You only need 0.5 percent of Sahara to power the US and EU combined (including Britain). Oil and Nuclear will be obsolete just with Concentrated Solar Power.
>>542085623Bangladeshi are such animals
>>542085623based
>build energy generators in foreign lands>give us a better trade deal or we'll turn your entire country's power offGreat idea retard
>>542085531>blocks your path
>>542085531>sand storm lowers effectiveness>sand scratches the glass covering the panels lowering it's effectiveness
>>542085687supposedly they were hired to install those things and then they just didnt pay them, so assuming thats true this is actually justified
>>542085751I'd say we conquer the country first before moving expensive machinery into fucking Africa. We did it for Venezuela and Iran we can't do it for Algeria? Mali? It's just low iq niggers.
>>542085531>You only need 0.5 percent of Sahara to power the US and EU combinedOkay, you've generated the power in Africa. Now how do you propose bringing it over to the EU and US?You know that electricity does not infinitely go through wires, right?
>>542085531> casually bombs your shit to smithereens> nothing personnel kid
>>542085623The white guy equivalent is wanting to destroy datacenters.
>>542085876Africa to Europe via Spain, Spain to France, France to the UK using underwater cables (which already exist), then France to Germany, Germany to the Baltics, the Baltics to Finland, Sweden, and Norway, the Baltics to Russia, Russia to Alaska, Alaska to Canada, and Canada to the US. You don’t even need the sea route.Of course, Russia would need to be friendly for this to happen.
>>542085531>using such primitive things like solarnigga we goin' tesla wardencliffe.
>>542085531JUST BUILD THE FUCKING MOLTEN SALT REACTOR!YOU FUCKING RAN ONE FOR 20,000 HOURS IN THE FUCKING 60S!!!BUT NOOOOO, THAT DOESN'T MAKE PLUTONIUM FOR THE GOYIM BURNT OFFERING WEAPONS SO IT GOT SHIT CANNED. YOU KNOW WHO'S BUILDING FUCKING TWENTY OF THEM NOW? CHINA.STOP. FALLING. BEHIND.
>>542086055I don't think you realize the losses that would happen moving electricity that far via wires lmao. There's a reason why we don't just build all the power stations in the middle of the nation and connect them to everything.
>>542085827>assuming thats true this is actually justifiedincorrect.>install panels>get lower electric bills in lieu of payi see no issue.
>>542085531>You only need 0.5 percent of Sahara to powerSo. Just the biggest machine ever constructed in history, on the other side of the planet, in the most hostile environment imaginable, which is actively destructive to photovoltaic panels. Leftoids are mental retards, one and all.
>>542085865retarded idea.you don't need to conquer a land to run it, just feed and educate it.>gain trust>teach them the business deal is a good deal>rape the resources and make them pay taxes to mine it for youy'all don't know shit about statecraft.
>>542085531transporting all that power efficiently is impossible atm
>>542085531What about the daily sand storms retard?
>>542085876>he thinks electricity flows through wiresoh, anon...
>>542086181>Just wi-fi the electricity to other nations! It's so simple!Lmao
>>542085876>You know that electricity does not infinitely go through wires, right?actually it pretty much does. losses go down extremely fast the higher the voltage is. High voltage power lines only have very small losses even over very long distances.
>>542085531Chemical engineer, who works in the energ and chemical sector:I am 100% pro renewable energy as it is cheapter than nuclear and coal, less emission, better for the people and so on. The "sahara wonder" is also true, but it is impossible, as a centralised power unit would result in such a big transmission cable that we couldn't just plug the EU in and have electricity for ever.Concentrated solar power is cool and the biggest solar park is: Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum Solar Park in Dubai. I have visited the project before. The downsides is the water usage, as you constantly need to wash down the sand feom the heliostats (tennis field big mirrors). I've also talked with the professors from various Institutes, as the "molten salt" technology caused pretty much every single storage tank to rip, due to thermal stress on the material (600 °C on 20 °C tank is problematic). Nowadays pretty much 100% of the concentrated solar power projects come from china.Photovoltaic is much much cheaper, the good thing about the concentrated solar power technology is the storage ability, ut you are more or less limited to 100 MW units, which isn't big. Scaleability is limited.The idea you proposed has a better versio, where they cut the one big shara square into 50 equal squares and distribute them across the globe. Centralised energy generation (also nuclear) will never work. In the end, the final solution of energy generation in the future is always going to be a mix of various things. Solar won't solve aviation, or maritime transport. We will never see a battery or hydrogen plane / tanker crossing large distances. Maybe methanol
>>542086200it was simple in the early 1900s with tesla, it's simple now since physics doesn't change.welcome to the fold.
>>542086225You can only pump the voltage so high, and I don't think you realize how fucking far it is from the Sahara to the UK lmao. It'd be the single largest electrical network ever created by man.
>>542085798>>542086151It's just concentrated solar power. Solar Towers and Parabolic Trough. You don't need batteries at all it runs for 24/7 using molten salt thermal storage. Molten salt is 15x more dense than the best lithium battery today. Since Sahara is freezing cold at night, you could even use stirling engines to run the power using temperature difference.
>>542086225The higher the voltage, the thinner the copper, but the insulation has to be really thick to stop the voltage leaking out. So you don't gain that much beyond a certain limit
>>542086274>the single largest electrical network ever created by manlike the undersea cables for the internet?you gotta stop with your thoughts, aussie.you're just stupid.
>>542086225You would 100% use HVDC, or in German HGÜ for these distances & especially these amounts of energy. Even 1% loss of 1 GW transmission is 10MW heat dissipation, thats a lot.
>>542086274Superconductor research is ongoing. Theoretically you could power continents with a single cable which is not even conductive. The only catch is it needs to be cooled with -100c.
Why don't we just give every household solar panel on their roof, that's a lot of surfaces covered from residential home alone with the purpose of decentralizing the power itself Less headache to the central power!
>>542086075>>542086271Is there any truth to the Tesla's theory?
>>542086098The fact they are even discussing giant solar farms as an alternative to nuclear energy, should tell you that you are speaking to midwits with no understanding of how an electrical grid works.
>>542086241With the Dubai one, German Science Guy made a video about it. It runs for 20 years without any major replacements and it's still upgrading to fit the energy needs. Solar tower and Parabolic Trough works really well.https://youtu.be/TPMvBeJMCqg?si=Zhf8zjzLXJVMqzqM
>>542086225You are an idiot. The losses compound over distances. The highest voltage system in the world is HVDC and it loses energy in conversion. Even UHV AC applications still lose energy, and building at that scale, you'd lose GW of energy in transmission.
>>542086527Nuclear literally is bombs in major cities. A regular war can turn into a nuclear one with nuclear reactors. Even a Russian/Ukrainian drone swarm targeting the facility will kill tens of millions and make half the continent radioactive. Uranium runs out in 20 years if it is scaled up to meet global energy needs.Solar deathray beats nuclear all day.
>>542085531get ready to pay out the ass then pigskin. You aint getting nothing for cheap
>>542085531trvke
>>542086169HVDC lines can go to 10000KM with 2% energy loss
>>542086924Nuclear =/= Only UraniumI didn't even say we should only use Uranium you mouth breather. No sense in talking to an idiot that thinks we can build a transmission grid for the whole world, off a single point of generation.>>542086768
>>542087025we can also build them off shore in the mediterrenean if you want to act like divas
This is Nevada Solar One. The most successful solar plant in US that is Parabolic Trough, a type of concentrated solar power.
>>542085531>You only need 0.5 percent of Sahara to power the US and EU combined (including Britain). Oil and Nuclear will be obsolete just with Concentrated Solar Power.nah you see, you need to buy oil so US can pay for its national debt
>>542087102parabolic troughs are the wayjust elevate them and you have usable space underneath
>>542087078Thorium is literally pajeet scam. You eat poop so there's no point in taking to a pajeet demon like you.
>>542085876Giant Ships filled to the brim with batteries. Like a big fuck off floating battery. Fill the cunt up and transport them to docks to unload their charges like oil trankers.
>>542087133Yeah that works too.
also batteries need to changethis guy invented a battery based on paper and carbon that is as powerful as a commercial aa battery but its 100% biodegredable and cheap to make. he even shows you how to make them yourselfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD2_NNx1k10
>>542086710Maybe the picture attached will make it clearer. The only active projects are in china right now and it's not due to lack of funding. photovoltaic + Battery stroage will likely become the much cheaper option. I like concentrated solar power a lot, because an an energy engineer, it combines all the stuff you learn in university. I even wished to go to chile to the Fraunhofer institute for further research on the field, till i realised: It is indeed a fun technology, just not feasible as a global solution. Also again water useage + desert is always a problematic combination. They have 2 groups going around constantly to clean the mirrors
>>542087135What crack are you smoking you dumb nigger. Thorium was around before jeets could even understand chemistry. If they even do now. The chinks are pushing into it massively. No more yous, you absolute retard.
>>542085623Would unironically do this if wipipo built this
>>542087159Oil is 25x more dense than the best lithium battery today and 50x more dense in weight. Even oil takes multiple ships imagine the tens of thousands of battery ships kek.
>building the panels on the earthjust build a Dyson Sphere already
>>542086274
>>542087251Nobody said it will be cheaper. CSP just takes more money since the generator and steam turbine involved is 100s of millions of dollars in itself since Siemens will literally rape you with their shitty overpriced monopoly. But it can provide a stable baseload and once it's ready, the cost will become nearly nothing to run it.In other words, FUCK SIEMENS.
>>542085531How much land it would take to build those panels?>>542086048>wantingThat's right, Amerimutt doesn't do shit.
>>542085531yeah we know, humans stand to lose a lots of big bux, greedy bastards.. energy is literally free,think of the fly flying around yah room for three days straight non stop, how he do it.free source of energy lads.
>>542085531How does the electricity get there? By magical powers?Must be. You open your mouth and maginal diarrhea flows out.
>>542085623verminindia needs to get serious and clean it up
you can tell the arguments against it are made by complete idiots
>>542087418That's for Photovoltaics lol. You don't need rare earths at all with Concentrated Solar Power. Literally just concrete and mirrors (sand).
>>542085531sand people roam there.
>>542085798thats becuh you fucking retards that cut costs in production of dense materials, chinese new diamond glass..
>>542085782Sahara famously doesn't recieve any clouds and rains.
>>542085687They were bloody pakis bastards
>>542085531just transfer electricity across half the globe, no problem, broyou also can't regulate how much you get, so it will always be too much during some hours and nothing during othersAnd this is before you consider wildlife stripping the panels for parts
>>542086489without putting much thought, I think anon is talking about batteries
>>542087159fucking heck lad.why did you just give the orld that patent.you aim to please to much, yu could of been a billionaire. dude
>>542087605He said Wardenclyffe and 1900s. It's Nikola Tesla.
>>542085623Why exactly did they do this?It seems so self destructive. Like attacking a coal power plant.I'm trying to imagine why. They don't look like they work for a living so surely have no connection to this field.And it doesn't look like a place farmers would have lost to industrial expansion unlike their prawn farming.
>>542085751>>542085876>>542086151>>542087468>>542087604>Need>Saudi >Cock Utterly buckbroken.
>>542087564Germans owned African continent it can still be done again. Also Sahara doesn't host anybody, it's hostile for niggers, entirely empty.
>>542086924>drone swarm targeting the facility will kill tens of millions and make half the continent radioactiveAll the sentiment against nuclear power comes from people who have zero understanding of how nuclear reactors even work and what are the risks involved.
>>542087713we already had a superior source of power but retarded communists had to ruin it for everybody
>>542087888>Between the 1950s and 1990s, some 200,000 barrels of radioactive waste were dumped by European nations into the North East Atlantic. After several years of preparation, a scientific mission set sail on 15 June to assess the condition of the barrels today and their effects on surrounding ecosystems. >superior
>>542087851Chernobyl killed an entire race and made them cancerous (Belarus). Fukishima still barely got rid of a single litre of radioactive water from their power plant.
>>542087522It's like talking to middleschoolers. They just can't accept Solar is superior.
>>542087851Doesn't nuclear power use uranium? You would be relient on few countries outside Europe anyway
>>542085531That is great and all, but you can't transfer that amount of energy across vast distances without some sort of super conductor, which is STILL all theoretical.
>>542088105Ramp it up to 10 million volts and there probably aren't much losses
>>542088081we need to cull these peoplethey're in the way of progress
redpill me on bio-butanol
>>542088138I think we would unironically better off converting it all to hydrogen, shit it out and then convert it back to electricity.
>>542088257Ship it out* lol
>>542088257Yeah thought of that too. Maybe even put it on an electric train. Energy is fairly easy to solve if people have a will for it
>>542087777checkedcolonies back when?
>>542088105Few superconductors could get the job done.
>>542087995The negative effects of nuclear waste are grossly exaggerated. It's fine to bury them in a distant barren area and let the waste slowly return to the earth for natural recycling.
>>542087995Failure of regulations from earlier times. The amount of waste produced is really quite tiny.
China installs more solar panels every year than the total number of solar panels that exist in the US
>>542088536if you support nuclear and say the effects are exagerrated then you should agree to have the waste stored at your place
>>542085531Youre gonna need sand/wind walls.
>>542088510I love the idea of concentrated solar farms in general, but making it the hub(s) for world consumption rather than local consumption is a logistical nightmare.Fission might even be more realistic
>>542086294at this scale, abrosption refrigeration becomes viable, and having a cold heat sink made of wax or sand or stone, will work for district cooling.or delta T heat engines.
>>542088617Fusion*I can't type for shit today sheesh
>>542088536>>542088598If it's a basin hill or something like Yucca Mountain or next to a bunch of nuclear testing areas it doesn't really matter and can't possibly get that much more fucked. It's better than storing it on site for decades because morons won't allow it to be moved to a longer term storage like Finland>>542087995Yeah and nobody died. What's your point? It's not that big of a deal actually.
>>542088597Aren't they only good for like 10 years tops?cells being burnt out or something seems rather inefficient but what do I know. More like a very polluting affair with plexiglass or worse, plastics being just dug down I recon
>>542088650your heliostats need small drone tech to capture sunlight efficiently.
>>542088773and networked power distribution.
>>542088765the only purpose for nuclear plants is to enrich plutonium for nuclear weaponsin terms of energy production they are completely obsolete china has built a solar farm with the output of 5 nuclear plantsyou can build those farms quickly and cheaply compared to nuclear plantsnuclear is for trannies and retards that think man walked on the moon
>>542088801you can use vacuum distillation towers to make the water to clean the glass, using absorption chillers to make the solar heat more efficient.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vmDJ99Cosg
>>542088598Living right next to it would be perfectly safe.Of course maintenance still has costs, mainly for security but also all the regulatory compliance stuff. As long as all this is covered, I'd have no problem living nearby. Much safer than almost any other industry you can think of.
>>542088431Very soon. Europe wouldn't organise an invasion since it's under treaties but US can.
>>542088885vacuum desalination tubes is 1/3rd the operating cost of an ordinary desalination plant because of the coefficient of performance.
>>542085531Yeah but that doesn't make the jews any money so, not gonna happen sadly.
>>542088617Fusion is a scam. The biggest US research company Helion is owned by Scam Altman and they barely made any progress.
>>542086048>The white guy equivalent is wanting to destroy datacenters.flock cameras*
>>542089030Nobody needs their permission. Sweden has literally researched electric roads and proved that you don’t even need to stop to charge an EV. Once the EU shifts significantly to the right, electricity should be free, powered by localized, decentralized power plants.
>>542089277>should be freeevery man in a position to make this statement true has been killed by those with interest in profiteeringevery good idea ends with a kike billing a hitman contract with your name on it
>>542089277That's dumb because you can just wirelessly charge in your garage or EV carparks instead of putting all that shit in the road
>>542088984of course im german so im good at engineering, but im also scott/irish, so I have a relatable sense of humor.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biqnTaABeNEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3bJnKmeNJY
>>542085623Based. Timmy was trying to capture the sun spirit
>>542089277I'm surprised more tweakers and fent zombies don't steal more wiring/chargers for EVs and the renewable powerlines. It requires more transmission lines. Copper prices go up. I know it already happens, but still where are the wire goblins at?
>>542085531Yes, if only it weren't one of the harshest environments on earth that will casually ravage anything you think you can build or maintain there.It's lesser destructive than the sea to windmills admittedly but still similarly retarded as the desert is not nearly as easy to get around in.Why are leftists so comically bereft of genuine realism?
>>542089461It's not that bad, just put a new plastic film on them once every couple years
>>542089406>im an influencer, I get millions!>Im a inventor, musk steals everything from me.Influencers get everything.Inventors get nothing.
>>542089030Semi-truthJews make the money to start off with but yes you're completely right if other Jews don't get money from this it's not going to happen. Anything that promotes independence from the financial system is a direct threat to Jewry itself. How to do this has always been the meta question.
>>542089502nothing gets invented.
>>542085531Not going to happen as it will ave serious impact on the earths eco system and weather so bin this fantasy
>>542085531The best bit is, we can use this to go to space.A solar farm can split sea water into Hydrogen and Oxygen. The same electricity can also chill that Oxygen down to liquid temps. Then, using a process called the Sabatier reaction, we can combine atmospheric CO2 with the Hydrogen to make methane and water. The water can go straight back in the sea. The methane is chilled and...viola! Starship fuel.Of course, you are going to need a LOT of solar panels, but Elon is building the worlds biggest solar panel factory, so...We can literally power our rockets with sunlight. And the best bit is, once the fuel is burned it just goes right back where we got it. It's a carbon flatline, if you care about that sort of thing.
>>542089501Oh sure, that's gonna save them from the mobile dunes, sandstorms, incredibly harsh sun, unimpeded winds, sudden flashfloods whenever it rains and not to mention the islamic sandniggers that inhabit thr place.Like literally even just getting there to replace a film would be a monumental challenge in that location on that scale.No seriously being as bereft of genuine realism as you types are has got to stem from severe cognitive impairment.
>>542087688the company that installed these panels failed to pay the local town the fee it promised for them to approve of the constructionthey are 100% based for doing it
>>542085623They were absolutely right to do that. They were smart enough to discover that anti hail cannyons were causing draught. Anti hail cannyons are use to stop rain in order to favor those shitty panels.Guess what? I'm certified on those panels, I hold a certification on PV installations. And my conclusion is: Photovoltaic Fields are hell on Earth. We should all have our own panels (just a couple) on our roofs. Instead, we have those crystal lakes of the devil.
>>542085531>entire continent goes into blackout for 12 hours every day
>>542089679It pretty much already does that already, just less predictably so.It's a dumb idea but that part would be an improvement.Also molten salt/sand batteries can store accumulated energy just fine and are trivial to maintain provided you don't move them.
>>542089277>every man in a position to make this statement true has been killed by those with interest in profiteeringThey can't stop us all.
>>542089364>>542089831
>>542089679So do this instead:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPyaz4fw1XoIf you put several dozen of them along the western coast of the Sahara, you could create enough electricity for half of Spain, generating money for Africa, and use the condensed steam to irrigate the desert.Unless your country is made of niggers. Then those things won't happen.
>>542089831...Just because the dead are silent does not mean there are not in fact many "alls" that were fully stopped.Jews surviving genuine genocide makes them the exception.
>>542089562tell us about that impact
>>542089516https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIgk5guzSLQ
sandstorm destroy the panels. You would need to create a giant grove of trees around them
>>542089621>the company didn't pay a protection fee>the monkeys are basedSo does the town own that land?
>>542086157We've been feeding and educating the niggers for half a century and so far it's only made them worse. When and how do we reach the magical tipping point where they learn to stop acting like animals?
>>542089901Buy an ad and kiss my ass while I loudly fart on your face, Elon. Eat shit.
>>542089965>sandstorm incoming!>cover panels>sandstorm has passed!>uncover panels
>>542086241You are just a retarded white monkey, as all Germans are. Renewable energy has eROI too low to maintain pre-ai civilization, imagine post-ai. What's the eROI of photovoltaic you dumb Arab mutt? Lucky if you reach 10 with hybrid rectification, under 10 if you store it, as batteries are net consumers of energy in long run. Wind is about 12 but the best places were built a decade ago, and now the new ones are under 10. What else you have? Hydro is the only one with eROI over 14 that's the number we need to maintain pre-ai civilization, but it's incredibly limited to special places with a huge amount of rain and enough geographic formations to be able to build the dams, and even then you are lucky if you have an eROI over 35. post-ai you need 27 eROI. Coal is 30, petroleum varies from 32 to 45. Combined cycle natural gas is around 50.Now the fun part: 2°-3° gen nuclear is 75. 4° gen is over 120 and thorium reach over 1000.So yeah, you are a dumb mutt nigger that are the historic demise of all Europe since you learn how to cross the mountains. I shit on your degree and your supposed good education in 2020. It's a farse living in the myth of good German science, that has need demolish by external and internal enemy agents. The best science in Europe is made in Italy France and Spain, and soon also in Hungary and Poland.
>>542090012i though mexicans were cool but maybe americans are right about you
>>542089965Trees would atract rain through evapotranspiration. Photovoltaic Fields use all anti rain technology on their hands. These people want to destroy Earth, power demand is merely an excuse to rip life from this planet.
>>542089616Europe was extremely harsh too but we built infrastructure. No sand dune can compete with a bulldozer
>>542090052I have some violent diarrhea for you.
>>542087777>Germans owned African continentlay off whatever you inhaled before making thread
>>542090120right back at you hombre
>>542085876Wait until you find out how much coal and oil is consumed to transport coal and oil around the globe
PV Fields make no sense. They are a poor excuse to make hell on Earth, to kill ecosystems. To make other planets urgently needed to repopulate. Fuck you, Elon. Kiss my farts.
>>542090228these aren't photovoltaics idiot
>>542088598>agree to have the waste stored at your placeWhat if instead all the countries store it in india?
>>542090050A 2024 Nature Energy study finds median EROI of ~11.4 for PV and ~23.6 for wind, and shows renewables still deliver more net useful energy than the fossil-fuel mix even after accounting for intermittency and storage. Fossil fuels fall to ~3.5 at the useful energy stage because combustion wastes so much energy.https://www.nature.com/articles/s41560-024-01518-6No established scientific rule says civilisation “needs EROI 14” or AI “needs 27”. The EROI literature explicitly describes those upper societal thresholds as increasingly speculative. And batteries are not “net energy consumers”. They have manufacturing costs and round trip losses, which reduce system EROI, but published analyses still find positive lifetime energy returns. Li-ion storage has reported ESOI values well above 1. quoting EROI >120 for future Gen-IV reactors or >1000 for thorium as though those are measured operating values is so retarded it's laughable. Gen IV systems are still developmental, so those are model dependent projections, not empirical fleet data.
>>542090050>ROIThe what?
>>542086225And you gonna build a high voltage grid...through fucking Sahara? And Mediterranean? I have a better suggestion, how about all those datacenters leave us and build their shit in Sahara?
>>542090501>how about all those datacenters leave us and build their shit in Sahara?Brown person detected
>>542089901just fucking ask ai i cant remember everything off the top of my head your primitive toilet cleaning nigger brain
>>542090783>hurr durr ask aiYour opinion is now worthless.
My dad was a marine.He taught me to be so nice I would never get a woman.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h67JpMyrOVE
>energy source in Africa
>>542085531>And here we have the IQ50 take from the mental asylum.Thank you for that but nobody asked retard.
>>542089971my bad, didn't remember the detailsit was the workers (and their families) of the town who worked therethe construction company tried to scam them out of the agreed on payand yes i still stand with the fact that this was the based course of actionhttps://observers.france24.com/en/20180626-fake-post-claims-indian-villagers-smashed-solar-panels-angering-gods
>>542091034https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksue0DIcZ-4
>>542090783Lmao you lost
>>542090783what a fucking retard. never type again you human toilet
>>542091164That makes a lot more sense now. Thanks.
>>542086048Also based
>>542091073>IQ50Weird way to phrase the IQ scale. What's 50 IQ about it? Tell me.
>>542090996why didn't you teach me to be a mean lying asshole so that women liked me?
>>542091695you wanted me to be a beta provider, instead of an alpha breeder.coolI declare exterminatus.
>>542091767siri show me the breeding rates of western civilization.
>>542091854siri, show me the breeding rates of CIVILIZATION.
>>542089507>How to do this has always been the meta question.Just vote the right people lol
>>542091879Dad, Mom, Sister, why did you raise me to give women the ick?
Hey hillary clinton, you wanna fucking fight right now?
Beginning summoning ritual of hillary clinton.Clinton foundation is a scam.Chelsea isn't even bill's kid.Hillary has sacrificed children to rothschildOK, now that you are here....Do you wanna fucking GO, hillary?
>>542089971>but do they have a piece of toilet paper that says they own the place they inhabit? because if not then whoever has the very important piece of toilet paper can do whatever they want!! it's the law!!hahaha welcome to the real world
>I want the jews to stop attacking me>The jews aren't attacking you!How about you actually fucking check.
We need nukes aimed at every corner of the planet, so that jews can keep divide and conquer going to keep their power.LOL.
the hilarious part is, if I tried to destroy this civilization, women would actually want to breed with me.
>>542085531>build critical infrastructure for western civilization in the backyard of every violent country that hates western civilizationBold move but also stupid.Even if it wasn't for that, the problem isn't collecting the energy, it's transporting it over long distances. You can gather tons of power at the equator, but good luck getting it anywhere near the upper or lower latitudes. That's why oil is so popular, it's like a liquid battery that can be taken anywhere and used there.
>>542086048except we don't need data centers. the only purpose they will serve is to enslave the humanity further
>>542092620Superconductor wires can handle countries with of power within a single cable. Also this tech is perfect only after Africa has been colonized.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=votcOf5cYCM
>>542085623ain't there like hundreths of volts on a string of these things? I'm planning an installation on my home currently. Learning quite a few interesting things. Like for example - you can't just put a circuit breaker in the installation to prevent arcing. It 'll never trigger. So you have to route the cables to the code, to prevent burning your fucking house down. I thought every retard can do it, but turns out even for this stuff you need specialized knowledge.
>>542088053chernobyl is already safe to visit. not safe to live and plant crops, but that's in an area of maybe 100km2. And it was one of the most retarded nuclear reactor designs in historybut yeah, the war targetting is a thing. With chimps like russia, outside of the border, you risk that they'll target these powerplants and cause the meltdown
>>542086097>MOLTEN SALT REACTOR!that shit only change heat exchange medium. The way that the reactor works doesn't chagne
>>542088598This statement makes no sense.People that want windmills and say it's perfectly safe don't want to live next to them either.
stop doing any business with chads.ever again.
>>542092776nah, it’s basically plug n’ play. you can watch jewtube videos and learn the entire trade. just create a circuit using the panels and run it to an inverter using the proper gauge wire and you’re done. i’m a solar technician and i could train a nigger to do the job without getting torched. the main risk is the nigger falling off the roof. well the actual risk is the nigger, but you get it.
>>542093073straight up refuse service to all chads.let them starve in the dark.
>>542090952>>542091374>>542091427Ask it to give you scientific links to the fucking studies done researching it you worthless braindead pieces of human shit.So fucking use your 3 braincells and go learn something new by researching it yourselfs innstead of relying on secondhand opinions on internet forums..
>>542093094>nahevery panel has 40V, you string 10 of them in series it's 400V. and if there's a fault in the line, it's guaranteed fire if it's routed through flamable area. How are you a solar technician without knowing this?
>>542093101Pencil dick big mad
>>542093037no that would be comparing living next to a nuclear plant
>>542087590Heat significantly reduces the efficiency of solar panels.
>>542093259>noNot a compelling argument. Try again.
>>542085531All the power would be lost transferring the electricity true the cables with those distances its a good idea when your twelve years old
>>542093416>didn't read past the 'no'also, people use windmills for their homes
>>542093561>windmillswind turbines
>>542085623Those are solar panels. A different thing that op is talking about.
>>542085531Maintenance. Security. Inefficiencies.
>>542093648all issues that only exist in the limited nuclear brain
>>542093561>didn't readI did read it, it simply made no sense so it was as comelling as "no".Again, if windmills are so good and safe, why do nobody live next to them?What about recycling plants? Recycling is amazing so why isn't people moving next to them?
>>542089971Bro, I see so many shit takes from u faggots its crazy. >Just roll over and take it, its capitalism after all, they have the jewish lawyers on their side.
Instead of moving up the Kardashev Scale and consuming the sun, engineer low power systems. Fungi, not data centers.
>>542093292>Heat significantly reduces the efficiency of solar panels.Not in CSP's, they don't. Solar tower and Parabolic Trough are meant for heat. Dubai sets all their solar in straight desert.
>>542085531transport and storage. this is where that fucking LK99 superconductor shit would have benefited the whole of humanity, you can always have panels getting power from the sun at any point in the 24h cycle, on the planet all around it, and transport that power in real time to every other part of the planet, including the ones that are in night time. no losses power transport.but even if that shit is real we cannot do it, because muh countries muh power muh wars muh gotta steal eachother's resources and shitalso what you need to understand is that countries sabotage eachother on energy access. all want to have control over energy, who gets what, for what in return. it's a fucking shitshow
>>542093504We make it happen. Nuclear will never reach the aesthetics of Solar.
>>542086048>Not wanting to destroy datacenters.FIFY. Smashing down solar panels makes your electricity bill go through the roof. Leaving the datacenters alone achieves the same result.
>>542094312Why doesn't globohomo/WEF just force it? They already control every country.
>>542094312Storage is already here. CSP runs 24/7 with molten salt.
>>542090411That ai you used is not taking into consideration curve demand and baseline / variable production, that reduces the net eROI of renewables. That number you give for wind is for gen 2 windmills that had the increase of height and motor efficiency BUT also weren't using rectifiers, and used gear reductors, so it was giving momentum to the grid. New gen have more eROI in theory that gets demolish the moment you lose the momentum and has to rely on fossil fuels and nuclear giant turbines inertia. If you favor inertial wheels to artificially give inertia, eROI is even less than 1°gen generators. And if you take into consideration demand curve, the real return is lower than 14.The number of 14 has been known for years for educated people, not that I could assume a cangaroo fucker would know of course, but you should use a better ai next time. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421513003856And this was before ai, now it's 27 or more. Results are not published yet as the study is still in the making but i have insider info you may or not believe. What is know is that 14 is the bare minimum, not the average or maximum number.Also, fast breeder reactors of liquid fuel has not only 1000 but a range between 1000 to 2000 eROI. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306454915000730I know it's difficult to process for someone that had criminals, murders, and genetic discards as ancestors, but you can take your time to read.
>>542085531But in one day of wind the sand will totally destroy that.
>>542093504there was supposed to be a massive solar project in australia, would transport power up north to some asian country. there were some losses but made sense in the end.
Jesus, I thought poltards were at least not entirely retarded. There is a thing called attenuation. Look it up. Even with AC the end point is entirely too far from the source. Room temperature conductivity isn't a thing, yet. Get your physics figured out first before making a fool of yourself.
>>542090423Energy return of investment. If you get less than 14 Jules of energy per Jule invested in a energy generation process, you are wasting energy and time, as a modern society need a minimum of 14 times the energy invested or will collapse. Renewables have LESS than 14 in all fronts if you take into consideration everything down the line and consumption. That means renewables are not useful for broad cases and only in fringe cases where in that local case eROI is less or equal of what the system is capable In that zone.
Why can't we have nuclear powered steam trains? That would be peak kino.
>>542086048Why because it's opposite land in America?
>>542095261Because communists did a scorched earth strategy in the realm of public opinion decades ago, and they disappeared without deactivating the ticking bomb
reminder the solar power is making electricity MORE expensive
>>542095261Because boiling water is bad according to leftists. They're mad about data center cooling for this. Hydrogen trains might have this effect of chilled mist.
>>542085531https://youtube.com/shorts/Cf38Dh2thZ4
>>542095148Nope.
>>542089277You are forgetting about solar fricking roadways. The ultimate meme product.
>>542095261
>>542085531Then go off the grid, only use an electric car, don't buy anything that has plastic in it and eat ze bugs.
>>542086097Blame the faggot people. The people had the choice to vote for nuclear-friendly politicians in the past, but didn't.
>>542086489>Is there any truth to the Tesla's theory?>THEORY >Tesla had 2000 public patents>entire DC power tested and built by Tesla >god knows how many patents and papers they hid.Yes you can say this.
>>542085531>See guys, we could actually be living RENT FREE!It won't work while being massively centralized, as it would be subjected to relentless sabotage by Finance Capital (ie Jews).Only a massively distributed network would be safe, robust and resilient...This means less efficiency, but that's OK because the Input Energy is free.So, yes, while the Geolocation is the best possible one for Collection, it just won't ever happen for the reasons that I described.
>>542085531>You only need 0.5 percent of Sahara to power the US and EU combinedhow do you transport the energy, dummy?
>>542086274>>542086200>>542086098>that far via wirestl;dr even modern "scientists" now realize energy doesn't travel through wires. There are some physics tests on YT that basically confirm electricity (and everything else) is FIELDS. >and not discreet stuff like electrons, which is a theoretical conceptSo, fields propagate everywhere. Electrical fields tend to "travel" further when you have wires there, metal is a good conductor.
>>542087301What do you mean, dense? What has that got to do with anything?
>>542088770depends on the quality of the panels. I have 4kw of panels from 2012 and they still output 3.7kw at peak times.
>>542096122I don't doubt Tesla's legitimacy.
>>542096206In Atacama we just built solar farms and people have their own panels we solved all our power problems with themThe temperature lowers during the night so it improves distribution
>>542085531What's the transmission loss? What's the cost of maintaining a massive solar field in the middle of the least hospitable part of the entire world barring antarctica?
>>542096269Superconductors, chuddie.
>>542086106>Get told you will get paid for something>They refuse to pay you>A-at least you'll lower my electric bills, right? Please?You're Jewish
>>542088597>>542088856You confuse the reason and china's necessity to survive. China also massively builds nuclear power plants. Can tell us whY??Because China doesn't have oil. Countries that have oil and gas use oil and gas. Countries that don't use nuclear and solar. >can't survive on solar alone
>>542085623Good, now buy some French electricity.
>>542092776Brainlet alert
>>542085531How do you get the power from the sahara to the US?
>>542096270it's the EM field, one entity. you can have galvanic isolation with transformers where there's no electric contact between input and output. but you need wires. >>542096270>There are some physics tests on YTthat veritasium video is kind of cheeky in the way he's presenting it. that's a transmission line and that whole "instantaneous" shit is because of capacitance>tl;dr even modern "scientists" now realize energy doesn't travel through wires.unplug your computer. surely it will still work
>>542096365>Transmission lossIf superconductors were used, it's almost nothing.>What's the cost of maintaining a massive solar field I'd say AI and robotics. You do need a solid defence since ISIS is a major thing in Africa.
>>542096510>modern electricity is DESIGNED to travel through wires>this means unplugging your computer proves anything>while there are cheapo remote phone chargers everywhere.Come on now, buy a wireless phone charger. https://www.amazon.com/b/?_encoding=UTF8&node=21209124011&bbn=2335752011
>>542096509the hormussy
>>542096657Shut the fuck up retard
>>542085531Whose gonna tell him how large .5% of the Sahara is. Also inform him, and the math guy of power line bleed.
>>542096811Why?
>>542086157>you don't need to conquer a land to run it, just feed and educate it. This only works in white nations.
>>542097158>L-look at these fantasy technologies that could totally solve the massive issues with this projectChinese spies snip one wire and all of America loses its power grid, they snip another wire and Europe loses their entire power grid, don't even need a bombing campaign. Also if AI powered bots maintain the panels who maintains the bots? Are you buying millions of bots to clean panels and then hundreds of thousands more to maintain those bots, plus millions of drones to keep flying in replacement parts and bots and new solar panels? Where do you get those solar panels from? (Protip: They come from China), where do you get these magic AI bots from (protip: They'd come from China).Your entire idea solves zero issues and would cost hundreds of billions to make and tens of billions a year to maintain.
>>542096707you do not understand much about the subject. I recommend either shutting the fuck up, either post in a manner where you signal you are an imbecile.to dumb it down for you, the wireless charging shit is lossy as fuck. and you need to have them close. it's a convenience thing, for mobile shit so you don't fuck around with WIRES, because you can afford the efficiency hit, since we're talking about low power anyway.veritasium was rightfully criticized for that video because a lot of idiots like you misunderstand and misrepresent it
>>542096464you're the brainlet
>>542086106I doubt these weird jeet villages have much use for electricity beyond charging the porn tablets
>>542097472So tell me, when has chinks ever snipped one of our undersea internet fiber cables? US has oil reserves for that scenario and it's better to diversify with PVs locally.
>>542097472They can't do that if you put solar panels in every block to bad that means you can't centralize energy profits like that
>>542097789https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy3zy9jvd4o
>>542093978Why post a failed salt tower project thats not worth dismantling
>>542098200That's within chinks.
>>542086048Dumbest post of the thread award
>>542098277>China would never do anything to harm America even though they've shown the capacity and willingness to do it while at war
>>542096413>Can tell us whY??nuclear weapons
>>542085623why?
>>542096413>Countries that have oil and gas use oil and gas.Because nuke and solar are artificially suppressed in those cuntries due to lobbying. Plenty of SEA nations use oil and gas despite having neither.
>>542098242That's literally Dubai you dumb moron. The most successful solar power plant ever. It's on Phase 4 now meaning it's actively expanding. Weirdly only the American ones fail i wonder why.
Solar does not create energy it drains it. In the absence of subsidies and fossil fuels it is nothing. If you tried to use energy from solar to make more solar you would have diminishing returns until bankruptcy and no energy.
>>542086048>Energy and corruption are the same thing for society bro!U r Jewish in nature
>>542099405Is all about who profits isn't itNot people and their energy needs, otherwise they would instal solar panels instead of flock cams in the hood
>>542098351China is literally nothing. A single sanction would kill all of their economy and a single missile strike would kill 400 million people with floods.
>>542087713>Utterly buckbroken.Just run an extension cord, eh? Leftoids really are the faggotiest sort of faggots.
>>542085623fukin lmao jeets, go back to burning cow dung pies the good ol ways
>>542085531>Just mine 80% of the earth's surface to get all the materials for the memelar farm
>>542085623if rightwing fossil energy junkies would do this oyu would say based
>>542085531Energy prices are one of the main ways jews keep you from being prosperous. While jews run your society, energy prices will always be burdensome for the average person.
>>542085531 only 0.5% of the saharaOP is a mind raped unaware low T monkey rat confirmed.
>>542086241Based Oil Drum poster.
>>542099962Lmao
>>542087590Sahara is in Africa, which I'm not sure if you're aware, is where niggers originally came from. The entire continent of Africa does not have a single weather radar
>>542096413Anon who actually has a functioning brain, what a rare occurrence on pol Limits to growth is an excellent documentary that more people need to be aware of and it's a great starter for understanding EROI
>>542099938Truth. Control energy and you control everything. It costs a thousand dollars a month in US even with all the nuclear and natural gas turbines. Electricity should be free.
>>542085531good but we can't rely on any single and sole power source, it always needs to be a mixture, and we can't rely on any single geographic region either, so nuclear, solar, wind, and fossil for when everything else fails or is momentarily down
>>542101298Definitely. There should be solar panels on every rooftop, battery storage, and a decentralized grid.
>>542085531And who is gonna sweep the sand and dust on the panels, you?>>542085623>any topic>timmy: "aaargh I hate india, I hate indians they are far inferior to me I hate their shit skin color they should not exist I hate jeets exterminate them I hate poos I hate fecaloids aaaarrrrghh!">timmy's life is not improved
>>542085687>Bangladeshi
>>542085876Tesla would disagree with you. If he hadn't been sabotaged by the copper and rubber barons who saw the potential for wires everywhere forever he would have demonstrated wireless electricity sent from NYC to London
>>542086327What happens when a giant squid takes a chunk out of it and the whole ocean becomes electrified? It would kill all the whales and jellyfish and what would we do with all that rotting meat floating around? We couldn't even collect it all because if we touched the electric ocean water we'd die. What then?(I'm not that stupid I just thought I'd remind everyone of when trump said that about electric boats)
