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>in 2004 this was considered standard-fare slop
>in 2026 this would be considered among the greats JUST for not casting Somalians as greek heroes

grim...
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>>542078364
Nah, it was considered pretty damn good when it came out. I remember because im not a zoomer like you
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>>542078364
Brad Pitt is just a very good actor desu (charismatic, draws you in, etc.). I don't know why Nolan went with Matt Damon of all people as his lead. Bizarre choice.
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>>542078451
Ben Affleck owes everyone an apology for Matt Damon in general.
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>>542078364
if they allowed a good movie to be made, it would make the other movies look even worse.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pov0MKuyJfg&ra=m
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>>542078442
Nolan's Odyssey is sitting at 94% 'Universal Acclaim' btw
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>>542078364
>in 2004 this was considered standard-fare slop

It had to follow both the LotR trilogy and Gladiator

Nothing short of flawless execution was going to make it stand out in the "fantasy/historical action" genre
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>>542078662
meanwhile in 2026 all they have to beat is picrel and they cant even do that
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>>542078364
That movie is also subversive filth. No gods, they constantly insult the concept of the gods, the concept of monarchy, constant hate for every Greek that isn't Achilles/Patroclus/Odysseus, while Trojans are largely lionized.
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>>542078733
Can't wait for her to wall out so they can stop shoving her into absolutely everything
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>>542078798
A. Agamemnon did nothing wrong
B. Parris makes the Trojans look like massive pussies

a thorough greek W
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>>542078578
Fucking nobody gave a shit about online rating sites back then. We used this low tech thing called word of mouth
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>>542078798
the trojans flouted their piety, theres literally a greek known to history that drew blood from both ares and aphrodite, achilles damning apollo is about as close to reality as you can get without putting on a 10 hour watch
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>>542078868
kek this she's so fucking laughably ugly
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>>542078798
>why won't they honor my dead gods
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>>542078798
>Trojans are largely lionized
historically the trojans have always been lionized, the fucking romans claimed they were descendants of troy.
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>>542078364
It was one of the last great epic hollywood films like Alexander before the Hobbit tier slop took over
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>>542079015
These ratings are FROM back then retard. Take your L and fuck off
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Big fans of the movie, please tell me honestly: Did you akshually like Matt Damon as the lead?
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>>542079162
I really like Alexander, even with the fag stuff, but the last epic movie was Apocalypto if my memory doesn't fail me.
>>542079263
I like him in The martian, but no.
Bourne's movies ages bad, especially in the action scenes.
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This movie was shit but the cast was kino
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It's a good movie, actually.
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>>542079382
Apocalypto was privately funded and produced outside of Hollywood.
They wanted nothing to do with it.
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>>542079564
So 300 was the last one.
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>>542079382
I mean like epic films from Ben Hur or Waterloo where you have tons have real actors for epic periods in history or mythology. These movies died in the 00s and Alexander and Troy are one of the last.
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>>542079706
washington was pretty good
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I watched it right after I had read the Illiad so I didn't like it but in hindsight it's leagues better than the Odyssey because it doesn't have shit like pic related and the props aren't shit
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>>542079802
>washington
I'd never heard of it.
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>>542078364
True

I was in high school when this movie came out... People were laughing at it for having Brad Pitt talking in that accent

Now it's considered good lol
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>>542079838
What movie is this? Why are they attacking that woman?
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>>542078442
That acclaim was retarded since The Dark Knight.
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>>542079838
wtf are those outfits

shit looks retarded
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Not really. Was media ever worth a shit, no. Should you ever have looked at it. No. Shoukd anyone reply to Plopjeet superpoor shill OP’s from turdy fingered wretches? No. They should slide away.
The funny thing is 300 poos, 300 poohammeds and some mixed race pedophiles are all screeching at each other thinking that they are talking to white people here.
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>>542078578
Means absolutely nothing
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>>542078364
It's absolute pure kino from start to finish. The dialogue is otherworldly. And it has the single greatest 1v1 combat scene in all of the history of cinema. You can tell the director felt genuine inspiration from the source material. “The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal, because any moment may be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again.”
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>>542080278
Shittiest costumes and props
The money all went to the bloated cast, drone shots and marketing
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>>542078798
The real hero of the Illiad/ Trojan war is Hector
No movie gets this right
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>>542078733
Yet they didn't make her Helen, the most beautiful woman. That honor is bestowed on a greater ape
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This seems like a thinly veiled ad campaign for old odyssey
>there are two others that are famous and one of them is truly a classic of the classics but no one ever brings that up
>just sayian
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This 7 min edit of 2004's Troy by some random literally mogs the entirety of Nolan's abomination:
youtu.be/7CcnOQJ3D20
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>>542080405
Bro it's shit, it was a shit movie when it came out
Keep in mind this came out AFTER gladiator
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Every single late 90s and 00s action pop flicks is better than whatever we have nowadays
The mummy
Pirates of the Caribbean
Matrix
Ocean 11
National treasure
Fast and furious
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>>542078442
Naw. My friends called me a pleb for liking it in 2004 because "where was all the Gods and shit, not true Homer" etc etc it was considered Hollywood slop
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>>542081005
>Naw. My friends called me a pleb for liking it in 2004 because "where was all the Gods and shit, not true Homer" etc etc it was considered Hollywood slop
And you considered that your friends was huge faggots?
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>>542079706
Pretty much.
Marvel's "cinematic universe" started with Iron Man in 2008, so when that movie came out and the money rolled in, Hollywood stopped all side hustles and honed in on this long-term project.
All they wanted to support from then on was capeshit and the odd art film here and there.
This is also part of the reason why The Hobbit flopped. Peter Jackson was a last minute addition, Del Toro certainly had his vision, but both their visions were clashing hard with what the nepobaby at Warner Bros. was wanting them to do.
Dwarf-elf love story, Legolas in a story he isn't in just because "the women love Orlando Bloom".
They wouldn't give him prep time either, so there was virtually 0 pre-production.
You can't produce an epic without pre-production. LOTR had 3 years of it iirc.
They wouldn't even give him 1 year, and the Hobbit was a fiasco.
What did the Hollyjew do? "Well, I guess the people don't want epics anymore."

The reality is that Hollywood is dying and has been drying up for a very long time.
Quite a few production veterans from the business talk about the fact that all the digital work can easily be done from anywhere in the world so why not outsource it to a team in the Carolinas or in Boston or in Seattle, and how the Hollywood lots are all empty because nobody wants to use them anymore.
It's digital cinematography, if you have the right schedule, storyboard and infrastructure you can shoot on location and edit as you travel between locations, hypothetically, while the sound engineers are banging trash cans in an iso chamber somewhere on an industrial lot in a cheap state.

Nolan's Odyssey is the last attempt at an epic from Hollywood and it's a memetic failure. It hit the screen, it got a rating, it drew some money, and a month later nobody talked about it anymore outside of social media channels making fun of its atrocity.
Star Trek is dead too. They're planning to make a movie directed by comedy writers.
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>>542080776
The theatrical release was botched.
The director's cut is superior and highly rated.
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>>542078578
Rotten Tomatoes changed how things are rated a few years ago. Now only "verified" reviews are counted. You have to jump through hoops and prove you saw it in theaters. Fandango (who sell movie tickets) and Warner Bros. own Rotten Tomatoes, so obviously they want people going to see movies in theaters and want to limit the bad reviews.
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>>542081473
I am aware of this yet the truth is that the standards for cinema have plummeted so vastly that a mid-tier movie in the past would be considered the best of an era in today's world.
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3 billion dollars btw.



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