This is why you should be a Communist. Elites fear us.
>its another retarded twitter screenshot thread
>>542089029Socialism for the rich. Capitalism for the poor.
>>542089029Diseases are not exactly feared in a sense that is positive for them.
>>542089029They fear you like they fear a tweaking nigger on the street. You are unpredictable retards with no concept of consequences.They fear Fascism, which they perceive as any organisation of white men for their own interests; because they know we can actually annihilate them and replace their dystopia with a flourishing nation of happy and healthy people. You'll note how they crack down on us over social media posts and even putting up stickers saying "white lives matter". If a dozen white men organise on the streets there are riot police sent, politicians denouncing them and the media running hit pieces for weeks. Meanwhile if some communists or anarchists burn down a neighbourhood or riot for months on end; they just ignore it because while you might be unpredictable retards who might stab someone in public without warning; you pose no existential threat to the system. If anything they see communists and anarchists as useful idiots to be pointed in the direction of white nationalist men.If you want to stop the evil, become a nationalist. When you unite with other white men, they will call you a fascist because that is what fascism represents; the individuals uniting together, thats wht the symbol is a bundle of sticks bound together, with an axe head symbolising that we have an edge and that we are going to strike together in the same direction.
>>542089029220-192What were the numbers on the israel military integration?
>>542089029I'm willing to compromise with nazbol/strasserism or are you going to call me a rossobruno to vilify me as any other attempts of national sovereignty?
>>542090114>Goyish niggerbabbleJust stfu already.
>>542090114>hey fear Fascism, which they perceive as any organisation of white men for their own interestsList of countries that have had fascist governments:>Italy>Spain>Greece>Portugal>Brazil>Indonesiaextremely white
>>542089029>Amerimutts still confuse communism with socialism
>>5420905644 of those are white; but I am primarily talking about Britain and America where there have been fascist movements which required the full might of the state to stop (Britain re-wrote and broke numerous laws to stop the BUF prior to WW2), and where today we see draconian crack-downs on any organisation of white men doing anything. Just look at yesterday's completely peaceful protest in Dover; politicians including Farage the controlled opposition denouncing it, all media channels saying its terrible and even the so called right wing GBnews saying 'this is not the way', police caught offguard but quickly organised and called in the riot squads only to find the peaceful protest had already gone home. That is how much they fear white men organising AKA Fascism.
>>542089029>the elites fear us
>>542089029Communism is the tool that the Jews use to destabilize nations. You are a tool. Read Solzhenitsyn.
>>542089029>Please take economic advice from an unemployed kike
>>542090261Kek rizzo has a long time ago abandoned communism he wants to ally with fascist NATO general vannacci, u absolute retardFrancesco toscano rekt him and his pro fascist ideology
>>542090114Communism is bad for everyone but at least under communism you fucks suffer too instead of just us
>>542090565Socialism is the first step to communism
>>542091247First no, he's still working to find a syntesis about an antiestablishment movement that would overlap various sovereignty-first movements, second it's just an example. Would you be ok with having PC or Socialismo Patriottico leading the country or are going to find some other excuse to refuse any form of compromise you are given?
>>542089029What is the most successful country right now that is fully communist? Not a hybrid, strictly communist.
>>542091435Just like liberalism is first step to fascism and conservatism is first step to feudalism.They all are still different ideologies that have their extreme counterparts that differ in key areas.
>>542091442>he's still working to find a syntesis about an antiestablishment movement that would overlap various sovereignty-first movementsRizzo left the PC and DSP to create his new reactionary party 'Italia domani' with rightist priorities like: "in difesa della famiglia e in netto rifiuto dell'ideologia woke", "la difesa delle "radici laiche e cristiane" dell'Italia, "il blocco dei flussi migratori sulla base della reale capacità demografica e sociale del Paese", he seeks alliances... but with whom? With fascists like Alemanno and Vannacci. He has completely lost his mind, embracing reactionary conspiracy theories and he's actively fueling the climate of hatred against refugees, defending Roggero, and condemning Fakir. He no longer has anything to do with communism.>anti-establishmentRizzo is a habitual guest on Mediaset... If he were actually anti-establishment, he would have been censored just like Francesco Toscano, instead of being regularly invited on telemeloni.>Would you be ok with having PC or Socialismo Patriottico leading the country or are going to find some other excuse to refuse any form of compromise you are given?Yes, because they are actually opposed to fascism and don't prioritize gaining votes from reactionary rightwing conspiracy theorists like Marco Rizzo does.
>>542089029It's a known fact. Kikes hate socialism, because kikes feed on patent rule, bank interest and other parasitic things.Chad socialists make them shiver in fear.
>>542093156Good, so we agree on something. Now, how do we shift the windows overton towards that direction? Importing endless niggers and civil rights warfare don't accomplish nothing if not advancing the neoliberist global scam.
SocialismNational
>>542093511Nazis weren't socialists.
>>542089029They also condem national socialism...
WHITE COMMUNIST ETHNOSTATES
>>542089029okay now introduce a resolution condemning and denouncing National Socialism and see if more than 220 vote for it. Let's see which one the elites actually fear
>>542093559That's true, but most of the current socialist parties turn into retarded lib-left instead of nat-soc>True national socialism haven't been tried!But should have.
>>542089029You're brown
>>542089029they fear spiders toowe should all become arachnids
>>542089029>in all it's forms so no more subsidies for muskrat?
>>542089029They fear National Socialism so much, they had mobilize the whole world to destroy it, while Communists exist to this day... curious
>>542090114You fuckers project your own violent fantasies on socialism
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>>542094235Fascism was always a middle class reactionary movement against societal collapse that had been ushered in by anarchists and communists who were forever protected by liberals in suits pretending to be decent humans. Fascism took over in Spain as a reaction to leftist filth raping nuns and murdering priests. In Germany it was a reaction to leftist filth murdering young boys in the streets. In Italy it was a reaction against all the violence, theft and vandalism perpetrated by the working class.You and your ilk are low IQ subhumans with no impulse control. You are the dregs of society. Fascism is what happens when the decent people finally get pushed too far and decide to wipe you out. It takes a long time because we are patient, we have families and we are trying to make society work by playing by the rules. Eventually it becomes clear that there can be no co-operation with you filth. Then we quickly wipe you out because unlike you impulsive criminal retards; we can actually plan, anticipate and when we are finally forced to do it; we have infinitely more destructive potential than you do. When our patience finally runs out you will disppear.Day by day more and more white men reach the end of their patience. Tick tock subhuman. You are on borrowed time. We will take back our homes. The foreigners will be sent back, either of their own volition or in caskets. The traitors, jews and the criminals will hang for their crimes. Tick. Tock.
>>542094725Fantasies of violence, violence from the left whom I bet my ass have never done shit to you in 40 years and fantasies of fascist violence is all you wantIs all your brain will accept from the left, they can save your ass daily with simple reforms but all you wanna hear from them is violence that is rare and very arguably I myself have seen how the right burn buses and blame the left or how they loot during riots and blame the left, because for you people the left is any mass of people doing violenceYou can't see organized lefty people mobilizing peacefully your brain blocks them out
>>542090114holy shit post of the year!sloter ze juzin!
>>542091571china is a 1 race kingdom aka fascism
>>542089107This board would literally be nothing without twitter and Reddit screenshots
>>542089029That just sounds like a bad idea. You are going to get gitmo'd over neo-Trotskyism kek
>>542093238well its just saying heybankers mba and lawyers are dorksdeport themmake houses n good foodput women in kitchen but treat em nicework as men together and with thoughtend all scarcitylife goodjews hate this they have 1,000 reasons to make things wakky when they are simplealso annoying women in nature are immediatly killed so do natural thing if women annoying
>>542095174China is not a strictly only communist country. They utilize many ideologies including capitalism.Did you mean to reply to the post asking for what you didn't deliver?
>>542089029>Elites fear us.so do children
>>542089029https://youtube.com/shorts/Cf38Dh2thZ4
>>542089029You should be a communist precisely because it doesnt work. Its like bringing a grenade to the negotiation table. Sometimes you have to teach them a lesson.
>>542090905>lets delegitimize communism by associating it with degenerates mutts like you never learn
>>542095302china is a 1 race kingdomeven better than fascismI am way smarter than you and can answer any more questions.t. white gigachad
>>542089029Low tax rates for corporations and rich are just socialism for rich. High tax rates for them is socialism for the poor.To prove this point just get the data and create a graph viewing this data. 1950s tax brackets by wages. Inflation rate since 1950s. Calculate the tax brackets from back then to today with inflated numbers. The 1950s were considered the golden age of america. And anyone making over 110k today is paying an extremely lowered tax rate compared to back then. Not to even mention corporate tax rates. Automation unironically is destroying taxes. Every employee removed is tens of thousands less in taxes for a low wage worker. Higher wages are hundreds of thousands. And every worker automated is that much less in taxes being paid. Which creates a larger deficit. Which creates inflation.Yet every time a recession happens who gets the bailouts? The rich. The corporations. A bailout funded by tax dollars is by definition socialism. Any faggot still reading this keep being a good capitalist. I am sure it will get better after the next election if we vote harder for red team or blue team!
>>542093569>>542093677>They also condem national socialismThey don't
>>542089029>the elites>US representatives lol. lmao
>>542094949I'm going to assume good intentions. Look up 'antifa'. Add in 'assault, murder, stabbing, violence' if your feeds are all pro-lefty crap.There are naive liberal women who think anarchists and communists are just like them but more zealous. That's not the reality. Most of them are drug-addled petty criminals with mental problems that are always causing stealing, always vandalising, and always the ones start the violence before running for cover behind the state which always protects. They are always trying to provoke normal people and the media only portrays the tail end, when those leftist druggies that started the problems are fleeing from the fight that they started. Then the news tells the world about 'far right violence' and 'violence at ring wing protest' when its always the psychotic leftist petty criminals that start it.If you want I can give examples and footage, but honestly its almost always how it plays out so you should have no problems finding evidence.Hope you come over to the Right side my naive sister. God keep you.
>>542094330Karl Marx was german
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>>542091571It was the USA but you niggas choked and decided to go retard mode to impress the bigger and better communists, china.
>>542097869>What is the most successful country right now that is fully communist? Not a hybrid, strictly communist.The US is not a strictly communist country. What the fuck, anon. Are you drunk? Can you understand the post you replied to?
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>>542089029>the U.S. House passes a resolution formally condemning & denouncing their job.That'd be based if they actually meant it. Or even had a clue what socialism was. In reality the sleazebag who introduced the resolution is a socialist himself. If he truly opposed socialism he'd vote no on every single appropriations bill.
>>542091571There are none. Every attempt to create a purely communist system through the abolition of private property and money immediately leads to the complete inability to engage in rational economic calculation. So every communist country quickly accepts that they need *some* markets to just survive. Even the DPRK has extremely limited free markets in addition to its thriving black market, and its nationalized industries aren't so much truly socialized as they are the private property of the Kim dynasty. Kim is effectively a monarch, he engages in feudal traditions like perambulation although it's called "on the spot guidance" in the DPRK.
Interesting how OP quietly disappeared without adding anything substantial to the conversation he started.Probabilmente una testa di cazzo di qualche canale Telegram o server Discord dove si larpa come comunistelli radical chic pro ricchioni, transessuali e negri. Either that or a VPN israeli/poo slidenigger.
>>542099051Thank you for the honest answer. This was the point I was trying to bring up to OP in an organic manner with the help of anons like yourself.
>>542099415Dunno why you'd try to convince OP of anything, OP is, by definition, a faggot after all. 1pbtid threads are about having fun engaging with the other people who decided to show up rather than the OP. I just reply to the OP when I first enter to try to spark discussion.
The U.S. has been a giant welfare state since the 1960’s. I don’t get why people get so bent out of shape from the use of the word socialism as some kind of gotcha. Even the rich get bailed out every few years which is socialism. Then there’s the whole social security system that is welfare socialism. About 40% of all the patients seen in hospitals are of patients with subsided healthcare due to poverty or disability. We even give Israel 30 billion a year and get nothing in return. Why then is socialism seen as this bad word? All your polices are socialist you dumb fuck. Trump alone is responsible for raising the national debt by 25%.
>>542099603Very true, I wanted to address the shill because our advisories really like to use social media to push failed ideologies.China, Russia, Iran are getting desperate and it's fun to continually prove them wrong.
>>542089029Who do you think controls the population in communist countries? The people? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Do you fear ants when you spray pesticide your walkway?
>>542099863>China, Russia, Iran are getting desperateI honestly wonder what world Miggers are living in
>>542098010>I'm too stupid to follow so therefore you are on drugs. You are illiterate and have no business speaking of economics. Income tax + central banking = communism as defined by those who coined the term. >Although then UK Chancellor Philip Hammond argued that Labour’s (tentative) support for a land-value tax (LVT) in 2017 would be “attacking land on Marxist principles,” both Marx and Engels were strongly opposed to LVT, as propounded by Henry George in Progress and Poverty, given that “what Henry George demands, leaves the present mode of social production untouched.” But Marx’s observation on The New English Budget in 1857, “now, if taxes are not to be raised by customs and excise duties, they must be directly derived from property and income,”A tax invariably removes value from a market, the seller must pass on the price to the buyer, and the buyer experiences lower demand. You can tax anything, goods, (sales tax or tariff) property (land tax, estate tax) even labor (income tax, flat tax) Communism is a story told to peasants to convince them to pay income tax. Income tax however, reduces the demand for labor. Income tax means people buying labor don't want it, and demands that sellers of labor charge a premium. It is deleterious to a nation if a nation is made of people. On the other hand, if you are a cartel or corporation, it's a good way to avoid having to pay tariffs property tax. Because for every peon paying income tax in their respective economic zones, is another free security drone. The deadweight loss is minimized in your market, and offloaded to all supporting markets. Maybe if you didn't smoke weed, drink, and watch porn in school you would understand.
>>542096478That map is 100% fake there is no way the kikes would let Germany and the US vote against this
>>542090564I remember my dad talking about visiting family over there under the socialist Pappandreou regimes. He said he thought Greece was better under the military junta.
>>542089029if i had niggers at my doorstep begging me to let them in to destroy my house, i'd tell them gtfo too
>>542089029I started listening to leftist podcasts recently. I was a die hard right winger white nationalist type since Charlottesville. At the end of the day we’re all working class and leftist tend to have much better arguments + they are anti religion anti Christian dogma. Lately I lean more socialist than right. Right wingers just kiss the riches ass. We don’t need communist we need socialism or real capitalism without too much regulation
>>542093559and Soviets and Commies aren't really socialists either
>>542089029Nationalist Socialism is the thing they fear most, it is the only thing corporations must kneel to
>>542093511I'm somewhat of a socialist myself.
>>542096478>UN General Assembly Vote
>>542091571There aren't any
>>542090114they're so afraid of fascism they actively foster multiple fascist movements around the worldeveryone knows when you're afraid of something you want as much of that thing as possible
>>542100377>they actively foster multiple fascist movements around the worldCan you name 5 of them?
>>542099988>miggersYou're one of those...>>542100100>>What is the most successful country right now that is fully communist? Not a hybrid, strictly communist.This is a straightforward question without any room for adding extra shit that I know that you want to add. The fact that you struggle with a simple question tells me you have ulterior motives.I can tell you're trying really hard but it was a simple question.
>>542090114Based and fascismpilled. Heil victory.
>>542095219>Whites would literally be nothing without jews
>>542089029>People elected into politics are elites
Communism is a system of poors rules by elites. Atleast with capitalism there's a somewhat middle class.
>>542089029In the West cops will arrest you if you wear a tee-shirt with a Swatziska but comunists have political partis ect... You aren't the rebel you think you are.
>>542100480Am willing to gamble on them separating to surviveBecause as it is they are head first towards white genocide
no they do not, because communism is the handmaiden of capitalismboth materialist bastardscapitalist allied with stalin
>>542089029Based. There is nothing more the elite hate more than Communism.
"Socialism's" whole process is setting the poor on the slightly less poor so that that rich shitheads who are not in power can claim power from the rich that are in power and rule over a more broken system.
>>542089029>the irony of a bunch of literal communists telling you not to be a communist because it's badIt must be about time for another wall street bailout
>>542100592then why did they ally with stalin? how many people have been fired for wearing a che guevara shirt or are yearly arrested for doing the communist fist salute globally?
>>542089029>reverse psychologyOf course (((they))) want us to be communist
>>542100621bourgoise who want communism instead of capitalism are not satisfied with the power of the purse and want to wield a gun instead
>>542099863>Very true, I wanted to address the shill because our advisories really like to use social media to push failed ideologies.Yeah, like democracy.>China, Russia, Iran are getting desperate and it's fun to continually prove them wrong.That's retarded and you're retarded for writing it.>>542100100>Income tax + central banking = communism as defined by those who coined the term.They're socialist policies, communism was always a poorly defined system where both the state and private property are abolished and everyone just works because they love working or something. Socialism isn't the same thing as communism. Communism is basically the magical eschaton which socialists believe eventually awaits if they can just get the government big enough. Countries which have actually tried to achieve it inevitably end up backing off and allowing some markets to exist.
>>542096893Jews aren't German
How can the US condemn socialism when the entire US banking apparatus exists today thanks to taxpayer money?
>>542100659You mean by a firing squad?A lot, just research the history of mineral mining during the XXth centuryDie in a carbon mine!NoBang bang bang
>>542089029They already did this for White "supremacism" 10 years ago. Congratulations on finally getting recognized.
>>542100100You can also tax services (rent) Which is what Adam Smith argued a responsible nation should do. However, since services are generally considered the ultimate good in society, this is never considered. >a rent tax? Why would I want my rent to go up?The masses say.>wouldn't the shock of a smaller service market cause chaos?A policy maker complains. If taxation is not theft, a service tax is the only moral tax.People need property, goods, and labor to survive. Services are completely frivolous luxuries. >rentYou are paying the greater portion of your income for some joker to take care of a place you live, or work, or farm food. Imagine if someone doing your laundry and bathing you got 30% or more of your income. They should have a smaller market and lazy Rentiers should pay a premium (tax) on their unproductive habit. It might take a decade for these jokers to finally sell but they would inevitably. >other servicesThere are all manner of useless services Consulting, Prostitution, Convenience, Oddsmaking, Software/telecoms plans,Insurance, Banking, Your society is bloated with useless rentier services. I understand that taxing them would cause a genuine collapse. But consider how primitive and crude your solutions are to the elegance of the simple service tax. You tax foreign grain and poison your own citizens to avoid the tax,You tax incomes and import illegal labor,You tax capital gains and create brain drain, You tax a physical luxury and people turn to video games, thousands of years of craft and tradition are lain to waste because a cute set of pixels on a 4 dollar screen. All for a fear of taxing a service and making a lazy scammer cry. Forgive me for calling your backwards illiterate nation "communist."
>>542100721You are stuck in a social world anon, i'm sorry but I'm not going to debate semantics.
>>542100187Today right often means greedy zionist but that's not historical and is really a perversion. Regardless, the traditional /pol/ position is Nationalism, commonly referred to as alt-right, or the third position; because we reject the money-first perspective.The communist perspective can be boiled down to: who ever needs, gets.That is me being VERY charitable, but for arguments sake let's allow it. Imagine a scenario where your child or your partner is sick; but they aren't AS sick as this guy three towns over who you have never met. Communism is taking your resources and giving it to him because 'he needs it more'. Unsurprisingly this never works; screw that stranger, I'm not putting my child at risk when I could keep them safe just because some bureaucrat tells me they have it worse.Nationalism works in harmony with human nature. It centres the family unit and makes everything about family. You then work your way outwards; so your first duty as a man is your children and wife, and then its your parents and cousins, your neighbours, your town, your county, your clan, your tribe, your nation. The division of duty just works. You have a lot of freedom, and it is your duty to take care of your family; but that duty to family overrides the duty to wealth generation, meaning that once you are secure, you would not be allowed to make excessive wealth if it hurt the wider community. Your first priority is your blood kin, but once they are provided for; you are expected to care for your neighbour, your town, your nation. This means lots of quite 'green policies'; protecting the forests for the futute generations is more important than an already wealthy family squeezing out every last penny by cutting down every tree.Nationalism puts people first like socialism claims to, but it does it without turning father against son, and without creating rebels who resent the system. It works because it plays to our human nature and innate sense of familial duty.
>>542089029Communists are mostly spoiled richfags themselves. Always remember that communists are human and it’s ok to kill them.
>>542093559Everyone knows "national socialism" is not the same as socialism. It literally means " socialism, but only for nationals."Most political parties at the time had "socialist" or "workers" in their name somewhere because it was a very popular position before capitalists destroyed the bargaining power of unions with divide and conquer planning
>>542089029That's funny because communism is and has always been promoted by the international bankers. The same ones that are behind the Fabian Society.
I genuinely can’t even fathom how retarded you have to be in 2026 to truly believe corporate elites fear socialism in any way.
>>542100915>Adam SmithAdam Smith was an early thinker still caught up in a great deal of mercantilist thinking left over from the middle ages>If taxation is not theftIt is theft, so the rest of that point is moot>Services are completely frivolous luxuries.Healthcare is a service, as is policing>>542101092>You are stuck in a social world anon, i'm sorry but I'm not going to debate semantics.Well if you're not willing to understand that there are different forms socialism can take then you're going to have a hard time arguing against it with its adherents. America is a socialist country, but not a communist one. Democratic style socialists will ignore arguments against Soviet style socialism because they imagine their version is the right one and it will totally work this time.>>542101364>Regardless, the traditional /pol/ position is Nationalism, commonly referred to as alt-right, or the third position; because we reject the money-first perspective.The traditional /pol/ position is libertarian, stop pretending to speak for us newfag. Also you can just say national socialism, we all know what you mean when you say third position.
>>542101573>The traditional /pol/ position is libertarianYou wish kike lol
>>542089188The billionaires need their gibs so shut up and eat your PB&J sandwich
>>542093559>nazis weren't socialists>shows a quote where Hitler explicitly says the oppositeMarx didn't invent socialism.
>>542089029>Communist. Elites814 Jewish Billionaires in Chinaown a billions slavesgo be a slave
>>542089029Elites don't fear the irish Republic. They literally live there, keep their money there and bang their war drums under their irish nationality.
>>542090114Based, I can see them fear.
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>>542089029communists are losers. just work hard and get a job that exploits people. i work in the insurance industry, wfh, and make $160k a year.
>>542089029your party is 100% managed by elites you fucking idiot
>>542101573>if you don't engage with my definitions of words i can't argue with you and hereby dismiss your opinions! Indeed thy mighty lordship. >Adam smith was primitiveA warning call to his contemporaries that they needed a new system. >healthcare tax would be ugly GOTCHA!You completely missed the point :)
>>542095471Socialism did an excellent job delegitamizing itself with all the failed nations under its guidance.
>>542090114>They fear FascismNo the fuck they don't. Fascism is the last ditch effort by the wealthy to destroy a democracy that us turning socialist. Fascism is big business in government with no friction. Fucking retard.
>>542090114High IQ post. The economy type doesn't matter when it's still controlled by Jews and niggers share the streets with us. Arguing over capitalism vs socialism/communism is pointless
>>542101364What’s your point? No system is perfect. I’m not advocating for communism. Jews practice socialism all the time and they have their own neighborhoods in New York with their own police etc, it seems to work. But I’m advocating for actual free markets with low regulation and small govement mixed in with socialism where needed. We need a new system not communism or capitalism but something that takes the best aspects from both systems and combines or totally forms a new system. All I know is this form of capitalism we currently have is just fascism or plain oligarchy. It doesn’t work and it’s broken entirely
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>>542089029Elites fucking love Communism. It consolidates their power.
>>542102100Communism is the working class led by jews. Jews are constantly agitating for it.Fascism is the middle class finally taking the role of leadership and stopping all the criminality. Its a late term thing because the middle class try their hardest to just be left alone, they play by the rules even when the game is rigged against them. Its only when things got intolerable that they finally revolt.There are tattooed skin edgelords that LARP as Fascists because media vilification made them seem edgy and in the eyes of some; cool. These aren't fascists. They're closer to the typical low IQ petty criminal that identifies with anarchists. Real Fascists were the well-to-do hard-working types that tried to do everything right and eventually realised they didn't have to put up with the hellscape the jews has created.
Communism == judaism
>>542102340So the state controlls the means of production?This is just socialism.
>>542102373>Fascism is the middle class finally taking the role of leadership and stopping all the criminality.This is just straight up a lie. I don't know where you heard it but it isn't true. And flawed in a weird way.
>>542090114Based and true
>>542102624Fascism has deep roots based in unity and militarism, but polical fascism began in Milan, and was a middle class reaction against jew-led communist/anarchist working class criminality. It started with football, they were and still are called ULTRAS, it began with the working class criminals pissing off the fans of the team from the middle class who eventually beat them down and cleaned up Milan.
>>542102624That's how it happened in Italy and Germany
>>542102608The owners of the means of production become apart of the state. There is a difference between AI being nationalized and Sam Altman becoming minister if AI while keeping control of his company.U shouldn't have had to explain this if you were interested in honest conversation. But you yourself are a fascist ghoul who doesn't care about empiricism or truth.
>>542101958>if you don't engage with my definitions of words i can't argue with you and hereby dismiss your opinions!I never said I wouldn't argue with you, I said that you wouldn't win arguments with socialists.>Adam smith was primitiveNot what I said at all.>A warning call to his contemporaries that they needed a new system.Swing and a miss at your own straw man>healthcare tax would be ugly GOTCHA!Taxation is all theft. There are only two kinds of transactions, consensual transfers of title, and theft.>You completely missed the point :)Actually you missed my point. My point was that services are not frivolous luxuries. If you weren't retarded you'd have realized that, since I didn't even paraphrase your quote, much less replace it with a complete strawman like you do to me.>>542102340>>542102100>fascism isn't socialism, it's a totally different kind of socialismMaybe learn what the word socialism means. Fascism and National Socialism are both kinds of socialism, they're just not Marxist style socialism. Fascists, corporatists, and natsocs all want state control over the means of production, they just structure it differently and allow nominal private ownership in many cases.
>>542089029Elites just become party members. There's still an elite hierarchy in Communism.
>>542089029lmao the (((elites))) ARE communistsit's the model they absolutely love and are desperate to implement in the west it centralizes and entrenches their power in ways that make them completely untouchable leftists are so fucking naive, it's absolutely remarkable >"just give them even more power, it'll totally work out"
>>542102855>Maybe learn what the word socialism means.You should do this. I'm not arguing with retards.
>>542089029>almost 50-50 vote>elites fear CommunismWhy are they now equating socialism to Communism?
>>542089029>Elites fear us>Condemnation barely passed 220-192Seems like almost half the elites support you niggers still
>>542089029>This is why you should be a Natzi. Elites fear us.>This is why you should be a Nigger. Elites fear us.>This is why you should be a Rapist. Elites fear us.>This is why you should be a Pedophile. Elites fear us.>This is why you should be a Cannibal. Elites fear us.>This is why you should be a Terrorist. Elites fear us.No.
>>542089029Until communists become the elites, then the poor fear them.
>>542102798A person who hands over their freedom for security deserves neither. You are a cuck.
>>542103112Elites dont fear rapists, niggers, or cannibals you retard lmao
>>542103259We have neither presently, so what do we have to lose?
>>542102944>You should do this.I have. The term Socialism predates Marx's first publication by about a decade. Marx's peculiar definition as being the stage prior to true communism is not shared by the majority of socialists throughout history. In fact most socialist systems have been much closer to the corporatist style employed in nazi Germany, fascist Italy, and the modern United States.>I'm not arguing with retards.You are instead arguing as a retard.
>>542097224Parenzo tier bait
>>542103259Its a man taking back their streets through activism you retard. Its literally seizing freedom from those who would deny it to us; both a two-tier tyrannical state and the violent foreigners and traitors given free reign in our lands to do those things which the state apprehends us for.
>>542103303>We have neither presently, so what do we have to lose?Nothing but our chains I guess. I know it's a commie slogan but damn it's fitting for the context.
>>542089029If you support something just because someone else is against it, you have the mental development level of a child
>>542103278They should fear cannibals. The netherlands killed and ate their prime minister just to send a message.
>>542103383I'm sorry for calling you a retard I went back and read through the entirety of your original post and saw>Taxation is all theft.You aren't a retard you're just a libertarian. I didn't mean to make fun of a genuine mental disability.
>>542103468Sweet well Heil Hitler to you \o
>>542089029The minute the DSA drops the anti white anti gun shit you have a NazBol party. Their insistence on clinging to that horseshit and trannies is why they can only consume the Democrats.
>>542103520The oligarchs have probably consumed more human flesh and raped more people than all the cannibals ans rapists currently in prison combined. They look at normie cannibals and think "AMATEUR"
>>542089029>down with socialism, up with commu...corporatism.jews killed tens of millions of White people to confiscate their wealth. Condemn that. And they will surpass that record.
>>542095471Yeah, thats exactly what you did. Occupy Wallstreet got derailed by intersectionalist tranny faggotry by the corpos and you continue to suck the corpo cock instead of dealing with labor/banker issues.
>>542103303I can say nigger, tell me that's not freedom.
>>542089029Communism and capitalism aren't complete worldviews that replace all other forms of economic reasoning, both should fear us for their days are numbered.
>>542103653So you've inoculated yourself against all argument. You must be right because everyone who disagrees with you is stupid, and everyone who disagrees with you is stupid because they disagree with how right you are. Since you have decided you're perfect, mind sharing your wisdom with us? What is the perfect system?>>542103684Fuck that whiny retard. Heil Hans-Hermann Hoppe.
>>542103278Tell me about the private security and gated communities Anon. How many Niggers did they let stay in Martha's Vineyard? Go on.
>>542103894So long as the NSA algorithm that monitors your every move deems youre not a threat, sure. Like a kid in a playpen. The moment you step even slightly out of line the full weight of the state will crush you. Its called anarcho-tyranny, thats why niggers can burn entire cities and get away with it but mothers can go to prison for saying nigger
>>542103943>Communism and capitalism aren't complete worldviews that replace all other forms of economic reasoningCommunism precludes all economic reasoning. Capitalism is just accepting economic reality. Markets work and state interference in the market never makes it work better.
>>542104009They had no problem installing one as president or flooding Europe with them. They dont give a shit about niggers. They give a shit about nationalising the bond market and private schools- which is what Hitler did.
>>542103719The DSA is just there to larp as anything lefty and badThey make surveys find out what the majority of people dislikes the most and do pretend to do exactly that, their projects don't survive any nitpick and exist for the headline aloneThey will he about migrants, alt sex and taking away people's rightsThey won't march for privacy or demand a reduction of inflation they bank on racism they like it and like talking about it and pretending to help is the most racist thing they findIs university right kids who fucked their way up by trampling over everything the left stands on like unpaid voluntary work
>>542089029>more reddit than reddit the post>>>/trash
>>542104089>filling cans of meat with sawdust is just our economic reality goyim>the state stopping us from filling your food with sawdust cut into our bottom line>that hurts the market>you DO want the market to succeed, dont you goyim?
>>542089029>If you destroy your enemies, that means you were afraid of them and they win!Sure, Trudeau. Meanwhile, the leaders of your faggot failed movement have exposed what communism actually is to millions of young retards.
>>542089029Communists are a liability, this is less about fear and more about prudent planning, commies are obsessed with wealth gaps instead of ending the fiat that keeps them poor. Socialists being tard-wrangled is great because commies always install socialists, even commies know that installing a commie is bad for your people.
>>542090114Correct.Leftists are useful idiots of globalists. Look at the replies, they have no actual answer:Deep down, they know. But admitting it would means their whole life was a pathetic LARP.Which it is.
>>542104108>"putting them in YOUR yard is the same as desperately keeping them out of THEIRS"lol lmao even
>>542090114>bundle of sticks bound togetherYeah that has a name.It's called a faggothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp8_FzJO458
>>542104089Economy isn't just trade and finances, the entire body of economic analysis can be analysed outside of the communism/capitalism frameworks.Because economy in its full sense sits within a much larger, ecology of life, framework, things like ecology, geography, demography, culture, social structure, education, politics, health, insitutions, ethics and many, many other sectors that enable a society to exist and flourish are all parts of the economic life of a society, which are often ignored by the prevalent economic schools. This makes capitalism and communism subsystems of a much larger question, rather than complete descriptions of human economic life.
>>542104044That's why the NSA or whoever else were able to stop Luigi, Loughner, Paddock, and others?
>>542104773If they didnt love niggers they wouldn't have turned them into a sacred cow. In any case, your argument against niggers works fine enough in our favor. Dont want niggers? Become a Nazi.
>>542104178>filling cans of meat with sawdust is just our economic reality goyimSo if there is a company out there selling cans of meat that are full of sawdust, would you buy them over their competitor who did not do that? The only reason something like that would be a problem is if there is a monopoly or cartel, but in the absence of the state propping those up, they inevitably fail.>the state stopping us from filling your food with sawdust cut into our bottom lineActually what the state stopping you from filling your food from sawdust does is increase the regulatory compliance burden to drive smaller competitors out of the market. This increases the bottom line for the big manufacturers who can absorb the cost, while screwing the consumer who must now pay more for canned meat. >that hurts the marketWhat we all learned from the government employed parental surrogates as children isn't actually true. There was never actually a major epidemic of tainted foods that led to the creation of the FDA, it was lobbying from larger meat packing firms to get their smaller competitors regulated out of business. There were some sensational books and articles written to create the impression in the minds of the public that slaughterhouse conditions were unsanitary, but in reality they were simply presenting normal slaughterhouse conditions, which are bloody, as unsanitary.>you DO want the market to succeed, dont you goyim?Did you know that modern foods advertised as "high fiber" just include indigestible wood pulp?
>>542103838They also destroyed the yellow jackets mouvement here too.It was about purchasing power and taxes, they poisoned it.
>>542104864Paddock was a patsy and Luigi did in fact get busted because of the surveillance state, so idk what youre on about. Do you deny that we live in a surveillance state which monitors our communications and movements 24/7?
>>542104941If we did, the number of people arrested would have skyrocketed over the last decade.
>>542100436zelensksyyyyyyyyybolsonaroisrael the entire countryfujimoribukelethere exists a world outside of western europe, japan, and the us you migger
>>542089029I also denounce socialism in all forms.
>>542089029we have the winner of "most retarded post of the year"
>>542104889There were companies that filled their meat with sawdust to cut prices. Capitalism is a race to the bottom. It has a limited life span before it starts cannibalizing itself for that 3% growth target. Its the ideology of jews. Besides, were not even capitalist right now. None of our corporations could survive without massive subsidies. So idk what youre defending, it seems like it doesnt exist
>>542102100checked and trvked
>>542105017We have the highest prison rate in the world anon
>>542089029Communism is Impossible without,Authoritarianism. And guess what? It ain't gonna be fucking You! Always gonna be a psychopath.
Here's your Aryan warrior bro
>>542089029communism literally created by jews>>542095219 reddit used to be b& textjanitors used to delete twitter threads on sight.then moot sold the site and now mods sticky reddit screencap threads.
>>542089029Fun fact:The Communist Party of America was started entirely by jews.
>>542105129miggers want communism and they have already made the first step authoritarian step with king dementia donald though? and then they took additonal steps with mass surveillance, great firewall of america, constitution destruction, etc. at this point it's basically inevitable as is total democratic america death is
>>542104889Blablabla.Now the reality, not your 5yo lolbert mental masturbation :Our food market is regulated, we eat decent food US food market is mostly unregulated (most laws were bought by big business to increase their profits, not for safety) and your food is considered as chemical warfare in the rest of the world.That's what happens when you let the market decide. After a while, it's so powerful laws become part of the market. If only there were some...regulations, AKA state intervention, such as anti trust/anti monopoly laws...
>>542105065kraft parmesean cheese has been more sawdust that cheese for decades
>>542105335holy shit pierre, was your mother drunk every day she carried you?
>>542104889>The only reason something like that would be a problem is if there is a monopoly or cartelMonopolies are about as capitalistic as you can get. That's one of many social guardrails we had to put up to to prevent capitalism from running amok
>>542105417>No arguments.Mmm
>>542089029>This is why you should be a Communist. Elites fear us.Elites fear the plague, doesn't mean I want to become vermin spreading the black death. Though, if I did do that, at least I wouldn't be spreading communism.
>>542103838>instead of dealing with labor/banker issues.Why would communists care about labor issues? These are people who would never work not even to save themselves from starving. They're going to teach poetry after the revolution.
the elite are communists anon you just can't see it
>>542090114>they fear fascism So why didn’t they pass a law condemning fascism? When was the last time fascists overthrew their government?
>>542105516>didnt answer the questionmmhmm
>>542089029>commies falling for the "Hey goy, er comrade, hows about fighting all my bosses" routine againLol
>>542105352Is that supposed to make me feel better? All I'm hearing is "Hitler was right"
>>542092888By that logic, communism then doesn’t exist. All Marx did was describe the end state for an economy. You can’t force a society into the end state.
>>542105887no, and yes he was
>>542105916hand rubbing intensifies
>>542089029>This is why you should be a Communist. Elites fear us.(((Elites))) caused you idiots to adopt a suicidal framework for civilization.Communist, socialism (international, national, or other), capitalism, and all other -isms are derivatives of the core -ism, JUDAISM.All -isms are used to inflice central banking on a target population.That is why they call people like you "useful idiots".Grow up before you die thinking like a baby, OP.
>>542103407nah its more like red shambhala pilled
>>542104831>Economy isn't just trade and financesNo shit Sherlock>the entire body of economic analysis can be analysed outside of the communism/capitalism frameworks.Capitalism isn't even a framework, it's just a word for when people interact consensually without the state intervening. It's like how atheism isn't a religion. Saying the economy can be analyzed outside of the framework of capitalism is like saying that biology can be analyzed outside the framework of life.>economy in its full sense sits within a much larger, ecology of life, framework, things like ecology, geography, demography, culture, social structure, education, politics, health, insitutions, ethicsNo, economy is the endeavor to put scarce resources to their most efficient use. Those other things are different fields of study.>>542105065>There were companies that filled their meat with sawdust to cut prices.I addressed this quite thoroughly. If you refuse to address any of my points my only conclusion can be that you probably didn't read my post.>Capitalism is a race to the bottom.This is idiotic. If capitalism were a pure race to the bottom then why is it that almost nobody makes the minimum wage? You must realize that there are principles other than state intervention which lead to higher wages and better quality products.>Its the ideology of jews.While some of the major figures in modern capitalist thought like Rothbard were (ethnically) Jewish, the supermajority of modern Jews identify as socialists of some stripe and the self proclaimed Jewish state quite closely adheres to the National Socialist program.>Besides, were not even capitalist right now.Indeed, I hope you don't go around blaming capitalism for all the problems in the economy.>idk what youre defending, it seems like it doesnt existI'm defending the idea. I'm saying it's something we should strive for.
communism the ideal end state for the "elites." why wouldn't they want it?
>>542089029The worst part of the Soviet Union falling was getting slav fags complaining how shit communism was when it was run by them and not actual whites.
>>542089029>220-192Hmm looks like nearly half of elites actually are fine with socialism ?
>>542102845>The owners of the means of production become apart of the state.Yeah that's what happens when something is nationalized under socialist nations fuckwit.
>>542090114Fascists and gangsters are the favorite pets of the capitalists because you're retarded and easy to control.
>>542089029Ok so when are we going to cut out bailouts for corpos and welfare?
>>542106826>east germany>good
>>542106709>why wouldn't they want it?Cause they can be even richer without it
>>542094207Good point It's the only Jew-proof system
>>542089029except zionist labor socialism right?
>>542106478In the course of my life all I have seen capitalism do is cannibalize its past successes while continuously lowering our quality of life. >Capitalism isn't even a framework, it's just a word for when people interact consensually without the state interveningThats like saying 'communism is just people helping each other'. Capitalism is about profit seeking above all else. The given justification is that profit = energy efficiency, but this is a lie. Because what is efficient over the long term is not efficient over the short term, and short term profits are the most important. Hence capitalism cannibalizes itself. >the self proclaimed Jewish state quite closely adheres to the National Socialist programDo they now? Did they nationalize their private schools? Did they cap interest rates? How about their unions? Do they restrict citizenship based on ethnicity? >I'm saying it's something we should strive forWhy exactly should a cabal of international megacorporations controlling every aspect of our lives be something to strive for?
>>542105335>Our food market is regulated, we eat decent foodCorrelation is not causation.>US food market is mostly unregulatedThe US food market is heavily regulated, in fact in terms of scope of regulations it's more regulated than yours.>most laws were bought by big business to increase their profits, not for safetyWhich is my point. Did you even read my post?>your food is considered as chemical warfare in the rest of the world.Entirely due to regulations. Do you think they dump gallons of high fructose corn syrup in everything because consumers just really wanted that? The reality is that the government subsidizes corn production far beyond what demand on the market actually can support, so there is way too much corn that needs to be used up. Every single problem with American food that turns it into toxic sludge is ultimately the result of government interference with the market. In a free market once supply meets demand comfortably enough that people can all afford to eat, there would be fierce competition to provide better quality at lower prices instead of just MOAR FOOD. We don't have a free market though, we have a small number of giant cartels who the government protects from competition through regulation.>After a while, it's so powerful laws become part of the market. If only there were some...regulations, AKA state intervention, such as anti trust/anti monopoly laws...Yeah, government regulations got us into this mess, but I swear the solution isn't to get rid of the regulations, we've just got to keep them in place and trust our benevolent government to fix the problem for us.>>542105512>Monopolies are about as capitalistic as you can get. That's one of many social guardrails we had to put up to to prevent capitalism from running amokThen why were there no successful monopolies in the 19th century prior to the progressive era? Go ahead and name one.
>>542094207>>542107295The capitalists put Nazis in charge of Germany, NATO, and the UN following WWII and funded / armed / trained fascist terrorist groups throughout Europe in Gladio-like programs throughout the Cold War while dedicating decades of effort and untold resources towards destroying communism.
>>542089029Back when Hispanics ruled America, there was no socialism... only free hospitals and universities for natives.America was great without whites, the Olive race fused with the Copper race to create the zenith of humanity... the white race is the tenryuubito, the only good tenryuubito is the dead one.Hispanists know the truth behind the VOID CENTURY (Black Legend).
>>542107357Corbyn is based
>>542107452Jews seem to hate Nazis a whole lot, same thing cannot be said of communism
>>542107429The earliest recorded individual market monopoly in western history is credited to the ancient Greek philosopher Thales of Miletus in the 6th century BC, as recounted by Aristotle in Politics.The Earliest Recorded Market MonopolyWho: Thales of Miletus (c. 624–546 BC), an early Ionian philosopher and mathematician.What: Cornering the local market on olive presses. [1] (/goto?url=CAESdwHrOzAVX82WXdeEV_zKzE3UXvdEI5l3t3WwweEYviub0Mqa4wImZfWW3UNNb75bXrA79IPqYmVSVumVPSVsNpIbVZ-hytUWQm-fBSOaSSk7pvFhw4gMXtfq4Zp2dANPDXmmael5vauWvl3c-A0Euyt9OzrZyUwS)How: Anticipating a massive and unusually bountiful olive harvest through his study of the stars, Thales used his meager savings during the off-season to deposit small earnest-money down payments on all the olive presses in Miletus and Chios, renting them out cheaply.The Result: When the harvest arrived all at once, everyone scrambled to rent presses. Thales exercised his exclusive contracts, re-renting them out at whatever high price he chose, proving to his critics that philosophers could easily make a fortune if they cared to—though his goal was to demonstrate economic leverage rather than build a permanent corporate empire.
>>542089029Why would I support a system that seeks to artificially flatten the hierarchy and tries to convinces the poors and stupids that I'm at the same level as them?
>>542107660Yet Zionism carries on the legacy of Naziism's barbarity in the modern day. Israel would not exist without the Holocaust. You're a useful idiot for the capitalist Epstein empire.
>>542107123East Germans were following orders from KGB, try again.
>>542089029they're getting to the bottom of their baf of distractions.but people still want the Epstein Files and they still want out of Iran.
>>542107728>and tries to convinces the poors and stupids that I'm at the same level as them?To be fair, you're like 100,000x closer to the homeless guy than you are musk and bezos
>>542089029The elites push communism.
>>542107745>the jews lied about everything but they would never ever lie about the holocaust >yes I recognize these people are evil child rapists but the people trying to stop them from raoing children are the REAL bad guys The holocaust didn't happen retard, you fell for their propaganda
>>542089029>This is why you should be a Communist. Elites fear us.Based.
>>542108014see>>542107452
>>542101863How long to work up to that pay?
>>542108014Elites push fascism.
>>542089029i dont need to subscribe to your religion to hate the elite. I can do so perfectly fine on my own
>>542108136And yet Europe is filled with migrants, which debunks your entire retarded argument
>>542108013I don't give a shit if people have more than me. I only care that I have enough.
>>542108122Even if that's true, then explain why every single far-right group since the end of WWII has aligned itself with Zionist capitalist interests. From Ordine Nuovo to the Contras to Azov, they're always willing to fight alongside ZOG.
>>542089029>192 in favor >muh elite fear
>>542108196>he thinks his Epstein class masters give a shit about the ethnic makeup of their slave classyou're a pawn
>>542107858excuses
>>542107396>In the course of my life all I have seen capitalism do is cannibalize its past successes while continuously lowering our quality of life.You've already admitted that you've never even seen capitalism.>Thats like saying 'communism is just people helping each other'.I was bumping up against the character limit and had to trim my response down. Capitalism is when private property rights are respected, socialism is the systematic violation of private property rights.>Do they now?Yes>Did they nationalize their private schools?Not officially, but they regulate them heavily.>Did they cap interest rates?Why would they bother? They just keep getting more free money from their vassals when they need it.>How about their unions?I actually don't know much about Israeli unions.>Do they restrict citizenship based on ethnicity?They have a different conception of nationality, but yes. They don't follow the national socialist program exactly like you imagine it, but they do follow the broad strokes quite closely.>>542107669The reason I specifically said the 19th century is twofold. Firstly because older examples would be hard to verify, and secondly because prior to the 19th century capitalism didn't really exist. I should have been even clearer and specified America and the gilded age, since it was probably the least regulated period of modern economic history. I'm sure there were 19th century monopolies since there were plenty of instances of governments just mandating that some favored crony be given a monopoly.
>>542108209Didn't say you should. You asked a question, I answered.
>>542089029>in all its' formsdid they get rid of medicaid, medicare and social security now?
>>542107452>uses the word capitalist>makes the dumbest post imaginable
>>542089029Socialism is giving your money to the elite to give back to you as pittance and allowance. It's total dictatorship of our money. No taxation without representation.
>>542108014american sanctions against North Korea prove that they view communism as a existential threat to the very existence of the western elite
>>542092888Looking at the actual historical record, liberalism leads to progressivism and socialism leads to authoritarian state capitalism.
>>542089029what a bizarre thing to vote on
>>542108436Literally everything I said is true.
>>542105025None of those are fascist.
>>542108587Azov are fascist and they answer to Zelensky.
>>542108228>why would these CIA sockpuppets align with ZOG? Anon... buddy...>>542108307>Ok so theyre not actually National Socialist but theyre vaguely ethnocentric and thats basically the same thing So in other words, you were talking out your ass. Here's a big one: does Israel have a general requirement to work? It was illegal in Germany to sit on your ass all day reading torah to collect state benefits>Capitalism is when private property rights are respected, socialism is the systematic violation of private property rights.Why should utilities, education, military, and infrastructure be considered private property? Why should we desire a handful of international megacorporations dominating our lives as an ideal to strive for? I can get all the benefits of capitalism under NatSoc while not being surrounded by niggers and jews.
>>542108174They push communism. Every propaganda organ they have shouts about it endlessly, and has for over 100 years. You just don't pay attention.
>>542107596i didn't mean uk labor retard
>>542108683>every single prominent National Socialist / Fascist organization has been CIA sockpuppetsgee I wonder why
>>542089029They do the same thing with nazism
>>542108726Name five Hollywood movies that call for a communist revolution against the capitalist ownership class.
>>542108764Because NatSoc is a threat to them, so they use it as controlled opposition
>>542107032>>542105779In the UK, they banned political uniforms in response to the BUF. They went after the poor now murdered in prison kids in National Action who wore black citing that law, meanwhile they let antifa dress up in all black all the time and never bother them. They also let lefty groups like Just Stop Oil wear uniforms. They specifically target white male right-wing groups that advocate for their nation; and they call all of these fascist regardless of the particulars of ideology.You leftists are just wrong. You are their useful idiots. They even ship you in to cause problems for genuine nationalists and then protect you and give you rides home in police vehicles. We literally saw this recently during the anti-migrant protests in Essex. Antifa being shielded by police and loaded into police vans to be taken home when the masses had kicked you out.Note they call those old boomers who don't want 'asylum seeker' niggers and pakis lurking outside schools of their children as 'far right' too.You aren't the revolution. You aren't fighting tyrants. You are the naive footsoldiers of traitors and jews who are trying to destroy normal decent white people. Fascists are those normal decent white people who realise democracy isn't working.
>>542108529North korea is juche. Juche is closer to naziism. Honestly though, juche is closest to a heriditary monarchy.
>>542108670Well that's less than 900 people.
>>542108670But they are not zelensky.
>>542108228Because we (the west as a collective) lost on our last stand against jews, now they control institutions and create dichotomies for controlled oppositions. You're simply not allowed to spontaneously organize under racial and national motivated ideologies, this includes communist parties as well: in italy the PCI got demolished, now all it remains is purity spiraling miniparties that fracture themselves eternally, sometimes joining in short lived movements that rarely amount as more than 0.3% of public consensus, just as much for the alleged third position / "real" far right parties.The original ideology got subverted and killed, just as much as the racial spirit of europeans.
>>542108796Almost every hollywood film has covert or overt communist messages, and has since we've had a hollywood. You just don't pay attention.
>>542089029Lmao
is he saying that the communists didn't have elite? because it sounds like he is
>>542108960>Almost every hollywood film has covert or overt communist messagesThen naming 5 should be easy
>>542109206SureMatrixStarwarsFerngullyHalloweenThe marvel cinematic universe.Now, are you media literate enough to understand this?
>>542108960So name five. >>542108835In the UK, anti-immigration rioters are given police protection and you're thrown in prison for protesting Israel. All of the far right groups are Zionist are pro-Israel. None of this is a coincidence.
>>542108796The number of movies which feature a heroic 'people' fighting against some dastartdly oppresive regime is huge. This Ur-leftism, straight from the Enlightenment. The problem of course is that in real life 'the people' are not a motive force but an instrument, rather there is always a nascent elite which guides them. This was as true in France as it was in Russia and in China. This is why, say, NPR glazes DSA candidates at every turn: their 'revolution' in 'empowering' 'the people' will actually serve mostly to enhance the power of those in media and academia which manufacture the opinions of said people.
>>542108838>Juche is closer to naziismThey are antifascist, retard"The DPRK was part of the major international anti-fascist alliance against Germany, Italy, Japan... Korea's liberation on August 15, 1945, was a victory of the world peace-loving people against Japan and fascism."— Official Joint Statement by the Swiss Group for the Study of the Juche Idea, published by the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA)
>>542109384In real life fascists are the thugs fighting people on the streets on behalf of jewish pedophiles.
>>542090114>They fear fascismYou mean the ideology that will simply make the useful idiots remove muh jewz and replace or keep the elite white people? you think the elites care about their race? fascism will just lead to private industry taking advantage under the guise of muh nation. The workers will lose their labor and housing rights because it'll be bad for the nation. You are fucking retards
>>542109409It is impossible to be nationalist and communist. Juche is closer to a heriditary monarchy than anything else. It is closer to fascism than nazism.
>>542089029Twist: the whole of the international investment banking supoorts you becoming a communist and are actively sponsoring the operation of doing so. The international capital can't be wrong
>>542109344There is a kosher right that gets some protection but the far right absolutely does not and we repeatedly have seen the police protect antifa even against kosher right movements like Tommy Robinson and his 'foot ball lads alliance'.Look up how the state treat Britain Firsr, Patriotic Alternative and worst of all... National Action. May those kids rest in peace. For those who don't know NA got set up, it was probably a honey pot from the start, and they were all murdered in prison when they were supposed to be protected. Before they got murdered we saw the police and antifa and the mayor of Liverpool work together to try to get those mostly 16-18 year old white lads killed. It makes my blood boil.
>>542090114They just did an experiment not half a decade ago where they got 100% clarification that indeed over 75% of the western populace is docile nigger cattle.They got atleast 75% of the west to inject mysterious concoctions over an illness no worse than the flu, where nobody was seen dying in the street and not one single hospital shut down over 'overload'.They don't really fear 'facists' or 'fascism' either. They fear someone other than them, taking control of this populace of niggercattle and directing it towards them. As the current controllers remain in control they don't care what ideas get sowed. Globalism is inherently anti nationalism though and they need the whole world enslaved to keep up with the excess.they are most fearful of people that do direct action like mangione as opposed to those spree shooters. they love when innocent low level plebs get maimed and murdered in the streets, it helps the strategy of tension, but tactically take out people in positions of power within zog istheir biggest nightmare.As long as you want to vote your way , and use the monetary system they dont give a shit. They bring into the west everyone that hates each other and they know it will get bad, because we all use the same monetary system. They fear people that don't want government, want to declare the debts odious, and burn their bloodlines. Thats who they fear. Fascism is financed from central bankers at all times in history, it benefits the central banker controllers on plenty of occasion. The best form of government is no government at all. Live as Free Man, and take care of yourself. you dont need someone else to help you. you are more than capable.
>>542109532Class is fake. Race is real.
>>542109621So when the land is privatized, when you're abused by your boss and landlord, when your rights and freedoms are taken away.You'll think to yourself>at least the people doing it are hwiteIs that it?
>>542109599It was a honeypot from the start like every other fascist group all the way back fucking Hitler lmao. Your movement will never be anything but a tool for Zionist capitalist Epsteinite control. Strategy of Tension.
>>542109532>you think elites care about raceHave you not been paying attention to all the mass immigration and migrant crisis and asylum seeker stuff? That the normal people REPEATEDLY vote against? How controlled opposition like Trump and Farage start off saying they will stop immigration then tell us we need more infinity Indians on H1Bs and that we need the islamic vote in the UK and that 'we will lose' if we don't pander to them? Have you not seen Barbara Spectre's infamous interview that is like so many other jewish interviews where they say they want to destroy our demographics so that we will be too busy fighting other races and so they can hide away getting fat as parasites while all the other factions fight?
>>542109724When it happens to you are you going to say "at least they are revolutionaries"?No system removes corruption. Homogeniety makes it exponentially less likey, and this knowledge is older than the incarnation of the christ. It has been proven time, and time again. You simply don't understand things good and fell for baby's first psyop.
>>542108529The DPRK is closer to some combination of monarchy and Strasserism than communism.>>542108683>So in other words, you were talking out your assThis is like when communists get mad and say that other kinds of commie are true communists. Just because it's not identical to the national socialist policies you think are important, doesn't mean that the zionist program doesn't follow the corporatist program which that national socialists and fascists also followed.>Why should utilities, education, military, and infrastructure be considered private property?A lot of reasons. To start with, the moral reason of taxation being theft, but also for the pragmatic reasons that temporary caretakers of public property have no incentive to improve it, compulsory monopolies provide poor service at exorbitant prices, and economic calculation being impossible without prices and you cannot have prices without a market.>Why should we desire a handful of international megacorporations dominating our lives as an ideal to strive for?I don't know, why are you striving for that? I want to end that state of affairs, while national socialism and fascism are actively corporatist ideologies. The megacorporations which exist today could not survive in a free market.>I can get all the benefits of capitalism under NatSoc while not being surrounded by niggers and jews.You get none of the benefits of capitalism. Meanwhile in an anarcho-capitalist social order homogeneity of culture, language, race, and custom would be enforceable by agreements between property owners. Imagine if everyone could just say "you are not welcome here" and they had no state to wield against you to make you serve them anyway. What if that applied to the roads, the police, the education system, which would all be private, and thus their owners would be free to exclude undesirables? You know that the Jewish ghettos of Europe weren't mandated by the state right?
>>542108322Ah... So you're a retarded leftist. You don't understand what a "rhetorical question" is. I make more than you and have more than you because I am smarter than you and work harder than you. Your preferred system cannot elevate you. It can only reduce me to your level. That's why it will never work, has never worked. Even in the USSR the best and brightest lived on easy street with amenities approaching a Western lifestyle if they could produce at a level the state needed. And we're not talking about excess potato production. We're talking engineers at Mig and Tupolev lived way better than the retards who did regular jagoff work like you.
>>542109797Look you stupid nigger, NA being a honeypot meant to appeal to 15 year old boys and get them killed does not mean it is wrong for us as a nation to re-take what is our inheritance. Like I've said repeatedly they call any white men who organise and advocate for their own interests as fascists.Your hatred of the word fascist is infantile. If you want to have a debate on the meaning and diverse manifestations of it, we can. We had a bit of that in the thread earlier. From the basic concept of militant unity to football hooliganism to a middle class revolt to a slur to be aimed at any white person not okay with losing their home to paki rape gangs or nigger drug dealers; it can mean all of those. You want it to be lackeys of a demagogue; but rarely is it that, and even when that becomes an aspect it is usually the already-grown base finding themselves an advocate among the upper class.The fact remains jews use anarchists and communists to oppose honest and decent people trying to bring about order and justice. You are overwhelmingly petty criminals and are all useful idiots for the state.
>>542109971>>542109566Lol whatever you say.Real revolutionaries know who actually uses fascism: "When the imperialists face a severe political and economic crisis, they often turn to fascism to suppress the people's revolutionary struggle and maintain their rule."— Kim Jong Il, On the Juche Idea [1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Juche_Idea)
>>542110275>guy doing an evil says "i'm not doing an evil!">this means he's not doing an evilThe credulity of communists is truly awe inspiring.
>>542104825>It's called a faggotthat's just loose sticks gathered by peasants.a fasces is a bound bundle of wooden rods, and an axe.you can't just gather up a woodland branches for spears and poleaxes. fun fact, you can find the image of the fasces all over the American government.
>>542104825>forgot pic
>>542089029>220-192lmayo
>>542103407Parenzo mentioned on 4chan,now i have seen everything
>>542110361Every communist who has ever existed has had the intellectual and emotional capacity of the average 14 year old. It all boils down to, "Those people who are smarter than me, work harder than me, and have more than me shouldn't have more than me!"
>>542109310Explain Halloween.
>>542110389Still gonna call you a faggot for having a faggot as your logo
>>542109409Of course they don't call themselves fascists or national socialists, they also wouldn't call themselves monarchists, but they have a hereditary absolute ruler and the state is basically his private property. I'm talking about how I'd describe their program, not how they would. If you read their actual speeches, read about their culture, and generally spend some time trying to understand the DPRK you'd realize they really aren't like any other state which has ever existed before. North Korea is a weird place. They removed the word communism from their constitution a few decades ago, Juche actually is their official state ideology. The word Juche is frequently translated as "independence" but it actually is a translation of a German word with no direct equivalent in English.>>542110361I would hesitate to call the DPRK evil, or at least more evil than other states. They're resolute about independence, in spite of sharing a border with two of the most powerful countries in the world and still being officially at war with a proxy of the third on their southern border. If they weren't so brutal they'd have had a color revolution or something decades ago and become an American puppet to be Ukraine'd against Russia and China.
>>542111511It wasn't a moral judgement, more an example to demonstrate his lack of thought.>>542110988The horror genre are modern day moral plays. Halloween's central moral is your community is bad and does bad things and won't help you. You know who understands you? Jewish psychologists.
>>542089029wtf does "condemning & denouncing" even do?
>>542111511Calling the DPRK a 'fascist monarchy' collapses under basic political economy: per Dimitrov, fascism is the dictatorship of finance capital over private property, whereas North Korea operates on socialized state ownership
