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What does a liberal solution to the masculinity crisis look like? As men fall behind in the American educational system and the economy, they’re looking for meaning — and often find it in the wrong places. My guest today is Scott Galloway, a professor at N.Y.U.’s Stern School of Business. Galloway is an unlikely masculinity guru — he’s a liberal academic, a business founder and a married father. He had a lot to say about the social and economic reasons young men seem to be struggling, but he’s still optimistic about the future.

00:00 - The Difference Between Weak and Strong Men
01:54 - How Big Tech Is Isolating Young Men
04:16 - Scott Galloway’s Upbringing and Success Story
08:24 - How the Education System Disadvantages Boys
11:51 - A Liberal Critique
13:49 - Today’s Economic Challenges
15:37 - The Problem The Far Right Saw First
17:28 - Policy Proposals: Redshirting, Mentorship & National Service
19:42 - Why Scott Galloway Doesn’t Believe In "Toxic Masculinity"
21:03 - The 3 P’s to Being a Good Man
22:27 - Why We Should Stop Demonizing Young Men’s Horniness
33:41 - The Alliance Between Men and Women
36:39 - Is the A.I. Era Good for Men?
39:23 - What Worries Scott Galloway, the Father
41:50 - What’s next for Interesting Times

Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com.

Read the full transcript here: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/06/op...

Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHsZKomGCEo
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Meaningless from literally the first line
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>>542128001
So the incel label stopped working and now it's asexual?
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>>542128001
buy an ad. big syrup is dead.
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>>542128001
>asexual
I resent this. I own five sex dolls.
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>National Service

Lol, this isn't a 'nation' anymore you fucking Boomer retards. It's too diverse for that.
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>>542130540
well, imagine if the state helped you gain the necessary skills and subsidized the material necessary for you to build your own house, with the intent that you and your cohort built a strong cohesive community with a good local economy?
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>>542130820
e.g. Dying for Israel while raising a zambo in a trailer.
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>>542130820
nahhhh... that money is better off used harvesting foreskins in Israel
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>>542128001
kek what a bunch of psycho drivel
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>>542128001
I wish the times actually stopped this low
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>>542130820
And what motivation does the modern American state have to do this, presuming it could even be done competently? If you're a white guy, the state still hates you.

It's kind of galling to watch these bald Boomers blather about this stuff while refusing to address the racial aspect.
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>America Abandoned Its 'Unremarkable' Young Men
Unremarkable is a synonym for loser. So if you instead reframe the headline as
>America Abandoned Its Loser Men
This immediately presents a problem, in that this was exactly the society that liberalism wanted to set up: an all against battle in the meritocratic universal marketplace that necessarily produces winners and losers. Thus the notion that society "abandoned" them is nonsensical, because as Thatcher pointed out, there is no such thing, and even if there was, it certainly wouldn't owe them anything such that it would be capable of "abandoning" them. Furthermore, the implicitly acknowledged set of "remarkable" men are doing just fine, demonstrating that the system as a whole is fair and not biased against men, that men of sufficient ability are perfectly capable of succeeding, and thus that these men are simply intrinsically unworthy. Thus everything that follows is inherently a condescendingly pitying diagnosis from one of the aforementioned meritocratic elect on how to compensate for the inherent unworthiness of the loser betas. Which effort, as the "The Problem The Far Right Saw First" subsection evidences, is really only coming from a lingering fear of essentially a beta uprising; all else being equal liberalism of course could care less about these people and in fact views their immiseration as good in that it's simply the free market asserting itself, but they're worried that they might try to overthrow bourgeois society at some point, so they have to throw them some DEI to appease them
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>>542128001
Its not asociality or asexuality, its just that in our times looks like there are no space to be a true man that is worth something. Or you become a stupid bitch boy, or you check out from society. And its "use it or lose it", after you check out a lot of things stop to matter to you and fade out gradually.
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>>542128001
>asexual
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the NYT might be the last place you wanna look for opinions or facts on these topics
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>>542131565
Problems with this mental diarhhea;
>1)Society is not meritocratic despite supposedly caring about those virtues, the social engineers use initiatives like DEI, Feminism etc. So it is actually nepotistic
>2) If society owes the men nothing the men owe society nothing
>3) Because a rigged game has winners does not imply some kind of balance or fairness - not even sure how your point follows logically at all it's just a blind assertion that isn't even true or cogent
>4) And this is just my opinion; no appeasement is coming for the disaffected and newly disenfranchized - "liberalism" like all critical theories requires an external or internal enemy to unite it's caucaus whose political interests are so obviously contradictory and divergent the whole thing collapses without an external object of ire - which currently and without a hint of irony are the men who run society itself and are the ones least likely to join hands with a hostile invader for temporary comfort; which "liberalism" relies on to persist
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>>542131862
That's a bot. This board is low key full on psychological warfare at this point. Think about it logically, what reason would anyone try to reframe the post like that, in such a tailored manner. The AI is getting advanced.
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>>542131862
Yes, I agree.
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>>542132025
>low key
Anon, I....
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What do his farts smell like OP?

It was only a matter of time before some yuppie burgiosie academic tried to co opt the manosphere.
A "business professor" at that. How blantantly Tate can you get?
Luke not a physical therapist, not some sports medicine dude.Not even a classics/trivium professor.
A business professor.
lol
Lmao
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>>542128001
Nah chief fuck dat
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>>542131832
I'm here for the job interview, why yes I do get along with everyone how could you tell? My preferred orifices?
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>>542128001
Socialism will give everyone, including below average males, housing and healthcare.
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>>542132493
Fuck yourself with a rake nigger
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>>542131862
There's no reasoning with this system. The jews will just cope and say "H-heh, well I was TRYING to ruin the civilization that I control!" when faced with their unfathomably terrible stewardship.
There is no fairness, there is no meritocracy, there is no brotherhood, there is no border, there is no family, there are no children, etc.
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>>542128001
feminist women are receiving the kind of men they requested. naturally, they are unhappy with their choice.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FgxacX72snA&pp=0gcJCRsMAYcqIYzv&ra=m
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>>542132691
Just do something that makes you happy
>Does everything in their power to make everything shit
Uh, well there's always babysitting women for a paycheck

Gee, thanks.
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>>542131467
>If you're a white guy, the state still hates you.
If whites were rounded up in high school and put to work volunteering in communities of color there'd be less asshole takes like yours
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>>542132781
>that travesty of a link
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FgxacX72snA
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Deprive women of rights and literally 99% of social problems go away overnight you can literally preserve almost everything else
Women are the property of their father then the property of their husband
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>>542132781
this guy has reposted his gay ass video on 4chan more times than it's actually been viewed lol
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>>542132799
Eh. If they were still kept in segregated communities it would make more sense. But the jews said they could compete, then put all their women on welfare, creating gang crime. Now they're social engineering the whole of society that same way. Realistically we're all going to be niggers, so let's not go there
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>>542132834
Da wimmenz da proper tea ov da streetz
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>>542128001
The only thing more cringe than a bunch of women telling me what a man is is a bunch of boomers who haven't worked a day of real labour in the shitty economy they created
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Liberals have no answer to the masculinity question, to a liberal being a man means being a door mat to women and people of color in the name of "equity", and suppressing your rage like a castrated queer.

Not that right wing has an answer either. right wing just a mirror image of feminist movement but male.

the real problem is because science and technology has liberated women from being housewives and capital encouraged it in order to gain a source of cheap labor.
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>>542133077
Well a masculine movement would absolutely crush the consensus. Which would be funny if only to watch them piss and moan
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>>542133240
The "masculine movement that crushes everything" is going to be wearing a turban
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>>542132799
>If whites were rounded up in high school and put to work volunteering in communities of color there'd be less asshole takes like yours
The program would just get cancelled from violence.
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>>542130540
This. I’d say for a good few places in the west the sense of society is gone, and only a concrete jungle remains. We now walk through the remnants of a bygone civilization.
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>>542133304
I don't know about you but muzzies are kind of fags
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>>542128001
long hypens… made by AI…

scott is just standard evil but ross is pure evil.
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>>542133480
500 bitches get raped in one night in Berlin, it ain't whites doing it
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>>542128001
it's that nyt troll that is too scared to interview nick fuentes even though he says he is catholic right winger lol.
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>>542130540
It's very telling that all these people who talk about how "lost" young men are, ignore the actual reasons, and go right into talking about dying for your country.

Never any talk about how social cohesion has been destroyed

Nothing about how feminism has destroyed a lot of interactions between men and women

Nothing about how governments seem to be for uplifting everyone EXCEPT straight white men, and this is ESPECIALLY true of Liberal governments.

>>542132799
I can't help but notice that you didn't call him wrong.
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>>542131467
>>542132799
When you have time.

Watch:
https://youtu.be/FIONXPbIkVo

And read: https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-racial-crossroads/
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>>542133525
Pussies that prey on women, my point exactly. Subhuman fodder
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>>542133525
>raping bitches be masculine
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>>542128001
>Galloway was born in San Diego[3] and grew up in Los Angeles, California.[4] His father was a Scottish immigrant to the United States who worked as a sales executive.[4] His mother, a Jewish immigrant from London, England, worked as a secretary.[4][5][6]

Following his graduation from the University of California, Los Angeles in 1987, Galloway worked as a fixed income analyst at Morgan Stanley.[7] He then went on to earn his MBA from the Haas School of Business at UC Berkeley, graduating in 1992.[7]

>jewish
>mba
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>>542133525
Well, no, because if whites did, they would all go to prison. Because non whites do it, they get a medal.

It's not that these browns are more masculine. It's that the government will go after you if you even suggest that these non whites shouldn't be here, while actively protecting the rapists from justice. We essentially live under a heavily corrupt government who hates us.
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>>542133618
>>542133571
>respecting women is the real masculinity
lmfao
now check out that Afghanistan has 6x the birthrate of any white country
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>>542128001
TLDR

Just remove your pinko commie thumbs from the scales and allow the cream to rise to the top and everything will naturally fall into place, faggots. No, dumb bitches and their "self-actualization" are not more important than a man being able to provide for a woman and her family. Because no matter how hard a woman bossgirls her way to the top of some fake corpo bullshit, she will continue to demand a "provider," even though she can more than adequately provide for herself. That's how her brain works. That's what makes her vagina muscle tick.
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>>542133571
Preying on women has nothing to do with being a pussy or more or less of a man, anon. You just come across like a foid or simp. If you want to make a moral complaint, do so.
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Anyway, after watching the whole thing, I get strong sense of subversion by the guest. He clearly wants men to become good goy cogs for the system in a more efficient way than is currently taking place.

However, this kind of confuses the problems here. It's true that a lot of men are demotivated, but forcing them into 'national service' won't do shit to solve any of that. It's also true that if men worked harder to become better workers and made more money and were generally fitter, some of them might have an easier time finding women or starting families.

However, that's broadly irrelevant, since 1. this has always been true, and 2. the percentage of men capable of enacting such changes (or willing to do so) appears to be relatively low, and is probably declining over time.

Trying to 'fix' a generalized lack of direction and motivation by yelling at people to try harder reminds me of the end of the Soviet era, when leaders didn't really know how to keep their system going, so they kind of just stopped trying.

The US seems to be reaching a similar impasse, and with a similar lack of solutions. The solutions attempted so far (such as mass-immigration) seem to be destabilizing the system over time rather than making it more robust.
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>>542133688
Retarded nigger. Muzzies are only in the west because of feminism and suck on feminist welfare tests. They'd dry up and blow away like the scrap they are if the spigot was turned off. They'd be unable to withstand a couple guys with bats
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>>542128001
buy an add you boomer fucking faggot
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>>542133675
It’s a common tactic.
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>>542133571
women are scum and rather fuck a nigger that will beat them and steal their shit than a SIMP white knight cuck like you.
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>>542133812
women love people who beat them
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>>542133867
You sound like a subhuman I could easily break with a bat, see? Real masculinity
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>>542133780
Meanwhile in reality muzzies kick in the teeth of "westerners" across the middle east with every western physical and financial weapon arrayed against them
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>>542134027
Yeah yeah. Maybe all the warriors died off or something, or were there any to begin with
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What if women just don't like me? I am 38 and have a decent job, decent salary and still a wizard. I should not have problems with women, right? Wrong. I also know unemployed dudes who have slept with a lot of women and women love them.
Some men, like me, no matter what they do, always end up alone.
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>>542128001
>00:00 - The Difference Between Weak and Strong Men
Let me guess, strong men do thing I want, weak men do thing I don't want, same shit as here, as everywhere else. Fuck off.
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>>542130540
Forced National service is gay.
Imagine sacrificing for a country that hates you.
And I say that as a retired zogbot
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>>542128001
>What does a liberal solution to the masculinity crisis look like?

If feminists want to survive, they need to 100% embrace the male gender role and date down. That means all those "manchildren" they complain about need to be turned into stay at home dads who take care of the kids. Only way feminism has for keeping their grip on society.

Will they? FUCK NO. Feminists are all about female power, they will never ever force fellow women to abandon hypergamy to ensure they stay in control. Very shortsighted shit. Rather they will make a police state, men will die off, and all of society will collapse and a brown patriarchy will take over as the slum lord.

There is ZERO reason to be optimistic about the future. He is never going to get his "Nazi" ideas accepted by women. Treating men as equals? FUCK NO they won't. Men aren't people to feminists and women. They are slaves to exploit. And they are winning, have been since 1919. Women have yet to lose a single battle against men since 1919. Not one loss.
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>>542134122
KEK true
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>>542131467
>what motivation does the modern American state have to do this
None yet but as things decay further the motivation will emerge.
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> Big strong men
I am not big and strong. So, I am not a man?
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>>542134070
All of the world wars (and the civil war prior) depleted America of it's actual men. The ones who would slap a bitch for being a bitch. It was a mass genocide of conservative men. End result was a majority weak men who allowed women the vote in 1919, and women proceeded to exterminate the remaining men themselves. Sent off to global conflicts no man had a stake in, had all the male only institutions deleted, and they declared his very sexuality to be toxic.

It is absolutely why any brown invader can push our shit in so easily. Patriarchy was good at ensuring strong and weak men got a fair shake and that shit was nuked. Now the few strong men have to shoulder all of society and weak men get shit, and that is quickly undermining everything. Sure the real men get tons of pussy, but all of the betas are checking out. And you need the betas to make shit and run shit.
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>>542134842
incelbrain
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>>542132799
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Oh you naive faggot, I GREW UP WITH NIGGERS. That's right faggot, I've lived in the big city with niggers, spics, faggots, and all you other leftist shitbags ruining things. I went to public school with niggers, was next to them in the Army, and even have them at work. I never had a shred of contact with skin heads or Nazis. Blacks themselves made me racist. And yes, I am aware of the cultural differences within black communities - Chris Rock's little speech is pretty much on the money.

All your little program would do is make 100% of whites racist by exposing them to the truth: that blacks are racist as fuck and all the stereotypes are fucking true. It would fail on you just as hard as the dare program did. Fucking retarded leftist.

>OH, lets expose people to niggers to make them less racist!
>WHAT! why is everyone racist now? How could that happen to me!?!

It's faggots like YOU who need to go play with niggers in the inner city and Africa. Learn the truth about your favorite little jewish pets.
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>>542134842
You know for pretty much every war america waged they ended up petitioning men from foreign lands and promising them parcels in america if they fought,killed and died for the united states of america.
Revolutionary war was germans ,poles and french
Civil war was irish
War on terror was mexican
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>>542135166
Couldn't argue it could you? The west is a society of weak simps, and it shows in everything, everyday. Simps supporting Vtubers, women cawing for mothers to be able to murder their kids, browns being let in to take over and ruin things. It would make every founder and builder of this nation weep to see the state of today. We ignored all of their warnings.
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>>542128001
>Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
This site has gone hella down the pooper. Take your propaganda elsewhere n'wah s'wit
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>>542130820
But the state didn't help me gain the necessary skills or subsidize the necessary material for me to build my own house, and never showed intent that myself or my cohort build a strong cohesive community with a good local economy. I don't understand the question.
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This is all planned to make people enlist btw to die for [redacted]
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Low rank male just means theyre still racist and sexist because they don't know that they're basically repressed trannies
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>>542132493
Prison provides food, housing, and healthcare, that doesn't make it fun, great, or good. Your little deal is a literal prison.
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>>542135601
Thats it. If you let people talk about pedophillia and other dumb shit they'll naturally ascend
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>>542132799
If whites were rounded up in high school and put to work volunteering in communities of color we'd have more police officers you dumb bint.
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>>542134242
Realistically women have no capacity to do what you're suggesting, as they just don't find such a man attractive and never will. Feminists do talk about what you're suggesting and letting the gender roles reverse, but women themselves just can't make it work in real life. It's unactionable.

I agree there's no reason to be optimistic. Women perceive the current system as "fair" and then demand that men somehow overcome it to get ahead of them to impose patriarchy in their own house. They won't accept that the system has to relent on men to survive, they feel that a real man would just overcome it anyway, and they won't like a man who doesn't. Nothing will convince them that change is necessary short of a kinetic impact with undeniable physical reality.
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>>542128001
not really a target group myself, but calling men who spend most of their free time with adult content "asexuals" is just hilarious.
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>>542136105
Women feel Government is Gravity and not an Abominable Delusion wholly (re)imagined daily.
if God graces Man, why is The State + all Women + Jews more powerful?
Prior generations wanted to tempt The Lord God about this. Boomers are wicked. Women enfranchised destroys generational wealth. Government paid above market price for all the Gold before finishing the move to full derivative Jewish IOU's.
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>>542135445
You retards aren't worth arguing with, you'll just motte and bailey into unfalsifiable generalizations about getting cucked by Chad and then come back 30 minutes later repeating the exact same shit like a version of how Hitler described debating with Jews but for emasculation fetishism
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>>542136105
this. women have decided they are higher than men as a whole now, no amount of back pedaling by them will happen, especially with government confirming this by giving them everything they want in the last 10 years



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