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>>542105152we have to open shorts on TSLA
>>542105152>Nooooooooo you're not allowed to praise genuine innovation and competition
>>542105152China doesnt subsidizes BYDs you stupid niggers.Susidizing an export would be just directly gifting money to americans. BYD is even cheaper in China and they profit
>>542105152>the American gaberment doesn't subsidize their oligarchs (between the bail-outs) with trillions of dollars.big if true
>>542105393In late 2010s a whole bunch of EV makers in China died due to brutal competition and innovation, BYD and Cherry are just the top rats that remained, UNLIKE European car brands protected by state committees and Eurocrats, Stellantis is the perfect example of the state protecting a garbage marquee
>>542105152Based, I’m not going to spend money on fixing the transmission on my shitbox Hyundai and will buy a new BYD when they open their dealerships in Canada this fall.
>>542105152still never buying chinkslop
>>542105152Op is scared of the truth… I’m gen x and remember the absolute shit talk Honda got from USA boomers.
>>542105581no goy is THAT good.show nose
>>542105152You don't think that China protects it's own businesses as well?
>>542105152I want one.
>>542105152It'd be cool if at least one of these companies could make a car for those of us in the salt belt that doesn't turn into a rusted out pile of shit in ten years. Can I get that as a feature instead of bullshit please?
>>542105721China protects their business by not letting parasites stagnate them
>>542105279>china>genuine innovation and fair competitionKys disgusting jeet
>>542105152He's a disgusting Capitalist homosexual. under Communism Homosexuality is considered a Bourgeois illness that must be cured.
>>542105393>china would never subsidize exports!Yeah they didnt subsidize steel when they dumped on american markets under market price. You retards were born yesterday.
>>542106002Kys >>542105535
>>542105152Why does everything he does backfire so bad?
>>542105245Every car company desu. BYD has mogged Europe after being allowed in. I work at a large vehicle part manufacturer in an IT role so I can change companies easily but internally between tariffs, inflation and BYD the 5 year forecast is not looking too good. Tariffs are short term whatever, just hold out long enough for the tariffs to be deemed illegal in court and get a refund because we track the cost. Inflation is kind of bad because price of new cars getting too high. But BYD would kneecap the industry when normies question why buy a 4 year used car for 40k when a brand new BYD car cost 35k.
>>542105535Saar when do we get EV innovation from India? Always wanted to have my own poopmobile so I don't pay the gas jew.
>>542106185Brand new BYD costs 23k dollars here lol, why would I buy anything else? Older cars make sense if you pay 3-7k dollars and not more.
Thinking the Chinese would be impressed or intimidated by Bessent is like an Indian thinking his caste status impresses people in Minnesota. Don't you have someone serious.
>>542106270Well, there's Ola, Ather and Ultraviolette but they're all in two wheelers, Mahindra is currently leading indigenous EV space, Hero is a legacy two wheeler manufacturer who's showing initiative partnering with Zero
>>542105152their midsize sedan is $15,000their SUV is $18,000$35,000 is their 'luxury' model carthey are the global leader in EV's now, selling more than Tesla annually
>>542106270this one is very popular as far as ev suv's go in indiamahindra BE
>>542106270this is the cheapest
>>542106351I am curious how their manufacturing model works. I assume it is heavily automated as maintaining that price either means chinks are heavily subsidizing BYD to build completely market control before increasing prices or because it is so automated. Manufacturing in America at least is probably 10-15 years behind chinks in this category.
>>542106270and this is becoming more popular among the higher end crowd
>>542106002>noooo markets are sacred we must all participate in market economy fairly and honestly>anyway i need to get back to weaponizing the market against anyone i don't like
>>542106755Eh Tata is borderline scamming us with their dated platforms, swapping ICE for Battery pack does not EV make
>>542105152>ev>touchscreen for everythingit's shit
>>542105152I hear they blow up
>>542106641>Off road looking fastbackMy kind of car.
>>542107136So do tesla lol
>>542105279he's right. capitalism fears actual capitalism. almost as if it's a farce
>>542105152too bad no one can buy them in the USA kek
>>542107369yeah Tesla's gay too
>>542107136That's a feature of every EV.The difference is China's EV's don't lock the doors when it bursts into flames like western.
>>542106781From the consumer side I just wonder how long they last. All BYDs are brand new now but if a good portion crap out within a year or 2, there goes all your value.
>>542105152>I posted it again!What do you hope to accomplish by astroturfing this opinion?
>>542106626yup
>>542107584Why doesn't China set up a dealership network? Nobody's ordering a temu car over the Internet that you can't even get serviced.All China has to do is get the car safety tested, create a dealership network or partner with some other automaker, and start selling the cars. Why don't they do this?It's the same reason why they don't sell the flying car, the Chinese RAM or GPU, and the Chinese sex dolls. Because like these cars, they either don't exist at all or are made in such limited numbers that they can't be exported.
>>542105152If I currently avoid Chinese parts on my car now why would I buy one that is made entirely from those shit parts.
I don't trust Chinese owned/produced phone chargers, you expect me to trust a fucking car? And the EV market is dead.
>>542107875As long as you can purchase replacement batteries at a reasonable price then it will be fine. ICE vehicles lose 20% of the value in the first year. More expensive ones lose even more. EV all are in the battery life and replacement cost. If batteries only last 4 years but cost $500 to replace then I might have to buy one due to how much cheaper it would be. A 6 year used EV is nearly worthless with US market. Battery cost, new batteries increased ranges, etc. If you can get a cheaper vehicle overall then this issue isn't nearly as bad. Especially if they create some program to scrap the old vehicles to reuse to make new but I don't think we are that resource starved yet.
>>542105152YELLOW PERIL FUCK CHYNA FUCK CHINKS
>>542112732Shit, where's you buy usa made chargers?
>>542106626>sellingThey don't sell shit. The only thing they sell is subsidies that the ccp buys.
>>542112321>It's the same reason why they don't sell the flying car, the Chinese RAM or GPU, and the Chinese sex dolls. Because like these cars, they either don't exist at all or are made in such limited numbers that they can't be exported.Yeah that is surely the reason. Fucking hell.
>>542105152>it's not fair china is putting 4% of its GDP towards industrial subsidies>no, we will not do something similarWhy is america run by gay retards?
>>542105152I like pre 1990 cars
>>542106882RWD is nice. I could be interested in electric car that has RWD and only thing electric would be like motor, battery and lights I mean computerless electric car.
>>542114940All new cars must report all movement to the government and insurance companies have eye trackers and heated seat subscriptions, so it will never happen. I'd buy an electric car like that too, but the best western markets can manage is a bicycle.
>>542113896>Shit, where's you buy usa made chargers?Hence why I said "Chinese owned/made". Apple is American owned and they enforce some standards at their Chinese production plants. The Chinese companies that make their own chargers are the ones you find at Dollar General that burn out in 3 weeks.