I don’t disagree with the idea that an ethnic mob of Jews controls things and has its tentacles deep in finance but Nazis make several major blunders in their analysis 1. That Jewish mobsters consider other Jews sacred above all other interests. Roy Cohn was willing to advocate for Jewish deaths. It’s like saying the Sicilian mob views Sicilian lives as sacred, they have no problem killing Sicilians. The Sicilian mob would kill ten random innocent Sicilians (as long as they were not a part of said mob) for Meyer Lansky’s sake simply due to business interests2. The idea that greed and tyranny are some sort of unique characteristics of Jews when we can see among capitalist goyim these characteristics are quite common and always have been. You can’t fix the elite wanting to tyrannize and exploit and rip off the lower class by taking Jews out of the equation, the happy merchant can be Venetian or English as easily as he can be Jewish3. The CIA we know it today was built with heavy collaboration with Nazis, from Operation Gladio to MK Ultra, Nazis were seen as ideal anti communist warriors. I have zero doubt that if Hitler could have changed his identity and started working for the CIA’s anti communist as an option, he would have chose that over suicide.
>>542104838Shut up jew
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>>5421048381. not everything is literal, its too a degree. jews have insane in group preference especially in a world were thats punished for whites2. agree, its just a easy way to discrimnate against them but can be said about any group3. your not really saying anything here thats against nazism, agree
The problem with nazism is they said they were a master race starting a 10,000 year reich and they fucking lost.Once an ideology's predictive power is proven to be fake and gay you can just toss it into the dustbin of history. So far liberalism and capitalism are the only ones that haven't failed. Granted, liberals don't make sweeping predictions about things just things like "increased women's rights leads to a more prosperous society" etc. It's why I always fucking laugh at communists telling me capitalism will explode in two weeks or who STILL believe the tendency of the rate of profit to fall despite the opposite happening since the day Marx wrote and he was thinking "Yeah that'll happen any day now bro!"Fukuyama is a great writer. When he says "end of history" he doesn't mean shit stops happening he just means that liberalism beat out the other triumphal ideologies but he predicted liberalism would be too successful leading to boredom leading to people falling for heroic populism and wow he was spot on...
>>5421057021. The in-group preference is the same as all organized crime and gangs, it’s just the Jewish elite mob is the most powerful and embedded mob in American history.3. Nazism saw Jews as the biggest threat against capitalism and mobilized against them using the same logic in America of Islamic communism (and btw in America Muslims do have a highly disproportionate representation among socialist movements for their size for similar reasons). Nazism today cannot functionally be anti-Jewish because Jews are no longer the minority closely associated with communism. In fact the leader of the biggest National Socialist movement in America today is Jake Lang, who is Jewish, and while he is very much against Israel and “Jewish influence”, his actual Nazi rallies are always directed against Muslims
>>542105904The problem is trying to graft human aesthetics onto Darwinism. Cockroaches and ticks are, from an evolutionary standpoint, more effective species than lions, tigers and perhaps even humans. “Survival of the fittest” doesn’t yield Hercules and never has.
Your understanding seems a bit incomplete. Continue reading.
>>542104838Yeah they were a scapegoat because bad eggs spoil the bunch. Works in any group based conflict there's always a justification.Its why I tend to not really care about the system of government advocated for - its the unique people involved in that system. You can have good authoritarian and horrible democracy. But whenever a good thing gets going there's always something to ruin it
>>542106639You obviously want a system in which good governance leads to maximum good and bad governance leads to minimum bad. A resilient system that can accommodate failures and take advantage of successes
>>542106759But the problem is what LoGH argues - you need centralized power for maximum scope, and in a system where that seat is up for grabs that same machine can do maximum good or maximum bad(and usually it will think its doing maximum good because it will be acting on its values which it wont think are bad)Democracy and inefficiency are in some senses a safeguard against maximum bad at the cost of not being maximum good
>>5421064181 Yea i want that for whites3. Again ur not saying anything, explain what you mean
>>542104838>That Jewish mobsters consider other Jews sacred above all other interestsYou're right, they underestimated how evil the Jews are. Jews will happily kill their own for their own greed. It doesn't make them less dangerous, it makes them less predictable.>The idea that greed and tyranny are some sort of unique characteristics of JewsAh but nobody does greed like a Jew, and for the same reason anything outside the Overton window is seen as extreme, there's a normative level of greed and there's Jewish greed. One is problematic the other literally destroys countries. They're comparable only if you ignore severity.>3. The CIA we know it today was built with heavy collaboration with NazisBecause the CIA knew if they couldn't get the Jewish threat under control they would no longer control the planet. They failed and now the Jewish infestation spreads
>>542107024Centralized power is highly inefficient. Highly. It is a sacrifice of efficiency for very selective short-term efficacy to deal with a major threat, it users laser focus at the expense of things outside its immediate anxieties.
>>542107238>nobody does greed like a JewIt is a huge part of their culture to the point that Karl Marx said money is the primary religious value in Judaism, but there is an absolute abundance of Harry Limes and always have been. It’s like saying no can do any other of the seven deadly sins like a Jew, it’s just not true.
>>542107238>the CIA knew if they couldn't get the Jewish threat under control they would no longer control the planet. The CIA was in bed with the Jewish mob to fight Castro. You think the CIA hated guys like Roy Cohn? Jewish refugees from the USSR were extremely pro CIA. George Soros said living under the USSR was the worse period of his whole life, and living under the Nazis was the happiest period of his life
>>542107355Could you give me a historical example? China is a centralized power, and one commonly given benefit of China is that if there is a student with high aptitude in STEM even in bumfuck nowhere - that student will be found and given a high quality educational opportunity. Although "opportunity" implies a choice
>>542107506You're comparing statistical outliers with an entire belief system that encourages parasitic consumption and hoarding of all wealth and prosperity from others. It is a collective motive to be an anchor on the race that makes the Jew problematic
>>542107657China is centralized but ever since they no longer felt that America would invade or nuke them at any moment, they gave up a lot of their centralization. The communist party in China is massive, it’s 101 million people and heavily spread out, and Xi has explicitly pushed policies for its make up to come increasingly from the working class. China is more centralized in state matters than America but you are also failing to account for privatized centralization which is ENORMOUS in America.
>>542107747Capitalism qua belief system encourages that, which is why Marx said it is secularized Judaism
>>542107592Ok? What the CIA was and what the CIA did are relics of the past now that they answer to Israel. What does that have to do with Nazism?
>>542104838Hitler escape to Argentina sorry jew rat
>>542107909Israel is the forefront of developing new technology for surveillance and control and targeted killing, the CIA is in bed with them because they want to make America just like them with a privileged people systematically taking away the homes of everyone else who are constantly subject to police aggression and 24/7 surveillance and restrictions on travel
>>542108121Correct.Nazism was right to try and end the Jew
>>542108226Nazism wanted the exact same system and Nazi Lebensraum is exactly how Israel works.
>>5421048381. never heard anyone make that argument other than you 2. same as 1. 3. Why is this a problem of nazism? you are using kike words along with a slight support of communism and a jacketing of capitalism. kikes run both sides, as above so below.
>>542108341And without the Jew it would have been substantially longer before it imploded.
>>5421084483. Because Judeo-Nazism is the ideology of the ruling class
>>542104838>Jewish mobsters consider other Jews sacred above all other interests.The Nazis had a huge number of jews and cryptojews within their ranks, you retard> the happy merchant can be Venetian or English aExcept when they were, like the Medicias and the Fuggers,, our people generally thrived, they supported the arts and sciences and created beautiful citiesMeanwhile all the Rothschilds brought us: a rabbit-like ashkenazi infestation and two world wars> The CIA we know it today was built with heavy collaboration with Nazis, Complete inversion of what happened. CIA and MKUltra originated with jewish death squads, like the Ritchie Boys and the 'rough boys', torturing Nazis at Camp King
>>542108532Wrong because killing Jewish capitalists and taking their money was essential Nazi income to fund their war effort and also to give to goy capitalists in exchange for support
>>542104838what are the chances of ethnonationalism to make a comeback?only gooks have it now
>>542108593“People generally thrived because I see paintings [Hollywood] of the richest 0.001% of the population”Working class people did not “thrive”, guilds locked out membership of anyone who wasn’t connected by family and people could only do work by giving most of the money to a guild when a guild signed off on it because it was illegal to work without guild permission. Regular people lived in poverty and died of illness because they couldn’t afford sanitation Yes if we look at nice neighborhoods today and very wealthy people we can say we are all “thriving” but that is hardly the case
>>542108804China is not ethnonationalist at all, they have a ton of ethnicities and languages and when they had their one child policy they applied it exclusively to the Han, giving exemption to minorities like Uyghurs and Tibetans because they said applying the policy to minorities would be ethnic cleansing and racist colonialism
>>542108642>Jews stole so much money they could fund an entire war against most of the planet by taking it back from themGee I wonder why they felt the need to deal with the longbeak problem
>>542108894Nazis had to steal from a lot of people, not just Jews. They robbed and pillaged everywhere they went including art and leveled historic districts like in Rotterdam
>>542108891>China is not ethnonationalistof course it is, China is a truly united Europe. their ethnic differences are basically the difference from a Frenchman to a Germ, both are Aryan in the end
>>542108578>class its just judaism anon, the destruction of edom and amalek is the core of what has been happening since the 60s. National Socialism is the polar opposite of judaism. Communism/marxism/bolshevism is judaism.
>>542109056No mercy for collaboratorsI hope electric boogaloo part three is that based
>>542108810No you retard, Florence under the Medici and the HRE under the Fuggers was where an actual middle class first emerged in European historyYou are a certified moran, and your thread is shit
>>542109143No their ethnic differences are not basically that, they have regions of people that look totally different with massively different cultures >>542109167The patricians in Rome made their fortune and power by lending at interest to the plebs and confiscating their land and persons when they missed a payment. Were Roman patricians followers of Judaism?
>>542109193Zionist retard logic. “I’m going to massacre and plunder civilians and destroy ancient architecture because they’re collaborators o algo against…not being invaded and occupied by a foreign country”
>40 replies>19 by OPok schizo
>>542109217You seem to be confusing middle class with the idea of a “median class”. Middle class meant affluent but not of aristocratic blood, it sure as shit did not mean media wealth, the middle class, the bourgeoisie, were a fraction of the population. They were called middle because they were extremely wealthy and influential unlike commoners but also not nobility, so places between regular people and nobility in terms of prestige
>>542109379>they have regions of people that look totally different with massively different cultures>Chinaso does Europe, a Bavarian is completely different from a Galician despite being both Aryan, hell even Finns could join the party despite being mongols..>modern China is what Europe could've been had the NSDAP won the crusade against jewry. United, truly united, one people, the Aryan people
>>542109642Are you seriously suggests Muslim Turkic people and atheist Han are no more different than Bavarians and French are?
>>542107859So its the capitalists gangstalking folk? Not terribly fond of the working class because they tend to haze excessively, but maybe they were plants.
>>542109969Galicia is in Spain btwand yes they are pretty close. close enough to be in the same union, just like Finns would fit in had the NSDAP won
>>542110320I don’t even know what that means, all I am saying is that centralized privatization is still centralization and when you take that into account, China is no more centralized than America is and in some ways it is less centralized >>542110369Spanish nationalism historically involved marginalization of any diversity in Spain including linguistic and cultural
>>542110626that is my point. had the NSDAP won the war on jewry, there would be a single party European Union today. differences would have to be managed somehow, Hitler would probably tone down his autistic Race Purity thing like what China is.
>>542104838It's true from the bigger picture perspective. This is why I denounce abraham and everything downstream including judaism and all sects, christianity and all sects, islam and all sects and satanism if any and every form.Estonia for example has a massive satanism problem. Everyone tries to get their piece of the pie and if it means pissing on it they'll do it. All my life I've had to deal with greedy, lazy faggots with blue eyes and blond hair.We are societal creatures. We can agree not to steal nor kill nor scam without requiring a pedo on drugs telling what caste may break the rules and what may not. We can do it because we're intelligent. That is the social contract.Maybe i'm a retard romantic.
>>542104838>Roy Cohn was willing to advocate for Jewish deathsThe ADL supported executing the Rosenbergs too. It was tactical, and a warning, that Communism was no longer the jewish program.Your worldview collapses right there.
>>542104838True National Socialism is just Nordicism. Which is the truth.
>>542109471Honestly it's refreshing to see an OP that actually interacts with the thread they've created.OP is a communist trying to weasel their ideology onto people. Just come clean OP; you're a communist trying to argue for communist/Socialist ideology. If I had to guess I'd say you are also Muslim or Muslim adjacent too.
>>542111068Communism was never “da Jewish program”, the Bolsheviks expropriated extensively from wealthy Jews which is what outraged Ayn Rand. Communism was never ever supported by the Jewish mob. Plenty of Jews gravitated to it for various reasons but apart from completely made up statistics by the Nazis there was no prevailing Jewish control in communism anymore than Muslims control communism today despite being commonly represented in it for similar reasons. Even Karl Marx’s parents both strongly disapproved of his politics
>>542105422shut up jew
>>542111372>there was no prevailing Jewish control in communismOof. From the way you spoke I had assumed you studied at least some of the history of communism. Nearly every founding figure in communism was jewish. You're a communist yourself so I thought you'd know that. That doesn't invalidate communist theories by any means but it's just dishonest to say it wasn't primarily jewish.
>>542104838thats accureate but describes only that was happening in the last century gladio and mkultra are 30 something year old national crime corporation, mob rule, legitimation of said mob activity are 100+ years old
>>542110981Managing differences in nationalism comes down to killing people who persist in them. Nationalism falters when this becomes unsustainable
>>542111209I am a communist, not sure where I ever pretended otherwise. Or why I would pretend otherwise since being an anti-Nazi communist on /pol/ is not considered any more odious than being an anti-Nazi from any other ideology
>>542111634Rather than communism in general, let us reduce it to just Marxist CommunismEngels was not JewishKautsky (who became the leading figure after Engels died until Lenin took that mantle) wasn’t JewishHo Chi Minh was not JewishCastro was not JewishChe wasn’t JewishMao was not JewishLenin was 1/4 Jewish but wasn’t considered by himself or the pre communist government or other Jews to be JewishStalin wasn’t Jewish
>>5421048381. Actually a good take that most Jews don't give a shit about lower rung Jews ultimately and use the holocaust as a scape goat. But reality is Hitler did give Jews a chance to convert away from Jewish ideals. 2. Greed and tyranny is very specifically a Jewish trait like schizophrenia. The problem is that goyim who are already greedy or have delusions are amplified by jews ten fold for their own agenda. 3. The CIA as we know it had Nazis as a minority within it even when it first became a thing. Originally the OSS. It's a shithole and shitty garbage glownigger organization like the KGB that serves itself mostly. Hitler wouldn't of remotely joined them. Hell Churchill hated communism and hated Stalin, but he had no choice but to join the soviets to win the war. So I severely doubt Hitler would side up with the CIA. Interesting fanfic though.
>>542112358>Greed and tyranny is very specifically a Jewish traitSo you think the Roman patricians who made their fortune by lending money at interest to the plebs and taking their land and persons from them if they missed a payment, were followers of Judaism?Furthermore do you think that all the schizophrenics you see on the street are Jews?
>>542112358>Hell Churchill hated communism and hated Stalin, but he had no choice but to join the soviets to win the war.May I remind you that Hitler also joined with the Soviets in the invasion of Poland?
>>542104838>communist jew seething about Nazis you sound scared
>>542112066>Managing differences in nationalism comes down to killing peopleI disagree nationalism is a mighty force, even today.. look at a map, what do you see? Nation States, the basis of nationalism. and you don't see much ethnic cleansings happening, just in pissrael with the Palestinians therefore nationalism doesn't need killings
>>542112874I see states but precious few real nation states
>>542109521Nope. I mean middle class, as in moderately well off urban populationsDo go on, it's always funny when a low info dimwit puts words in my mouth
>>542104838>1. That Jewish mobsters consider other Jews sacred above all other interests.nonsense. organized crime in America began with jews preying on other jews >2. The idea that greed and tyranny are some sort of unique characteristics of Jews when we can see among capitalist goyim these characteristics are quite common and always have been. it is just human nature to want more than you have but the jews dial it up to 11. state controlled price caps on commerce would solve this problem.>3. The CIA we know it today was built with heavy collaboration with Nazis, from Operation Gladio to MK Ultra, Nazis were seen as ideal anti communist warriors. I have zero doubt that if Hitler could have changed his identity and started working for the CIA’s anti communist as an option, he would have chose that over suicide.and it would've been cool if the CIA under Hitler's influence overthrew the US government, established national socialism in the US, and ausrottened the jews.one can only dream.
>>542113919>organized crime in America began with jewsOrganized crime in America began with highway men, pirates and smugglers>established national socialism in the USNational socialism is about protecting capitalism from socialism so they kind of did establish the most important part. Maybe you mean end immigration? But America has always had massive immigration, when they couldn’t find poor immigrants they literally brought over slave labor. Slave labor only stopped because they could finally get enough poor immigrants.
>>542114435i was referring to mafia type crime - the jews originated the daily shop shakedowns and "fire insurance" scams. when they founded Hollywood they transferred this onto the dagos (who were doing the same shit to their fellow dagos) in a propaganda blitz to diminish the jews involvement in the same exact misbehavior.no i didn't mean end immigration. I would welcome western europeans with open arms.Hitler's labor reforms were way ahead of their time compared to the rest of the world. had the USA adopted national socialism in the mid 40s instead of going along with jew capitalism we'd be an actual powerhouse today instead of a paper tiger that's about to go up in flames
>>542104838This thread, the “stop hating lindsey” threads, all of them are so fucking obvious. Tranny freak
>>542104838They are already aware of all 3 of these points.This reads like a 14 year old just getting into politics thinking he's onto something but it has already be discussed to death decades before he was even a sperm in his father's balls.What a waste of a thread.
>>542104838They had too many contradictions.Why the fuck was Mischling status even considered?
>>542115085I am positive collecting protection money was common in urban gangs in America very early on, I really doubt Jews invented organized extortion rackets in America. Hollywood didn’t make any movies about Jewish organized crime (Once Upon a Time in America is not really a Hollywood film) because the Jewish mob refused to allow it. The Italian mob could have also blocked films about them but they allowed them on condition they got kickbacks, the Godfather gained their permission but they demanded the cast be entirely Italian (unless a character wasn’t Italian) and the director be an Italian. Coppola got the job because Leone turned it down and was more interested in doing a movie about the Jewish mob
