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>>542099689
Kill all dick mutilation cultists and their enablers.

Freedom is when your model is South Africa. The more you steal from and kill whitey, the more free it is

>>542099689
you're not that important or interesting, little one.

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Why won't mamdani return Manhattan to the native Americans if he hates genocide and stolen land so much?

blow it out your ass faggot

>>542099770
I'm very against that.

>>542099880
Nobody is talking about South Africa except you

>>542099916
Just having an education makes me more respected than trailer trash like yourself. So there's that. Everybody yawns at trailer trash like yourself.

>>542099958
Not in our interests.

>>542099689
>A core part of the Democratic platform is that war should be used as a last resort, not a first.
Not true. Dems started the Vietnam War.
>Obama = no wars
Obama dropped more bombs on brown children than any other President,
>We need to audit the Pentagon,
Let's do this after all American tax dollars for illegals stops.
>Obama restored the Jeffersonian spirit to America by rolling back Reagan/Nixon's war on drugs.
American cities became a zombie drug zone under Obama. Google Kensington Ave.
Fuck off you commie faggot.

>>542100201
>memeflag
>”education”
i’ve held a masters degree for 10 years now.
again, blow it out your ass, faggot

>>542100271
>Not true. Dems started the Vietnam War.
Yeah, as a last resort

>Obama dropped more bombs on brown children than any other President,
What are you going to do about it?

>Let's do this after all American tax dollars for illegals stops.
Why not cut money to boomers first?

>American cities became a zombie drug zone under Obama. Google Kensington Ave.
Not his problem, cry about it.

>>542099689
if you weren't a communist at age 20 you don't have a heart
if you're still one at 25 you don't have a brain

>>542101114
I say if you're still supporting gassing people for not having blond hair at age 25 then you're a nutcase.

>>542099770
>I’m for the Holy Inquisition.
Everyone could just say you are against the church or you know if witchcraft within your family or did something similar yourself, and you you would be fucked. Because that's how it worked back then. People denounced others out of hate or greed or whatever. Those ones were as good as dead. And the end was not a quick death.

>>542099689
How does your cause serve Jesus Christ?

>>542101069
>Yeah, as a last resort
??? Did the Vietnamese attack us? What was last resort about getting 50k young American boys killed.
>What are you going to do about it?
The fact that this is your answer to Obama=peaceman proves you already lost the argument.
>Why not cut money to boomers first?
Boomers paid taxes their entire lives. Illegals dont' work and get free gibs.
>Not his problem, cry about it.
Yes it is, you said "Obama restored the Jeffersonian spirit to America by rolling back Reagan/Nixon's war on drugs." You went from bragging about Obama's drug policy to "not his problem" like a r3ddit faggot real fucking quick.
>20 minute reply
>r3ddit spacing
SAD

>>542101352
>Did the Vietnamese attack us? What was last resort about getting 50k young American boys killed.
You had the Gulf of Tonkin incident. The U.S. destroyer USS Maddox was conducting an intelligence-gathering mission close to North Vietnamese waters. Three North Vietnamese torpedo boats pursued and attacked the ship. The Maddox returned fire, damaging the boats.

>The fact that this is your answer to Obama=peaceman proves you already lost the argument.
Actually, the fact that you even brought up Obama and bombs proved you lost the argument. You had no argument so you had to bring up Obama.

>Boomers paid taxes their entire lives. Illegals dont' work and get free gibs.
The entire point of tax is redistribution. Taking someones money just to give it back to them ruins the entire point of taxes. In that case why even tax them in the first place if you're going to use that same money to give it back to them?

>Yes it is, you said "Obama restored the Jeffersonian spirit to America by rolling back Reagan/Nixon's war on drugs." You went from bragging about Obama's drug policy to "not his problem" like a r3ddit faggot real fucking quick.
Because it's not the President's problem if your city is a shithole, that's YOUR CITY'S problem. Obama is in Washington D.C and is the commander and chief of the military. If Seattle has a bunch of zombies it's quite literally not his problem UNLESS it becomes a national security issue.

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>>542099872
spbp

Every wannabe intellectual on the left reveals themselves to be a delusional pie in the sky utopian at best or resentful spiteful mutant at worst. There are no exceptions.

>>542101545
>You had the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
100% a non-attack retard. Holy fuck learn your history. Let me guess, you believe Saddam had WMDs?
>Actually, the fact that you even brought up Obama and bombs proved you lost the argument.
??????
You: "Obama = peace"
Me: "He bombed kids"
You: WHY YOU BRING THAT UP? YOU LOSE!
Real SAD.
>The entire point of tax is redistribution.
As I said, start not giving tax funded gibs to illegals, then we can have this conversation.
>Because it's not the President's problem if your city is a shithole
Then why were YOU bragging about his drug policy?

>>542101647
>100% a non-attack retard.
Oh so you're a conspiracy nut. I'm distrustful of governments but if you believe tinfoil hat garbage like that then there's no point in talking to you.

Learn history, read a book, stop believing everything on X. Buckley HATED conservatives like you because it paints the entire movement as white trash.

>Obama bombed kids
It's war, it happens, that's not at all comparable to deliberate attacks on civilians or unprovoked wars of aggression. It's so stupid to bring up civilian causalities as if that's the be all end all.

>Then why were YOU bragging about his drug policy?
Because it gave power back to the States, and gave States more autonomy as to whether they wanted to crack down on drugs or become drug zombie shitholes like you said, which is aligned with the Founders vision of the U.S

>>542099689
I will join the Democratic party if you post your region flag

>>542099689
Democrats are so heckin based!

>>542101762
>Oh so you're a conspiracy nut. I'm distrustful of governments but if you believe tinfoil hat garbage like that then there's no point in talking to you.
Legit nobody believes the Gulf of Tonkin attack was real. Again, do YOU believe Saddam actually had WMDs?
>It's war, it happens,
When did we declare war on Yemen and other countries in the Middle East. And again, you went from Dems = PEACE to "it's war, it's happens". SAD
>It's so stupid to bring up civilian causalities as if that's the be all end all.
STOP BRINGING UP OBAMA KILLING KIDS - you
>Because it gave power back to the States,
So like abortion.....
And the policy of giving drug power back to the states has been a disaster. You can't praise a policy as great and then ignore the consequences.
>which is aligned with the Founders vision of the U.S
So you are an NRA member that is pro 2nd Amendment?

>>542101762
>Oh so you're a conspiracy nut. I'm distrustful of governments
From the US GOVERNMENT
"Questions about the Gulf of Tonkin incidents have persisted for more than 40 years. But once-classified documents and tapes released in the past several years, combined with previously uncovered facts, make clear that high government officials distorted facts and deceived the American public about events that led to full U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War."
https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2008/february/truth-about-tonkin

Are you in Hasan's stream?

Nobody really likes Democrats. Too identity-coded.

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>>542101918
>Legit nobody believes the Gulf of Tonkin attack was real.
Literally nobody denies it, even Alex Jones admitted it happened when pushed.

>When did we declare war on Yemen and other countries in the Middle East. And again, you went from Dems = PEACE to "it's war, it's happens". SAD
The War on Terror occurred after 9/11. And wut? Declared war? We haven't declared war since WW2.

>So like abortion.....
Exactly

>And the policy of giving drug power back to the states has been a disaster. You can't praise a policy as great and then ignore the consequences.
It's been perfect in every single way. It was a disaster before Obama did it.

>So you are an NRA member that is pro 2nd Amendment?
I support it reluctantly, 2nd amendment definitely goes against the spirit of the U.S constitution so I would like them to amend it back.

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>>542099689
>19 Year old
>Fan of Clinton

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>>542099689
Soon picrel will be you and I'll laugh. Thank you for your comedic contributions.

>>542102183
Bill Clinton, not Hillary

>>542102169
>Literally nobody denies it, even Alex Jones admitted it happened when pushed.
Your AI pic says
>2nd attack did NOT happen
That's the attack that Johnson used to get America into the war full steam, retard.
AGAIN: Do you believe Saddam had WMDs? If you don't answer this is your last (you).
>The War on Terror occurred after 9/11. And wut? Declared war? We haven't declared war since WW2.
Did Yemen attack us? If Obama was a man of peace, why didn't he stop killing brown kids that didn't attack us?
>We haven't declared war since WW2.
You: Only Republicans stars wars
You: Acktually we haven't declare war since WW2
>Exactly
So you support the ending of Roe v Wade? Fascinating.
>It's been perfect in every single way. It was a disaster before Obama did it.
Cities were zombie drug zones before Obama.
>, 2nd amendment definitely goes against the spirit of the U.S constitution so I would like them to amend it back.
So the FOUNDING FATHERS wrting the 2nd amendment goes against the constitution that they wrote?
Listen to yourself.

>>542100201
you don't have an education, kiddo. you're 19, naive and ignorant, and apparently a massive narcissist. you're cooked and you haven't even left the gate lmao

>>542102399
>Cities were zombie drug zones before Obama.
WEREN'T

>>542100201
>Nobody is talking about South Africa except you
Mamdani did, on record.

>>542102399
>That's the attack that Johnson used to get America into the war full steam, retard.
Johnson claimed both attacks were part of one unified attack. The initial attack DID happen you fucking moron.

>Do you believe Saddam had WMDs?
No he obviously didn't. Why the fuck would you ask such a retarded question?

>Did Yemen attack us? If Obama was a man of peace, why didn't he stop killing brown kids that didn't attack us?
They were a stronghold for terrorists

>So you support the ending of Roe v Wade? Fascinating.
I did.

>Cities were zombie drug zones before Obama.
Holy fuck you're retarded. Before Obama no city was able to become like that because drug policy was FEDERALIZED. Even if a State fully legalized drugs, the FEDs would come in and clean it up. Before Obama it was a Federalized military police nightmare where drug raids of Federal DEA agents would come into Liberal states without warning.

>So the FOUNDING FATHERS wrting the 2nd amendment goes against the constitution that they wrote?
You realize the Founding Fathers didn't all agree on the amendments right? Alexander Hamilton opposed the entire drafting of the amendments. It was exclusively Thomas Jefferson, who didn't even write the original constitution, who pushed for the Bill of Rights.

The entire purpose of the constitution was to grant the people of the U.S freedom and rights to govern themselves, the 2nd amendment removes that from them.

>>542102403
You're an uneducated trailer trash.

>>542102703
since your cause does not serve Jesus Christ, then it will be sent into the lake of fire alongside the Devil and his angels.

>>542102669
>Johnson claimed both attacks were part of one unified attack.
Yes, HE LIED. Fucking retard.
>No he obviously didn't. Why the fuck would you ask such a retarded question?
WHAT? B-BUT THE GOVERMENT SAID HE DID? WHY DON'T YOU TRUST THE GOVERNMENT YOU CRAZY CONSPIRACY NUT!
>They were a stronghold for terrorists
Yeah, all those little kid terrorists....Iraq was a stronghold for terrorist too but Obama got us out of their, funny how you pick and choose.
>. Before Obama no city was able to become like that because drug policy was FEDERALIZED
I fucked my post and corrected it here >>542102440
But you still agree with me. BEFORE Obama cities were cleaner
You: "Even if a State fully legalized drugs, the FEDs would come in and clean it up. "
Obama and his drug policy wrecked cities.
>The entire purpose of the constitution was to grant the people of the U.S freedom and rights to govern themselves, the 2nd amendment removes that from them.
Explain in detail.
And you keep bringing up the FOUNDING FATHERS but now you think they are WRONG.
You are all over the place.

>>542099770
I did not expect that.

>>542101069
Oh.
You’re stupid.
Abandon thread.

>>542099689

VOTING IS FAKE AND JEWISH

>>542102169
>It's been perfect in every single way. It was a disaster before Obama did it.
The DNC continues the policy of willful ignorance when it comes to the actual conditions of their streets. They don't want anyone drawing attention to their policy failures so they just don't talk about them and a complicit press ignores them as well. This is how democrat mayors handle the fent epidemic in their states. By helping it along with ngo's feeding them paraphernalia and then pretending it doesn't exist until reelection.

>>542099958
This. Im not reading all this bullshit but really, this.
Im a red skin and everything about me wants to murder browns, blacks and yellows in America.
Whites are okay, they proven themselves.

>>542099689
>Taxing the rich and balancing the budget
I literally only care about this. I knew trump would be a corporate crony but I didn't know it would be bad enough that he would reduce their tax rate with zero limits on allowing stock buybacks in his first term.
Everyone knows we need to either tax rich more or reduce spending to balance the budget. Increasing taxes on rich can work but every time this occurs they find ways to weasel out of the taxes. For example, Jeff Bezos was getting a 70k salary with the rest in stock so when he needed money he would take out a loan against the stock and never pay it back so that he never had to have a taxable event of selling stock to have cash like a poorfag would have to do.
How do you think Democratic Socialist could break decades of laws creating loopholes? One idea I have is a direct tax on account balances but those can be hidden behind trust which were a loophole created to help the rich. How do you tax the so called "private equity" where no one knows the true balance? If you cannot have a viable tax solution to these issues then the rich will hide behind them. And the only possible way I see that happening is a transaction tax similar to Trumps's foreign remittance tax or VAT with absolutely zero allowed exceptions.

>>542099689
>politics works!
You retarded naive fuck, but you're gay, so it makes sense.

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>>542099689
>did mommydaddy give you cummies?

>>542102866
>You: "Even if a State fully legalized drugs, the FEDs would come in and clean it up. "
>Obama and his drug policy wrecked cities.

That just proves that cleaning up cities is not a good thing. It can only be done with FEDERAL WAR ON DRUGS

this fucking commie shit has gone for too long now, it needs to be brutally suppressed

>>542104337
*clears throat*
*leans into mic*
nigger

>>542104337
>reply 25 minutes later
>meme flag removed
>you're a pajeet leaf
SAD
>That just proves that cleaning up cities is not a good thing.
LISTEN TO YOURSELF.
Funny how you ignored the rest of the arguments. Still think Gulf of Tonkin was real despite Johnson lying about it? SAD.

>>542104466
I'm born in Canada.

Also, it is true the Vietnamese did attack an American ship in the Gulf of Tonkin, even if he lied about details, it did happen.

>>542099689
Why is it that, or how would explain the fact that DSA describe themselves as "democratic socialists" rather than social democrats? What does that signify and mean, to your mind?

>>542104513
>I'm born in Canada.
Lots of pajeets are born in Canada
>Also, it is true the Vietnamese did attack an American ship in the Gulf of Tonkin, even if he lied about details, it did happen.
He LIED because American ships were there where they shouldn't of been. He also knew he would have to LIE to get more American boots on the ground
"However, declassified documents and historical consensus have revealed that U.S. ships were actually operating inside waters claimed by North Vietnam as part of a highly classified, aggressive espionage operation"
You are so fucking SAD. Do you still trust the US government? Still think Saddam had WMDs? Bush lied about that too.

>>542104687
So it happened he just lied about some details

>>542104679
It just means they’re further left and a way to signal that


>>542104687
Also I’m ethnically Pakistani but fully assimilated, no accent

>>542105194
>So it happened he just lied about some details
Yes, to expand his war and get 50k Americans killed. So much for "Dems don't start wars", in this case they LIE to start wars.

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>>542104098
Honestly kill yourself. Red team blue team both sides hate you and me. Falling for the jewish mitosis has created a society which went from the "golden age" in 1950s to modern serfs as corporate and rich tax rates declined.
All that I know with 100% certainty is that as tax rates have decreased life has gotten worse for lower and middle classes.
You can argue tax rates for lower incomes were higher back then but social assistance programs also were far greater. Inflation had not kicked in and a house cost under 10k. If my current income were in the same tax bracket in 1950s when reversing inflation I could buy a house with 2 years of savings in full. Even accounting for taxes and other expense. Today I can save about 35k a year after taxes and expenses which would be 10 years of savings to buy a house in full.
And you know why housing was so cheap back then? Because the government had millions of men after ww2 that wanted houses so they used the taxes to kickstart construction. You know why education was so cheap? The government used taxes to enable colleges to start up in mass.
The way we are going now you either let the rich continue to influence and buy politicians as they are now. JD Vance is an example who is owned by Peter Thiel. In which case as they get more power they will enact more policies that benefit the rich and take wealth away from the lower and middle class. Or you tax the rich. Viewing this any other way is pure retarded well poisoning.

>>542105194
>>542105233
Why did you change your ID you fucking schizo?
>Also I’m ethnically Pakistani but fully assimilated, no accent
Just as bad as a pajeet.

>>542105253
It was needed to stop the spread of Soviet aggression across east Asia. It was a necessary evil.

>>542105274
They hate you yet they’re enriching your family right now while you whine.


Taxing the rich doesnt work, it’s shit policy,

>>542105274
Also, the rich pay more in taxes now than ever before.

>>542105339
>It was needed to stop the spread of Soviet aggression across east Asia. It was a necessary evil.
So a commie now thinks it was necessary to stop the spread of communism?
You are a complete schizo.
And no, it wasn't necessary as the war failed anyway in it's goal of doing what you claim.

>>542099689
This reads like ai slop.

>>542105411
>Also, the rich pay more in taxes now than ever before.
Are you fucking retarded? The tax rate for corporation and rich individuals was much higher pre-Reagan.

>>542105295
I grew up on John Wayne and Disney I’m fully Canadian /American. Hate Bollywood and wear deodorant. I’m like one of those cool brown dudes in a frat not like the creepy ones. I’m like Kumar from harold and Kumar

>>542105493
>I grew up on John Wayne and Disney I’m fully Canadian /American. Hate Bollywood and wear deodorant. I’m like one of those cool brown dudes in a frat not like the creepy ones. I’m like Kumar from harold and Kumar
"Hey Gemini, describe me as a cool pajeet".

>>542105461
Look at total federwl inlays not the rate you fucking moron.

And even if that be the case, that doesn’t mean it’s the cause of the middle classes struggled

>>542105423
So a literal Neo-Nazi is now condemning LBJ for fighting to stop communism.

>>542105528
>Look at total federwl inlays not the rate you fucking moron.
Stop making dumb claims and post your evidence.
>And even if that be the case,
It is.
>that doesn’t mean it’s the cause of the middle classes struggled
I never said it was.

>>542099689
>a 19 Year old
Retard.
>Came here to have a reasonable discussion
Double retard.

You're a tool.

>>542105593
>So a literal Neo-Nazi is now condemning LBJ for fighting to stop communism.
"YOU ARE A LE NAZI!"
SAD
And yes, I condemn the Vietnam War because it was a poorly thought out war that didn't accomplish it's goals.
Remember how you started with "Dems don't start wars"? Now you are defending the worst war of the 20th century.

>>542099689
>Democratic Socialist
Brown people voting to take white peoples shit.

Go home, stop destroying our country.
I don’t want a welfare state for foreigners if their ancestors didn’t die in wars like mine did. Fuck you and all the brown entitled inbreds coming here.

>>542102223
That's even worse lol

>>542099689

you're a gay nigger that got bamboozled by another dirt bag politician
you are basically a empty headed NPC who does the bidding of people smart enough to take advantage of you

>/pol/ law #420

>Any White man who identifies as a leftist is either incredibly stupid/naive or incredibly evil/corrupt, usually both. There is literally no other option.

This thread is yet another great example of this law.

>>542105826
Although OP is probably a shit skin given their retarded opinions.

>>542105682
>”You are le Commie!!!”

You have no argument so you call me a commie.

I support Vietnam since it was to hold off the spread of Communist totalitarian and it worked. It saved Asia and the world from the virus of totalitarian communism

>>542105608
You said:

>” All that I know with 100% certainty is that as tax rates have decreased life has gotten worse for lower and middle classes.”

That’s not evidence of anything stupid

>>542105716
Your ancestors were suckers and losers

>>542105765
You’re a stupid creepy pedophile who can get away with your creepiness because your wealthy parents get you out of trouble.
.
Youre an NPC slob

>>542105870
>>”You are le Commie!!!”
You admitted to campaigning for Mamdami you retard.
>I support Vietnam since it was to hold off the spread of Communist totalitarian and it worked.
Explain in detail how it worked. And AGAIN you went from "Dems don't start wars" to "Ok they do and I support the war".
>It saved Asia and the world from the virus of totalitarian communism
Vietnam is a communist country.
>>” All that I know with 100% certainty is that as tax rates have decreased life has gotten worse for lower and middle classes.”
Post exact where I said this you fucking retard. I don't change me flag or ID like you. Lying faggot.

>>542099689
1)
Sure, but ultimately, I don’t care. Belligerence to our own ends is good, the issue is we are doing so for a foreign country that hates us.
2)
Democrats cannot balance the budget, however, nobody can. To do so is to cut the military budget significant and to cut social benefits.
3)
This is the most important one to address.
Why is it that the federal government is no longer an imperial presence ONLY for vice economies? They will regulate everything to high heaven, but when it comes to things that are clearly social negatives, they go hands off. The one time I want the state to be imperial is in moral code and social health, and with drugs they are just letting it all slide. Similar to the sports betting and onlyfans issues, these are obviously vices which the state is allowing because it makes money.

>>542099689
hey what's up
the real dichotomy of the world is NIMBY vs YIMBY
if your boy Mandani or whatever is a NIMBY in disguise, he will be killed in a civil war
NIMBY extremism has passed the point of no return
total NIMBY death

>>542099689
>the Straight blocked
Stopped reading here

>>542106027
> You admitted to campaigning for Mamdami you retard
Yeah because I’m not a racist who thinks only Aryans should be holding office

> Explain in detail how it worked. And AGAIN you went from "Dems don't start wars" to "Ok they do and I support the war".
I never once said they don’t start wars

The Vietnam war held off USSR expansion in east Asia for decades and costed them billions. That’s money and time they couldnt use to spread Communism. We did the same thing in Afghanistan to trap them in an unwinnable war

>>542099689
Why do socialists and other such people who think they support the working class vehemently puch the most destructive policies for the working class; mass migration of brown people?

>>542099689
Have you ever beaten Castlevania Rondo of Blood and Contra Hard Corps? Have you beaten every Zelda game up to Breath of the Wild? How many different versions of Doom have you played?
I'm dead serious BTW. These are vital questions.

>>542106200
Boosting the economy, increasing culture, and bringing in more tax payers to take burden off the working class is somehow bad for them?

>>542106117
>Yeah because I’m not a racist who thinks only Aryans should be holding office
There were other candidates in the NYC primary race that weren't Aryans. You campaigned for the commie, thus you are one.
>I never once said they don’t start wars
You said Obama didn't. You also said "A core part of the Democratic platform is that war should be used as a last resort, not a first. "
The Vietnam war disproves this.
>The Vietnam war held off USSR expansion in east Asia for decades and costed them billions.
>for decades
So 50k men died in a useless war just for a minor delay. And as soon as Nixon left the commies took over Vietnam. If Dems hated communism so much why didn't they adhere to Nixon's Vietnam policies?
>We did the same thing in Afghanistan to trap them in an unwinnable war
You are insane. INSANE. Vietnam and Afghanistan were failures and quagmires.
AGAIN
>>” All that I know with 100% certainty is that as tax rates have decreased life has gotten worse for lower and middle classes.”
Post exact where I said this you fucking retard. I don't change me flag or ID like you. Lying faggot.

>>542106260
>Boosting the economy
Name these socialist countries with booming economies.

>>542106117
>Yeah because I’m not a racist who thinks only Aryans should be holding office
Also, why didn't you support Mayor Adams, the BLACK mayor of NYC.
You literally think NYC was run by aryans before Mamdani. SAD

>>542106260
Destroying the economy, ruining culture and brining in more tax eaters is very bad for everyone actually.

Tldr

>>542106335
>Better options
So voting for a Democrst since he was the best choice makes me a commie?

> You said Obama didn't. You also said "A core part of the Democratic platform is that war should be used as a last resort, not a first. "
Vietnam war was a last resort after arming and advising the South Vietnamese wasn’t working to stop the spread of the USSR

> So 50k men died in a useless war just for a minor delay. And as soon as Nixon left the commies took over Vietnam. If Dems hated communism so much why didn't they adhere to Nixon's Vietnam policies?
So only 50k men died to save the world from global communist takeover? And that’s not a good deal?


> You are insane. INSANE. Vietnam and Afghanistan were failures and quagmires.
You’re mentally ill if you think either of those weren’t successes

> Post exact where I said this you fucking retard. I don't change me flag or ID like you. Lying faggot.
The retard said that

>>542106365
United States in the 1950s, Singapore today

>>542106059
>muh puritan boomer views
Fuck off

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>>542099689
Nah fuck off
Both of you are anti white, anti freedom, anti gun, anti free speech, anti America, anti Constitution and anti privacy
I'd rather send you all to Hell

>>542106251
>no mention of Tears of the Kingdom

>>542106778
>So voting for a Democrst since he was the best choice makes me a commie?
You said you campaigned for Mamdami because he wasn't aryan, but Mayor Adams was BLACK. Why not campaign for him? Because you are a commie that supports the commie.
>Vietnam war was a last resort after arming and advising the South Vietnamese wasn’t working to stop the spread of the USSR
You don't have to LIE to get into last resort wars.
>So only 50k men died to save the world from global communist takeover? And that’s not a good deal?
This didn't happen. China was still communist, Vietnam became communist. You are literally defending the most unpopular and useless war in American history because it was started by a Democrat. SAD.
>You’re mentally ill if you think either of those weren’t successes
You think Vietnam and Afghanistan were a success? Wow. WOW.
>The retard said that
You said I SAID IT. >>542105918
You are so brainbroken you can't even follow who said what.

>>542105918
I am not the anon you are arguing with. My point is as tax rates on rich has decreased it also has lead to a decrease in the size of the middle class. It also has head to a decrease in economic mobility where a lower class can become upper class. Mainly because the socialist policies that existed in the 1950s enabled lower classes to have a higher economic floor which let them take more risk to raise their economic status.

>>542106810
>United States in the 1950s
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH WHAT?
>Singapore today
"Singapore's economic model blends extensive state intervention with a competitive free-market system, leading to ongoing debates about whether it can be considered socialist or capitalist"
WRONG AGAIN

keep up the good work patriot!

>>542107091
Singapore doesn't tax the working class, they have a $300bn sovereign wealth fund that funds their entire bureaucracy and administration. Literal collective ownership over the means of production

>>542107062
>My point is as tax rates on rich has decreased it also has lead to a decrease in the size of the middle class. It also has head to a decrease in economic mobility where a lower class can become upper class.
You have no evidence of this.

>>542099689
>Came here to have a reasonable discussion
Hm, ok, let's try.
To understand politics you fundamentally have to understand this:
there is a communist world conspiracy and they're getting closer to a global take over.
Since the year 1917, when the first successful communist revolution happend in Russia, international marxists plan to take over the world and create a global communist empire. But after ww1 and ww2 it became clear to them that it's not that easy. Especially the western world resisted strongly against communism. So they came up with another strategy called "cultural marxism". It was different from the classic workers fight against capitalists. It was a strategy of infiltration to get marxists in many institutions, political parties of course, but also banks, media, universities, schools, the administration, even churches. This was happening since the 1960s, and with many marxists in key possitions they slowly started a culture war. The plan is to cause as much conflict and chaos as possible, in politics, society, and economy. Divide the people, black and white, men and women, liberals and conservatives, straight and gay, etc. The more hate and devision the better, because a destabelized country is ready for a revolution. It happens now in America, Europe, and to some degree everywhere in the world. The international marxists have infiltrated the UN, The WHO, the WEF and hundereds of organisations worldwide. The revolution comes closer...and guess what will happen with "liberals" after it? Yeah, you will go to the gulags too. A communist regime doesn't like people who demand freedom and personal rights. The people you are supporting now will put you on the wall when they get the power.
I hope you understand politics now.

>>542107529
>Singapore doesn't tax the working class, they have a $300bn sovereign wealth fund that funds their entire bureaucracy and administration. Literal collective ownership over the means of production
Socialists want to tax the rich, not eliminate working class taxes. You don't even know what you are arguing anymore.

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>>542099770
We’re still doing the deus vult larp?

>>542107618
You don't know what socialism is.

If you really let us socialists carry out our agenda, long term we could lower taxes on the rich. Because if we were able to temporarily raise taxes on the rich, pay down the FUCKING DEBT, build a SWF and fund government that way, you wouldn't even need taxes.

UAE and Singapore have almost no taxes they have collective ownership over production.

>>542107529
1910 was the gilded age. 70% lower class, 25% middle class, 5% upper class.
1950s was the golden age. 30% lower class, 60% middle class, 10% upper class.
1990. 30% lower class, 55% middle class, 15% upper class.
2025. 45% lower class, 25% middle class, 30% upper class.
If you really want to be technical the upper class has grown but if you look into who makes up the upper class a lot of them are boomers who are intent to blow their wealth trying to live longer. If I knew you in real life I would make you a bet for any amount of money that 2040 will be 60% lower, 30% middle, 10% upper or around those percentages. A return to the pre 1910s is going to be what happens.
No amount of "you have no evidence of this" will change my points. You either tax the rich or serve the rich.

>>542107960
>You don't know what socialism is.
Back to this ID.....
Why didn't you respond to this: >>542107018
Why stop?
>If you really let us socialists carry out our agenda, long term we could lower taxes on the rich.
So long terms the rich will be taxed lower but all socialists are campaigning on "tax the rich". You are legit insane. I feel sorry for you.

>>542108056
>Tax the rich
>Pay off debt
>Don't need to tax the rich anymore

Is this that complicated? did you ever graduate school?

>>542108034
Gilded literally means "Golden". this just proves golden age was when rich were taxed less.

Also, this is totally irrelevant in every single way. I am not interested at all in what the taxes rates were over A HUNDRED YERAS AGO.

>>542108315
>>Tax the rich
>>Pay off debt
>>Don't need to tax the rich anymore
>Is this that complicated? did you ever graduate school?
So why don't DSA campaign on "TEMPORARY tax increases for the rich". You are the only one saying this lying nonsense about the taxes being removed once debt is paid off.
Again, you jst keep running away from arguments: >>542107018

>>542108315
>>Don't need to tax the rich anymore
There are socialists in America right now at DSA meetings that want mask mandates back even though Covid ended 4 years ago. You really think they will just end the taxes for the rich once the debt is paid off?

>>542099689
No instead you stuck your head in the sand and accepted dependancy on islamic loonies as they tacitly established control of the strait, which is what enabled them to block it in the first place.

Islamic loonies that literally have not stopped chanting "Death to America" for over half a century so it's not like you could not have seen it coming.
Then added into the mix is their quest for a nuclear weapon, their longsstanding support for terrorism and terrorist groups and the fact that they literally shot first in every case; preceding the previous 12 day war there was an exhange of barrages with Israel that Iran initiated.
Added to that of course is the fact that all their procxies initiated hostilities as well (7 oktober obviously, but similarly Hezbollah and the Houthis used Gaza as a pretext to initiate hostilities aswell, the latter notably blocking traffic in the far more important Suez Canal).

In short: You fucked up greatly on Iran and Trump is cleaning up your mess.

>>542108472
I like to think so that’s what they told me

I voted for Mamdani mainly because he wanted to build more shit and get more cranes in the air. I want to build more apartment buildings

Trump fucked everything up
Even biden couldnt reverse trumps 1st term completly(becuase there was some good shit the democrat oligarchs loved that trump did)
His second term is scorched earth. America will ;ever get its democracy back and people will be jaded and disillusioned just like all the underlings in russia serving their oligarchs.

>>542109902
>I like to think so that’s what they told me
Another 25 minute reply just for this.
>I voted for Mamdani mainly because he wanted to build more shit and get more cranes in the air.
You said you campaigned for him because you wanted no more aryan candidates.....but the NYC mayor was a black democrat......
>I want to build more apartment buildings
NYC red taping and zoning laws make this impossible. Mamdani has done nothing and never said he would remove this red tape.

>>542099689
>>542100201
>>542101069
>Came here to have a reasonable discussion.
You already failed miserably. GFY commie cum-guzzler.

>>542099689
I remember when I was young and dumb and hated Israel, it made me a Bernie Sanders supporter. then i realized that the entire left was getting taken over by anti-white, anti-American, pro-sharia law and pro-crime assholes that know nothing about how the real world works. Now I'm fully a republican so I can have white children without worrying about them getting raped by muslims or killed by africans.

>>542111066
>Now I'm fully a republican so I can have white children without worrying about them getting raped by muslims or killed by africans.
Don't move to red Texas.

>>542106823
It isn’t puritan at all, it actually is a lot like the gay stuff come to think of it.
I don’t care if you, personally, kill yourself with whatever drug, but normalization is just a huge issue. Same with being a fag. Keep it in the closet and you’re fine, but normalizing it IS the problem.

I don’t know what your issue is personally, but gambling, whoring, and sedating is really gay and retarded bro

>>542110606
No I said I’m not just going to vote for someone because they’re Aryan. Why wouldn’t I vote for mandamus when he has the good policies? Just because he’s not white?

Mandanis whole plan was to get rid of red tape that’s why he ran.

>>542108315
Gilded is a thin layer of gold on top of something of lesser value. Aka a large lower class with a small upper class. Or Trump's interior design strategy. Gilded does not literally mean golden. You can have a gilded piece of dogshit or a solid gold piece of dogshit. They are not of the same value.

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>>542107561
Everything libs need to know.
But they will never understand.

Or how Yuri Bezmenov said it: "when a military boot crushes their balls, then they will understand, but not before..."

>>542111579
>No I said I’m not just going to vote for someone because they’re Aryan.
YOU >>542106117
> You admitted to campaigning for Mamdami you retard
>Yeah because I’m not a racist who thinks only Aryans should be holding office
So you helped a commie defeat a black democrat and you are saying you aren't a commie....SAD
> Why wouldn’t I vote for mandamus when he has the good policies?
He has commie policies and you are a commie for voting for him
>Mandanis whole plan was to get rid of red tape that’s why he ran.
So far he has done barely anything to accomplish this. It's status quo with some minor window dressing. Same with free busses.
You lost every argument so badly that you are just ignoring the ones you lost.

>>542111898
The reason people were poorer in the gilded age was because we weren't at the same level of capital stock development and technological development. We were growing rapdily in that time and real wages were increasing.

The gilded age had very good policy, we were just at a lower stage in economic development. If we maintained those policies into the 20th century we'd be better off.

>>542111950
Holy fuck are you stupid?

I have nothing against Aryans being in office, I said I won't vote for someone EXCLUSIVELY because they're an Aryan.

Mamdani had objectively better policies, so the only reason not to vote for him would be if you're a racist.

>>542112167
>Holy fuck are you stupid?
Saar
>I have nothing against Aryans being in office, I said I won't vote for someone EXCLUSIVELY because they're an Aryan.
You said you weren't a commie but you voted for and campaigned for a commie against a black democrat. SAD
>Mamdani had objectively better policies, so the only reason not to vote for him would be if you're a racist.
Free busses, money for trans shit, and commie nonsense aren't good policies. Nor are gov't run grocery stores. You lost.

>>542111950
I cooked you in every argument and i was hardly trying, plus I worked out in this time.

How does that feel? That's why my IP changed, I went to the gym

>>542112282
Crashing out because you got obliterated while I was doing pullups LMAO

>>542112314
>I cooked you in every argument and i was hardly trying, plus I worked out in this time.
Then why did you just stop replying to some posts?
>That's why my IP changed, I went to the gym
Sure thing, saar.

>>542112347
>Crashing out because you got obliterated while I was doing pullups LMAO
Oh boy
>"le crashing out"
>"i'm working out saar"
>offering no counterarguments
You lost. It's over.

>>542101545
If the Gulf of Tonkin incident was enough to justify war with the North Vietnamese, was the USS Liberty enough to justify bombing Jerusalem? Why are we allies with Israel?

>>542112572
According to the Canadian commie you should trust the government and not be a conspiracy nut.
>"The USS Liberty was an accident, chud! So what if the Israeli's made multiple bombing runs on an American shit with an American flag waving on it".

>>542112655
He's not even a real Democrat. I am an actual lefty, raised and living in a very fucking blue city in western Washington (not Seattle though). I can ask anyone I meet on the street if they think the Vietnam war was justified and get an instant fucking no.

>>542112866
He thinks Vietnam and Afghanistan were not only justified, but worth the loss of American lives.

>>542112128
Well if you can explain to me how the median worker in America can build enough capital to live off their assets instead of their labor then I will agree that taxing the rich at an extreme rate is wrong.
I personally am well above the median worker income but I still remember living in poverty growing up and how dreadful my life was. And my desire is to end that misery.
If you cannot explain the route to enable that to happen then I have no choice but to want to increase tax on the rich, on corporations and on assets in general. At the minimum and I think you will agree with me the loopholes of taking a loan out against your wealth at 0% tax rate should be taxed heavily.

>>542112904
Man I skimmed the thread a bit. He's justifying Afghanistan too? Fucking idiot. That shit was started by Bush. He doesn't even have to defend it... oh wait, Obama decided to stick around after whacking Bin Laden (who was in Pakistan anyways), and retard thinks he can't do wrong.

My dude, if you want to be on the lefty side of the Dems, it's absolutely okay to trash the neolibs when they fuck up, which is often.

>>542099689
Obama is a zionist, and Mamdani visited the rebbe's grave. Why would I join a party that sanctions that?

>>542099689
There is nothing reasonable about mass immigration unless you are a billionaire or landlord.

>>542100201
Your constituents are very much not against that.
You represent them.
You are disengenuous to us now or as a representative to those you are loyal to.

>>542113345
>Man I skimmed the thread a bit. He's justifying Afghanistan too? Fucking idiot
Who? You mean OP?

>>542110884
I like that everyone is using cumguzzler now.
That was my groups go -to term in 2004, middleschool

>>542112347
Oof
You reek of reddit and gayness.
You never knew /pol
Depart from me

Say it with me, OP. If you can't, you're an establishment shill who's hiding behind Mamdani to try and appeal to the masses.

FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA
PALESTINE SHALL BE FREE

>>542113755
>Who? You mean OP?
Yes

>>542114093
Then you know what hides behind that memeflag. It doesn't matter if they present themselves as MAGA in 2016 or Democrat in 2026

>>542114585
OP took off his memeflag and admitted to being a Pakistani born and raised in Canada.

>>542099689
You’re not 19
You’re not American even
You’re a lonely 45 year old man who is obese and posting from an apartment building in the outskirts of gurajat, and your parents are very disappointed in you for being unemployed and unmarried

>>542099689
>I’m a big fan of politicians who were in office before I was born

>>542112347
why are you trolling, anon

>>542113774
Well, if the shoe fits...

>>542099689
Memeflag = Israeli posing.

>>542099689
What's the largest thing a nigger has stuck in your ass?

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>>542099689
>Speak to a 19 Year old Democrat who Campaigned for Mamdani
>See pic of me campaigning in the city

>>542105233
>DSA is 99% astroturfed from the river to the sea
nothing I didn't already know but holy fucking kek, you can't make this shit up

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>>542099689
All feet are the same.

>>542105870
>It saved Asia and the world from the virus of totalitarian communism
You realise the North invaded and unified the country less than two years after the US pulled out? And what do you mean "Asia" when China was also communist

Are you a fag, a tranny... or both?