why criminalizing outgroup behaviors (free speech, criticism; everything is manufactured into criminality)everyone's a nigger and basically decent people everywhere need to start removing subhumans from this plane
>>542041291It doesn't change the fact that whether or not she's mentally ill, that's life without parole. She deserves no empathy from society or a possibility of rehab, much less go out free again. Along with that, three children are dead. It is worrying that someone is willing to barter their lives because she might have had a psychotic episode. That episode claimed lives of her three children.It is not empathy that the media promotes, it is evil. Of course, most people are also not wise, they don't need help from anybody to reach the wrong conclusions. Most people are stupid even in the most "white" places on the globe.I've seen some Serbian comments and opinions, almost nobody is on her side, only a handful of idiots. That's comforting.
>>542014027good to see she's still making videos, I used to follow her back when MRAs were a thing
>>542013171It's real, also going crazy from mind altering drugs is real.I think she knew what she did was wrong,while she was doing it. According to the law you are guilty then.But she probably did it becauseshe was overwhelmed by negative emotions frommental illness and mind altering drugs.
>>542013171>psychosisWhat about psychosis from not being able to have sex?
>>542013171>How real is post partum psychosis?50% real. Post-partum Psychosis is not recognized as an official diagnosis within the DSM-5 Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. The reason why it's "half" real is because Psychosis exist and is recognized. And we know that post-partum hormonal fluctuations exist, so you just pair the two phenomena and you have "PPP" post partum psychosis, a woman with psychosis who is also post partum. It does not create a new "women only" disorder. It's literally just a hormonal wreck experiencing post birth woes who happens to get psychosis at the exact same time. That is why PPP is a rare occurrence, only happening in 1 in 1,000 mothers. >What explanatory power does it have over the murder of three of ones own children?Very little. Contrary to pop-culture belief, of the 1 in 1,000 mothers, the ones who get Psychosis at Post Partum, only 1% ~ 4% of those mothers go on to commit infanticide. And those extremely rare cases often always include co-current phenomena that mix things up, ranging from personality disorders to substance abuse to perhaps even multiple disorders working at once. Ultimately, none of them take away the individuals power of will. Those in psychosis do not experience audible hallucinations that have the power to compel or possess them into murder. That is not how psychosis works. Psychosis does not suddenly trigger, like in Lindsay's case, Psychosis and the Psychotic breaks aren't abrupt, it's a slow blurry descent, it "bleeds" into your perceived reality over time. Her presentation of so called psychosis does not match previous Psychological observation
>>542013171Notice the political dialectic you are being handed - child sacrifice (jewish) vs child sacrifice (female) is now the frame of political discourse. You can vote for the party of murdering children for women’s liberation or murdering children for Israel. America is an irredeemable, openly satanic hellscape.
>>542044500>Notice the political dialectic you are being handed - child sacrifice (jewish) vs child sacrifice (female) is now the frame of political discourse. You can vote for the party of murdering children for women’s liberation or murdering children for Israel. America is an irredeemable, openly satanic hellscape.Check and high IQ post.
>>542013943You're retarded
>>542044280>Ultimately, none of them take away the individuals power of will. Those in psychosis do not experience audible hallucinations that have the power to compel or possess them into murder. That is not how psychosis works. Psychosis does not suddenly trigger, like in Lindsay's case, Psychosis and the Psychotic breaks aren't abrupt, it's a slow blurry descent, it "bleeds" into your perceived reality over time.>Her presentation of so called psychosis does not match previous Psychological observationit's obviously the pop culture trope of suddenly hearing voices and/or being possessed. She's clearly not a smart or clever woman. It's a very infantile and naive attempt to shift the blame completely away from ones person, the equivalent of the childish "it wasn't me" - "the voices made me do it". It's hollywood nonsense. Now a top FBI psychologist telling the court suddenly hearing voices out of the blue and going zombie killer mode isn't a thing should have been the end of it but alas this vile dumb bitch almost got her preferred stay in the looney bin thanks to other vile and dumb bitches.
>>542043145So if I drink some whiskey and go operate a motor vehicle and plow through a couple families at a crosswalk would I be not guilty because my good judgement was compromised by alcohol? I don't understand the mind altering drugs argument. It doesn't make you innocent.
>>542013171It's about as real as 'SIDS' or 'fibromyalgia'
>>542045282I do not think seat of a person's will can be lost without that person allowing it to be. You could not have taken alcohol, and she could not have lost her seat of will to whatever was affecting her mind.
>>542013341Thats weird because her facial structure looks classically christian (ugly and evil)
>>542045444By the way every single person hears voices and feels some strong urges. Or more like, hears at least one voice which comes from the animal mind. The one telling you to partake in instant gratification for example.
>>542045318/thread
>>542045554Right. I feel she is definitely mental considering her actions, but she still belongs in jail. This case would otherwise be a bad example for those struggling mentally, "oh I can kill those I want, get tons of money in donations, and not be jailed for it as long as I structure it in such a way that suggests I'm not sane?"
