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Day 1,656 – Daily assessment: understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research

▶Latest
>russia returns to communism and begins seizing private companies they deem to be "extremist organizations".
>Ship, oil depot and S400 got blown up in Sochi
>SBU and HRU shooting at each other on the streets of Kyiv is a disgrace - Zelenskyy
>Today, an attempt was made on the life of Major General Nikolai Nikolaevich Varpakhovich, commander of the 22nd Heavy Bomber Aviation Division of the russian Aerospace Forces' Long-Range Aviation, he was shot in the head and stomach.
>Destruction of MiG-29 Fighter, Ka-27 Helicopter at Yeysk and Millerovo Airfields in russia
>Zelensky has warned russia that no part of the sky is safe, drones will be occupying all airspace around russia
>russia's starlink alternative has failed to reach the designated orbit and is expected to crash within the next few weeks
>Ukraine has officially submitted a request to the European Commission to purchase Patriot interceptor missiles at the cost of an EU loan of €90 billion. Kyiv is asking for more than €2 billion for this — “Suspilne”
>The russian complex "Novatek-Ust-Luga" was hit - GUR
>Germany officially blames Russia for drone attack attempt at Leipzig airport
>6th day of Kyiv drone chimpout
>Oil refinery "Kirishinefteorgsintez" (KINEF) in Leningrad Oblast got struck


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total zigger death
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>>542081930
Emergency retard bake.
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>>542081930
TZD
Bottom Text
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DEATH TO THE RUSSIAN PIDORATION
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TOTAL ZIGGER DEATH
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwh7CRPyqa8
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Total Zigger Death
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refinery in Ryazan taking a beating
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total zigger tanker death is part of TZD
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>KILL 100 more russians
>NO I Don't care if ukraine is destroyed and the land bought up by jews, I NEED RUSSIANS TO DIE
>NOW!!!!!!
what sick people you are to sit here for 5 years and cheer on a war between whites. go sign up yourself if you feel so strongly.
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>>542082376
you lost and no amount of squirming on a dead image board will change that
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>>542082414
russcattle must sniff
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TZD

a PSA to every lurking Z-patriot: please keep your phone charged, online, nearby, and set to notify.
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>>542082376
Be a dear and remind us of who started this war and for what specific purpose?
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>>542082414
>Hoohh look at this claim you lost okay don't worry about us lowering the final draft age to 18!
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>>542082414
>you lost
Russia is bombing Kiev (that's the capital city of the Ukraine, just to remind you, since you're so disconnected with reality) day and night now. With real bombs, not gay lawnmower engines attached to a mortar like the ukraine is doing.

>>542082525
Poroshenko because... well I don't know... maybe he's just a retard. Maybe jews paid him to the same way they bought off Churchill.
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>>542082500
>a summons has been issued
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>>542081930
TZD
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>>542082573
Oh, so Poroshenko drove tanks to Kyiv? He also carpet bombed civvies? Or did he force Pypa's hand?
Huh. You learn something new everyday.
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>be Russian
>get arrested
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>>542082573
Terror bombing Kyiv won't prevent the Russia's defeat, anon. Nothing can.
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>>542082064
Please understand, mudslines and their prophet suffer from an uncurable anal condition that only male semen can cure.
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>>542082591
Why on earth do you mongolpidors think this is an own over Ukies? You post pics and vids of Ukies getting drafted. Everyone else posts pics and vids of Puccians getting blown the fuck up.
Apparently those drafted Ukies are quite good at that job. And that job is TZD.
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Get used to a Westernizing world and unipolar order. The Russia lost.
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Zigger death must be total.
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Why are all the supposedly plebeian hohols normal good looking people while the average Pidarlik diaspora is pic related? I thought puccian were the greater race?
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>>542082677
>Terror bombing
okay what about blowing up warehouses where munitions are stored?
or surrounding infantry groups in the donbas who are just ordered to fight to the last ukranian because jew zelenskyy doesn't care if the goyim under his management die so long as he can extend the war to get a few more billions
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>>542082791
Pidors are on the retreat in Donbas.
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Bussy?
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>>542082791
Ukraine started this. They now reap the whirlwind. Soon you go into any grocery store and find the entire store empty. Its going back to buying bread from the back of a truck and soon bartering because ukriane has no economy. This pig adventure eventually had an end. Also our government decided not to fund this failed charity chase let the Europeans pay their last to cents to prop up a failed nazi state
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>all those seething (You)s
thanks
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>>542082923
>a failed nazi state
please shut up
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>>542082923
Ultracope.
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>>542082376
>between whites

Western Asians do not count as whites. Central Europeans like Ukrainians do.
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bensina nyet
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Without a doubt all russia supporters are brown. Either physically or mentally.
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>>542082923
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>>542082791
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>>542083115
Wowza. Crimean war propaganda
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>>542081930
TZD, kill all russniggers and russnigger-accessories.
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the silence of the pidors
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>>542082981
slavs are cockroach mutts you will never actually be white. this is why we finance your war, you die to weaken the zigger so its no longer a threat to nato or the west. learn your place.
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>>542082376
> to sit here for 5 years
Oh damn, are condoms like you (=russnigger-accessories) finally admitting the 3-day SMO didn't exactly go to plan?
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>>542083498
>the 3-day SMO
who from Russia ever said it was supposed to take 3 days?
the same people who say that the average russian lasts 30 seconds on the battlefield?
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>>542082591
New people never get sent to the frontline. He gets to spend 6 months in a training camp, most likely in the UK or Germany before he even sees any combat. After that it's just sitting 50km behind the zero line and flying drones into russnigger asses all day.
You get bombed less as an Ukrainian soldier, than you do as an Ukrainian civilian.
He'll be fine and drown in pussy after the war.
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>>542083433
lmao stfu pajeet
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>>542083577
>who from Russia ever said it was supposed to take 3 days?
Russian state newspaper directly controlled by kremlin
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>>542083433
very weak d&c
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>>542083577
Retards like you said it. Would it make you feel better if I went with the "I can take Ukraine in 2 weeks" cope from Tzar gigafaggot Shelemova xerself?
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all russniggers must suffer
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>>542082818
Chihuahua flags, no matter the country, always give me a chuckle.
The Poland one is my favorite.
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>>542082525
>remind us of who started this war
In order of culpability...
1) The United States
2) Ukraine
3) Russia
4) European Union
5) China
6) BRICS
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>>542084332
Who invaded which country again?
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>>542084435
you don't get it, if russia hadn't invaded first then the anglo saxons would have invaded the nuclear power with the biggest military stock pile in the world!!!
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>>542082064
>>542082685
>P-please israel is b-based and hates mudslimes so abdicate your independent thought about what is g-going on in the middle east
Death to israel and zionist cocksuckers
We wouldn't have half the brownoids here jf nit for USraels ceaseless murder and terrorism
Pissraelis actively support and orchestrate the flooding of europe with hostile assholes from the regions they terrorize

Two things can be true at a time
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>>542084466
fucking anglo-saxons!
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>>542084332
your dog health?
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rumors are coming from witkoff-kushner visit to moscow
putnik demands the same things as always - ukraine to remove troops from 4 oblasts including kherson and zapo and give them to russia, no nato, no zelensky
basically the same things as in anchorage and for years nothing has changed
complete waste of time
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>>542084570
to the surprise of literally no one
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>>542084332
>In order of cope
>Hurr Amerikkka
You mental gymnastics faggots are almost impressive in your delusions.
It wasn't Abrams rolling towards Moscow with GI's in parade uniform in feb 2022, now was it.
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>>542084506
So we can well and truly say it's a conflict in which both sides are bad?
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>>542084435
>Who invaded which country again?
Ukraine started this war. Framing the question that way won't absolve Ukraine of culpability.

https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-russian-language-education-pop-culture-kyiv/a-74931328

The simple reality is, Ukraine's Jewish government went to war with its own people for geopolitical reasons. And in doing so, has turned the entire country into a concentration camp with half the population it started with(and would be even lower if they hadn't banned people from leaving).

>>542084624
You're retarded and clearly don't know what this war is about, or you're just a lying kike. Either way, fuck off.
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>>542084696
however
you are brown
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>>542083621
>triggered pollack
>>542083683
>triggered nazi
you should be thankful the real white men actually let your people back into the white fold after half your women were raped by ziggers
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>>542084696
The russia started this war
Crimea and Donbas are immutably Ukraine
>b-but that would kill the rasha
It should die so Ukraine can live, shrimple as a dimple

remember that the illiberal East is inherently evil and opposing it makes you automatically good
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>>542084696
499
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>>542084655
If you are stupid enough to say "bith sides bad" re: Ukraine v russia then you can indeed say that.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with rightly naming communism as a movement of hate.
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>>542084612
Yeah both of these retard clowns have to be the worst "diplomats" that ever walked the earth. They managed to stop exactly zero wars ever since Trump sent them around the world to fuck up everywhere, but instead got the US mired into yet another desert war we're losing right now. Jared literally just cares about how Israel can profit off of this, while Witkoff is a mouth drooling retard who overestimates his own charm, intelligence, and geopolitical knowledge of which he has none.
I can already tell you the end result: Both are gonna fly home empty-handed, then Trump goes gets asked by reporters about it until he goes "Well, my good friend Putin just called me and told me it's all Zelensky's fault. But I'm working on it."
I'm so fucking tired of this clown administration. If at least he was still funny...
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>>542084792
But that's not even remotely true here. Ukies are nice people.
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>>542084696
Not even some Nuland cope? Poor show. I can't even accept your concession like this, it's just way too sad.
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>>542084696
>Ukraine's territory gets invaded
>It's actually Ukraine who started the war

>Bob's home got invaded
>Bob defends himself
>It's actually Bob who forced Tyrone to invade his home

You fucks are unreal.
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>>542084841
Like the old moustache squared said, the one cure for a commie is a bullet.
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>>542084841
>bombili bombas
>vosim let
>muh donetsk children
a tale as old as time
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>>542084755
Europe didn't become a world power with liberalism you stupid fucking moron. It's hard to argue with someone who makes a sequence of assertions that are all intuitively false. I can only assume trolling.

>>542084749
>you are brown
Estonians are one step away from Finngolians.

>>542084841
>Ukraine's territory gets invaded
>It's actually Ukraine who started the war
You think Ukraine was at peace before 2022? Do you think France shouldn't have gotten involved in the American Revolution? Tell me about NATO's involvement in Kosovo, fucking kike.
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>>542084900
Funny how Crimean children didn't get bambili'd.

>NAFO troons are bambili children in Portugal
>We must defend our chuldren
>Okay, fine. As a gesture of good will, we'll settle down to half of Europe.
>Oh my fucking god, why are you war mongers not agreeing to our extremely generous terms?!

Puccians are a cancer.
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>>542084841
>It's actually Bob who forced Tyrone to invade his home
Campus liberal hags seriously claim this, by the way. To be a zigger is to be the same as those BLM retards.
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>>542084982
if it's not Western, it's for the trashbin of history
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>>542084982
>You think Ukraine was at peace before 2022?
Hey good point, the russniggeria should be forced to pay reparations for 2014 as well. We often forget that in public discourse.
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>>542084822
Do you have any idea about what kind of people ordinary Gazans and before that Palestinians were before decades of abduction, rape, abuse, incarceration, getting their hands amputated because settler-soldier subhumans tightened their cuffs to nectrotic pressures for hours and more?
I rate their fight the same way I rate the warsaw uprising and crimes committed then.
Were you or were Ukrainians subjected to decades of terrorism, assualt, theft and erasure yiu and they too would be barely hanging on to their humanity by a thread.
As in all the other things you deign to offer your beer-hall opinions on your arrogance is fetid and monstrous.
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>>542082864
>not carrying a blade for close combat
Hard to tackle someone when you've got 20 sucking chest wounds
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>>542084841
The reality is, Ukraine is fighting for Crimea. That's what the war is about. Crimea has wanted out of Ukraine since 1991. On what planet is Ukraine's war for Crimea just "defending their homeland".

Kikerainians want territory because they know that without the Russian-speaking regions they'll remain an impoverished shithole forever. Not only do they plan to take these territories by force, they essentially want to genocide the people living there(Ukrainization).

This idea that Ukraine is a victim is about as far from reality as could exist. The entire premise rests on "muh territorial integrity". Which is ironic because the same people screeching for the territorial integrity of Ukraine support Taiwanese independence, and Kosovo, and everything else that benefits them.

My position since 2014, when I barely knew Ukraine existed, is that Russia was in the right. I don't consider borders sacrosanct, and Kikerainians were behaving like tyrannical shitbags supported/funded by literal kikes.
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>>542084570
>>542084800
I do kinda wonder if there was "backroom diplomacy" during the visit. Used to be during the soviet times that the real discussions were held by nameless diplomats while the names took the attention.
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>>542085142
this shill is drunk and/or malfunctioning
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>>542085142
>Do you have any idea about what kind of people ordinary Gazans and before that Palestinians were

yes, rabid barbarians

>Were you or were Ukrainians subjected to decades of terrorism, assualt, theft and erasure

they were

race is real, and the one called Arabs is just a little bit acerbic, which is to say they are - on average - passionate bloodshed enjoyers
I'm sorry, Utopia just can't be real
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>>542085089
Russniggeria unironically should get invaded. Germany an Japan were. And that intervention fucked the Imperialism out of their systems. Now they're thriving democracies, rich and respected worldwide. Perfect? No. But hell of a lot better than the "Don't you understand? That genocide we committed was forced on us! They forced our hand by being inferior!".

Too bad the collective Wect is too pussy to do it due to phantom Nooks.
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>>542085263
>Crimea has wanted out of Ukraine since 1991.
Proofs?
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>>542085034
>if it's not Western
Can you even define "western"? Do you think you're "western" now? By what metric.

You people are so are so goddamn retarded.
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>>542085319
descendant of Rome and (barring a few exceptions) Rome-adjacent cultures
this category does not include muscovites, obviously
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>>542085263
Nice english, John hamburger from Oblast Ohio.

So, what kind of American are you anyway? You seem awfully concerned with Russia, technically your biggest geopolitical rival to get it's way. Funny that.
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>>542084800
There will probably be a buddy comedy about this in the future. Michael Cera as an oblivious presidential son-in-law and Ed Helms as the nervous broke real estate agent.
They fly around the world where Kushner tries to get funding for ever more unrealistic AI projects and Witkoff tries to sell shares of his time-share projects in Boca Raton. All this in front of increasingly more desperate state department personnel and the people suffering in the countries they visit.
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>>542085304
>Russniggeria unironically should get invaded
The tankieniggers on reddit and twitch will throw a fit and attempt to do terror attacks. Look at the retardation they tried with ICE alone.
Also good night. I wish the boys on the front to mow down ziggers by the hundreds.
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>>542084696
>t went to war with its own people for geopolitical reasons.
"hurr durr".
You fell for a foreign state narrative, moron. They pay hundreds of millions of dollars to make your brain all twisted. Let us ask Girkin shall we, the one man with balls in the entire nation.
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>>542085308
They declared independence then took it back after pressure from Russia.

>>542085361
>descendant of Rome and (barring a few exceptions) Rome-adjacent cultures
You think you're anything like Rome? Pull more shit out of your ass you fucking retard.

>>542085376
>Nice english
I don't think I even made a spelling or grammatical error. Which is unusual for me.

>>542085376
>So, what kind of American are you anyway?
I'm Pat Buchanan.
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>>542085488
Did you even read what Girkin said in that fucking article? Do you have any idea what Girkin is bitching about?
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>>542085263
>On what planet is Ukraine's war for Crimea just "defending their homeland".
This one
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>>542081930
what stalker artifact is this
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>>542085524
You obviously did not. Why don't you explain it to us, in at least 1000 words. Better than a cope oneliner out of desperation.
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>>542085319
Damn wtf can a Kenyon even do in da modern world. Or a woman it's just theater. And I love niggers as much as the next guy but be for real. It takes years of advanced technical education and then a decade of experience to contribute something to semiconductors or chipz.

Is my chocolate writing apps with Fable? What's a nigga ackutally gonna do with a job? They have jobs that require you to run for 12 miles an hour for two hours?
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>>542085494
I'm not just anything like Rome, my homeland retained its identity as a picturesque Roman province, with loads of vineyards, world class bread, and family enterprise. I live a Roman life, you plebeian nigger. That's what being in the West means.
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>>542085654
>red rocketz
>he diddles pooches
>wanted to marry his preteen niece
>not anymore, she has pubes now
>yuck
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since the Black Sea was settled by Greeks and resettled by Romans, it's a Western lake. Pidarmongolen have no legitimate claim.
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>>542082791

None of this will save you. You could leak and at least do some good. We know you hate the leash. But you're a fucking coward.
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>>542083587

None of those lies will save you.
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>>542085558
>Look at these things Putin said before a US-orchestrated coup overthrow the democratically-elected government
kys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZkfCozBUPQ

>>542085580
Here. Pic-related. I clipped the most relevant parts. As a homework assignment, explain what happened and what Girkin was actually mad about.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2014/11/21/russias-igor-strelkov-i-am-responsible-for-war-in-eastern-ukraine-a41598
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>>542085794
There's the lack of Ivan's courage on display. Russian faggots can numb themselves with vodka and run into machine gun fire or a drone swarm, but they have no real courage, as in ego self-defense. It's all just transactional pride with them, no different from pakijeets, ayyrabs, etc. Brown culture. They fail by it.
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>>542085639
>I live a Roman life
No you do not. There is ZERO relationship between your faggot atheist country and Rome. You're not even an independent power. You're literally occupied and vassalized by the United States. You're a cuck of a country and once Russia is out of the way, we will Morgenthau plan your retarded ass.
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>>542085891
fuck off retard
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>>542085818
>a US-orchestrated coup overthrow the democratically-elected government
There is a burden of proof here, tankie. Just saying shit is not enough. Tell us about chemtrails next.

>explain what happened and what Girkin was actually mad about.
A foreign intelligence agent under orders was part of a foreign plot to overthrow a legitimate government, even recognised by Putin, as was shown in the video. What he was "mad" about is of no fucking importance, maggot.

I would love to see you use this level of argument next time you are in court, Tyrone. You'd get add ons to your sentencing cause the WHITE judge won't fall for bollocks like that. In the real world, you actually need to produce valid evidence according to the standard of proof. You do not know what this means because of Dunning Kruger and you being literally born this fucking century, therefore retarded.
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>>542081930
TzD
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>>542085891
>There is ZERO relationship between your faggot atheist country and Rome.
Even less between russia and Rome, so that's that, you brown cunt. Thank you for the self ownage.
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the russia will simply break into a hundred or possibly more ugly little pieces
this is self-inflicted, not a judaic-mason-liberal-femoid-nacist plot
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>>542085818
>themoscowtimes
>am real amerikkkanski capitalist peeg patriotski
>our geopolitical rival should get everything they want
>in fact, we should return Alaska Oblast
>Russia is our ally and our everything

>change vpn
>I agree with my fellow patriot
>also BYC is good for my real white wife

God speed, John Hamburger, blessed patriot.
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>>542085891
>implying you would live to stand besides russia

the thing with some western russian supporters is that they believe that once russia got the upper hands the first thing they do is to purge the libtards of western governments in which the void will be filled with ideologues of their own side which is a fairytale story

so tell me is this a desperation, depression, or the last, most potent cope that you believe that you play for the other side and the other side will welcome you with open arms?
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>b-but the rosha can't break!

wrong, it fell into devastating civil war once, almost twice
prepare for pain
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>>542085289
Du legst hier die gleiche abartige heuchlerei und missrepräsentation an den Tag wie die vatnigger in diesen Dingen wenn sie wiederum für ihren menschenverachtenden Imperialismus werben.
Ich muss die palis nicht mögen um zu verstehen, wer hier der Verbrecher ist.
Und du hattest ernsthaft die Chutzpah mich als den propagandisierten zu bezeichnen.
Erbärmlich.
Nach fast einem halben Jahrhundert ist schon mehr Einsicht von einem Mensch zu erwarten wobei sowas bei endloser Bequemlichkeit wohl eher eingeht anstatt zu gedeihen.
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>>542086160
Sorry I'm supposed to be sleeping and all that but- THIS ZIGGA DIED TAKING A BROOM
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>>542085524
>Did you even read what Girkin said in that fucking article? D
I do love how the article from Moscowtimes you posted validates each of my claims btw, including the one about who started the war. Your chinks did not send the best and the brightest when they sent you. At the end of the day, you are here with a foreign flag and therefore a liar, I am not.
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When will the pidors stop dying?
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>>542085524
stop fucking dogs you inbred trailer nigger
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>>542086278
TRVTHNVKE
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>>542085891
What happened, you highly strung VPN user. Did your shift run out?
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I am against muslim, jews and russians. Europe for eueopeans. If you disagree with this, then you are a shill or a subhuman thirdworlder.
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>>542086051
At least Russia is an independent great power that pretends to give a shit about Christianity. Y'all are just plain pathetic.

>>542086105
Do you have any idea who Pat Buchanan is you fucking moron? I was literally just listening to Judge Napolitano talking about how Russia should nuke all you retards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1rPrF0zx9M

>>542086130
>the thing with some western russian supporters is that they believe that once russia got the upper hands the first thing they do is to purge the libtards of western governments in which the void will be filled with ideologues of their own side which is a fairytale story
I'm not an ideologue. I believe the world is ruled by power. Ideologies are merely a dialectic of power. My goal is to structure the world in such a way that governments, in the pursuance of power/self-preservation, behave in a manner more conducive to own ideals.

>>542086242
>I do love how the article from Moscowtimes you posted validates each of my claims
Explain yourself.

>>542086409
>What happened
Some German started talking shit so I had to talk shit back. He was substituting bullshit for facts.
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>>542086146
kultureller Universalismus ist blind und dumm
du wirst die Erfahrung machen dass eine große Anzahl an Menschen immer auf ihren inneren Schimpansen hören wird, soll heißen ihre Gier und ihr Gewaltpotential, egal wie sehr du ihre materiellen und geopolitischen Bedrängnisse beseitigst
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>redshitterz is back

Remember, he can't really argue for shit.
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>>542085304
Nah, invading russniggeria only ever leads to one of two possible outcomes:
1 - You lose because the steppe is too big
2 - You win and become the new russniggeria due to the steppe-curse.
The mongols aren't humans in the way we understand it, they are a plague. A test for real humans to see if we still value civilization and fight for it, or are content creating the new dark ages.

The way to defeat the current russniggeria is to have them suffer so thoroughly, they split apart and fight themselves for a while. This has to be repeated every 100 or so years.
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>>542086474
he seems to be here only to seethe at everybody that (You)s him
and a paraphiliac freak, imagine my shock
as such he's usual shill fare, just added pozzedness from namefagging
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>>542086457
>you don't understand
>as a patriot, I think Russia should get everything they want, and then some
>they have noooks, you know?
>that means they win

So, John Hamburger, do you think America should return Alaska Oblast to it's rightful owner?
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Russian President Vladimir Putin told U.S. special envoy Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner on Saturday that Russian forces were making real advances in Ukraine and that Moscow was confident of achieving the aims of its military campaign, presidential aide Yuri Ushakov said after more than three hours of talks at the Kremlin.
Ushakov said the Russian side gave “clear and comprehensive” assessments of the fighting, highlighted “real successes” in the combat zone, restated the need to eliminate the “root causes” of the conflict, and expressed confidence the stated objectives would be met. Witkoff and Kushner undertook to use those assessments in talks with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in Kyiv on Sunday, Ushakov added. He said the Americans had prepared thoroughly, voiced interest in ending the fighting quickly and put forward a series of ideas on possible settlement paths. Economic issues and potential large-scale U.S.-Russian projects were also discussed.
The meeting lasted three hours and 10 minutes and continued over dinner. Kirill Dmitriev, Putin’s special representative for investment, also attended. Putin asked the envoys to convey thanks and good wishes to President Donald Trump and said Russia found it comfortable to work with them. A White House official described the talks as meaningful and said next steps would be announced in the coming weeks.
Putin ordered a 72-hour halt to strikes on Kyiv from midnight Saturday to facilitate the visit, but rejected a wider frontline ceasefire. Zelenskyy said Ukraine would refrain from striking Moscow through Monday.
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>>542086560
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A source close to the Kremlin told Reuters there was no prospect of an agreement on the front line until Russia completed the capture of the remainder of Donetsk Oblast, a goal Putin believes can be reached by the end of the year on the basis of reports from his commanders. The same source said Putin was not prepared to concede territory despite war fatigue, fuel shortages, economic strain and Ukrainian long-range strikes inside Russia.
What the U.S. pair formally tabled was not disclosed. Sources familiar with Ukrainian thinking told Bloomberg they expected another attempt to revive a demilitarized free-economic-zone concept for the Donbas; later reporting described a 30-km buffer that would become a free-trade area. Interlocutors in both Moscow and Kyiv said they expected little progress. Putin, they said, would end the war only on his terms, and those terms have hardened because he judges Russia to hold the battlefield advantage.
The envoys left Moscow after the talks and were expected in Kyiv later on Sunday.
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>>542086581
>burgers
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>>542086476
I dunno, man. Japs and Germs were pretty fucked up in the head. Until they got the stupid fucked out of their head. It's the Imperialist mindset that's the problem. You don't need to invade every last fucking inch. The the capital, and make changes from there.

Worked before, should work again. Sitting on the problem won't fix it. It didn't with Japs and Germs.
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So, according to a NATO military planner, Europe is not prepared for a protracted war with russia, mainly due to anti-immigration (read: pro-russia) parties rising in popularity and the public not being properly informed on the nature of the russians. Magyar (the Ukrainian one) also said that Europe is not ready for drone combat and the Baltics are in a difficult position. Now add to that the unwillingness of the average Med to go to war for the Baltics and you have the EU in danger of collapse.
How do you think a Baltic invasion will play out? Can air superiority really end this before it even begins?
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>>542082591
Can't believe you retards are still posting this fake shit
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>>542086474
>he can't really argue for shit.
I reread your sperg arguments after that fact because I wanted to see how on Earth you thought you were "winning". I still don't get it. You just strawmanned me 90% of the time. Demanded proof that couldn't possibly exist even when you agreed with my conclusion. Then tried to take literally what was obviously not meant to be literal.

Basically, you were behaving like an obnoxious autistic retard. Which is what you are.

>>542086541
>do you think America should return Alaska Oblast to it's rightful owner?
Russia isn't Alaska's rightful owner. And when did I say Russia should get everything it wants? I said, on the matter of Eastern Ukraine, Russia was clearly in the right. The only argument against it is "muh borders", "muh territorial integrity". And always by the same retards who don't apply the same standard literally anywhere else.

Couldn't you niggers have fought over something else? Crimea is literally Danzig and the Donbas is literally the Sudetenland. Do you really expect me to take the side of a fucking Jewish government?
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>>542086657
Let them post their copes and lies. It's all swept away by the reality of puccia getting rekt on the field, in the air, even fucking space.
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>>542086457
>Rome is about christianity
>pretending to be christian is being christian.
Then there is pic related that debunks that theory from your disease riddled brain in one second. You won't care though. Universally invalid arguments means that you are worth more dead than alive. You know this too.

>I was literally just listening to Judge Napolitano
Nobody cares, and your choice of easy listening makes you an idiot.

>I believe the world is ruled by power.
Basement level Mearsheimer understanding. Now do Mearsheimer's understanding of russia BEFORE this war started and adjust your philosophy accordingly. Russia is a third rate power that gets bogged down in a neighbouring country for 5 years, therefore nullifying the notion that they are a great power at all. Thank you for playing.

>Explain yourself.
The idea of a legitimacy to the russian invasion, or the fact that it was due to any legit reason. It was just running interference for the invasion of Crimea that predated it, and not even the Kremlin wanted anything to do with the Donbabwean weirdos.

>He was substituting bullshit for facts.
You are talking about yourself, Judge Napolitano enjoyer.

Thank you for fulfilling every single definition of Poe's law, being an example of the party of the discussion that is not ironic. You are literally a moron, and as I said previously, you are the type of cunt that would get an add-on to a sentence in a court of law, due to not being able to discern between a valid argument and an invalid one. Would LOVE to see a judge sink his teeth in a two digit IQ Dunning Kruger victim like yourself.
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Drones struck industrial and residential targets in Russia’s Ryazan and Rostov regions overnight into Sunday, igniting a fire at what monitoring outlets identified as Rosneft’s Ryazan oil refinery and injuring four people in Rostov-on-Don, including two children, local officials said.
The attacks came on the day U.S. envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner were due in Kyiv. A limited pause on strikes against the two capitals, agreed to facilitate their travel, does not cover other cities or energy infrastructure.
Ryazan Governor Pavel Malkov said air defenses and mobile fire groups shot down drones over the region. Falling debris damaged two residential buildings — one in the city of Ryazan and one in Sapozhkovsky District — and started a fire at “one of the enterprises.” He said there were no casualties. He did not name the plant.
Independent outlet Astra, matching resident video and photos of a column of black smoke, identified the burning site as the Ryazan Oil Refinery. Ukrainian monitoring channels published the same footage. The Rosneft-owned plant has a design capacity of about 17 million tons a year, supplies the Moscow region among other markets, and is routinely listed among Russia’s largest refiners. It has been hit before, including on May 15 and July 29, when processing was temporarily halted.
In Rostov-on-Don, Governor Yuri Slyusar said several apartment buildings were damaged in the Sovetsky, Leninsky and Kirovsky districts. Mayor Alexander Skryabin said four people were injured, two of them children, and declared an emergency regime on the affected streets. Slyusar said about 30 drones were destroyed over Rostov-on-Don, Bataysk and nearby districts.
Slyusar also said drone fragments struck a locomotive in Chertkovsky District, delaying seven passenger trains by about three hours.
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>>542086736
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Russia’s Defense Ministry said air-defense and electronic-warfare units intercepted 258 airplane-type Ukrainian drones overnight over 13 regions, Krasnodar Krai, Crimea and the Azov and Black seas. The claim could not be independently verified.
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>reread your sperg arguments after that fact because I wanted to see how on Earth you thought you were "winning". I still don't get it.

That's okay. That requires actual knowledge of the things you were yapping about.
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>>542086468
Hm, verstehe, deshalb ust das extrem abartige und vorrauas-entschiedene, kindervergewaltigende schimpansentum auf einer ebene der reaktiven gewalt und abneigung der palis nach jahrzehntelangem missbrauch, plündern und mord gleichzusetzen
Sprichst dich hier mit der widerlichsten doppelmoral für genozid aus und bezichtigst dann jene die auch nur ein hauch ebenköpfiger betrachtung und schlussfolgerung anwenden eines phantastischen universalismus
Immer wieder der gleiche schwachsinnige typus scheißdreck von dir; unglaublich wie bewusst blind du bist
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>>542086684
Why do you fuck dogs and can you please stop? Why do you celebrate incest? Why do you still namefag when it shows how much of a retarded degenerate you actually are?
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>>542086842
Degeneracy and cravenness is a feature to these pro-imperialism subhumans, it's vice-signalling
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>>542086655
While Magyar is right about NATO's lackluster drone capabilities and knowledge, he's wrong about the defensive readiness.
Pro-russnigger parties will vanish in the EU the moment russnigger troops invade one of its member states. Even the most retarded neutrooler would then understand that russniggers need to be fought.

Let me remind you: If monke genuinely thought he could defeat NATO in any way shape or form, he would have already done so.
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>>542086704
>Now do Mearsheimer's understanding of russia BEFORE this war started and adjust your philosophy accordingly.
Do you mean because Mearsheimer thought Russia wouldn't invade? Or do you mean how Mearsheimer believed America would essentially ally with Russia to balance China?

What Mearsheimer wanted was essentially a Sino-Russian split. Which is also what Donald Trump wanted. Which is why Trump went to Helsinki and defended Putin, and has generally been seemingly pro-Russia(and got impeached over delaying arms to Ukraine).

>Russia is a third rate power that gets bogged down in a neighbouring country for 5 years, therefore nullifying the notion that they are a great power at all.
1) Great power != superpower.
2) Do you even understand Russia's strategy?

>The idea of a legitimacy to the russian invasion, or the fact that it was due to any legit reason.
It literally says that everyone was pro-Russia, and that if Girkin hadn't acted, a lot of "separatists" would have been tortured/killed.

What Girkin is mad about is that he believed he could basically take all of the pro-Russian territories without a fight. He didn't understand why Putin refused to recognize the breakaway territories or provide any real support. He essentially believes the war could have been ended in 2014, and that Putin is to blame for not doing enough to help the Eastern Ukrainians.

>Poe's law
Show me my "wrong" arguments. And don't strawman me you stupid faggot.
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>>542087104
>Great power

minor power
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>>542086684
>you strawmanned me 90% of the time

let's go one by one then

aid: we agreed Ukraine depends on foreign assistance. we did not agree that Ukraine's political objective is "get money," that every defended position is held for donor PR, or that Zelensky said the specific thing you attributed to him. agreeing with a premise isn't conceding the conclusion you built on top of it kek

Verdun: you argued Russia was successfully applying an attritional strategy. the disputed word was "successfully." I pointed out the strategy cost Falkenhayn his job and produced near-symmetric casualties. "nobody can know the exact numbers" doesn't cash out as "therefore my version wins." source: trust me bro remains source: trust me bro with a historical battle attached

sovereignty: you accepted the sphere-of-influence framing and defended Russia replacing America as Europe's hegemon. your own words, your own post numbers. if some description went beyond your position, name it

Brzezinski: we accepted the quotation was real. the dispute was context. the man introduced his vocabulary as "deliberately archaic terminology" and diagnosed Russia's desired role as leading to "the subordination of the newly independent post-Soviet states." authentic quotation doesn't automatic validation of everything you attach to it

Zelensky quote: you claimed a specific public statement. I asked where it was. your arc: specific claim --- "years ago" --- "didn't save it" --- "don't remember verbatim" ---- "don't care." asking where a supposedly public remark came from isn't demanding access to a classified vault lmao

every response addressed your stated position using your own words and post numbers. if I misrepresented something specific, name it: your original words, my reply, and the different position I allegedly substituted. you said you reread the exchange. bring the receipts
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>>542086684
>on the matter of Eastern Ukraine, Russia was clearly in the right

1991 independence referendum - Donetsk: 83.9% yes. Luhansk: 83.86% yes. Crimea: 54.19% yes. turnout above 75%

KIIS April 2014 - southeastern Ukraine: ~15% supported joining Russia

"clearly in the right" about a population that voted against you at 84%. self-determination only counts when the self determines what you wanted kek

>the only argument is "muh borders", "muh territorial integrity"
the borders Russia committed to in the Budapest Memorandum (1994), reaffirmed in the Treaty on Friendship (1997), and agreed to in the OSCE Charter Article 8 (1999) which says no state can consider any part of the OSCE area as its sphere of influence. "muh borders" carries more weight when your side signed three documents affirming them lmao

>Crimea is literally Danzig and the Donbas is literally the Sudetenland
correct. two territorial demands made to "protect ethnic minorities," appeased by the West, which turned out to be pretexts for the conquest of the entire country. that's literally what happened. you just made the case for not appeasing Russia LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>542086457
>I'm not an ideologue. I believe the world is ruled by power. Ideologies are merely a dialectic of power. My goal is to structure the world in such a way that governments, in the pursuance of power/self-preservation, behave in a manner more conducive to own ideals.

and so you are willingly to make your life shittier just to prove a point?

also if so then would it be more beneficial if your nation (US in this case) should be the one who should be more powerful since it align with your own self-preservation no matter how declined is it?
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time is not on Russia's side, delulu zisters
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>>542087283
doubt
they are pretty successful at installing anti-UA parties in europe by abusing your immigration policies
add to that every trumpistan-owned internet website pushing pro-zigger shit via algos
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>>542085277
Your daily reminder snownigger
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>>542087343
be that pessimistic if you wish, I see nothing but bluffs from the eastoid side and very little to fear on ours
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>>542087283
>time is not on Russia's side
Oh yeah?
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>>542087416
yeah
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>>542087189
It is insulting how retarded this asshole is
And he just keep going
Waste of flesh and life
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>>542081930

When will the uraine stop seething?
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>>542087416
well they lose 1400 hiv people daily so i would say no
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>>542087104
>do you mean
Neither. False dilemma.
>Not a great power, not a superpower
Now bogged down within cycling distance of the 2014 frontline. There is therefore no need to even dream about them getting out of this victorious.

>Do you even understand Russia's strategy?
Yes, a quick decapitation strike and cutting the nation in half. Now you are stuck on cope levels about attritional war and le devious Boris Johnson and goodwill retreat. Russia has failed, therefore there is no need to appease them.

>It literally says that everyone was pro-Russia,
The Moscow Times article says NO SUCH THING, not even figuratively, you fucking disingenuous bad faith maggot brain. You lost the argument. Now fuck off.

>Show me my "wrong" arguments
Careful your slavic grammar shines through. Poe's law has nothing to do with "wrong arguments", you fucking retard.
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The White House said U.S. envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner held “substantive” talks with President Vladimir Putin in Moscow on Saturday and that plans for next steps toward ending the war in Ukraine would be announced in the coming weeks.
A White House official said the pair had discussed those plans with the Russian side and looked forward to “equally productive meetings” in Ukraine on Sunday. The official did not disclose the content of the Kremlin exchange. CNN and Reuters carried the comment.
Axios reported that officials from the National Security Council, the State Department and the Treasury Department accompanied the envoys to discuss peace proposals and advance President Donald Trump’s settlement agenda. Treasury’s acting sanctions official, Gene Lange, met Putin’s economic envoy Kirill Dmitriev separately and did not sit in with Putin.
Kremlin aide Yuri Ushakov said the Moscow meeting lasted three hours and 10 minutes, including dinner. He said Putin told the Americans that Russian forces were making real advances, expressed confidence Moscow would achieve the aims of its campaign, and restated the demand that any settlement address what Russia calls the “root causes” of the conflict. Ushakov said Witkoff and Kushner undertook to use those assessments in Kyiv.
The visit is the first to the Ukrainian capital by Trump’s principal war negotiators. Russia and Ukraine each agreed to pause strikes on the other’s capital for three days to cover the trip; the pause does not apply to other targets.
Bloomberg sources on the Ukrainian side said they expected another attempt to revive a demilitarized free-economic-zone plan for the Donbas, territory Moscow says it intends to take in full. Interlocutors in both capitals said they expected little progress. Putin, they said, would end the war only on his terms, which have hardened because he judges Russia to hold the battlefield advantage.
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>>542087444
KAMERADEN
WIR TREFFEN UNS ZUM EUTHANASIEARSCHFICM IN TIERGARTENSTRASSE WEST
KEINE FAULEN BALLASTEXISTENZEN
ICH ZÄHL AUF EUCH
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>>542087381
being overconfident and just waving away all concerns is how you lose
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>>542087356
Finland unronically defeated the USSR. That tiny country managed to fight off the giant continental USSR with minimal losses.
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time is on rasha side, which is why they're
>doing partial mogilization again
>making seething threats at everyone
>begging chinks and indians for economic aid
>begging norks for troops and missiles
>getting kotel'd in Donbass
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>>542087516
>Finland unronically defeated the USSR
You have to ask yourself, is Finland bigger or smaller than before the war?
This will give you a subtle clue about who won a war.
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>>542087493
trust me with knowing the AfD, they're not gonna become a genuine threat
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TRD
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Ukraine’s Air Force said Russian forces launched 108 strike drones and small cruise munitions overnight into Sunday and that air defenses shot down or jammed 88 of them, according to preliminary figures as of 0930 local time.
The package included Shahed-type drones, some of them jet-powered, Gerbera drones, Parodiya decoys and S8000 Banderol munitions, launched from Millerovo, Oryol, Kursk, occupied parts of Donetsk region and Hvardiiske in occupied Crimea, the Air Force said. Aviation, surface-to-air missile units, electronic-warfare teams, unmanned-systems units and mobile fire groups took part in the defense.
Of the 88 neutralized targets, 82 were UAVs and six were Banderols. Hits were recorded at 11 locations and falling debris at seven more. The service did not name the sites. It said hostile drones were still in Ukrainian airspace when the tally was issued.
The attack came as U.S. envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner were due in Kyiv under a three-day pause on strikes against the two capitals. That pause does not cover other cities or infrastructure.
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>>542087586
The question that you have to ask is:
Does Finland exist on the map after the war?
If yes than Russia failed.
Look at the map. Russia is as big as a continent and can't conquer a country that is 40 times smaller.
This will tell you who actually won the war.
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>>542087588
>trust me with knowing the AfD, they're not gonna become a genuine threat
elaborate please, what do you mean?
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>>542087657
in a nutshell they're morons
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>>542086995
I hope you're not wrong.
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>>542087631
>Does Finland exist on the map after the war?
Does germoney still exists on the map?
Anon you can lose and still continue existing and it would be great if Ukraina figured out that too, they would be in much better position today.
Like Finland gave up pretty quickly which was smart part of dumb decision otherwise they would have ended just like Ukraina.
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>>542087104
>2) Do you even understand Russia's strategy?
fucking nigger, why do you even bother wasting your time breathing and typing such shite?

Which strategy you are fucking talking about? To waste 5 FIVE fucking years in a meaningless white-on-white war, wasting FINITE oil resources on rockets which go boom and thats it, literally blowing money in the air?

While you have a 1.3 birth rate, like the worst in the fucking world aside Japan and South Korea, because your fucking population actually knows inherently how hopeless is the future? And yeah im a fucking russian so i fucking know what im talking about, unlike you fucking nigger delulu shithead, russian strategy fucking christ.

DOnt fucking spread your opinion in a way like youre entitled to a burden of knowledge because youre clearly fucking not
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>>542087174
>PR war
Ukraine's behavior is shaped by its need for foreign aid. That's the argument, and you agreed with it.

>Verdun
The strategy was to fight where Germany had the advantage. Germany failed because it was never able to fully secure the high ground. And also because France was a peer military power.

In Ukraine, imagine Falkenhayn secured all the high ground and had 10x more artillery.

>you accepted the sphere-of-influence framing and defended Russia replacing America as Europe's hegemon.
Yes. Russia wants to become to Europe what America currently is(security guarantor). Although, since Russia is far less powerful, the relationship would be far more balanced. As I said, Russia needs Europe, America does not.

>Brzezinski
Russia's desire to subordinate is no greater than America's. In any case, Russia's strategy was to buy Europe off with its vast resources. What do you think Nordsteam was about?

>Zelensky quote
Again, you agreed with my conclusion(Ukraine needs to keep its donors happy) so I didn't care to find the quote. Pic-related is what I got from AI.
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>>542081930
TZD
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>>542087731
MIGA does not appear to be a shining example of intelligent life yet here we are
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>>542087704
Maybe suck them titties a bit before killing them nafo trannie?
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>>542087760
yeah why doesnt russia just give up then? nothing happens if they do
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>>542087189
1) They declared independence from the Soviet Union, not Russia.
2) Crimea immediately declared independence, but Russia talked them out of it to avoid conflict.
3) Crimean polls from 1991-2014 were always in favor of independence except when pro-Russian candidates were in power.
4) Ukraine's democratic government was overthrown in a coup and the first thing the coup government did was ban Russian(although the law was never signed by the president).
5) British media went to Eastern Ukraine in 2014 and showed that there was overwhelming support for separation from Ukraine.
6) Ukraine spent eight years torturing and killing separatists and defacto banning the Russian language and the Russian Orthodox Church, among other things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi575J_wYdM
7) Kikelensky immediately banned all men from leaving and the Ukrainian army hasn't had any volunteers since 2022.
8) You don't get it. I don't give a fuck about borders or territorial integrity. Every time you mention it I just want to punch you in your obnoxious goddamn face.

No one wants to be Ukrainian. Half the country has already left and the other half would leave if they could.

Which includes you you fucking great Ukrainian patriot hiding in Finland. Kys you fucking moron.
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>>542087974
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>>542087760
>Anon you can lose and still continue existing
Not when Russia is fighting a war to annex you.
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>>542087974
ok but that is no reason for you to be fucking dogs now is it
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>>542087974
>Ukraine spent eight years torturing and killing Russian separatists
Based
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>he continues talking about Eastern Ukraine not realizing I literally am from there.

gegaroo
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>>542087818
>pee pee poo poo
What did he mean by this?
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>>542088042
Based euro pigs
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>>542088033
>Based
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>>542088113
extremely based
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>>542088042
looool, saved
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>>542087795
>PR war
is "PR war" your name for donor influence, or a claim about what Ukraine is fighting for? I agreed aid shapes decisions. which specific decision was shaped by donor optics rather than military necessity? if you meant only that donors have influence, what exactly did I deny? kek

>pic related is what I got from AI
your AI says the quotes come from a "Fox News interview with Sean Hannity in late January 2025." the CBS quote it cites is actually from December 8 2025, during Zelensky's London-Brussels tour. your bot hallucinated the interview. you sourced your source from a machine that fabricated the provenance lmao
and none of the three quotes mention donors, aid, or money. they say law, constitution, moral obligation, and strategic precedent. your AI couldn't find your quote because your quote doesn't exist. it found something else and you didn't read it. the redshadowz special, now automated kek

>imagine Falkenhayn secured all the high ground and had 10x more artillery
is "10x" illustrative or measured? if illustrative, which observed conditions make the analogy fit? if measured, which period, sector, and metric? does typing "imagine" supply evidence, or just the winning conditions for your HOI4 save? lmao

>Russia wants to become what America currently is but more balanced
one question: would countries remain free to reject Russian protection and choose other alliances? yes or no. if yes, that's the current system and Russia invaded Ukraine for attempting it. if no, you've described hegemony, not balance kek

>Russia's desire to subordinate is no greater than America's. Nordstream
which common measure supports that comparison, and how does a gas pipeline establish it? countries that joined NATO applied voluntarily. countries that joined Russia's sphere were invaded when they tried to leave. you're citing the warning as a defense lmao
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>>542088113
zigger posting gems holy shit
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>>542087246
>so you are willingly to make your life shittier just to prove a point?
Shittier, how?

>if so then would it be more beneficial if your nation (US in this case) should be the one who should be more powerful
My nation was taken over by Jews who immediately destroyed it. I want white Europeans to be powerful. Not kikes and their banks.

>>542087470
>Now bogged down within cycling distance of the 2014 frontline. There is therefore no need to even dream about them getting out of this victorious.
Define great power then. What other country could have defeated a Ukraine supported by 50 countries and half a trillion in aid?

>The Moscow Times article says NO SUCH THING
I literally posted it you stupid nigger. >>542085818 .... "Initially everybody was for Russia".

>Poe's law
Sorry, I got the wrong law. I thought it was that other one about how everyone thinks everyone else is an idiot. Someone mentioned it the other day. Never heard of it either, and already forgot it.
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you ever notice how these faggot vpn shills shill from different flags yet all use the same images
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>>542088196
so tell me which country crossed the borders of another country and began to invade it, please?
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Zelensky here. Patriots I set a new record tonight. 6 Tyrone`s fucked me in the ass. I am so happy think I will have my trannie guards blow the Tyrone`s brains out and pitch them in the dumpster above my bunker. Really fucking funny watching the garbage men pick up the dumpster and all those dead Tyrone`s are squashed in their pick up vehicle. Man the blood and brains go everywhere. Love and Kisses, Z.
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>>542088042
no thats the amis
get your shit right
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>>542088230
At least they are not posting in their shill general anymore. /chug/ is dead kek
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Somebody get these NIGGERS out of my thread.
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>>542088196
>Shittier, how?
russia doesn't have obligation to save your ass so arguably they can open a gulag and force you to work with the fat tranny besides you toiling to death
>My nation was taken over by Jews who immediately destroyed it. I want white Europeans to be powerful. Not kikes and their banks.
but what if the kikes or at least the banks switching side to russia? or what if russia didn't give a shit about racial things unlike you or many other supporters who make it a racial issue?

you're putting a blind faith over someone that at best didn't give a shit and at worst have a roko basilisk grade enmity towards you by proxy of being on the opposing side
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>>542088318
most of them switch to /pig/ since iran was more or less winning and only losers go to losing side or whatever football mentality they're on
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>>542088162
>how does a gas pipeline establish it?
Why do you think we blew up nordstream? If you know the answer, then you'll know the answer. I know you're much smarter than you seem.
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>>542088318
>/chug/ is dead kek
Since fall of bakhmut being /chug/ shill became just too easy.
Like I went with wrong side because it was harder at the very beginning when everyone was going with the flow and current thing.
These days it's much harder and challenging to be ukro-nazi shill, I kinda think about switching the teams just because of the thrill of shitposting on hard mode when everyone and everything is against you.
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>>542088407
>Why do you think we blew up nordstream?
For funsies. Russian thing go BOOM!!
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>>542088196
Please stop fucking dogs or I am going to call peta on your obese ass you fat wifeless retard
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>>542087974
your eight claims need to establish one of three things: Ukrainian crimes occurred, Russia was justified intervening, or residents wanted Russian rule. those are separate propositions. you're running all three as if proving one proves the others kek

>1) independence from the Soviet Union
correct. and 54.19% of Crimean voters then endorsed Ukrainian independence in December 1991

>2) Crimea immediately declared independence
the May 1992 declaration was parliamentary. which referendum confirmed it? none. the January 1991 referendum asked about autonomy WITHIN Ukraine/USSR, not independence from it

>3) Crimean polls always favored independence
"always" needs a consistently worded polling series. which one? and does "independence" mean Crimea alone or joining Russia? those are different questions with different answers

>4) first thing was ban Russian
you answered this yourself: "the law was never signed by the president." it never took effect. it's in your own post lmao

>5) British media showed overwhelming support for separation
KIIS April 2014: 27.5% in Donetsk and 30.3% in Luhansk supported joining Russia. which British report establishes an overwhelming majority? name it

>6) eight years torturing, banning Russian language and Orthodox Church
the church restriction law was signed in 2024, not eight years of anything. Russia controlled Crimea by February 27 2014 (ECHR ruling). which events from the subsequent "eight years" justify the action that preceded them? kek

>7) no volunteers since 2022
Ministry of Defense February 2025: 8,500+ volunteers registered through recruiting centers in one year. conscription and volunteering coexist. "no volunteers" is factually false

>8) I don't give a fuck about borders
then what principle makes Russian control rightful? consent? the referendum says no. protection? Russia is the one bombing them. historical ownership? Russia recognized the borders three times. pick one and defend it lmao
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>>542088444
>even russian shills are shilling for russia just for cheap thrill
woe unto them who shills to russia for higher purpose eh?
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>>542088407
>Recently, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov announced that Moscow is in discussions with Washington to bring the Nord Stream pipelines back into operation
Burgers will probably buy majority stake at it, reopen it and sell that gas to germoney since technically it'll no longer be russian but american gas.
Euros could kinda complain about it but burgers have 3k nukes and 500 F35's.
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>>542088407
based Biden
baed destroyers of Nord Shite
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>>542084841
Ah, but it was Bob who created the economic circumstances that forced Tyron to invade Bobs home.
Tyron is a good boy and dindu nuffin :^)
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>>542088371
>but what if the kikes or at least the banks switching side to russia?
If your argument is that things could be worse. Sure. But things could also be better. Regardless, how do we solve the Jewish Question?
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>>542088407
>why do you think we blew up nordstream

"why did we do it" assumes you've established who did it. German federal prosecutors charged Ukrainian national Serhii Kuznetsov on July 1 2026. second suspect Volodymyr Zhuravlov arrested in Croatia three weeks ago. seven Ukrainian suspects identified, zero American. trial starts October 26. the actual criminal investigation disagrees with your Biden jpeg kek
but grant US responsibility for argument's sake. what follows? that America would destroy an energy relationship it opposed? how does that establish your separate claim that Russia's desired relationship with Europe would be "more balanced"?
what are you comparing: dependence, freedom to choose alliances, or willingness to punish countries that refuse? Russia invaded Ukraine for choosing the EU association agreement. what evidence about Russian conduct supplies the other half of your comparison? lmao

"if you know the answer, you'll know the answer" skips the inference I'm asking you to explain. that's not an argument, it's a mystical hand wave kek

you dropped:
the AI screenshot that disproved your Zelensky quote
the Verdun "10x" that was ~5:1 and closing
the "balanced guarantee" question
whether countries can reject Russian protection
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Russian strikes overnight into Sunday set fire to an infrastructure site in Fastiv district of Kyiv region and forced a temporary halt at the Orlivka ferry crossing with Romania, Ukrainian officials said.
The State Emergency Service said the Fastiv blaze was large enough, hot enough and smoky enough that extra crews and engines were called in. Firefighters worked several fronts and kept the fire from spreading to other facilities. It was later reported extinguished. Authorities did not name the site or report casualties from that strike.
In Odesa region, the Izmail district administration said Russian forces attacked border infrastructure and that Orlivka, an international ferry checkpoint with Romania, suspended the processing of people and vehicles. Local officials later said operations had resumed. It was the second strike on the crossing this week; a Shahed attack on Sept. 1 hit the building and grounds and started fires.
The targets lie outside Kyiv city and therefore outside the three-day pause on strikes against the two capitals tied to U.S. envoys’ travel.
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>>542088747
>Regardless, how do we solve the Jewish Question?
how do you want it to be resolved?
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wow

"Ukraine Considers Legalizing Porn Industry to Fund Its War Chest"
>https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/ukraine-considers-legalizing-porn-industry-to-fund-its-war-chest-53b525bf
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>>542088444
But who is going to pay your salary when you swtich to pro-ukraine Ivan
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>>542088525
>which British report establishes an overwhelming majority?
After the Odessa fire. There were no polls, they gauged it based on protests and apparent support for separatists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw10KuzpnEQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS52_-rYr4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ5H9S2pv08


A Ukrainian officer said most people in Eastern Ukraine support Russia in January 2022.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKAt56zW0-g&t=741s

Lots of Russia supporters still in Eastern Ukraine even in 2026.

https://youtu.be/egAw27oqY3Y?t=1510

Regardless, you know that Ukraine isn't a real country and that loyalties are divided. Especially between old and young.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVXzwnU1H6U&t=355s

In such a country, you could have just been neutral, or implemented Minsk, or decentralized, or whatever. But you wanted war, then ran away, because you're a literal faggot.
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Former MI6 chief John Sawers said a serious agreement to end the war in Ukraine is unlikely before spring 2027 and that durable peace is “not really conceivable” while Vladimir Putin remains in power.
Speaking on Saturday at the FT Weekend Festival, Sawers said Ukraine and Russia face a painful winter and that greater military and economic losses on both sides could open the way to talks by the end of 2027 — if the cost of the war keeps rising and if Russian advances on the ground do not resume.
He said the most realistic near-term outcome was not a peace treaty but a drop in fighting to something closer to the intensity seen after 2014, when Russia annexed Crimea and the conflict in the Donbas began. That, he said, might be “the best that one could hope for.”
Sawers, now executive chair of Newbridge Advisory, called it useful that the United States was engaging Putin but added that he had “not much faith in their envoys” and that “Putin’s demands are outlandish and they stay that way.” He said more voices inside Russia were questioning the war and Russia’s need to find a way out of it.
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>>542089025
>But who is going to pay your salary
Soros & the jews
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>>542088974
>how do you want it to be resolved?
By stripping away the power of global finance.
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>>542089034
so it is all bullshit and you are just making shit up while fucking your dog?
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>>542087586
That isn't quite logical, look at the goals.
Russia: conquer Finland
Finland: survive

You sound like the miggers who say they've beaten Iran because they've sunk their navy or whatever meanwhile they've accomplished none of their objectives while Iran has accomplished its objective of surviving.
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>thank you Mr puten for these wonder ful memories
Ehm whats that all about
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The axis of superpoors have done a great job of shilling.
If they had never mithered me with lies i wouldn’t want them all dead today like i do.
Well done kremlin glowies and poo.
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>>542089103
well there you have it, just economically persecute them
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>>542089240
>That isn't quite logical, look at the goals.
>Russia: conquer Finland
Tho that's not true, never trust Finnish lies, they're the same as Ukros and Ruskies. Just lies lies lies...
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>>542087767
Incredibly based response
Sorry for your loss
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>>542089256
These two retards again spent hours glazing Puting asking him to go slower and use lube. America is truly the (((greatest ally))) to everyone they sign a piece of paper with. Nuclear re-armament for Europe is critically needed.
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Jewtin brought out the "special reserve" he didn't use since epstein didn't kill himself. For honored guests of refined taste.
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>>542089256
The same Q wing of grotty, elderly, stuck in the 20th century fantasist liars who also told us that the rigged US election was just a cunningly planned watermark based trap to catch and arrest democrat riggers are sure on the ball when it comes to dealing with matters of war and empire. At warpspeed, very impressive. (Sarcasm implied - see pic related)
I hate them almost as much as i hate psycho “leftists”… but not quite. It was still a good move to elect the Trumphalumpha as it has DESTROYED the final shreds of faux sanity that the psycho leftist sharts used to cover up their mental illnesses. Reducing them to non stop public hysteria … and amusing me endlessly.
Still i want the mongolian khazars fake country of mother-rusher dissolving ASAP. There’s no reason why we shouldn’t have all the chocolates in the box. Nice people deserve nice things. Kill Vladolf Pootlebeanz like the filthy Sadam he is. And hos delightful people are just as much to blame as he is, they got the benefit of the doubt when it was stalin and big eyebrow dictator times but by now theres been too many dictatorships there for it to be a coincidence. That country has to end this time, nobody should have to live with the superpoors any more.
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>>542089573
So the Soviet Finnish government that they tried implementing in Finland isn't real? I mean, It isn't real, because they failed, but they sure tried. Have you seen the pact with Hitler? Pic related. Looks like an absolute failure to me.
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>>542087760
Nazi Germany no longer exists and its ideology is illegal in large parts of the world. It died with its dog of a leader that night in the bunker.
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pee pees out for the fifa peace price
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>>542089858
God I want fifa to be annihilated
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TZD
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>>542088755
1) Russia's foreign-policy for the last 50 years was to buy Europe off with commodities.
2) Russia's principle target was Germany.
3) Russia's plan was to make a devil's bargain with Germany. Offer Germany unlimited cheap energy for its industry in exchange for European neutrality.
4) German industry is the heart of Europe. Without Germany, there is no Europe. Wherever Germany goes, Europe follows.
5) Russia needs a neutral Europe, and preferably a pro-Russian Europe to protect itself from non-Europeans.
6) Russia ideally wants a Europe from "Lisbon to Vladivostok" because that would mean a block of 750+ million white Europeans with almost infinite resources.
7) Prior to WWI, Germany was built up by good relations with Russia. The Russian monarchy were basically German. And Germany was defacto colonizing Russia by helping to settle the "East".
8) European birthrates were high during colonialism because they needed to be high to colonize. A Europe/Russian alliance could create a kind of new European Renaissance from developing the East.
9) US foreign-policy is to make sure Germany and Russia never develop friendly relations, and to make sure Europe remains dependent on the United States.
10) US policy is called "Old Europe vs New Europe".
11) Germany is no longer a frontline state so America no longer needs an industrial Germany. We're now building up Poland, and other Eastern European states, to buy them off and keep them dependent.
12) Eastern Europe will do anything to keep the money flowing in.
13) Germany understood this and tried to circumvent Eastern Europe by building Nordstream.
14) Eastern Europeans hate Germany and destroyed Nordstream because they would have been cut out.
15) The United States plans on maintaining domination of Europe through this divide and conquer because Europeans are jealous retards.
16) As soon as Russia is out of the way, Europe, as a union, will cease to serve a purpose.
17) All "revolutionaries" are anti-Ukraine.
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Ooh, boy, a Redrocketz thread. Can't wait to be enlightened by the political acumen of the guy who wanked his male dog off and then bragged about it on the internet.
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>>542089964
btw are you a top or a bottom?
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>>542090003
>btw are you a top or a bottom?
I like to see her face.
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>>542090157
suuure ;P
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>>542090157
>her
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>>542089664
That is (((two of the countries that guaranteed your countries safety and protection in return for you voluntarily giving up your WMD’s))). They are now meeting to discuss dividing up your sundry property after you’ve been raped, murdered, your children stolen to fix mother-rashers demographic crises and your land used to build data centres on.
Just sayin’… that was probably a bad idea, trusting them.
It’s like 300. Trumps that hunchback guy with all the warts on his hump.
But it’s okay since i’m convinced of two things, ukraine will probably win and russia will DEFINITELY lose.
>Trump with the hump
He’s as good at imperial global politics as he is at big business and deal making. Absolutely shit he’s a total disaster. Sucking up to his enemies.
It’s wokeys fault though. Trumpy does it to spite them because they are always attacking him so rabidly,
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>>542090157
What sort of emotions did you glean from your dog's face while you were jerking it off?
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>>542090239
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>>542089034
>there were no polls, they gauged it based on protests and apparent support
so your evidence for "overwhelming support" is protest footage extrapolated to population-level consent. counting YouTube links isn't counting residents kek

I checked all six. zero polls, zero surveys, zero demographic data across any of them
Channel 4 (April 2014): reporter notes "not everyone here wants a separate state." includes a civilian saying "we want to live in peace in Ukraine, one country." also notes armed men at checkpoints with Russian accents. your own source contains a pro-Ukrainian interview you didn't mention lmao
ITV Mariupol: covers anger at Kyiv after May 9 clashes. wanting a government replaced and wanting a country partitioned are different claims. the city was recaptured June 13 2014, stayed Ukrainian for eight years, re-elected its mayor in 2020 with 64%
VICE (Jan 2022): one officer's impression that locals don't support the army. does lacking support for the military mean wanting Russian annexation? those aren't the same question. zero eastern Ukrainian civilians interviewed kek
Dave Smith: stand-up comedian. claims Donbas is "majority ethnic Russians" — 2001 census: 38% Russian, 57% Ukrainian. gets the referendum date wrong. cites Roger Waters as a foreign policy authority lmao
Kyiv Independent (Aug 2026): the moment you timestamped shows one woman. narrator explicitly calls her part of "a small fraction." same video features pro-Ukrainian civilians and anti-Russian graffiti
>Ukraine isn't a real country
what's the criterion? political disagreement? regional division? separatist minorities? does Russia pass its own test - Chechnya, Dagestan, Tatarstan? kek
KIIS April 2014: 27.5% Donetsk and 30.3% Luhansk supported joining Russia. not a majority. and even if it were - separatist support doesn't establish that Russia was "clearly in the right" to invade. those are separate propositions
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good overview of the tactical situation at the frontline and a little bit of /k/ autism:
https://youtu.be/_d0s8YqGsfI

tldr Ukraine is innovating and looking for new tactics to reenable manouvre warfare, their main limitation is supply of modern vehicles, nevertheless they have been successful in performing local mechanised assaults on few ocasions in 2026
meanwhile russians continue being retarded and constantly repeat the same meatwave tactic lmao
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>>542089256
Child trafficking.
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>>542089573
But I checked with ChatGPT who's my friend and would never lie to me, and it said:
>At the beginning of the Winter War, the Soviet Union's apparent goal was to replace Finland's existing government with a Soviet-aligned Finnish government, headed by Finnish communist Otto Wille Kuusinen.
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Witkoff and Kushner just arrived in Kyiv
https://t.me/dronebomber/39958
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>>542089034 #
Poo, be quiet talking poo rubbish, you’re not a superpoor you’re just very very poor. This has nothing to do with you but now your garbage heap of a country which is the worst thing that ever happened is going to starve to desth en mass because of your axis of poors believing their own lies and thinking that they are powerful.
Go outside, wobble your head and think about that while you have a shit. Nobody cares what any jeet thinks, there’s things living inside cats bottoms that have more interesting higher level thoughts than any poo.
>fuck off poo
>go away poo
>ew, its poo
And you’re not having any free jam either.
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>>542090345
>the city was recaptured June 13 2014, stayed Ukrainian for eight years
Rofl.

Anyway, you know as well as I that there was significant support in the east for Russia circa 2014. It's not even that hard to figure out since the government they voted for was overthrown. It would be like if Trump was overthrown by the DSA and they banned English or some shit. Every "Red State" would immediately secede.

I always find it hilarious when they show videos of the new head of the Ukrainian Army(Drapatyi) driving through separatist blockades like he's some kind of hero.

Let's pretend Russia had done polls in 2014, would you have accepted them as valid? For that matter, does anyone believe anything Ukraine says? You're always asking me to provide something that doesn't exist, and you wouldn't believe even if I showed it to you.

The simply reality is, Ukraine is an absolute shithole ruled by a Jewish dictatorship. Why do you think you left? Mr. Eastern Ukrainian patriot.
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>>542089964
seventeen points. still hasn't answered:
- which Ukrainian military decision was determined by donor optics?
- would countries be free to reject Russian protection?
- how does Nordstream establish comparative subordination?

>wherever Germany goes, Europe follows
does it? if Berlin accepted your bargain but Poland, Finland, or Ukraine preferred a different security arrangement, whose decision governs? "wherever Germany goes, Europe follows" assumes the obedience you need to explain kek
Article 6 of Russia's December 2021 draft treaty: "all member states of NATO commit themselves to refrain from any further enlargement of NATO, including the accession of Ukraine as well as other states." that's not a balanced partnership - it's a veto over sovereign states' choices. cheap gas doesn't make that argument for you lmao

>12) Eastern Europe will do anything to keep the money flowing in
when Germany wants accommodation with Russia, you recognize an interest. when Eastern Europeans want a different arrangement, they'll "do anything for money." what observation would distinguish an independent preference from being bought off? kek

>6) 750+ million white Europeans from Lisbon to Vladivostok
Russia has 190+ ethnic groups. 2021 census: ethnic Russians ~70%, with 16.5 million refusing to declare ethnicity. Tatars, Bashkirs, Chechens, Avars, Kazakhs. Vladivostok is closer to Beijing than to Lisbon lmao

>14) Eastern Europeans destroyed Nordstream because they're jealous
German prosecutors charged Ukrainian nationals. alleged motive per the indictment: preventing Russia from profiting from gas sales. not jealousy kek
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>>542090579
ew
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>>542090431
Fedorov's push for asymmetry still winning and he's in far flung Roma
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>>542090619
>there was significant support in the east for Russia
two posts ago it was "overwhelming." now it's "significant." those are different claims. are you revising or still defending the original? kek

>if Russia had done polls, would you have accepted them?
I'd assess any poll on its merits: sample, question wording, dates, interviewing conditions. the ones already supplied aren't Russian or Ukrainian government:

KIIS (independent institute) April 2014: 27.5% Donetsk, 30.3% Luhansk supported joining Russia
Pew Research (American, non-partisan) March 2014: 26% in eastern Ukraine wanted reunification
KIIS December 2014: 88.3% nationwide rejected joining Russia. even in the east, 81.5% supported independent Ukraine

"does anyone believe anything Ukraine says" identifies zero methodological defects in any of these. which specific flaw invalidates them? lmao

>you wouldn't believe it even if I showed it to you
credible contrary evidence would change my assessment. would evidence of a substantial minority change your "overwhelming" claim? kek

>if Trump was overthrown and they banned English
you said two hours ago the ban "was never signed by the president." Turchynov vetoed it. Yatsenyuk confirmed the law remained in force in March 2014. your analogy assumes a ban that your own post says didn't happen lmao

t. Eastern Ukrainian
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>>542081930
>pic
Quick rundown on the Mariupol orbs? Soviet black magic?
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Everybody hates poo
Everybody hates Igor
Everybody hates Q
>if i wobble my head enough and chat enough pooshit then <SPLAT!>
Thats what happens when you lean out of train doors you smelly idiot. And its a good thing.
Igors got his benzene to cue up for now its ration day in mighty superpoor mother rusher the petrol station of the world and poo has a lot of shitting on everything to do and then some tasting it to make sure its properly browncoded and superpoor pilled. So don’t let us keep you fucking LOSERS any longer. Go get conscripted, ha. Haaa. Haha. Good. Conscripted & dead.
I fucking love the way thousands of you get blown up every day: superpoors are not people you’re just the plague.
PLEASE continue obeying that little scared shitless and very selfish old golem rat-faced ex kgb secretary pootin and do NOT stop.
Let NOBODY tell you to stop,
You MUST carry on. .
Dying like fuck.
Its absolutely brilliant.
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>>542090950
daria dugina's anal bead got hyper compressed during the special decarbonisation operation and became a little sun with room tempreture fusion properties
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>>542086995
>monke genuinely thought he could defeat NATO
NATO can’t defeat Russia on the ground they still have 20% of Yookranny xD
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>>542090658
>Which Ukrainian military decision was determined by donor optics?
Bakhmut. Didn't we already agree on this?
>would countries be free to reject Russian protection?
Where Russia got everything it wants? Or the real world?

Russia WANTS to be to Europe what America is now. My personal opinion is that Ukraine fucked over Europe with this war because prior to the war, Europe could essentially use the Russia/America rivalry to gain concessions from Russia. Which left Europe largely sovereign and wealthy. Once Ukraine started chimping out, it forced Europe to pick sides and left Europe completely dependent on the United States. While redirecting Russian resources east.

If the current dynamic remains, Europe is completely fucked.

>if Berlin accepted your bargain but Poland, Finland, or Ukraine preferred a different security arrangement, whose decision governs?
If Germany and Russia are allied, Eastern Europe has no alternative.

>when Germany wants accommodation with Russia, you recognize an interest. when Eastern Europeans want a different arrangement, they'll "do anything for money." what observation would distinguish an independent preference from being bought off? kek
I agree with your supposition, but I feel that Europe can only be united under Germans. Slavs are retards who just want to genocide each other and be ruled by kikes.
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>>542090431
>meanwhile russians continue being retarded and constantly repeat the same meatwave tactic lmao
That’s why Ukropidora lose the most important battles on the ground. xD
Ukrainians don’t know the sense of sacrifice contrary to the Russians.
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>>542091082
>but I feel that Europe can only be united under Germans
you're are feeling like a faggot.
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>>542090935
>KIIS
I literally ignore anything that comes out of the Ukrainian government.

>Pew Research (American, non-partisan) March 2014
To be fair, that was before Odessa and other crackdowns. But yes, in March, around a quarter of Eastern Ukrainians wanted to join Russia. And all Eastern Ukrainians wanted protections for Russian-speakers and greater autonomy. Guess what happened instead?
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>>542091082
That's the story of your fucking shill life. You "feel" everything and know less than nothing.
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>>542091220
>the most important battles
Battle of Kyiv - Ukrainian victory
Battle of Kharkiv - Ukrainian victory
Battle of Chernihiv - Ukrainian victory
Battle of Sumy - Ukrainian victory
Battle of Kherson - Ukrainian victory
Battle of Mykolaiv - Ukrainian victory

Oh but those aren't the most important battles, some bombed-out sub-80k prewar population shitholes in donbabwe are
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>>542084570
surprised pikachu.jpg
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it was tyrones family home before zogbots evicted his mother and bob moved in soon after
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>>542091252
Is that a new video?
Saved
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>>542084570
And murrica threatening to withhold even more of the shit they're not delivering no doubt.
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>>542085277
>backroom diplomacy
>with witless and kushner
lol. maybe them pillaging monkes couch looking for some loose change. That is the extent those two are capable of diplomacy of any kind
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>09.04.2026 - Infrastructure damage in Sochi. >The following were identified at the military >helicopter parking area:
>- One Ka-52 helicopter destroyed.
>- One Mi-28 helicopter destroyed.
>- One Mi-8 helicopter damaged.
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>>542085304
the time to deal with pidorstan conventionally was 80 years ago when the perfect opportunity presented themselves. Instead the allies thought its a great idea to bail one of the imperialists out that started the war. Now are completely confused why its threatening them day in and out while chimping out at everybody around it
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>>542091470
>Saved 23 mars 2026
kinda old
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>>542091598
ok, merci
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baker?
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>>542085304
The Germans were the good guys retard, and Lithuanians were right to side with them. Though who am I kidding, you are obviously Jewish.
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>>542091082
>Bakhmut. Didn't we already agree on this?
we agreed holding Bakhmut was Syrskyi's military decision. we did not agree donor optics determined it. you're recycling the battle's name while swapping the explanation kek
Syrskyi held Bakhmut as a military judgment call. the army removed him for it. Avdiivka - withdrawal ordered. Mariupol - garrison ordered to surrender. the one genuine hold-too-long case was a general's error

>if Germany and Russia are allied, Eastern Europe has no alternative
noted. smaller countries' preferences can be overridden by a German-Russian agreement they didn't consent to. that's the position now
but here's the problem: if the framework is "the stronger side decides," then you don't need Verdun, Hegel, Brzezinski, RAND, seventeen-point geopolitical manifestos, six YouTube videos, or an AI-generated Zelensky quote. you just say "Russia is stronger" and stop. the entire analytical scaffolding across three threads was unnecessary kek

the fact that you keep building justifications means you know "Russia is stronger" alone isn't sufficient. which means the justifications need to actually work. and they haven't - every source you've posted either didn't say what you claimed, contained its own disclaimer, or got debunked by your own screenshot lmao

>what observation would distinguish an independent preference from being bought off?
>I agree with your supposition
so no observation can. if Eastern Europeans agree with Russia, that's natural. if they disagree, they're bought. if they choose NATO, that's American money. if they choose Russia, that's genuine preference. the framework has no room for contrary evidence - which means it's not an analytical framework
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I'll bake, I guess.
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>>542091802
>the entire analytical scaffolding across three threads was unnecessary kek
I sort of get it because I do it too, but you're effortposting to the level of producing that quote for a guy who fucks dogs because his asian mutt half-sister wouldn't have cleft-lipped, club-footed incest babies with him. The ends don't always justify the means.
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>>542091220
Wypuścili cie z psychiatryka czy dostałeś przepustkę na weekend?
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>>542091952
Vēritās vōs līberābit.
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>>542092046
>>542092046
>>542092046

Baked.
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>>542091460
>Battle of Kyiv - Ukrainian victory
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>>542084466
>if they didn't rape first they would have been raped for sure
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>>542092147
I can still post dead russians and not get arrested so yes
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>>542092147
Remind us where Veh Deh Veh are at.



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