Realistically, could Argentina take the Falklands? How would YOU do it, given the forces at Argentina's and Britain's disposal?
>>542045871>Realistically, could Argentina take the Falklands?No.>How would YOU do it, given the forces at Argentina's and Britain's disposal?What forces?
>>542045871Guess we gotta teach you a lesson again filthy argie. Lost the world cup and lost the Falklands
>>542045872/thread
>>542045872>How would YOU do it, given the forces at Argentina's and Britain's disposal?>What forces?its really funny how that cuts both ways. it favors britain cause neither side has the ability to do anything
Do we really need to have this thread so often, argentina sabre rattling is nothing new.
>>542045871Legitimate Claims to the Falklands>Britain>France>America>Literally every other naval power during the age of navigation>Argentina?
>>542045871>Realistically, could Argentina take the Falklands?No. They say this every year because it's part of the Argentine psyche at this point. They're not actually going to do it.
>>542045878They just need to wait for the UK navy to further degrade.
>>542045878I think it's more notable this time round because of Trump also commenting on it out of annoyance the UK didn't try to help him in Iran so it feels like he may try to exert concrete pressure in the matter.
>>542045879The UK could disintegrate entirely and the Falklands left completely depopulated and Argentina still wouldn't be able to take it. Not that if the UK could do anything if Argentina, by some miracle, manages to get a single soldier onto the Falklands, but still.
>>542045880He'll talk some shit then forget and be distracted by something else that upsets him.
The royal navy consists of like 1 frigate and a submarine that's in for maintenance. Everything else has effectively been decommissioned.A guy with a kayak and a BB gun could take the Falklands with how incredibly weak Britain currently is
And now we get the real reason this thread was made, crying thirdies raging about the UK yet again. Shit's tired.
Does Argentina even know that a big portion of the population in Falklands is Chilean?
>MUH MALVINASAh, I see we've entered the "things turning to shit again" part of the Argentinean Economic Clockwork Cycle
>>542045880Unless he's going to ferry them over with the US Navy it makes fuck all difference.
>>542045871>Argentina unironically voted in someone that looks like they're from Austin PowersWhy? For the bants?
>>542045888After 70 years of Peronism you'd be looking for any out too
>>542045871the only thing Argentina could take is 10 inches of BIG BRITISH COCK up their asses once again.
>>542045890The impotent euro rage
>>542045871Everyone is saying no but Argentina can make this a nightmare for the UK without ever sending a single ship or plane. They just need to build a bunch of lawnmower drones and chuck them at the island. The UK is in no better a position to shoot them down then the US is with Iran, their stockpiles of AA can not hold up to this kind of attack. With only 2800 people on the island, there is no way the UK won't evacuate everyone.I don't think the UK wants to spend the kind of time and money necessary to counter endless one way attack drones, the Falklander don't want to live in bunkers and there is nothing meaningful the UK can hit back with that would make Argentina stop unless the UK is willing to level Buenos Aires.
>>5420458911982 called and said "open them brown cheeks wide argie. welcome to the struggle snuggle."
>1982>a failed regime incites a conflict as a way to draw attention away from domestic issues>2026>a failed regime incites a conflict as a way to draw attention away from domestic issues
>>542045893I'm not even Argentine. I just want to see you lose what you're too weak to hold
>>542045895>I'm not even Argentinejesus christ that sad. not even good enough for argentina. at least youre man enough to admit it, brownie.
>>65482317Ah, you are not a real person with real opinions, you are child being annoying on purpose.
>>542045897Says the seething faggot talking about British cock, you freak
the ultimate humor here is that the UK probably would have handed it over by now had the Argies not chimped out over it
>>542045871No, the whole point is just to help Putin once again.UK is a staunch supporter of Ukraine and is open to giving lots of machinery and weapons to the Ukies in the one theatre that matters to UK's security.Well Krasnov was once again activated and is now pushing brown dicktator to do the funny.And well, even the potential threat of brown dicktator doing the funny means that UK has to make sure it has a big enough FUCK OFF force at the ready and can't just throw everything that's not outright essential at Ukraine to fuck the Russians up more.Come on, anon. This shit is plain as fuck, even GitS episodes are harder to follow and that's a cartoon for 90s kids.
>>542045894During heightened tensions in Europe and a concern as to whether or not Britain is actually in any fit state to handle anything if it does kick off.History does like its rhymes.
Given that Argentina's air force consists of 30 very old planes and their navy consists of two destroyers and 5 corvettes, I'm gonna say no.>How would YOU do itI would send a couple hundred argentine cuties to mate with local men, and raise families and educate their children to be argentine rather than english.
>>542045902This, but use Argetinian women who already live in the EU so it'll be easier to get into the UK.
>>542045892Well Britain could do the same thing back i spades - don't forget the missile and drone expertise the UK has built up in Ukraine. And it has a vastly larger budget for that sort of thing. But the UK could just wreck Argentina's fragile economy with a few dozen carefully placed Tomahawks hitting strategic targets, it's not like Argentina can shoot them down.
>>542045892The problem is, there’s nothing on the islands that are worth shooting at.
>>65482317I'm shocked that someone as black as you can operate your obama phone well enough to post on here with voice to text.
>>542045899Nah. None of the locals want to be Argentinian. The last referendum that was held, 99% of voters wanted to stay with the Bongs. And of the ones that voted against it, one wanted to be total independence, and two people actually want to remain with Britain, but voted against it because they felt like nobody would trust a vote that was 100%
>>542045902Argentine air force just got a handful of old F-16s. No match for the Typhoons based on the Falklands but better than what they had.
>>542045871Will we send them another $40 billion to spread the failed libertarian experiment to the Falklands?
>>542045878Maybe they'll have another go because Milei is fucking stupid, literally insane and good friends with Trump.Also all the billionaires want to prove how great economic libertarianism is so they keep helping out Argentina with things like the beef deal.
>>542045871Israel is calling in their connections to lash out at Spain and the UK. This belongs in /int/.
It's a pointless discussion. The British secret service is the best in the world and it would take the Argentines months to scrape together a pitiful invasion force. Britain could simply fly down a few more Typhoons and a battalion of troops and that would be it. There are already a couple of thousand troops on the islands IIRC.
>>542045908Those F-16s are block 15. They're OLD.
>>542045911Israel and the UK are collaborating to search for oil off the Falklands, that's why the argies are spazzing out right now.
>>542045913Better than the 1970s Skyhawks they were using. As I said, the four Typhoons already down there would swat them out of the sky.
So they're phasing out the FN FAL for a 7.62 NATO Piston AR. Better than the L85A1?
>>542045880Man, if he blows up America's diplomatic relationship with Britain over this shit of all possible things...
>>542045900>cartoon for 90s kids>with a lesbian sex scene>and gratuitous violence>made in the 2020sWdhmbt? I'm still pretty jazzed the manga finally got a direct adaptation, crazy to think that it's been nearly 40 years and so many other GitS shows but no original manga adaptation. Fucking SAC 2045 happened first and that was a bigger travesty than Ghost in the Jo
>>542045917The strategic tea and crumpet reserve will suffer?
>>542045871>could third world brown country defeat other third world brown countryIts entirely possible
>>542045920Argentina is first world.
>>542045871 What navy does the UK have to defend the Falklands with?
>>542045921>median income of ~$5500 per capita
>>542045922There navy is still much larger then Argentina's more do to the fact Argentina has been a beggar nation and is only afloat do to the state at this time. But considering the UK is giving up Islands left and right at this point they could just hand it over.
>>542045920The UK is 85% White, argentina is 0% White
>>542045919Engines generators some other mechanical thing along with some service industry stuff mostly banking some medical stuff as well. We don't really need to burn more bridges but considering the UK current state maybe we could consider it even if its unwise.
>>542045917>Britain has been continuously told by the US for several decades that they need to revitalize their military and spend more of their GDP on defense.>Britain refuses and instead decides to commit military suicide by way of financially strangling all branches of their militaryBritain deserves to get kicked in the balls for doing stupid ass shit like this. If anything, Trump would most likely try and force Britain to give the Falklands over to the US
>>542045924states*
>65482494>Putinist nonsenseFuck off
>>542045927I feel that while the "Europe needs to pay more for its defence" crowd aren't wrong, the way Trump is going about it is going to convert a bunch of partners into rivals and leave the US less well off.
>>542045907The UK was trying to give the Chagos Islands, including Diego Garcia, away to Mauritius last year, completely umprompted and without even asking the locals, who didnt want this in any way. Nobody in Mauritius wanted this either, and it was only stopped because Trump threatened to rape Starmer if he threatened his Iran war strategic base with Chinese-influenced Mauritius taking over at the worst time. The Starmer governments' agenda was literally to just weaken, diminish and humilliate the UK, if the Falklands handn't been bled over you can bet your ass they would have been given away for free.
>>542045930The Europe needs to spend more crowd are living 3 years in the past and unable to just google defence spending.
>>542045930He tried asking bluntly before and while i think he should have more finesse in his shit talking and insinuations(i would appeal to the European public to pressure their politicians over defense), it is an objective fact that Europeans only get off their asses and gain motivation when you insult their pride and make them butthurt.
>>542045907if the Argies weren't dumb they wouldn've taken a 5 second look at UK proper and realized they 100% would've been able to bribe some Pakis to be shipped in 200% of the amount of the population of the natives to the Falklands under the guise of refugees to vote for Argie annexation
>>542045930>the way Trump is going about it is going to convert a bunch of partners into rivals and leave the US less well off.Bush Senior, Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama have all asked as cordially and politely as diplomatically possible with regards for our western european allies to spend more on their defense and take their militaries seriously but they were all shut down or blatantly ignored. I think there's even an interview where Obama was saying that when Trump was blunt, but still relatively cordial, about having the western Europeans to spend more on their own defenses that he (Obama) was glad that there was someone in the US willing to tell people to their faces that they needed to cut their bullshit and get their asses in gear. If it takes having the Europeans to become a rival geopolitical block to have them actually take their defense needs seriously than I'm all for it, but even than there is still a shit ton of decision makers throughout Europe that would rather shit their pants and do nothing all day despite Russia having ACTIVE MILITARY SABATOGE campaigns running throughout the continent.
>>542045935If Russia is so concerning, why doesn't the US increase THEIR defense spending? Why is it up to Europe?
>>542045936Because the US is busy with Chyna, and Russia's actively trying to assert dominance on Europe so it is objectly their problem
>>542045936The US already spends a trillion dollars on the military, over two thirds of all NATO spending and well over 3% of its GDP, and it didn't need Russia invading Ukraine twice to encourage it to do so.
>>542045937>muh ChinaAnd who exactly is China threatening, other than occupied US colonies?
So we're getting into the divide and conquer posting too then.
>>542045939>Vietnam is now an occupied US colony>As is IndonesiaNews to me
>>542045935Europeans would happily support Russia's rise by purchasing their LNG and petroleum rather than commit to defense spending because these policy makers weren't about to make Russia their problem until a Ukraine happened. The second time.
State of the Bong military?State of the Arg military?
>>542045941China isn't threatening either of those countries. Stop making shit up.
>>542045936why doesn't the US increase THEIR defense spending?they literally did, increased from 1 tril to 1.5 or 1.7
>>542045944Tell that to the Philippines fishermen.
>>542045939Not that you're actually European, but even taking that false premise at face value, you were saying the exact same thing about Russia before the 2022 invasion.
>>542045871certain things cannot be done and doing them offers no benefits
>>542045943>State of the Bong military?Not great >State of the Arg military?Lol, Lmao, Lmfao even
>>542045947I was not. In fact, I was criticizing Trump for allowing things to get this bad.
>>542045935But that's not really what Trump is asking.What he's asking is not for euros to build up their MIC and their defense, it's for them to spend their defense budget on the US MIC buying tons of US weapons, and for their armies to serve as supplement forces for US operation, and only this way, not the other. See him whinning like a bitch about Iran.>>542045937>so it is objectly their problemSo why do you care?
>>542045949>Lol, Lmao, Lmfao evenOh I just checked their budget (as per wikipedia) and its only 2.9 billy$
>>542045950Liar. Trump was the one asking Europe to take the Russian threat seriously. This was their reaction.
Kek. Why is trump so stupid? The UK government DOESN'T want the Falklands and they DIDN'T want it back then too. In fact, they were in the process of forcing the Falklanders to accept being given away to Argentina. But nooooo. The Argies couldn't simply waited another 5 years. They HAD to invade...because machismo and all that. So now the UK is in a kafkaesque situation: they dun wan it but they have to keep up appearances. I suspect the Argies dun wan it either but...MACHISMO! So, Trump is adding another layer to this shitcake. Maybe the Bongs could prod Trump in invading the island himself. Not the first time he goes to secluded islands.
>>542045954>heh, we are cucks who hate ourselves and WANT to give up our empire! Take that adolf trumpler!!!Do brits really?
>>542045880Taco
>>542045953Abe...
>>542045954clearly 5D chess to wake the bongs up from their cucked stupor
>>542045957He was so young...
>>542045871I'd just give it to them at this point. their government has surpassed ours in levels of common decency. We're not even doing anything with the oil ffs.
>>542045902Nah, send some asylum seekers to the island and they'll burn the garrison down whilst chanting milei's name and revving chainsaws
>>542045917Good. I don’t wanna be friends with any state that treats it’s people as bad as Britain
>>542045953False. Trump was begging them to take Russia back into the Global summit
>>542045951>But that's not really what Trump is asking.Which was why I specifically mentioned Trump's first term where he was more subdued and actively being tard wrangled and not his current Alzheimer-induced rants and blatant power grabs/fantasies that we're living through now. >So why do you care?Because the Russians have shown that they are monsters to those that they subdue and subjugate. Yet the Europeans are hmm'ing and haw'ing while slapping the Russians on the wrist for launching homemade explosives into electrical substations and burning down military defense industrial plants and storage yards. Pretty sure there was even a story where explosives were found in some house or warehouse where it was suspected that the sabetuers were wanting to bomb train tracks.
>>542045876>>542045871if any of you have ever lived there this is literally nothing surprising. they do this every year pretty much. most busses have stickers that declare the islands to be Argentinian. most major cities have murals that show the islands alongside the mainland. entire towns are literally named Islas Malvinas. if you ask anyone about the topic they will all believe that the islands are theirs and that the kelpers should be deported if not neglected as though you asked them if the sky is bluevery odd but that's just the way things are>>542045900millei literally does not give a single fuck about russia lmfao. he, alongside basically the entire nation just specifically hates the UK over the Kelper Question pretty much. I cannot put in words how petty and specific the loathing is for Argentina here. Trying to tie it to a broader picture of geopolitics mistakes this generational grudge for any kind of statesmenship of any kind. There is no logic here, at least in that sense
>>542045871>dude looks like CI5 agent>wants to drag Argentina into another war with Bongistancomedy gold
>>542045964>I specifically mentioned Trump's first term where he was more subdued and actively being tard wrangled and not his current Alzheimer-induced rants and blatant power grabs/fantasies that we're living through now.The difference is that in his first term he tried to treat Euro's like adults and partners. He's not making the same mistake again, and to be honest, its long past due. Obama, Bush and Clinton all hated dealing with Euros.
>>542045871Milei looks like he's escaped from a 1970s British comedy TV show.
>>542045892Nothing on the island to hit, plenty of shit in Argentina to hit/sink. Also if Argentina starts landing ground troops they'll be bombed to shit, again.
Why does this island make them retarded?
>>542045968Cue Yakety Sax
>>542045970They tried taking it and got raped by bongs (despite America and the French helping the Argies) now that island right off their coast is an eternal reminder they are just retarded sudacas and will never be first world
>>542045947Russia dindu nuffin!!!So why always Wect is so to the warmongering???
>>542045970It’s not about the islands, not really. The islands are functionally worthless for anyone.What it’s actually about is having a convenient target they can use to distract from internal issue.
>>542045974The islands are absolutely not worthless. First of all, there is oil there. Second of all, by controlling the Falklands, the UK gains a claim to a region of Antarctica, which has a huge amount of untapped resources (just as an example, a massive amount of coal). Third, it provides force projection for the UK and its allies should the need arise in that part of the world.
>>542045973Lol that SVR agent hasn't deleted his YT video.https://youtu.be/f6onPfIzIuc?si=sDIrXa_LyD_4el1v
>>542045880Trump is a dementia-addled fucking retard and nothing he says matters. There is no viable way for Argentina to take the Falklands even with the roaring "success" of getting inflation to ONLY 33% YOY.
>>542045975>a claim to a region of AntarcticaAll the claims are already taken as far as my ignorant ass knows
>>542045978The claims are>UK, thanks to Falklands>Argentina, by proximity>Australia, ditto>Chile, ditto>New Zealand, ditto>Norway, historical and due to some minor islands near Antarctica >France, due to Pacific holdingsNotable here is that the UK's claims and Argentina's claims overlap. Without the Falklands, the UK has no valid claim and Argentina's full claims come into force.
>>542045979Surprised the US doesn't have any claims given how many year round stations we have. A surprising level of restraint but a welcome one
>>542045980Scientific stations are different than territorial claims, the US wouldn't have a leg to stand on really.
Man we live in weird times. I feel like a hundred years from now historians are gonna look at this period scratch their heads why such wars were started over the silliest shit.
>>542045932Not at all. Few of them are spending anywhere near the level required to actually halt degredation of, let alone meaningfully regenerate, their capabilities after decades of neglect. Spending at sub-2 or 3% GDP for decades creates a deficit that needs to be closed with commensurately higher spending over time. Only some of the Nordic states, Baltic states and Poland are closing the gap.
>>542045871This fucking guy looks and acts like a 1970s mid-level exec who spent the entire decade on a cocaine bender
britain comes with 1 carrier and like 20 f-35's and takes a steaming fat dump on all of argentina
>>542045883Essentially what the junta thought in the 80s.>But... The Empire refused to be cucked
>>542045930He's also mad that after he went out of his way to antagonise them as much as possible, Europe is avoiding investment in American weaponry. Who could have seen that coming?
>>542045982This is actually a return to normalcy as far as the historical record goes.Most wars in history were the result of perceived slights or pure territorial greed.
>>542045981>the US wouldn't have a leg to stand on really.That hasn't stopped us before
>>542045989All this was settled in the early 20th century when things were a little more formal.And right now, the US has everything it wants out of the South Pole with no claim required.
>>542045975>which has a huge amount of untapped resourcesWhich every nation with a presence on the continent is banned from trying to extract. One of the few times we as a species agreed to not tear up something nice for some more coal
>>542045991"Banned" like how countries are "banned" from owning territory in Outer Space. It's not permanent and will eventually be overturned.
>>542045986Now the situation is actually pretty bad for Britain. Argentina has no way to credibly project force and is completely broke but the Falklands are effectively defenseless. Most of the Cold War fleet has aged out and has been decommissioned.Right now the Royal Navy has to protect all of the UK's global possessions across the entire planet with:Two (2) Type 45 destroyer. 4/6 are in a major maintenance/overhaul.Four (4) Type 23 Frigates. There might be a 5th ship available depending on the time of year. The remaining two are in overhaul.One (1) Astute class submarine. The remaining 5 are basically mothballed because their maintenance is so far behind. No parts availability whatsoever.One (1) Vanguard class ssbm. This can't be spared due to its critical national defense role. The are 3 additional subs in dock but the UK is so far behind with maintenance that its rumored that there are times where not even a single Vanguard class sub is seaTwo (2) Queen Elizabeth class carriers. The only part of the navy in good standing and that's only because HMS Queen Elizabeth recently left drydock.This is overall not good. The only thing Britain could reasonably scrape together in addition are the 8 River class patrol vessels sailing around but this is barely a usable force and over-reliant on the carriers for everything.
>>542045875Pretty much.
>>542045932Comically deluded, collective European military might is in a sorry fucking state, like it has been for decades.
>>542045871Load up 5-10,000 prisoners on ships, sail to the Falklands and dump them off. The UK either has to care for your criminals or cede the island.
>>542045973>>542045976lmfao, this guy would make an exquisite basedjak
>>542045892Thirdie post.
>>542045892Its a 2 stage process they need to identify and disable UK AAA and also temporarily disable the fighter squadron on the ground, which should be doable with 100 or so Shahed type drones. But then they have to destroy the runways. That will be conventional air strike. The final stage is getting troops on to the east island - it might be the easiest part. Obviously syncronization is needed but the hardest part is the AAA intelligence there will have to be great power/satellite information feed.Once troops are across the east island its over for the UK they just don't have the ability to do a retake any more. None of the gear, no capacity. Maybe they can dick around with submarines and cause losses but the submarines are nuclear priority and very little to spare on far off escapades. And they might be lost.
>>542045975No oil the UK majors from the North sea did a lot of exploration after the war. The rock formations are the wrong age (too old), similar to Australia. There is gas where the oil used to be, but that is marginal not an easy money prospect. If oil was found production would have started by the 1980s.
>>542045871They can't. Argentina is basically Mexico but with a third of the population, a third of the wealth and no heavy industry. They are however delusional so will probably try something and get curb stomped again.
>>542046000https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands_oil
>>542045954>I suspect the Argies dun wan it either butThey do.
>>542045871>How would YOU do itSink em :^)
>>542045974>It’s not about the islands, not really. The islands are functionally worthless for anyone.There's enough oil and gas around the islands to the point where the UK could essentially turn into another Norway with regards to the soverign wealth fund
>>542046005Not him, but why is Argentina in the state that it is?
>>542046005Here is the best prospect field:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Lion_FieldAlso some information about the rock at the bottom. tl;dr there are problems. Also its small 50,000 bbl/day is equivalent to the Seagull field which was only recently developed in 2023 Seagull is North Sea and the North Sea as a whole is nearing end of production so Seagull will be one of the last. Offshore stops at 10,000 bbl/day.
>>542046006Which state?
>Argentina keep feeding bongland free xp
>>542045871The Falklanders don't want to be part of Argentina.
>>542045880Trump says lots of things. Leave NATO, take over Greenland, give the Argies the islands, rename a bunch of shit after himself... It's not that hard to separate his actual policy from his blatant trolling of the media and intl community, unless you're lookin to play along with his news headline manipulation game
>>542045871>could Argentina take the Falklands?They just did.
Current UK govt are lestists, so realisicically Argentina could ask for them 'back' and the govt woud gib. The govt loves gibs. Also the UK, as it has only had leftist govt for the last 30 years, has hollowed out its armed forces to the point where they really could not do what they could in the 80s.
>>542045871Lol no.In 1982 the Islands were initially defended by around 70 marines until the UK moved troops halfway around the world.Today, it has a permanent military personnel of around 1500, a handful of Tyhpoons (now with dedicated refuling craft), and island based missiles systems.UK would send more forces, and further Typhoons would arrive in a day or so.Pay no heed to the Argie PM.
>>542046011I suppose we don't need to worry about a war with iran, US abandonment of the ukrainian front, trade wars during economic uncertainty, the epstein files undermining public figures and US energy shifting from renewables to coal then.
>>542045873England got BTFO'd by Argentina in the world cup. Bongs were crying and upset about Argentina's comeback.
>>542045871Is the MGP-84 coming back?
>>542045892they could always go after Argentina itself in responseits not like the Argentinians would be able to offer meaningful resistance to a British invasion if they decided to simply occupy the launch sites
>>542045877Quads of truth.>>542046013Any UK party that gives away the Falklands would never get elected again and they know it.
>>542045871I send the AI-powered, NFT/Bitcoin-funded Metaverse Internet-of-things, Internet 3.0 dot-com Seastead.It will attack by siphoning the poo and piss into the ocean.
>>542046013>Also the UK, as it has only had leftist govt for the last 30 yearsThe most notable political change of the last 30 years was Labour taking a jump... to the right, which pushed the Tories even closer to the US Uniparty position.
>>542045891>hello I’m a confused insecure and obese American and I’m hostile to everyone because deep down I know that my country is a corrupt soon-to-be-a-dictatorship shithole with 40 trillion dollars of national debt and a military that can’t beat Iran in a conventional war.lol at you, fatty. The whole world is laughing at you.
>>542045877That's what makes the Argentine fixation on the islands look so strange. The Russians, while retarded niggers, can make a comparatively convincing-looking case for why Ukraine "belongs with" them due to a history of running it, even if you don't think they deserve to have it (anymore). Argentina sort of just decided "That's ours, because."What would their argument even be for their claim overruling Brazil's if Brazil (equally) arbitrarily decided one day "Actually, WE should have them"?
>>542045927At the time of brexit the UK was something like the second biggest contributer to the EU military after germany. Burgers just seethe that the UK runs a functioning wellfare system instead of running their military as a non-functioning wellfare system
>>542045999>And they might be lost.To what? Argentina has only 3 destroyers. They are equipped with MF sonar that will be 50 years old before the turn of the decade. They are supported by 6 corvettes and 6 patrol vessels. The entire country does not own operate a single low or very low frequency sonar and the most optimistic detection ranges for the sonars they do have against a noisy target are shorter than the range of torpedoes.The name of their destroyer class says everything you need to know about third world navies.
>>542045980>>542045989Oil gold?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7tAGqrNq7A
>>542045871He looks like an unholy combination of Harry Potter and the mentat from the old Dune mini-series.
>>542045910>believes thisTrump fried your brain.
>>542045942Remember when Trump went to the UN and gave a speech warning of this thing and Europeans laughed at him? Pepperidge Farm fucking remembers.
>>542045954>island Trump never went to the island you fucking shitstain.
>>542046021What the fuck is the US Uniparty?
on one hand the british army was reduced to nothingon the other the only part that's left is the navy so i give it a better chance than working than the last try
Hypothetically, what is stopping Argentina from filling up a bunch of NGO boats with thousands of "refugees" and just dumping them on the Falklands for a year or two? The UK doesnt stop refugees from landing on the UK and even helps them once they get there. So why couldnt they just invade the Falklands the same way the UK is being invaded?
>>542045871I'd have Donny whine about how unfair it is and if Britain was really a freind and ally they'd know what's best for them like a parody of an old timey mobster *wink wink nudge nudge*
This is just another obvious /pol/ack bait thread
>>542045993Still more than enough to deal with whatever Argentina can scrape together. Hell the forces already on the island would probably be enough.
>>542045871>tanks in the ratings>immediately starts talking about the falklands
>>542045892>unless the UK is willing to level Buenos AiresDon't threaten us with a good time, argie.
>>542045871Nigga, they can't even feed their people, that's why the saber rattling about las malvinas. It's what they always do.
>>542045879...and other fantasies the FSB would love you to believe.
>>542045957Donaldaru...
>>542045995What's it like, still living in 2023?
>>542046016>both lost the world cup>UK won the war
>>542045892>launch drones from mainland>we blow up the mainlanddo argies really want this?
>>542045871>How would YOU do it, given the forces at Argentina's and Britain's disposal?start buying land there and settling agentinians and just keep goin buy the housesw buy the farms and put agrentians there who have a lot of kids. Tye falkland population is a small number of aging boomers
>>542046033About 600 kilometers of the South Atlantic, right next to the Drake Passage, where the water is never warmer than 10c and the average wave height is never less than 2-3m. Argentina is not actually close to the Falklands. Buenos Aires is further from Port Stanley than Warsaw is from Poland.>random immigration shit brought into conversation about the FalklandsEither mindbroken or a fucking bot lmao.
>>542046046>than Warsaw is from Poland*than Warsaw is from Dublin.
>>542046023Falklands history is fun and complicated. It looked roughly like this.1. French guy lands on the island.2. British guy lands on other island. For a while they are not even aware of each other.3. France has settlement on one island Britbongs on the other.4. France gives their island to the Spanish because of reasons.5. Britbogs say nuh uh all islands are ours and almost go to war with Spain. But don't in the end.6. In 1774 British are like, fuck this there's nothing here, let's leave for now. But they literally leave behind sign saying "Oi, dis ours don't touch".7. Spain sat on the islands until 1811 then also decided it's not worth any time.8. There's lot of fuckery happening about, even Germans show up for a moment.9. United Provinces of the Río de la Plata declare independence from Spain, and lay claim to all their holdings. Including islands.10. Brits are like fuck no, it's all ours. Saint Luis is settled. United Provinces are now Argentina and are expelled.11. Then nothing much happens for 100 years but Argies come back and Falklands War happens.
>>542045979What sort of retarded argie weed do you need to be stroking to believe this? Argentina's entire claim to the area is "BECAUSE I SAID SO, AND I'LL CRY IF YOU SAY NO!".
>>542046037That was the whole reason for the invasion in the first place, they were trying to distract from problems at home. Its the same reason for every other time they rant about the subject.
>>542045992>It's not permanent and will eventually be overturnedJust like outer space, it is simply not feasible to overturn the ban.
>>542046015Like I said, it doesn't take a genius to realize when he's actually doing retarded shit vs. when he's just saying retarded shit to make people mad. Thank you for illustrating. People acting like he's really going to invade Greenland or that we're a mere penstroke away from the destruction of NATO are gullible fucking idiots. That doesn't mean Trump doesn't actually do crazy shit, obviously, but you should be able to tell what's bluster by now.This? This is bluster. We're not stabbing the UK in the back for fucking Argentina. But boy does saying we might stir shit up like no tomorrow, just the way this trolling old fuck likes to do
>>542046048Watched a history oversimplified video on youtube about this years and years ago. I recall it being pretty neatAlso this vid which was amusinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C9hxsRO7pI
>>542046040What has the royal navy done to stop russian ships from sailing around british waters?
>>542046024>functioning wellfare systemHahahahaha
>>542046017>uzi/sten/mac mashup>can diameter matches receiver>folded stock becomes bretty gud vfgneat
the current argentinian navy is sad to look at. lithuania has arguably a bigger and better force. it's no wonder chink trawlers plough their fish stocks with impunity. they would have absolutely no chance against the royal navy, even post brexit royal navy in freefall
>>542045871>Let's just annex territories we don't controlThis is the worst meme in modern war/politics.
>>542046058after 2022 and ukraine i'm much more open to the idea that heads of states don't always act out of cold pragmatism. expect the unexpectable.
>>542045936>If Russia is so concerning, why doesn't the US increase THEIR defense spending? Why is it up to Europe?>uh why should Europeans have to build up their militaries just because Russia is invading their neighbors and launching hybrid warfare attacks in Europe? Why are Europeans such houseniggers?
>>542046060what?
>>542045930>>542045935>>542045936>>542045942There is the issue that unless you are openly and loudly racist, specifically white nationalist in the US or your particular brand of nationalist in Europe, you can't address the real problem. Blacks cost the US a trillion bucks a year in entitlements. Spics cost the US a trillion bucks a year in entitlments. Jews are a net loss without even accounting for the bullshit they pull domestically or via Israel. The shitskins in Europe are an even bigger loss per capita according to the limited data we can get from European governments which try to obfuscate the issue at every opportunity. If you want to afford real militaries or even have the US pay for yours the only option is to be white supremacist and just kick out all the scum, or kill them, or anything other than what is currently being done. That of course is unacceptable to all the parties involved including Trump. Even the cuckservatives who want a military exist almost solely as a rearguard action against racial nationalism. And the leftists honestly and openly advocate national suicide for one reason or another, mostly weird moralist racial masochism. It's going to come down to civil war, kill all the non-whites and the problems vanish instantly and that has become so clear that nobody can deny it anymore.
>>542046061Can Argentina join new pact after rejecting BRICS membership?
>>542045955Libtard politicians in Britain are busy giving away the Maldives at a loss. They are paying the Maldives to be independent despite there being zero meaningful political impetus for it from the Maldives itself. This shit is all about socially signalling how sorry they are for daring to have once been a Great Power and wascist or something.>>542045942>>542046029Trump may be a retarded jew-lover but he can still report facts handed to him by intelligence assets. Take a good look at those self-assured krauts mogging for the cameras, probably hoping libtard krauts at the time would screen cap it. "Oh that Trump, suggesting that Russia might use its political influence over us to delay any support we could give to say Ukraine if the Russia were to attempt an incursion into its territory.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGjk-TwiXJQAny sympathy anyone has for Germany getting fucked out of gas from both sides is misplaced.
>>65484114>the whole of Europe would need more than 2% to beat the russiansthe increase in defense spending last year was more than the entire russian defense budget
>>542046015>US energy shifting from renewables to coal then.>shifting from the thing was was porkbarrel project by Obongo's administration which didn't actually do anything, didn't produce more energy, and wasted public funds to the existing businesses which had been doing fine for decades until said nigger n' chief tried to make their very existence impossible via regulations which were never voted forftfyThose same regulations intended to make internal combustion engines illegal to manufacture for commercial or private use by 2030 by arbitrarily requiring them to have higher energy efficiency than electric alternatives by a factor of about 5 which if you know high school thermodynamics is physically impossible.
>>542045871Sheeeit
>>542045871What is it with brown third worlders and retard irredentism?
>>542047777Your current gvt supports Israel, Russia, and ArgentinaThat's why things are changing
>>542047892Argentina unlike those other two doesn’t even have a military
>>542045871>could Argentina take the Falklandslol nothe UK would crush themagentina has not been in a serious war by themselves against another country in over 100 yearsthey don't have the equipment, manpower or experiencethe last time argentina tried to take the over the falklands by force it was a disaster for them
>>542048161>>542048301They have the full US military might behind them.
>>542048693lmao
>>542045871they don't have to do anything. trump can the declare the falklands the trumplands and no one will do shit other than send a strongly worded letter and monitor the situation. these islands are off the coast of south america which is controlled by the usa. yes its that simple in 2026. we are back in attila the hun times. normies used to living in a safe well regulated cuckworld are in for a rude awakening
>>542048863I'm sorry bong bro, but that's the truth. We are irrelevant next to Israel's will. Our tiny marines can't do shit. You need to merge with australia and canada asap if you want to stand a chance.
>>542049036If this happened a year ago I might be worried about the Americans. Now they're on month 7 of the 3 day operation to regime change Iran
>>542048693Don't believe everything Trump says. Tomorrow he's liable to threaten to nuke France off the face of the Earth if they don't rename the baguette after him. Doesn't mean you should start packing up your shit.
>>542045877Austria has a claim on Argentina over our Habsburg heritage (they used to own Argentina).
>>542045871>Realistically, could Argentina take the Falklands? Yes>How would YOU do it, given the forces at Argentina's and Britain's disposal?Flood the island with South American nigger refugees, all male aged 25 and below. Let nature take its course, all British residents will be raped to death or outright murdered. Have the niggers vote to join Argentina in a rigged election. Kill all niggers and send in castiza colonists.Simple as. If it works as Israel is doing it to the British homeland, it will work on a remote island.
>>542045871>Realistically, could Argentina take the Falklands? How would YOU do it, given the forces at Argentina's and Britain's disposal?Yes, it's not the 1980s anymore. Argentina isn't any more militarily capable than they were back then, but Great Britain is noticeable less competent, and I don't think they even have any major ships anymore. No way the UK could project power to the falklands
the 1994 reform of the constitution does not allow armed conflict for the malvinas dispute so nothing is going to happen. what i found funny is so many bongs already thinking about war after they got scolded by trump by not helping in the iran war
>>542048301>UK would crush themNeither side could hold it, as navies are useless in the age of drones.
>>542046019>quads>...>there is no quadsis this what goes on outside of this board? people pretending theyre in a secret retard club after escaping reddit, where there is no shills and jeets for miles?
>>542048693If Trump did everything he said he was going to do Greenland would already be a U.S. territory. Nothing will happen
>>542045871>Two countries with no money for armed forces, having a war over an island. >One country is geographically closer>One country can draw a longer line of credit. It would be a shitshow. It would also either make or break Britain as an international power. The outcome of Britain's effort to field a naval force and successfully beat Argentina back and retake the island would determine wether it would have a presence at all in military affairs going forward. We might end up becoming a kind of Switzerland. I personally don't think we could do it, not because the Argies are particularly formidable, but because fielding a naval fleet and deploying them across the world to battle another Navy is something we don't have the money or manpower (or lets face it, ships for). but maybe it's one of those moments in history where the crisis you can't handle turns you into a power that can handle it. Kind of like how Japan was a limited power until the Russo-Japanese war and then suddenly became someone you didn't fuck with..by being fucked with.
>>542059161It might surprise you but our navy today is better than it was then (it was in a really fucking sorry state) and everything Argentina has is worse. It wouldn't even be as close a run thing as the last time. Their most capable combat ships are the same fucking ones they had then, one of which sank in port.
>>542046020Comfy
>>542045871>RealisticallyNo.
>>542045871I would fill it with pakis and other muslims until they concede the territory without a fight then i would nuke it
>>542064180It's already full of jeets, zimbabweans, filipinos, etc. I laugh when people think the Fucklands are majority white. Most kelpers are old people
>>542064655A better question what do you plan to vote for after Milei?Don't tell me you people plan to vote right again
>>542045871>How would YOU do itI'm sorry, as much as I support Milei... few things are as retarded as Argentina's claim on Falkland islands. Those islands have belonged to British since before Argentina even existed. The island aren't even that close to Argentina ffs, they look close on the map but it's more than just a long swim. It's not abnormal for countries to have territory that's not adjacent to their main territory. And perhaps the most important thing... people live there, nigga. They have lived there for generations.To be fair to Milei, his move is not so much about the islands, but the surrounding area being used for oil extraction. He's making a move to not allow Sea Lion Project roam freely around Argentinian waters just to take the oil that was found there. That's a bit more defensible than taking the islands.
>>542047777checked and learned new word pilled
>>542065588>Don't tell me you people plan to vote right againWell......
>>542063716wtf I thought Italy's IQ was higher
