>First of all, the “corporate state” is not a meme; it is a massive corporate system that actually existed in history.>In history, the “Dutch East India Company” was a real corporate state.This company had its own army, could establish colonies, collect taxes, and enact laws.It once colonized Taiwan and Southeast Asia.By 1669, the company had become the wealthiest in the world, with a fleet of 150 merchant ships, 40 warships, 50,000 employees, and a private army of 10,000 men, and a return on investment of 40 percent.
Let’s go back to 2026.>The Trump government is planning to revive the “corporate state.”First, Apple, Google, Microsoft, Blackstone, and Tesla have become terrifying corporate giants, with assets worth tens of trillions of U.S. dollars.Elon Musk has become the world’s richest person, with a net worth of approximately $892 billion. This exceeds the combined GDP of dozens of small countries.Elon’s SpaceX and Starlink have already been integrated into the U.S. military’s assets, and even drones are now using Starlink.Meanwhile, the U.S. government’s stablecoin bill has officially begun granting private companies the right to issue currency. The sole purpose is to enable large corporations to purchase U.S. Treasury bonds.Allowing private companies to issue stablecoins is essentially allowing them to launch their own private currencies. It also permits companies like Google and Microsoft to offer lending and investment services.Now, large corporations can essentially operate as banks.This is no different from drug addiction; it is only a matter of time before the U.S. government sells off even more of the nation’s power to corporations.
If the U.S. government allows Elon Musk to form a mercenary group, a “corporate state” will be born.Elon could manufacture his own tanks, drones, and rockets.He could also buy the USS Lincoln aircraft carrier and turn it into his private asset.As for rockets, all it would take is swapping out the warhead to turn them into missiles.A similar mercenary group already exists—it’s called the “Wagner Group.”It has an army, tanks, and fighter jets, yet it is privately owned.Ultimately, after staging a rebellion in Russia in 2023, it was integrated into the national military by Putin.
>>542038014Dutch East Indian company at least operated outside of Netherlands, ie you still had kings and local governments, what capitalism did to the west is hundred times worse than anything before in history.
>>542038014and the biggest redpill? the dutch east india company was CONTROLLED BY JEWS!!!!!
Once the U.S. government, facing a fiscal collapse, outsources the operation of government functions to private companies, the “corporate state” will officially come into being.For example, suppose the New York City government completely hands over management of the city police force to Apple, with Apple paying the salaries.In that case, New York police officers would no longer be civil servants but corporate employees.Apple’s CEO would be their boss.This would give rise to massive abuse of power.From then on, Apple could do whatever it wanted.Because the police would have become the Apple CEO’s private army.
>>542038014That's the opposite of what corporatism is retard. Corporatism is about subduing all corporate power to the state, not the other way around.
>>542038014Yes, major world leaders and top tech niggers are building the ten economic kingdoms of The Club of Rome.
>>542038014Good
>>542038014The only country that can create a successful corpos is on the pic.
>>542038251>allowsElon Musk could make a mercenary group right now if he wanted to. He would probably fail horribly.Imagining Wagner as something easy to do is a large mistake. Most of the impressive PMC's are managed by very intelligent people with relevant experience in military matters.The 'paramilitary option' is largely a cope for people who imagine this will save whatever state they belong to from the immense engine of ruin that it has created. The paramilitary option, on the other hand, is fine for people who want to escape and have a little military life that's more 'free' than just being a part of whatever state's military for life.
>>542038014If they are building such - it won't last long.There's an inbuilt self destruction mechanism that cannot be bypassed.>It starts out fantasticwhen actually talented visionaire(s) builds it up. Clear goals, strategies and tactics. Ok, they need to start hiring - what do they ALWAYS DO?>hire dumber than themselves are>in order to avoid competition. The natural Alpha pecking order and they want to choose lesser men to prevent the natural Alpha challenge.Ok, fast forward this practice for a decade, or so, when each hired in all levels of the corporation is always dumber than the people who did the hiring. Then, eventually the dumber will get promoted, keep this going on, and you have a corporation run by total, complete, morons. >end of corporationExcept!When the idiots in gubbament rush to rescue and starts pouring tax monies to the shithole to keep it up, since it's too big to fail and every politician and bureaucrat are neck deep in gravy train.. >What nasty, vicious, horse shit of a systemDemocracy, in the ancient times, was an idea, an attempt, to bypass THIS bullshit.If democracy would be ALLOWED to work, as it should - based on merit, where people with MERIT gets into election and from these the best is chosen for a LIMITED term and who is then expected to return to his previous profession..IT WOULD WORK.Boomers just can't let go. They want to eat their cake and take it to their graves, too!
>>542039399Well, the Great Depression 2.0 is about to hit.The bankrupt U.S. government will sell the country to private companies.
>>542039523>littleIs important here because it will probably be a little life. If you had some dynamic blood of Gods and Conquerers in America right now, it wouldn't be as it is.
>>542039357Its the same thing
>>542039357Damn, I made a mistake.
>>542038014>The Trump government is creating a corporate state>the democrat party is owned and operated by BlackRock, Vanguard, StateStreet, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Citigroup, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Berkshire Hathaway, Apple, Meta, Alphabet, Amazon, Microsoft, Eli Lilly, Johnson & Johnson, Phizer, AbbVie, Merck, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, Universal, Paramount, Warner Bros, Disney, MGM, Universal, Lionsgate, Columbia, Netflix, and Hulu, to name just a few>b-b-but what about Trump, you guysTDS
>>542038014>>542038045>>542038251>>542038772so what's china gonna do about it?
>>542039357... you have it precisely backwards
>>542040292No, the right word for OP's definition would be corporatocracy.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism
>>542040254>so what's china gonna do about it?Honestly?Ask Elon to check with the U.S. government to see how much Alaska costs.
>>542038014This sounds pretty cool. What's the stock ticker of this imaginary company that's going to give me 40% returns.
>>542039583Those companies only stay afloat with money they take from governments though.
>>542040467MPLACCEGId say AMD and NVDA but you may have missed the boat on that. I bought amd under 90 and wowee I made some stacks with that
>>542040467>What's the stock ticker of this imaginary companyDid you know?It was the Dutch East India Company that invented stocks.
>>542038772>Apple could do whatever it wanted.>Because the police would have become the Apple CEO’s private army.Not necessarily. There are still laws, civil liability, and government mandate. It isn't impossible for the state to yank the responsibility back. The most difficult hurdle if the people didn't like it and started protesting it is lobbyists. But, if it becomes a big enough issue you end up with politicians running on that issue. I'd argue that a corporate owned police force is in an even more precarious position than a police force in a blue state with niggers seeking to tie their hands and cut their funding. They're also a private entity so a person can file a lawsuit against the corporation instead of the city, meaning the financial burden would be on them if the government doesn't extend their budget to cover lawsuits.Furthermore, fees and penalties charged by the court are paid to the court and the state is responsible for funding the justice system. Adding a private entity as the police just complicates things since they're the ones issuing citations and making arrests that result in the obligation. The only reason a city might even do this might be so the corporation is left carrying the bag for lawsuits stemming from police misconduct which are a plague on big city's budget. Especially, if you have a pushover city attorney that just pays out all the claims instead of forcing the plaintoff to go to court in instances where misconduct is difficult to prove.
>>542040605>Those companies only stay afloat with money they take from governments though.See, this is what’s terrifying about a “company” state.When you are the government yourself, you can directly enslave your people and force them to pay exorbitant taxes.So why do these “companies” even need a government?They are the government themselves.
>>542038014>is creatingit already exist why do you think USA is 1 of 3 countries that taxes its own people working abroad? sounds like corporate serfdom (albeit China does it too)Can't directly spy on own people? Just print some money and pay private company to scrape data off its own population. Corporate bypass of constitution.
>>542040627Which one of those do you believe is going to return 40% this year and why do you think that will happen?>>542040697>It was the Dutch East India Company that invented stocks.That's nice, but I'm asking you about this new one you're trying to convince us is happening that's returning 40%.
>>542041021>return 40% this yearWho said anything about a year? Why are you moving goalposts?
>>542040822You have a point, but that’s exactly why “corporate lobby groups” exist.When you can simply buy off local governments with money, politicians themselves become your employees.Extreme corruption and money-for-favors deals can lead to any kind of absurd situation.When the Soviet Union’s economy collapsed, some people even tried to sell nuclear weapons.There may come a time when something like that happens in the United States as well.
>>542041181?The CIA has already done this.
>>542040934>So why do these “companies” even need a government?This is the end goal of capitalism, replacing the nation state with corporate state, essentially nothing more than an ecconomic zone run by transnational banks and corporations in plain sight.
>>542041316>The CIA has already done this.I believe the CIA has indeed done this—they sold nuclear weapons to Israel.But at least the U.S. government still exists, and it was the Israeli government that received the nuclear weapons, not a single individual.However, if you sell nuclear weapons to a company, it’s a completely different story.Nuclear weapons become the CEO’s personal weapons.Elon Musk could start a corporate war just because he’s in a bad mood and reduce the whole of London to rubble.And because he has nuclear weapons, no one in the world could stop him from doing so.https://x.com/cb_doge/status/2096223666463776983
>>542041707Oh I see what you're getting at.The key objection I have to your understanding is >what is money?Because in a corporate situation as you describe, how does Mr. Musk keep his soldiers from couping him? Give them money? What if they want more? And what about the things that money can't buy...Etc.You generally need more than money to hold a strong army for even a medium term of time. Money does not buy loyalty. Or, it buys it until it can no longer afford it, or something more valuable supersedes it.The American army, for example, exists because (as laughable as it is) Americans generally believe most of the state propaganda about themselves. Even Americans here generally believe almost all of this. They have maybe one or two objections. Mercenaries are much harder to manage.
>>542041181Yeah, it would have to be wholly corrupt to even exist.>City grants contracts to private company to enforce the law>in same legislation the private company can't be sued by citizens for police misconduct and must go through the city>The private law enforcement also gets to collect on citations and punitively expensive incarceration. $3.00 for a bag of Ramen, $10.00 for a five minute phone call. Added fees on any interaction with law enforcement. The company is provided autonomy in how their fees are set or just have some friends in city government that will rubber stamp any legislation they conceive.>Guaranteed return on investment for shareholders, record profits.>If crime rate goes down the company lobbies for higher fees or starts to enforce lesser crimes current police forces only ever use as a pretextual reason to investigate people that just don't look right.>Company also clandestinely funds groups known to cause civil unrest so they can bleed protestors that turn into rioters.>Eventually crime does become big business (something the career felon is always claiming, but everyone knows he's locked up because he's a career felon, not so the state can make money off of him).If it's run the same way that public utilities are run with politicians in their pockets drafting legislation to make them more richer while shielding them from financial burdens for their fuckups it would be that nightmare scenario. If not, it doesn't even make sense to try to do it.
tldrwill we get cool cyberpunk shit now?
>>542041873>>what is money?Money is what allows you to buy food and troops.You see, no matter how powerful your army is, soldiers still need to eat. If you don’t feed your soldiers properly, you cannot secure their loyalty.The mutiny aboard the USS Lincoln occurred precisely because the sailors were undernourished, unable to bathe, and forced to use filthy toilets.This is why Bill Gates has become one of the largest landowners in the United States.Food brings power, and the military defends that power.
>>542042001>will we get cool cyberpunk shit now?Nah~The real world is like cyberpunk,it keeps all the bad stuff but strips away all the cool elements.
>>542041912And I haven’t even mentioned wars abroad yet.Once the U.S. government starts outsourcing wars to private companies, it will be a disaster.That’s because mercenary companies make their money by waging wars, seizing land, and creating colonial economies.Mercenary wars will destroy the U.S. economy, because these companies must constantly wage wars in order to pay their shareholders.
>>542041707>muh startrek>muh starfleetthe hype merchant is spinning his hype
>>542041117>Who said anything about a year?S&P has returned 20% this past year so I figured if we're all getting excited about some new super-corporation with a license to print profits they'd be hitting the 40% OP claims in a year. What's your timeframe on getting 40% returns out of any of those you listed and why do you believe that?>>542042694>mercenary companies make their money by waging wars, seizing land, and creating colonial economies.Which one of those companies has outperformed the S&P index over the past 10 years and which ones do you suspect are going to be making giant profits over the next few years?
>>542045369>which ones do you suspect are going to be making giant profits over the next few years?dji
>>542045369The military drone market in China is currently highly competitive.A large number of companies are researching how to mount assault rifles on drones. https://b23.tv/GPzREsU
>>542045369and RPG
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