All you need is 0.5 percent of Sahara to power US and Europe. With DARPA wireless energy tech, you don't even need wires to transmit electricity.
>>542044506You are ignorant. You have conversion losses, transmission losses, reliability losses as solar is not reliable. The true figure is cover ALL of Arizona and most of New Mexico for the US usage alone. Then you think you're gonna transmit it wireless, which us uber retarded. The losses are gonna make that a joke
>>542044506but how will saudis shit in american models' mouths?
>>542044506shut up abdul
>>542044676you could put it on your roof, but then how will jews make money? you're not very conservative if you're not conserving jewish income.
>>542044778>jews make moneyBy selling you intentionally shitty quality solar panels you need to replace every 5-10 years.
>>542044506The solars panels would be destroyed within a few weeks.Did you not see the state of african countries ?Unless you have a lot of PMC operators, no way to defend such infrastructures.
>>542044676DARPA has laser energy transmission. It's like space solar but much stable.
>>542044506do people even realize the side of those squares lmao.
>>542044931>The solars panels would be destroyed within a few weeks.Concrete, Mirror and Salt. PV isn't needed.
>>542044707I like chink models.>>542045049It's massive land but 0.5 for Europe and US is based actually. We can certainly get it done once wireless transmission is tested and deployed.
>>542045052>underestimating the nog's power to destroy literally anything
>>542045161How about we chain the nigs first? We colonise Africa.
>>542044506solar is very inefficient , like really bad.You want on to transfer it to another medium like steam.
>>542044506That red square it is like Switzerland right?
| Component | Approximate capital cost || ---------------------------------------- | -----------------------: || ~5.6 TW utility-scale solar | **$10–11 trillion** || ~60 TWh grid storage | **$9–23 trillion** || Major national transmission expansion | **$1.5–2.5 trillion** || Distribution/grid upgrades & EV charging | **~$0.5–1.5 trillion** || **Total** | **~$21–38 trillion** || Reasonable central estimate | **~$27 trillion** |
>>542044506>All you need is 0.5 percent of Sahara to power US and EuropeNot if they want AI and data centers
>>542045529>invents advanced tech >uses it to boil waterWhat’s the deal with meatbags and their obsession with steam?
>>542045159We had one of these in the Arizona desert. Apparently it was like a bird Holocaust
>>542045577Cool, we steal from Africa. It's free.
>>542045535One the new French map that makes big black land.
>>542045651Steam works best. Sorry you don't like it. Free free to propose something that works better to convert heat into electrify Thermopiles suck.
>>542045648>Not if they want AI and data centersMost of Sahara is unused anyway. Let's scale it up.
>>542045765Stirling engines, meatbags wouldn’t get it.
>>542045662Their contract got pulled since there was constant outages. All they needed was better engineers to hold the molten salt but instead theirs solidified often which clogged up the machinery.
>>542045675Or we could go to nuclear energy for $8 trillion.
>>542045845inefficent. That's just lower division undergrad physics and I'm not going to explain it to you, because if you could understand it you would know it already
who /dyson swarm/ here
>>542045845Stirling works by temp gradient. It is not an advanced tech you and build one yourself. The problem is you get extreme heat but you will all so need a cold source to get the most out of it. So would you spend energy on super-cooling or steam?
>>542044506Just go out and clean dust from all those panels every day, bro!
>>542046173Why would anyone waste free energy? Nuclear is outdated and uranium runs out in 20 years if scaled up.
>>542044676>cover ALL of Arizona and most of New Mexico for the US usage alone.Based, now im on board.
I did the full math and funny the graph is wrong actually. It's much smaller than that. A single dot in Algeria is enough for Europe and US combined. Who ever made that has shitty way of producing any data.
>>542046439to save $19 Trillion dollars over the alternative nuclear power which cost $8 TAnd there's no such thing as "free energy". you sound like one of those mid wit "i fucking love science!" shills who spout a simple minded deception. DO you have a hook nose to go with that meme flag? No reason to hide your ID on a Solar power thread.
>>542046290Supercritical c02 solves the efficiency problem pussy boi.
>>542046439>>542046439>uranium runs outNot in 20 years. Thorium reactors can be built today, also
>>542046362Whatever launched in space is gone forever and that's a shitty way to make energy.We can recycle things in earth.
>>542045815How would you distribute the power to the world?And please don't say DARPA's energy tech.
>>542046686Thorium is basically fan fiction at this point, literally a scam. Only jeets are invested in it. And honestly, it’s no different from fusion. Fusion? More like fiction.
>>542046290>solar is “free” but widely dispersed, ergo inefficient by nature>this angers and confuses the sauna loving meatbag
>>542046400You know what gets really cold in the desert? Night time.
>>542046810Saunas are the best, fuck you.
>>542046846See, always with the steam.
>>542045159SimCity4 was right about solar
>>542046731We send electromagnetic waves through air. The same tech behind space solar. There's microwaves too but lasers look guaranteed. But you gotta make it a no fly zone though cause it zaps everything.
>>542046630Supercritical CO2 makes the engine smaller, not more efficient, and is useful for temperatures about 500-750 C and pressures that cause other fatigue problems in the vesselLaws of thermodynamics still apply. You clearly don't understand them. I kinda hate you "I fucking love science!" guys, you fall for sucker claims all the time and then think you're smart for being a damned fool. Dunning Kruger.
>>542046934If meatbags weren’t so assblasted about the whole ozone hole thing I’m sure there’s a Freon that’d work just fine.
>>542046773>thinks Thorium is fusion. Invincible Dunning Kruger. Fusion has national security issues. Thorium is just neutron activation to make a fissile material.
>>542046439they have fusionthe reason it's still not here yet is fakethey want to keep charging people for oil as long as posible when it gets anywhere close to runing out they just swich to fusionsolar panels are very bad for earth where the resources to make them are ripped from the earthnothing will ever grow there where they use trilions of littres of water to procces those matterials
>>542047034>breeding fissile isotopes isn’t a national security issue Why is India the country actively exploring thorium tech, aside from their large thorium deposits? Serious question, genuinely curious. We know it’s technically feasible.
>>542045159Lossless wireless transmission...?Regardless, it would be nice if Africa contributed, for once.
>>542046996I was at the University who which had the Antarctic expedition that discovered the hole in the ozone layer. I remember going to the seminars. It's funny. They said there was a hole. Someone else jumped on "it's man made! We're all gonna die!"Then they reported the hole shrank, which didn't correlate to all the shrill claims by the shills trying to exploit it, so it wasn't reported. I gotta say, you "I fucking Love Science!" guys don't even know what science is, and you think that falling for dumb shit stuff means you're saving the plant. Your dunning krueger gives meaning to your otherwise meaningless (to you) lives.
>>542045651You know how I know that you're not an engineer, Hamshivraj...?
>>542046934>Laws of thermodynamics still applyFuck your gay law. CSP is fundamentally designed around a temperature limit of roughly 500°C largely because conventional molten-salt systems cannot be heated significantly beyond that range. But the raw solar energy concentrated by the mirrors easily reach around 1,400°C on average.In other words, modern Concentrated Solar Power is, to a significant extent, constrained by the limitations of the steam cycle it is designed to drive.Now imagine replacing the conventional steam cycle with a supercritical CO2 power cycle. It reaches around 50% under suitable operating conditions while still retaining the advantages of a solid, reliable, and continuously dispatchable energy system.
>>542047168Yours is Not really relevant and not an engineering or science based argument, but as a non-science explanation, I'd say India has no vested interest in a petroleum based industry and is thus politically free to investigate alternatives to that which they can't afford on a global market.
>>542047259>you "I fucking Love Science!" guys don't even know what science isThis.Typical leftists."Smarter" than everyone in the room.Can't even conceptualize inertia or potential energy.
>>542047259Dropped out huh? Point is we can produce exotic working fluids with pretty well tailored properties well suited to things like Stirling engines, we’re just not allowed to because stupid Australian meatbags getting skin cancer or something. Fuck ‘em.
all the geothermal we need right here
>>542047237Africa ran by white people, deffo. We only need 0.5 to power the white civilization. we can manage to bribe Algeria for that.
>>542046838For sterling you need simulations hot and cold. that is how a temperature gradient works.If your heat source is 100C and your cold source is 0C you have 100 degrees. If you make your cold source -100 you have 200 degrees. At night in the dessert you get cold but don't have that heat source anymore.You'd reed to store it. That is where the steam comes in. The sun gives you way more energy than you can handle and you need to move it efficiently for it to be useful.
>>542047060scientists who talk too much about things, disappear, or get robbed at home and die yet nothing is taken and few notice. Yeah... I can see why. Lets stick to Solar vs. Fission.
>>542044994>estimating distortion error>calculating reflection arcs>focusing light energy>uncurling the vector potential>amplyifying helmholtz-hodge overtone series>phase conjugating input stream>charging critical power for optimal kerr effectmelting nwp, standby
>>542047492I’m guessing this isn’t done simply because Stirling engines require moving parts and in a desert shockingly full of sand solid state PV or solar furnaces are just easier. Unfortunate.
>>542047430what part of "The laws of thermodynamics" do you not fucking understand?It's all about (absolute) TEMPERATURE, high vs low, not the working fluid. Steam works because you can condense it, and pumping cheap water is cheaper than pumping a gas. Yeah, you can raise the temperature and have higher pressures, but then you gotta engineer the damned thing and metals don't like high pressure and heat.
>>542047492>>542047618We don't need Stirling. Supercritical Co2 is enough
>>542047720Raising the temperature of the source does increase efficiency, but it causes all kinds of engineering challenges that have yet to be solved regarding high pressure and high temperature. and what does that have to do with solar?
>>542047060Fusion is impossible. Only Sun can run by it since God powers it. The overunity they've claimed can't even power a light bulb for couple days.
>>542047973>what does that have to do with solar?I literally said we've been capping the heat for it since conventional turbines can't handle the molten salt at that temperature?
>>542047618You ever fry an ant with a magnifying glass?The prinicple is make the solar power the strongest you can though concentration and transfer that to a medium. Steam is good, you can use salts or other materials. In Canada the problem is not solar it we use the sun the wrong way. We should not be worrying about solar power but thermal energy. Storing the thermal energy from the sun and keeping you warmer longer in the year is more beneficial. You can live without wifi but you will freeze to death without warmth.So in short solar is ok, but you should be storing the thermal energy not the electrical one.
>>542046362That is when the real project begins.
>>542044506okay. remind me to not live nearby anything they are tinkering with
>>542048248DARPA is good actually. They are good solution providers.
>>542048134Finland made sand batteries you should look into.
>>542047259It is caused by cosmic rays.Cosmic rays and ozone are significantly correlated with lags from –23 to +24 months. That is why scientist can't see it. Cosmic rays cause both direct chemical depletion (NOₓ) and indirect dynamical modulation (Brewer‑Dobson circulation).The coherent periods are 234.5 d and 241.5 d, which suggest a common celestial driver (imprints on both the ionosphere (TEC) and the heliospheric magnetic field (GCR flux), then cascades into stratospheric ozone. The chemical depletion is ozone itself, attacked by GCR‑produced reactive nitrogen.
>>542047493How are you right about this but act like a agent at the same time?
>>542047168Cause Indians eat poop.
>>542044506Another con job to give away money to be stolen.
>>542044676You don't need a lot of energy tho, most energy is spend on keeping the lights on in office buildings where girlbosses sit doing bullshit jobs. That's exaggerated but the idea is thus: optimize the fake and gay bubble economic bullshit and you can power the entire economy with what solar panels are already deployed. If a normie isn't developing fusion tech, railguns to launch cargo into space or something like that just send him out of the city: he can shitpost about the current thing, play vidia and scroll onlyfans from a solar powered yurt somewhere in the the middle of nowhere being connected by Musk's Starlink
>>542046720the oil jew doesn’t want you dyson swarm maxxing
>>542051981>girlbosses sit doing bullshit jobsI like you
>>542046602Eurasia being smaller than europe+asia=eurasia wasn't strange for you?
>>542044506>sand and hellfire-tier heat versus glass/plastic/adhesives/metalI'm sure that'll work great.
How the actual fuck can Africa be THAT undeveloped compared to even Europe?
>>542053670Niggers
>>542053616CSP is concrete, mirror and salt.
>>542052971Eurasia typically means it's Russia which is sometimes considered Europe and China.
