Why are we so bad at making things now?
>>542049567We are a consumer based economy now. We like to buy things pre made. Other countries don’t care about slave labor so they can pump out shit for cheap.
>>542049567How does making things make line go up?This is an economic sector; the bare minimum is all you need to be happy and productive.
>>542049567How come pigeons stayed in the stone age?
>>542049567>wewho is we
The intricate, nuances economic factors which led to the destruction of American manufacturing, the offshoring, and eventually the return of a few of those industries, will never be recognized in US politics. Like with everything, everything just gets distilled down to a talking point that appeals to idiots, and the unpopular policies which our nation depend on for it's existence get painted as "perpetrated by democrats" or whatever.What it all ultimately comes down to is that communists do not pay to live because they've rooted corruption out of their country. No more landlords. No more mortgages. No hunger. No poverty.Therefore, without any cost of living to burden their pocketbooks, they can work for far less.These are the "cheap wages" we paint as "slave labor" in western propaganda. Because we just brainwash everyone to believe the opposite of facts. "Freedom is slavery" here in the west, according to our propaganda.Meanwhile, Americans face huge costs of living, which just go up and up due to our opposition to price controls, which would disadvantage the wealthy and end the free markets. People have to pay huge amounts of money to live, therefore employing factory workers here became un-economical. You want to pay 3000 dollars for a new, low end television? 10K for your new iphone? The difference in cost can be this staggering.Therefore, everything went overseas. Manufactured in China, where people are free, don't pay bills, don't have to worry about these exorbitant living costs.
>>542049820ayyyyoooooooo. that ai, bro
>>542049567Pigeons, aka rock doves, nest in cliff faces and "nest" with twigs that stop their eggs from rolling over. Because they do not nest in trees, it is unnecessary for them to build intricate woven nests.But you're an uneducated retard and that bird is one of the most prolific and successful animals on the planet.
>>542049820Pigeons actually live on rocky cliffs and do not build nests; they simply lay down some sticks so the eggs don't roll off.
>>542050022You're alright kraut-anon
>>542049853>>542049567You further have to understand, if you look at US politics, it was democrats who opposed this all through the 1980s. Democrats who were telling people "well, let's just reform our policies in order to make these costs of living more manageable" and republicans who would not do so.Then, when Clinton (a very moderate dem, but with a republican congress) became president, the problem was exacerbated to the point where no one in washington realistically wanted to put off the offshoring of US jobs any longer. It became clear we were going to depend on this policy for the future of our nation.Republicans were never going to cave, and reform our economic policies, and democrats therefore had to give in, too.Thus you have policies like NAFTA, which were Reagan policies opposed by dems through the whole 1980s, which Bill Clinton (who is not a guy I'm inclined to defend in general, mind you) not gets the blame for. This is the US propaganda, too, where people are just indoctrinated to blame democrats for everything unpopular in the west.
>>542049853>>542050054Now, manufacturing is returning a little bit, because China has become the economic powerhouse of this globe and we're facing a completely different geopolitical context, and the US is necessarily forced to take actions it did not want to take previously. Who were Americans brainwashed to credit for the return of this manufacturing (which actually has nothing to do with partisanship)? Republicans. Of course. You will always be brainwashed, in the west, to blame democrats for your problems, and republicans for everything which goes right in your life.
>>542049567WE are brown.
>>542050020Bro, chill out. It's just a random image.
>>542050191Fuck you retard, I bet that pigeon could kick your ass in chess.
>>542049853>What it all ultimately comes down to is that communistsYOU FUCKING RETARD OFFSHORING IS THE MOST OBVIOUS FUCKING EXAMPLE OF CAPITALIST PROFITEERING POSSIBLE
>>542049820>Uses shitIs that an indian birb?
>>542049567Melanin
>>542050222Are you autistic or something? Why do you love pigeons so much? They shit everywhere and steal your food.
>>542050252Oh whoops I should have read the rest of that
>>542049567we (the boomers) outsourced it all and now it is too expensive to do here
>>542050022thanks, very interessting and here I thought pigeons were the niggers of birbs
>>542050020Thx for defending the pigeon; I find them fascinating birds, appreciate their presence in my city.
>>542049853>>542050054>>542050177Tl;dr instead of writing all this shit uou could have summed it up with "jews outsourced manufacturing and imported unskilled niggers for profit"
>>542050045kek, in the same second
>>542050252>>542050319No worries. I don't know why I even bothered to write all of that shit out. I'm just happy at least one person did read it, eventually. It's the truth, for what it's worth.
>>542050610You blame Jews for your own crimes, in order to hide the fact that you're ultimately the perpetrators behind these problems. You blame Jews to protect the wealthy and powerful. You also epitomize exactly what I wrote about the topic:>The intricate, nuances economic factors which led to the destruction of American manufacturing, the offshoring, and eventually the return of a few of those industries, will never be recognized in US politics. Like with everything, everything just gets distilled down to a talking point that appeals to idiots, and the unpopular policies which our nation depend on for it's existence get painted as "perpetrated by democrats" or whatever.This is all you people do here on this board, anyhow, just protect the wealthy and powerful. Usually with the famous Jewish scapegoat.
>>542049567pigeons can hit 100mph while flying, they don't have time to make fucking fancy fag nests, they are smart enough to lay them where the weather handles the hatching
>>542049820Human women btfo. Bird bros you don't know how good you got it.
>>542050655What occurs to me is that the advocates of pro-labor policies almost universally cannot avoid shooting themselves in the foot by insisting on pairing it with social progressivism that alienates people. I'm sure there's some cohort of people who are genuinely, ideologically pro-"free market" but for most people who vote Republican (including most people who identify themselves as pro-free market) what that actually means and where that's actually coming from, viscerally, is opposition to cosmopolitan social policies. "I hate commies" is coming less from the prefrontal cortex than the hindbrain in not wanting to be surrounded by brown people towards whom one is obliged to genuflect, or to be lectured about patriarchy, or to put picture books featuring gay couples in kindergartens, or whatever. That the two things became inseparable was, I believe, a deliberate cultural engineering effort to delegitimize the pro-labor economics by association; Gloria Steinem was literally a CIA asset and much of the "New Left" had the same origins. Now after 50 years of mass immigration labor is structurally divided along ethnic lines, and while the motive for importing them was ultimately a cynical economic calculation for cheap labor and cheap growth it was mostly the Democrats who provided the indispensable cultural cover to delegitimize opposition to it as "racist"
>>542049820The pigeons we see in cities are domesticated livestock that we just released into the wild once they were powerscaled by chickens.They never needed a nest because we made them for them.
>>542049567We outsourced thinking and doing for (((cheap))) goods.
>>542049567reminder that pigeons do this because they are stressed the fuck out by their environmental conditions
>>542049567I love berbs look how proud he be
>>542049820how is he so fast?
>>542051705The "pairing it with social progressivism" thing, as you describe it, is just you. This is just your propaganda. Your US and western indoctrination. It's how you keep people from voting for the economic policies which benefit them.You use culture wars to distract the public from class politics.All the "wokeness" is funded by you, to keep people voting for you. The mass immigration is for your capitalism, which in fact relies upon it. The zionism is for your oil imperialism, which relies up on it. Everything in this nation, which you people complain about on the right, is just your own policy, which the United States MSM and political establishment brainwash the public to blame "the left" for.Everything. You're the absolute fucking worst, and your comment here epitomizes it.
Digitalisation and computer power have sapped the brain power of the people that use them. Back when you had only pen and paper you actually had to understand your work. Thats why im not surprised that all the major technological feats happened 60 years ago.
>>542052393>>542051705Everything you wrote here >>542051705, one must understand, is like the epitome of the United States government, MSM cable news, billionaire-owned-internet-platform-feed narrative and propaganda. Everything you wrote is precisely what Americans are being brainwashed and indoctrinated to believe about politics. Forgive me if I cannot mask my disgust for these comments.
>thread about American manufacturing>devolved into discussion about birds
>>542050020>t. seething pigeontard
>>542050020>>542050022what about wood pigeons?
>>542049567> Why are we so bad at making things now?>weSpeak for yourself, my workshop is beyond stocked.
>>542052573Are you building the second ark?
>>542052492Sorry /pol/chud. this is an /an/ thread now
BIRDS!?
>>542052393Oh, you're that guy
>>542052653how is his neck bigger than his head?
>>542052626I launched that one back in '19. I'm building a 32' tug these days. It's going to be my Great Loop boat.
>>542050054>You further have to understand, if you look at US politics, it was democrats who opposed this all through the 1980s. Democrats who were telling people "well, let's just reform our policies in order to make these costs of living more manageable" and republicans who would not do so.excuse me, go fuck yourself.it was BILL FUCKING CLINTON who kicked this shitstorm off with NAFTA.remind me, anon, was BILL FUCKING CLINTON a democrat or a republican?eat shit and die you fuckwit.
In order for the capitalistic society to stay alive, it has to constantly keep growing.Once it stops growing, it eats itself and collapses.So, in order not to stop growing, you are here to buy an expensive car that for every part you have to go to the dealership. Buying new washing machine every few years. Just when you managed to equip your home with everything you need, the first thing breaks, so the cycle begins again.
>>542052932Wait, if you can sail around the East Coast like that, doesn't that make it an island?
>>542052936Read the whole comment before you respond, you idiot:>Thus you have policies like NAFTA, which were Reagan policies opposed by dems through the whole 1980s, which Bill Clinton (who is not a guy I'm inclined to defend in general, mind you) not gets the blame for. This is the US propaganda, too, where people are just indoctrinated to blame democrats for everything unpopular in the west.
>>542052786Oh, so this has been explained to you in the past by people here, but you were just willfully pushing western MSM narratives you knew were completely fictional, in order to promote the political interests of republicans. Interesting. Interesting.
>>542053213>>542052786You are all, in fact, completely, willfully full of shit here. Complete propagandists.
>>542049567Profit maximisation. Simple as.
>>542053138No. Because the land isn't disconnected. It's rivers and locks and shit.
>>542053144yeah, i read your drivle.your framing is an attempt to warp the fabric of reality to fit your shit-tier narrative.bill clinton signed nafta into law.ronald reagan didn't.neither did bush.bill fucking clinton did.get fucked, retard.
>>542052554All pigeons build poor nests compared to other birds, but they also have other survival strategies, such as crop milk.
>>542049567Diversity and feminism.
>>542051773it makes me sad to think about, it's like a bunch of domesticated dogs just got released into the wilderness. For the most part Mother Nature is acting like one big meat grinder on this group of pets. They have just enough survival instinct left that with a lot of luck they can manage to live long enough to reproduce.People point and laugh, calling them retarded, but we made them that way and we've abandoned them.
>>542053138> doesn't that make it an island?Interesting thought anon.
>>542050266>thinks it's shitExcuse me, but that would be curry shits if it were shit. Did you have a purpose in displaying this lack of understanding?
>>542049567>Why are we so bad at making things now?You ask this, but post a picture of the most ambitious pigeon nest I've ever seen, while simultaneously ignoring that even the worst nest-building pigeon would still make a better programmer than a jeet.
>>542053213No, you just make this point over and over again and are very obtuse about brooking any criticism of it, even when it's well intended. I suspect you're autistic
>>542049567>weSomeone get this pigeon off the board.
