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They don't want you to know about the Trivium and the Quadrivium.
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Every single time you shill the self masturbatory slop of some roman self help writer everyone who studied intro to philosophy 101 has heard of ad nauseam
does this make you feel smart?
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>>542061290
fuck off Abdul
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>>542060964
Whom is "they"?
What will this new found knowledge unlock for the masses?
I understand you like to make a lot of threads but making them more informative might help. Unless being helpful is the opposite of what you want to do which wouldn't surprise me.
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bump
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>>542061290

Erm rude
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shitty ad
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I'm more of an Octavian, myself. Its more. And more is always better.

I'd encourage everyone to join my thread if they want to learn more.
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>>542060964
linky
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>>542062071

https://archive.org/details/the-trivium-the-liberal-arts-of-logic-grammar-and-rhetoric-sister-miriam-joseph

https://annas-archive.gl/md5/42f782ad0296196d17937958b3bb9466
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>>542060964
Know all about it
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Probably more use to talk about how the Prussian model f'd everything up
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>>542060964
Why should I care about these books?
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>>542062969
Not necessarily those books, but the Trivium and the Quadrivium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOcy6RHw7A8
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>>542063209
fixed
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https://archive.org/details/cu31924030324994/mode/1up
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https://archive.org/details/TheSecretTeachingsOfAllAgesManlyHall/page/n577/mode/1up
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https://archive.org/details/TheSecretTeachingsOfAllAgesManlyHall/page/n588/mode/1up
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>>542063209
Thanks anon, good to see of the old red ice stuff still floating around on yt.
Red ice used to have a massive esoteric online book section on the website, not sure if its paywalled or they got rid of it.
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I can't imagine being such a jaded fucking coombrained cheetos-eater as the people on here. Keep drinking mouthwash.
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>>542060964
Antisemite!!! The Kaballah is the only thing that matters!
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Anyone curious about studying the Trivium should start with Sister Miriam's book. It will give you a good preview & overview of what you'll be studying at length & in depth. After reading that, if you're up for it, it's time to go deeper into grammar, logic, and rhetoric.


Some books on general grammar and Latin grammar:

The Study of Language by George Yule
https://archive.org/details/georgeyulethestudyoflanguage2017cambridgeuniversitypress

Analyzing Grammar by Paul Kroeger
https://welib.org/md5/32159ba85b27eaac7ef0d8e00e36b86d

An 1848 English grammar book designed to highlight general grammar:

https://classicalliberalarts.com/resources/Arnold_An_English_Grammar_for_Classical_Schools.pdf

Latin Via Ovid: A First Course (2nd edition) by Goldman & Nyenhuis
https://z-library.sk/book/qgjG7PDMjW/latin-via-ovid-a-first-course.html

Gildersleeve's Latin Grammar (3rd edition) by B. L. Gildersleeve & G. Lodge
https://archive.org/details/gildersleeveslat00gild

Bradley's Arnold Latin Prose Composition
https://archive.org/details/bwb_P9-ATC-257

continued..
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>>542065684
continued...

Some books on traditional Aristotelian logic:

Socratic Logic by Peter Kreeft
https://archive.org/details/peter-kreeft-socratic-logic

Logic: The Art of Defining and Reasoning by John Oesterle
https://z-library.sk/book/8vlaq9B0Oe/logic-the-art-of-defining-and-reasoning.html

Introduction to Logic by H. W. B. Joseph
https://archive.org/details/introductiontolo00jose

The Organon by Aristotle
https://z-library.sk/book/QOPkrXaxvX/works-of-aristotle-v-2-vol-ii-the-organon.html

https://classicalliberalarts.com/aristotles-organon/

Only after you have thoroughly mastered Aristotelian logic should you go on to study modern formal logic, but when you do, I recommend these two books:

First Course in Mathematical Logic by Patrick Suppes

Logic: The Laws of Truth by Nicholas J. J. Smith


Some books on classical rhetoric:

Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student by Edward Corbett
https://archive.org/details/classical-rhetoric-for-the-modern-student/

Rhetoric by Aristotle
https://z-library.sk/book/1RQaWpE0Rx/aristotles-art-of-rhetoric-translated-and-with-an-interpretive-essay.html

The Rhetorica ad Herennium
https://archive.org/details/adcherenniumdera00capluoft

Progymnasmata: Greek Textbooks of Prose Composition and Rhetoric
https://z-library.sk/book/Y1RQq6ApRx/progymnasmata-greek-textbooks-of-prose-composition-and-rhetoric.html

That should keep you busy for the next few years.
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Academic Agent is spamming /pol/?
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>>542065900
Kek. No. I haven't ordered any of his courses. Too expensive. You can study on your own if you have enough self-discipline and interest in these subjects.
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>>542060964
Do you know Mark Passio?
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>>542060964
>Be Swedish pseud
>Make logico-philosophical threads
>Bring forth specific topic to start the conversation
>People argue against his initial point
>He spergs out
>Use every logical fallacy in the book
>Pick another topic the next week hoping nobody notices
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>>542066067
Don't forget to use code oofbrutal for a discount.
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>>542060964
KYS Neema you'll never be a white man.
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>>542066301
Now get out!
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>>542066121
yes
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https://chromatone.center/practice/sound/monochord/
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>>542060964
A classical education is beyond worthless and is exactly the type of education that evolved into the equally worthless general liberal arts degree. You can’t use it for anything, but you will be used for others as you search for some sort of meaning for the years you’ve wasted.
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>>542068257

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAp8hX0U-jw
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Masons are taught the importance of the seven liberal arts and sciences during their initiation.
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>>542065900
I’ve only seen a little bit of him, but from what I’ve seen I struggle to understand why anyone would ever care about his opinion.
>The iron law of oligarchy
Ah yes, what an astute observation. Next you’ll tell me that grass is green and rain is wet.
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>>542068421
Yes, in the second degree.

https://sacred-texts.com/mas/sof/sof28.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvYaOtciyfk&t=18430
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>>542068385
Completely wrong. The purpose of a classical education was not the education itself but the connections you, or rather your sons, could make with other hopefully affluent kids. When it was brought to the masses it had lost all meaning except for scamming the stupid and anxious middle class out of their money.
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>>542068671
No, the purpose of a classical education is to liberate you by moving your mind into the realm of pure eternal ideas. This has been the privilege of a small percentage of the population. The rest has deliberately been deprived of it in order to enslave them.

https://www.zhibit.org/diemythographer/die-mythographer-die/occasional-letter-number-one-2006

https://archive.org/details/greatconversatio030336mbp

https://archive.org/details/sayers1948losttoolslearning

https://archive.org/details/TheUndergroundHistoryOfAmericanEducation_643

https://archive.org/details/pdfy-SYN9t0cHh1aFu8XV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZp7eVJNJuw
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Most Catholic schools still teach using classical education methods and have defended the right to private education in America since the start. Obviously, Catholics have no problem with the idea of public schools (as in "education should be available for all"), but "for some reason" the early argument FOR public schools was always paired with banning private religious schools. Unfortunately, you will be hear instead: "Catholics hated public education cause they didn't wanted anybody to be smart, and they don't want nobody to read The Bible at all." and then you will send your kids to public rainbow school to be taught leftist propaganda by some faggot satanic communist. Realistically, this thread will most likely descend into: "Catholics were the ones who hid the trivium!" even though the Church was the only place one could learn it in Europe for almost a thousand years. And no, nobody is hiding it from anyone, it's just not taught in public schools because public schools are about teaching social cohesion to future laborers and funcopop collectors.
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>>542071262
Nope, the purpose of public school has since its inception been to suppress the Trivium for the masses.
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>>542061290
The intellectual standards of classical education are much higher than modern schooling. Pic 8th grade exam from 1912.
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>>542071621
The idea of it is not suppressed or hidden. That would be like saying: "Public schools are suppressing horticulture and animal husbandry!", they aren't hiding it by not teaching it. Do they teach the trivium? No. In the early years the focus was on the liberal arts, but as I said, public schools in the modern era are about learning enough of the basics to fall into social conditioning through the press, the media, and the norms of your peers, in order that you to become a generic member of society and become stuck in the paradigms of modern values. Am I arguing for the superiority of public schools? No. However, the trivium is not some magical hidden thing either, it is just an early method of teaching that is nowhere near hidden, and the subject matter of it is available for anyone to learn at any time just like horticulture or animal husbandry.
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>>542060964
Have a bump my Nordic Aryan handsome brother.
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>>542072767
stfu, I'm going to sleep, no time to argue with oblivious fools like you, drink your mouthwash retard
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>>542072637
Classical education doesn't just mean old. There is no geography in classical education.
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>>542073359
>i can't allow any disagreement or discuss it, you just must believe [things i say]
>j-just assume that you are completely under control on all fronts by a superior force, please
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>>542061290
hey look it's (You)
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>>542060964
idk anon. I obtained "The Trivium" after your thread yesterday. About 62 pages in and my impression is that it is mostly common sense.
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>>542060964
Exactly.
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>>542068257
Excuse me, retard, but the term “liberal arts” itself originally referred to the seven disciplines as described by the Trivium and Quadrivium. What you yourself refer to as the “liberal arts” is the globohomo elite’s corruption of the term’s original meaning.
Your point is so ass-backwards that in actuality you are arguing against yourself.



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