Apparently when the roman empire fell, most of it's people fled east and later created a country called Romania, which has it's name from the fact the people living there are the original romans, why does no one talk about this?
What are you smoking macaco?
Actually it's because in the medieval Balkans there was a social fad (a mania if you will) where people got really obsessed with the Greek letter for "r" and then made a country about it
>>542140827wut
>>542140827This is exactly what they teach in schools here, along with picrel
explain yourselves Romania flags
>>542141471I will be amazed if the pic is true. romoids usually classify themselves as balkanoid trash. they will fight to the death to be labelled as savage retarded underdeveloped losers. they will foam at the mouth over this.
>>542140827larpershttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re-latinization_of_Romanian
I believe it. Romanian men often look like they have good white genetics, especially the blue eyes. not talking about the gypsy part of the population ofc
Your watch doesn't have Roman numerals? Shameful dispray my barbarian friend I will now confiscate it in the name of Trajan
>>542141841>they will fight to the death to be labelled as savage retarded underdeveloped losers.>they will foam at the mouth over this.And the other side is being labelled cuck who won't do shit ? Yeah I'm a barbaric brute who kills on sight
>>542140827so? do people forget the capital of rome was in the balkans and the entire peninsula used to be filled to the brim with latin peoples
>>542143600All the normgroids get tanned every year so they look like gypsies lmao even gypsies have started pointing this out.They also listen to gypsoid music and want to live like them kek
>>542143842thats pretty sad. I guess its similar to how young germans emulate turkroaches and young americans want to be like nigs
if you look into it, in the middle ages and renaissance "romania" simply meant christian lands. the byzantines kept calling themselves romans until the very end.when the turks took over, romanians kept calling themselves romans because they were not muslims. it's as simple as thatall the way to the early 20th century, the greeks living in anatolia still called themselves either romans or christians, never hellenes. the ancient greek culture revival was a manufacture of the european intelligentsiathere's a region of bulgaria called rumelia for the same reason. and for the same reason the ottomans used to call themselves the sultanate of rum. it'a a geographical denomination with religious roots behind iteverything the byzantines ruled over was "romania" essentially
Nigga that's Chad
>>542141703ibi est in nomine
>>542141471might be some older commie shit
>>542140827romania used to be called rumania and the people were called rumans which means serf/slave in vulgar latinthey are remnants of roman slaves from north africa and the balkans that were set free after the fall of the roman empirethey became known as the "vlachs" and later migrated north into what is today romania due to their pastoral and nomadic way of lifehttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rum%C3%A2n#Synonyms
>>542143600romanians are literally brown, with a low level of blue eyes
>>542144395>romania used to be called rumania and the people were called rumans which means serf/slave in vulgar latincomes from latin Romanus, meaning Roman. Romania essentially means land of the Romans, or Roman land.cope harder & you will never be a Roman
>>542144156except the word romania does not come from "roman", it is a neological doubletromania comes from rumân, previously the country was called rumania and under ceausescu it became known as romania> rumân meant peasant, or a serf who worked the land (in feudal medieval Wallachia). https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rom%C3%A2n#Romanian
>>542144395some random nomads walked up north and 500 years later we got 30 million romanians idk the theory that we're south italians sounds more plausible than this
>>542143749balkanoid means stupid dumb colonized raped turd world scum
>>542143842this
>>542140827>RomaniaEndonym of Eastern Roman Empite aka Byzantine-exonymAfter the jewish freemasons freed the gypsies from slavery, they took over and stole the name. It was called Wallachia back in the day.Also stole lands from their neighbours together with russians and austrians Moldova and Transylvania.Why the fuck would you wanna talk about that shithole? It's basically little Brazil.
>>542141356I had an actual Romani tell me basically this
>>542144549>Inherited from Latin Rōmānus.>The variant rumân also meant peasant>alsolater use as serf, because of reasons. it's still the land of Romans. stop having melties about it lol
>>542144459thats weird.
>>542144571there are 18 million romanians and 100 years ago there were only 4 million romaniansalso your comment does not disprove anything>>542144583which is exactly what romanians are
>>542144688they badly want to be part of the loser club. I blame you for this. elephant boy.
>>542140827What the fuck are we talking about nigger?We are rape babies of everyone around us, with thracian origins.Romans at some point came, saw, conquered, raped, educated us savages enough to become slightly latin and left.
>>542144607>little Brazilsuch statemenents are easy to confirm with random street views. its definitely not a little Brazil, lol.
>>542144688are you like stupid or something? obtuse? does your mental retardation stops you from thinking outside the box and thinking critically of things, just in spain alone there's 1 million romanians in the diaspora, like for the love of god stop being so fucking stupid and retarded, there's no way you're this fucking stupid, you are just trying to bait me you're worse than this fucking captcha i can't complete
>>542144688>not romanswe invented the reaction engine which opened up space exploration and satellites and war rockets we also had the first city in Europe lit by electric bulbs. seem pretty fucking Roman to me
>>542144813>we also had the first city in Europe lit by electric bulbsAt the time, Timișoara was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. These days, statistically Romania has the least amount of indoor toilets of any European nation.What a bunch of gypsies.
>>542144982>there weren't any romans 20km to the west of where the romans werenow you're just being retarded
>>542140827you got it wrong.> Apparently when the roman empire fell, most of it's people fled east and later created a country called Romaniathey fled italy east in the remaining roman empire.people cant figure out that that the byzantine is a made up term, they literally were the roman empire which lasted another millennia.Only when what we call today "the byzantine empire" fell, the romans fled north in the empire province and area now called Romania.The area had many ethnic groups, and latin was the common language of the different people like english is today. Because of the common language, this has evolved in the romanian language which is 75% vulgar latin.The area of Romania was always part of the roman empire for 1500 years, nowadays romanian have up to 10% italian(roman DNA) which is more than the pasta people. I guess the pasta people are less roman than romanians, which is hilarious.
the romanian anthem be like:...Now or never, let us show the worldThat through these arms, Roman blood still flows;And that in our chests we still proudly bear a nameTriumphant in battles, the name of Trajan!...Priests, lead with holy crosses, for this army is Christian,Its motto is liberty and its goal all too holy.Better to die in battle in with eternal glory,Than to once again be slaves on our ancient lands.
>>542140827Did a Romanian tell this to you?
>>542145029Why did you bring up something completely different to what I just said? It was Astro-Hungary when the light bulbs went on. That is historic fact.But now that you brought it up, no, you are not descendents of Romans. People in Budapest still use the Roman baths and drink wine from grapes left behind by the Romans, but Hungary isn't Roman. Neither is Austria, or indeed any of the other nations that had Romans in ancient times.It's because they're not gypsies without plumbing ashamed of their own histories.
>>542145194what the fuck are you on about? its time when we actual Europeans have to stick togetherour minuscule genetic differences are NOTHING compared to the plague of niggers and muslims
>>542145480>Why did you bring up something completely different to what I just said?it is not different anon. you do not understand what you are talking about. discussion was if Romans came to these parts or not. fuck that has to do with imaginary borders over some tens of km? it's about the people in some areaalso during the period you are talking about Bucharest was nicknamed Little Paris. what you see today is basically an embarrassment caused by the unfortunate communism. genetic stock here is pretty fucking based, because it's Roman.>flagyou are literally the descendant of criminals and murderers what were exiled. mind your tone when talking to me
>>542144614>Romani>a gypsy told me thatlol
>>542140827Romanians are top caste Brahmins, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
>>542143842Ayy turn up that Mocanu negro
Living in Bucharest is the closest thing you can get to living in Ancient Rome socially speaking.
>>542146158How are romanian women in bucharest nowadays?still brown and liberal?
>>542144459>romanians are literally brown, with a low level of blue eyeswe are not nordic if thats what you mean, and yes, we are mutts of europeans, we have all the admixtures possible you know, there are other eye colors besides blue that european people have, its just how your(americans) view things and associate blond hair blue eyes with white people.I simply dont give a fuck if we are white or not, we cant be racists because we are mutts.blue eyes are kinda bland compared to the other possibilities (which are also found only in europe, but from your view they are not white)
>>542146203still hot, still the hottest women on earthand still liberal, we were always liberal
>uhh anon... ey kent get out, pliz hyélp mi The world's smartest Romanian, requesting assistance when he got himself trapped in a rolled up carpet at work. I can still remember his little legs kicking as he tried to wriggle free
>>542146203You can find a bit more blondes since the Ukraine war, also it’s the beginning of the university year so a lot of chicks from Moldova. I have no idea if women here are liberal or conservative as I never talk to them beyond what is absolutely needed, they stil put out just as easy if that’s what your asking about, but that never had to do with politics.
>>542146346>septum ring cow>hot
>>542140827the whole roman heritage thing was insisted on mostly to get France to westernize us and protect us from the mean turks, russians and hungarians.we do have a language descended from latin, but the vocabulary was something like 60% latin, 30% slavic, 10% hungarian, turkish, other.after intentionally frenchifying our language in probably the 2nd biggest case of linguistic vandalism (after english), it's 45% inherited latin, 30% french/italian neologisms, 20% slavic, 5% other.
>>542146539Most women don't have firm political beliefs and will end up following whatever her man believes if he introduces his ideas slowly enough including national socialism.
>>542146661This is true. But I swear at least Bucharest has a Roman soul, most conversations you hear daily almost sound transliterated from that Rome or Spartacus show; the extreme focus on beurocracy while also being extremely corrupt, the extreme importance of decorum even when you are literally cursing eachother out, the extreme difference between the plebian areas and the patrician areas, the completely accepted racism, women being whores and decadence being rampant while most people are also mostly religious. The cocalari and the problems they cause are very similar to how legionaries behaved when not on campaigns. I’ve lived in many places, nothing feels as roman as Bucharest, and it’s Bucharest specifically, other places are just basic post Soviet Balkan vibes or mediocre Western Europe vibes in some northwestern zones
>>542146721That’s absolutely true, part of why I don’t care what they think, it’s never out of conviction.
>after rome fellBro read a book some day holy fuckRomans went into Dacia and murdered everyone to the point you dont even knew Dacia existed and then they settled there
>>542144771Why isn't the truth being taught? All this we wuz romans n shiet saar reminds me of indians and their behavior.
>>542140827>people fled east and later created a country called RomaniaNOPE!they are Dacians, Thracian tribe!
>>542147361but we wuz Dacians not romans
>>542141471yes, part of Romania IS in Central Europe
>>542147407
>>542144623I bet he is judeo magyar cygany
>>542144459>romanians are literally brown, with a low level of blue eyes
>>542147407>>542147407I think our Judeo Magyar Cygany neighbours are having ISP problems or something as your post has been up for more than a minute without receiving the proper reply, I’ll do it in their stead out of neighborly love. >part of Romania >implying
>>542140827Romania is a land of myth and legend. As in whenever there's a discussion about romania it's 75% memes and completely made up bullshit told as fact. It's amazing, really.>>542146661>intentionally frenchifying our language> intentionallyWhere does this idea of intent come from? Romanian was modernized before we had a unified state with an academy to standardize the language, as shown by all those 19th century authors. At the time, french was the international language, the most logical source for concepts you didn't have before, or even trendy synonims.Corporate romglish is in full swing now, are we intentionally americanizing?
do romanians consider aromanians romanians
>>542140827I don't understand why some of them have a hardon for a multicultural empire that even had Arab emperors at some point. Rome can be admired only superficially and aesthetically. Dacians did not fight the entire world just to get proto Arab emperors.
>>542148460your multicultural empire was ruled by a non serb
>>542148522Yes.
>>542148367Generally speaking, yes. They're peculiar, but we consider all eastern european romance speakers to be romanian, except a couple of gypsy tribes that moved to Hungary and Ukraine a couple of centuries ago and speak an archaic form of romanian. They're culturally roma, thus gypsies regardless of the language.
>>542140827Romania (Dacia) was a province of the Roman Empire so they didn't need to flee
>>542148997romania is not dacia though, they have as much to do with Dacia as Turks have to do with Galatia or Bulgars have with Moesia
>>542148367Aromanians are the original romanians before they mixed with turks,cumans and gypsies and migrated to valahia
>>542140827
>>542140827its actually differentgreeks started larping as romans, and because romania was some backwater greek province, they called the slves romansmeanwhile hungary at that time was actually using latin
>>542149175>they have as much to do with Dacia as Turks have to do with Galatia or Bulgars have with MoesiaTrue. As in the populations are mostly the same.Don't tell me you're retarded enough to think political history is the same as demographic history.
>>542147407>>542147888if hungary is central europe then transylvania (hungary occupied by cygan) is central europe
>>542149175So a lot?
>>542149581you are closer to the actual truth than you think, during the 1700-1800 before greece earned its independece we were ruled by phanariote greek nobles that planned to fulfill megali idea and use romanian principalities as a powerbase, it is them that came up with the name romaniahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phanariotshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C8%98erban_Cantacuzino
>>542149473We is Dacians
>>542150258thanks romanian anon, i had a vague memory of reading something like this on /pol/ before but didnt remember the facts
>>542140827I don't really want people to talk about my country. Fuck off.
>>542152613No
>>542152613>my country
>>542143546Nicolaus Olahus, the primate of Hungary and shortly the regent of little Hungary, in 1526 right after the battle of Mohacs wrote that the Vlachs call themselves rumunyi in their language, meaning Romans, and consider themselves to speak rumunyeschte(Romanian) meaning the language of Romans. Their purest language has the greatest affinity with Italians. Olahus was the nephew of John "Hunyadi". This is in your own historiography, you dumb bozgor. At least your tried.
>>542150258Pretty sure I've read chronicles and travel logs predating the phanariotes stating that "peasants are calling themselves romans". So the ethnonym is older. I suspect that comes from the byzantine rhomaion, not directly from Rome.
>>542153078why do moldovans say they arent romanians
>>542153078so you've been larping as romans for five centuries now
Some Romanians look Russian, others look Southern Euro and others look gypsy. Romania has 0 culture, people only know that gay song numa Numa yeah, they can't even play football like other Southern Euros like Italy, Spain or Portugal. It's sad but it seems like they are not as barbaric as they used to be, so that's good.
>>542153127yes. aromanians/vlachs were traveling alongside the balkan mountains and carpathians for a long time but from what i understand it was the phanariotes that came up with having the name of the union romaniamegali idea must've been quite a lot more mega and ambitious initially
>not good at wars>not good at infrastructure>not good at agricultureNot very roman if ya ask me
>>542141471>>542147407All of Romania is Centrul Europe. Live related is the view of what constitutes Central Europe in German conception before WW1 kicked off. The Romanian map shown in Romanian textbooks is sound and accurate, but what to expect from chauvinistic Hungarians that always post that map with the insinuations that Romanians are self-absorbed, when in reality their is real historicity behind it. Romanian history textbooks will always be more accurate than that of our newighbours'.
Eastern Europe begins at the German border. Simple as.
>>542144549>rumân meant peasant, or a serf who worked the land (in feudal medieval Wallachia).Rumân did not mean seed, this is a lie spread by Hungarians hiding behind memeflags, it literally meant Roman.
>>542152695No idea what's that supposed to mean anon. Are you implying am I not romanian?>>542152644We need more threads here about amerigolem society and their nigger worship, no place for romanian threads.
>>542141841>I'd rather classify myself as a dogfucker???
>>542153282They use the historic identity instead of the ethnic one.Like austrians vs germans, but weirder. Romania was formed through the union of Moldova and Wallachia, but the eastern periphery of Moldova was under russian occupation at the time. They kept the name of Moldova and claim moldovan identity, although all the relevant parts of the country are in the romanian side and there are twice as many romanian-moldovans than moldova-moldovans. Kind of like romanians claiming roman identity.
Did Romanians know Galerius was the first Romanian Emperor? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galerius
>>542144395>rumans which means serf/slave in vulgar latinA serf is not a slave, completely separate statutes. The fact that you are deliberately trying to.conflate them shows what every eductaed person knows, that you are deliberately spreading misinformation. There is no proof whatsoever of a supposed Romanian migration from the south, this is entirely a fabricated theory by the chauvinist Arthur Koestler who was order on behalf of the Habsburgs to do a chatacter assassionation on the Romanians. Hungarian chauvinist and pseuds have become big proponents of Koestler's fabricated bullshit but what Hungarian retards lile you don't know is that Koestler concluded, in his own theory, that even if Romanians come from south of the Danube they are still Daco-Romans and moreover he denounced his theory later on in life.Also just because *some* of the Romanians might have migrated from south of the Danube, for which again there are no writings or sources documenting this, that doesn't automatically mean that the *entirety" of Romanians trace their origins to south of the Danube. Classical fallacy that is dwliberte promoted by Hungarian iredentists.
>>542148299>are we intentionally americanizing?yes
i wish i had my old pasta folder from decade a go
To think Galerius really does look Romanian.
>>542153687> country is inhabited by people calling themselves rumân> serfs are inhabitants of the coutry, just farmers paying rent to a lord, not foreign slaves brought on ships from Africa> aristocracy are rootless globohomo mutts identifying with the throne they swore fealty to rather than ethnicityIt's technically correct that serfs were called rumâni. What it leaves out is what the other >60% of the population were called.
>>542154288
>>542153504Roman bloodRoman languageRoman religionRoman historyRoman traditionsRoman cultureDescribed as Roman by others.Also, by your logic Scandinavians can't claim lineage to the Vikings because they aren't raiding and pillaging and enslaving anymore like the Vikings used to do, to say nothing of the fact that they aren't Phan anymore, or that they don't use runic scripts, so they are not displaying Viking character anymore, and thus they cannot claim to be descendants of the Vikings. What mental illness plagues the Hungarians, absolutely hilarious.
>>542154428>aren't Phan anymorearen't pagan anymore
I have a small thesis about this God forsaken nation that is so obsessed with slave-master dynamics worse than whores.The Romanian nation has been a nation of (pseudo-)slaves for almost two millennia, starting with Romans and currently under a weird oligarchy comprised of EU, China and USA, mostly with EU dominance and mostly friendship with China, no matter what those USR trannies try to do.This can be observed especially when you are to take a look at the greatest Romanian inventors, artists and figures. They have been kicked out, mocked and sabotaged by boieri (dunno term in english), by military officers and other vile, narcissistic and psychopathic sociopaths in positions of power. Romania's governance is filled with these rotten pests since the middle ages, and maybe even further back.Brâncuși, Coandă, Cuza, all ridiculed, mocked and dismissed as buffoons. If God forbid you are intelligent, do art and/or have made inventions of any value, even to this very day you'll be thrown out in roars of laughter for "thinking you're in Germany/France/America".I have loved my nation with a fiery passion, but I realized that it is as capable of loving me back as a fresh piece of shit out of some stray dog."If you love your nation, but it doesn't love you back, then that's exactly like loving a whore. She'll never love you back, she only cares about money and her ideal of what a man is, not the fact that you created a million dollar worth invention." - a random guy I met on an Arma 3 server a long while ago
>>542154426Chudotype Romanic.
>>542153764> Are you implying am I not romanian?i'm implying the country is owned by someone else and we have nosaying in important matters
>>542153583>Mitteleuropa is what sphere of influence Germany dreamed to achieve
>>542154051There is nothing wrong with the migration theory and the passion both sides put in it is beyond retarded.> haha, you are latin speaking byzantines, literal eastern romans, that came here 800 years ago and quickly colonized and assimilated the natives> lies, we've been here since the stone age, we just didn't do anything about a million steppe tribes rampaging around for 1000 years.Nothing wrong with coming from byzantium, nothing wrong with coming from the ural-volga forests, nothing wrong with just shitting in the woods for 3000 years. Doesn't mean anything, unless you come from north India, that shit will linger for at least 1000 years.
>>542144982Say what you want but at least they own their houses.
>>542154792Yes, in eastern Europe once you turn 18 you get a house from the state.
>>542154522>boieri (dunno term in english)boyars?>and other vile, narcissistic and psychopathic sociopaths in positions of power. this unfortunately is not unique to Romania within Europe, but is rather rampant everywhereI just cope by telling myself evolution is taking its course, and as we learned empathy, compassion and trust, so we must learn to handle emotional trauma caused by our own brutality and mercilessness towards those who are making us live in misery and impede progress, or die of we do not do what must be done. I'm not guilt ridden and I would never be, but the overwhelming majority of the population are too sentimental towards their abusers.
I like Romania and I miss that weird little retard that used to come on here obsessed with a German woman's soccer goalie that looks like a boy I think she changed her haircut singlehandedly because of his online behaviour and I wonder if this is a pathology all Romanian men have
>>542140827Because the cope is embarrassingly obvious.
>>542154428Yeah, imagine not going to western europe in the summer and returning with your vehicle full of loot to the awe of your village. Scandinavians are a bunch of larpers, romanians are the true heirs of the vikings.>>542154522You're a brainwashed retard describing a rorschach test. Power selects for psychopaths and innovators get criticized, wow, what a uniquely terrible place.
>>542155161That mf probably found some hambeast to cull his frustration
>>542155161
>>542153282Saying Moldovans aren't Romanian is like saying that Bavarians aren't Germans, or Occitan aren't French. There are some Russian and Ukrainian colonists that were shipped into Basarabia during Russian Imperial times and Soviet times to act as fifth columnists and they were supposed to trigger if there ever was even a wiff of a potential reunification. They will claim that they are not Romanian but Moldovan instead, but in reality they do not care about the Moldovan identity nor the language since deep down they know a Moldovan is a Romanian, and the Moldovan language is in fact identical to Romanian language, but they nevertheless they hide behind this "Moldovenism" because in reality their true allegience is to Russia and they are trying to block the reunifying project just long enough until Russia will swallow Basarabia back.The Moldovan principality, the original feudal state was a Romanian state, and a founding member of the Romanian *nation-state* in 1859, the same way that the Italian states of Lombardy, Grand Duchy of Toscana, Sicily, Romagna, the Papal states and so on coalesced to form the modern *nation-state* of Italy in 1861. Romania and Romanians are the legal successors of Moldovans or the Moldovan principality, the same way the current Italians are the legal successors of the Italian states pre unification. Basarabia, which is the real and correct name, could not participate at the founding of Romanian *nation-state* because they were being held hostage against their will in the Russian Empire at that time, otherwise they would have surely participated. And of course over the centuries there was heavy indoctrination in Basarabia were the people were taught to hate Romanians and hate their real Romanian identity. If the Moldovans are separate than Romanians how is it possible that their mother-tongue is literally identical to Romanian? Look at the Szekely, they speak Hungarian but identify as Szekely. Are the Szekely not also Hungarians?
>>542155161> I wonder if this is a pathology all Romanian men haveYes,we're very pasionate lovers, our divorce rates are low. Once i marry a british/german girl we're never getting divorced because we're that good at taking care of 'our' women
>>542147387we're not that either. yet for some reason buncharetards here take pride in being a bunch of barbarian nobodies that did nothing
>>542155234>Power selects for psychopaths and innovators get criticized, wow, what a uniquely terrible place.Power doesn't select for that, instead psychopaths seek power while everyone else either doesn't care, is too afraid or feels too incompetent to be responsible of that power, something psychopaths don't even care about and get power only to have "fun" messing with others with minimal to absolutely zero consequences. Innovators weren't criticized, they were mocked, thrown out, ridiculed, disenfranchised, harassed and robbed simply because those around them had the "românaș" mentality of "if it's so fucking good, why don't the Germans use it, dipshit?"
>>542155731...Vollanon? Is that you?
>>542155731Are you happy? Are you healthy? Please we just want to know if you're ok.
>>542155751Meds
>>542156914>>542156621i'm not him , calm down
>>542145043are you saying that romanians are closer genetically to 'romans' than modern italians?this is quite the claim.And didn't the byzantine empire speak greek, not latin?
>>542153078Oláh is the Hungarian equivalent to bozgor for Romanians. Yet you never see them use it against Romanians, because the only chauvinist here is you
>>542155234>Yeah, imagine not going to western europe in the summer and returning with your vehicle full of loot to the awe of your village.>Scandinavians are a bunch of larpers, romanians are the true heirs of the vikings.As if the Romans weren't looters and hoarders centuries before the appearance of the Vikings.
>>542153504>>not good at warskek what the actual fuck can how so many of you be so fucking uncultured swineswe pushed US's shit in so fucking hard they never dared officially declare war on anyone ever since, we're the last country they ever declared war to.school yourself:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tidal_Wave#shit was so bad they called it Black Sunday.>53 aircraft - about a third of those committed - and 500 aircrewmen lost.> the bombing campaign in Ploiești was "one of the bloodiest and most heroic missions of all time".>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States#Formal_declarations_of_warsad to see so many retarded takes here, from people with no knowledge of any bit of history.
>>542157308https://youtu.be/YDLLoAqum3k
>>542156032Brancusi> cutting edge avatgarde abstract sculptor moved to Paris because he wasn't appreciated in his watermelon farmer region and his piss poor >50% illiterate countryCoanda> filthy rich guy quits the military, buys a car and takes a roadtirp to fucking Tibet in 1900 then goes to study aeronautics in France and remains there to work on R&D> returns to Romania during communism and is made director of some research instituteCuza> prince tries to bring country from late feudalism into the modern era> nationalizes massive amounts of land from the church, cuts aristocracy privileges, regulates alot of previously unregulated stuff> this causes a political shitstorm, he eventually gets ousted and exiledYes, such unique, unreasonable stories. Only in Romania. Our culture is very special, we also like our families and eating food.Brainwashed retard.
>>542157154No, Olah is not the equivalent to bozgor, Olah is the original exonym that the Hungarians applied to Romanians. Olah carries no pejorative connotations like bozgor does, see Andrew Olah. Many Hungarians today have Olah as their last name. Event the Hungarian exonym for Italian, the Olasz is derived from Olah, further proving the conventional wisdom of the Hungarians at the time, that they had viewed the Romanians as Latin, and of the same stock as Italians. THIS IS HUGE.For example the Hungarian exonym for Italy is Olaszország. Olasz from Olah. And Olah ultimately came from Vlah.Vlah -> Ulah -> Olah.
>>542140827>Why is no one talking about this?cuz it's a criminal poorfagg gypsy shithole, obviously
>>542157812True, true.Absolutely horrible place, do not recommend, saar.
>>542157812I have a sneaking suspicion that you're a croat jew
>>542158149>saar>>542158169>jewnot from Romania, sorry, lil gypsy untermenschen
>>542144156>the brown people living in turkey who spoke greek who called themselves roman who the romans thought were greeks, thought the greeks were the romans calling themselves romans living in europe speaking latintldr, christcucks were retarded, still are too.
>>542148299>are we intentionally americanizing?https://youtu.be/bEqv0cnqiO0
>>542157812crime is based tho. obeying talmudic law is for fags and occassionally women
>>542148299>Corporate romglish is in full swing now, are we intentionally americanizing?analogy is not an argument, learn to argue, dimwitted gypsy fagg, lol
>>542158856>crime is based tho.till the moment these gypsies don't rob you, kek
>>542158703>blah blah blahthe romans called themselves roman because that's what they had always called themselves. a modern greek identity did not exist yet.
>>542159064the roman identity was the original globohomo identityhttps://youtu.be/weBFFygUxxc
>>542158952gypsies are literal jeets from India doe
>>542157308>we pushed US's shit in so fucking hard>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tidal_Wave#since when Germans that rule over gypsies are "Romanians", lmao?ironic shit that Germans rule Romania till this day -- that's how pathetic you, gypsies, are
>>542159611>since when Germans that rule over gypsies are "Romanians", lmao?there were no Germans there you imbecile, only chad Romanians. Germans were stealing our oil for the war.again, stop being uncultured swine
>>542159611You're not even german bucko. Prove us wrong, but you'll hide behind your memeflag just like all the other mossad agents.
>>542159611>>542159995watch the original mission briefings where Americans were saying there will be scared Romanians there hiding in their bunkers. they weren't expecting the ass whooping they got
> mfw memeflaggot jeet uses euro-jeet as an insult> mfw he obliviously interjects with kindergarten tier rhetoric observations in discussions between co-nationals who share certain implicit knowledge, as is the jeet way> mfw he doesn't get the (you)> mfw he doesn't get the face
>>542159995>there were no Germans there you imbecilecope, gypsy shitskin, the whole mission was carried out by Alfred Gerstenberglet's see how you, gypsoids, will be fighting on own your against Russia, but without any allies -- would love to see how "mighty & strong" you are as you shit-talk on this mongolian imageboard
It was more complicated than that.All that area from the Danube all the way down to Anatolia became the Eastern Roman empire.And its inhabitants were called Romei.But some of them kept their older ethnic identification. Greeks did for sure. So once the Eastern Roman empire collapsed too, Greeks returned to their Hellenic identity.But some of the people in that area continued to identify with the old Roman citizenship because it gave them a cultural connection as an identity.Many of them migrated north of the Danube where there already was a leftover population after the Romans left. These formed the basis of the proto-Romanian people.It's worth noting that Romania was the old coloquial name of the Eastern Roman empire. "Romania" was actually the Greek word for the empire.
>>542144549>rumânNicolaus Olahus the primate of Hungary confirms in his writing that rumân means Roman and Romanians claim lineage from Rome. This is literally in Hungarian historiography. Just like the Vlacho-Bulgarain empire which is how the Hungarians refered to the Second Bulgarian empire during the brief Asen rule, which is also taken from Hungarian historiography.
>>542160856Yeah but it wasn't an ethnic lineage.They were former citizens of the Roman empire. So they identified as Romei.
>>542160600there was no mission you idiot, we were attacked. romanians were guarding the refinery. we even hosted a meet up a few years back, an American pilot who survived came here to meet the Romanian pilot who shot him down. shot the plane, American pilot parachuted and Romanian pilot spared his life, could have killed him but chose not to. was released after the war went back to US and at old age came here to meet the Romanian pilot who shot him down.we didn't want to go against Americans, we were forced to by Germans. we had no choice.
>>542161056>there was no mission you idiotcope, subhuman braindead gypsy
>>542161056>we didn't want to go against Americans>we were forced to by Germans. we had no choice.no shit, your country has always been a proxy/colony of others since the very creation of it, of course, you aprior would not have choice, lmao
post romanian qts
>>542161163we had Germans here, because they were stealing our fucking oil. but they didn't fight in that fight you braindead imbecile lolnow I'm pretty sure a Romanian fucked your wife or stole your girlfriend, fucking loser. seethe harder
question to foreigners if you are willing how do you explain that about 70% to 80% of the modern Romanian vocabulary has Latin or Romance origins?
>>542161428>stealing our fucking oil.stealing? you stole it from Hungarians & Bulgarians firstly, kek>but they didn't fight in that fightno way, retard, who would've thought that it's easier for Germans to throw enslaved cannon fodder gypsies, rather than fighting in person :O
they ilegaly occupy western moldova
>>542161516>70% to 80% of the modern Romanian vocabulary has Latin or Romance origins?cuz you cleansed your vocabulary of old Bulgarian wordstock, replacing it with French borrowings, obviouslybut Romanian is still a cbastardized cattle language, however you cope with artificial borrowings
>>542161689Western Moldova is Romania, just like Basarabia. In the historiography of the Serbs, Hungarians, Bulgarians and Poles, sometimes Wallachia used to be refered to as "Basarabia" or the "Land of Basarab'.Romanians are the legal successors of Moldovans, and Romania is the legal successors of the Moldovan principality, which was a founding member of the Romanian nation-state, the same way Italians today are the legal successors of the Italian principalities that used to exist before they united to format the modern Italian nation-state>>542155618
>>542162010>Western Moldova is Romania, just like Basarabia.Romania didn't even exist before 1877 to have claims for these lands
>>542161689> theyWho the fuck are they, pedal?70% of "eastern Moldovans" have romanian citizenship so you can pick berries in the EU.They are you you are we we are us.
>>542161652>stealing? you stole it from Hungarians & Bulgarians firstly, kekbro you keep showing everyone how fucking retartded you are. Ploiesti is nowhere near any Hungarian or Bulgarian "claims".for whoever is curious, we had these bad boys:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bSGBcyF-T0operation Tidalwave is mentioned, these bad boys downed a lot of US bombers
>>542162139>Ploiesti is nowhere near any Hungarian or Bulgarian "claims".don't play dumb, nigger, Wallachia has always been a Bulgarian province
>>542162255BulGAYrian confirmed?Maybe, tho def a shitskin lmfao, malding too hard.
>>542162660>your mom's cunt is everyone's province>ad motherunderage subhuman dedectedyou need to be over 18 yo to post on here -- so get reported
>>542146032>Bucharest nicknamed Little Parissure. they just mistyped Budapest as usual..https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/bucharest-not-budapest-psg-fans-093500319.html>>542144813Temesvár was Austro-Hungarian Empire back then (part of The crown of St. Stephen for 1000 of yrs minus the 150 yrs of Ottoman occupation).. srsly, wtf your history books teaching u all!?
>>542162767>>542162852>seething bulgarian and hungariankek
>>542162086Moldova principality was a Romanian state, in fact it was a Valahian state outright, as Stephen the Great was recorded to speak Valahian and his daughter was nicknamed Voloshanka at the court in Moscow, and the founders of the state were recorded in Hungarian historiography as being Vlahs.The point is the Romanian NATION did exist, and the existance of the nation is not contingent upon the existance of a state, otherwise the Jewish nation did not exist in the 1800 or however many years the Jews lived in the diaspora, dispersed in Europe without a state of their own. According to your logic the Romanians fell out of the sky in 1877, the Jews fell out of the sky in 1948, the Italians fell out of the sky in 1861 and the Kurdish nation does not exist because the Kurds in all their long history could not found a state of their own.The nation exists independent of the state and the Moldovan principality just like Wallachian principality were Romanian states anyway, as confirmed by Nicolaus Olahus and many, many others, including ow Moldovan chroniclers like Dimitrie Cantemir or Miron Costin>>542153078
>>542162852>wtf your history books teaching u all!?revisionism as per usual, lolthe whole Romania's "historiography" is just revisionism & coping to hide the fact that their artificial country became a thing only in 1877
>>542140827>1pbtid>topic is romania>ctrl+f "bozgor">4 matches>judeo magyar cygany>serb flaglike clockwork
>>542162957>>seething bulgarian and hungarianim not Bulgarian, retardalso, why would we seethe, just because Romania nexer existed before 1877?
>>542150258There was such a movement from the Greeks.
>>542140827>let's run to the most dangerous frontier of the empire!???
>>542163253Romanians touched you or your wife somewhere. you can show us on this doll where...
>>542162986the day I learned romanian is a religion, and jews is a statehood
>>542153817colonized romoid tripling down on being a slave. imagine my shock.
>>542162255>Wallachia has always been a Bulgarian provinceAlways been a Bulgarian province? By that logic Russia has always been a province of the Mongol Empire and the 13th colonies have always been provinces of the British Empire. It's almost as if history is in constant flux or soemthing but easier to live entirely in the past, like in the 9th century. The Romanians can chose to self-determinate separaty from the Bulgarians just like the Russian can chose to free themselves of the Mongol yoke or the Americans can chose to declare independence from the British Empire, that much more so since Romanians have a language identity and origin that is separate from the Bulgarians.On the contrary, the only reason Bulgaria has independence today is thanks to Romania, if anything Romania literally created Bulgaria.
>>542162767>he really reportedlol what a petty human you are lmao weak faggot
I never see any other country we wuzzing as much as Romania, why is that?
>>542140827Not true, the true history of Romania is that in the beginning the Gods looked upon the earth and said “We need to choose a group of people who will lead the humanity into prosperity and peace” so they forged the Dacians from pure mountain stone, wolf blood and the lightning of Zamolxis. These were not mere men, they were the Chosen. Immortal in spirit, unconquerable they were the original holy race with greatest purpose from them all. The Dacians lived in perfect harmony in advanced societies with help of Gods they built in Bucegi mountains tunnels and interdimensional portals that serves as a library for hidden knowledge. The Jews were well aware of that so they used to infiltrate into Dacia as just mere merchants and students where they took over the Bucegi mountains and unleashed upon Earth an army of Archons, they knew well the Dacians wanted retribution for that so they subverted the Romans to conquer Dacia. The Gods were angry about that so they sent Jesus who was fluent in Romanian and Jews with help from Archons found out about that so they killed Jesus in order to become the masters of the world. Now Gods are letting the Jews to enjoy as long as they can until a time when their sins will be too heavy to be carried and will consume their souls and get punished severely and bring back the Dacian World Order
>>542140827>why does no one talk about this?because we have more brain cells than you. go back to sleep. it must have drained all of your energy to create this simple thread.
>>542163926>I never see any other country we wuzzing as much as Romania, why is that?inferiority complex
>>542163401What do you mean, exttapolate.It is a fact that the Jews lived for more than a millenium and a half without a state of their own, dispersed among the European kingdoms and empires and not only, also throughout the middle east and the Ottoman Empire and Roman Empire before that and so on. By the logic of the anti-Romanian chauvinists, who claim Romanians appeared in 1877- they make the deliberate fallacy of tying the existence of the nation contingent upon the existance of the state. This means that the Jews have no continuity whatosver, because they did not have a state of their own for over a millenium, so no state = no nation in their warped view. So make up your mind which one is it?I am arguing and pointing out that a nation can exist and can have continuity whitout the requirement of having a state of their own, even being held captive in other people's empires, which is how the Romanians have also been held captive, against their will, in the Bulgarian empire, the Hungarian empire, Ottoman Empire, Russian empire and so on, but still holding on to their Romanian language and identity and culture, just like the Jews or the Kurds have.
>>542163926we are the center of the world but the rest of the world doesn't yet understand that, see >>542163987
>>542164160>we are the center of the worldsubanimal poorfagg gypsy niggercattle car-stealers, let's leave it at that
>>542140989fpbp
>>542164435it's literally the center you oblivious fool
>>542164551>it's literally the center you oblivious fool>WI wuzz WE AH, MAINE x100000stfu, underage zoomeroid gypsy cattle, for fucks sake
>>542140827>We wuz the real romans and shiiieeet
>>542164643I notice that upsets you greatly. that would be the case if it was the center of it all. so thanks for confirming it
>>542164656>>We wuz the real romans and shiiieeeti hope Russia starts bombing the shit out of them just so that they would STFU finally with their delusional WE WUZING absolutely unsufferable niggers, telling u
>>542164745>>542164722
>>542140827Romanians are gypsies, should all be killed no exceptions. Even their fair skinned are tainted.
>>542164785ropemaxx the fuck down yourself, gypsy, no one likes you, get it through your skull, faggot
>>542164745Just ignore them they are tiny shithole with the GDP of a single flyover American state. They LARP because they are nobodies.
>>542164916>having total meltdownrent free, faggot. ywnbar
>>542146310dont't feel too bad I had a couple buddies who were half romanian and they both had blue eyes and over 6 feet tall
>>542165038>1920909683.jpgyou posted a wrong pic, lad, you wanted to post this one instead
>>542165038You remind me of those Mexican Latinos who think they are somehow descended from Latin speaking Rome and thus Roman. You are delusional and no doubt have showed your ignorance to others as you have us.
>>542163324>15 posts by this ID>>542165038>17 posts by this ID Attention starved third-worlders goybot programming kicking in when their white first world masters say their name. YWNBA
Took 2-3 decades but the Romanian ethnogenesis debates have seemingly escaped the Eastern European internet. It is quite funny seeing these posts as every possible argument has been made in this subject like 20 years ago from all possible sides
>>542165387You can’t reason with delusion, they refuse to understand that any state or people will lie about who they are or where they come from to be a claimant to power. Unaware of their shithole country or poor reputation in the first world. First worlds hear “Romania” and think Gypsy thieves and Hotel Transylvania. A total joke of a country and people. They should do the right think and erase themselves in mass suicide from their irrelevancy. The coming age will have no place for these leftover people.
>>542153078>Olahus was the nephew of John "Hunyadi"wtf Oláh Miklós was born in 1493John Hunyadi died 1456. augusztus 11.(49–50 year old) - also was a squire under Sigismund, so his age fitshow old was his sister?????? if capable to bear child in 1493????? something here screams forgeryromanians are you cooking the books again?
>>542163622What is your point? The original inhabitants were pre-indoeuropean hunter gathereres, then neolithic farmers, then early indo-european tribes.Dacia was not ethnically homogenous, it was a tribal confederation that also included celtic, scythian, iranic and unknown tribes. There were also greek colonies and iranic and germanic nomads that sometimes allied with the dacians although not part of the tribes of Dacia proper.Then in the 1000 years between Dacia and the foundation of the romanian principalities everyone between the goths and the mongols spent some time here.What does that have to do with anything?
>>542165571Unbelievable wretched bozgor chauvinism. No arguments just insults.
>>542140827Correct.>>542143546Did you read the article contents? It contradicts what the title implies. Romanian has always been a romance language.
>>542165761Who was Olah Miklos?
>>542144549Rumân is still derived from Roman, dumbass. The foreign name "Vlach" also confirms Roman identity
>>542165571>people will lie about who they are or where they come fromWhere's the lie? Romanians speak a language closely tied with northern Italian dialects. Doubly funny from a flag known for "I'm 13/51 Cherokee, 1/8 Silesian, etc."
>>542163926Because you don't pay as much attention to their lunatics, or you don't really care enough to look into their mainstream historiography. We wuzzing is everywhere and it's hilarious, I don't know if we're even among the top contenders.
>>542165387The Romanian ethnogenesis is settled and accepted by everybody except Hungarians who have a vested interest in spreading lies and fabrications because of your conflict of interests.
>subhuman gypsies still WE WUZZING ITTutter niggercattle coping gypsoids
>>542140827No, and there is no point to discuss anymore as we're a colony of kikes sucking us dry. fuck jews
>>542167269
>>542167757>typical hungarian.jpgim not Hungarian, obsessed shitskin
>>542167824you malding hard you from some shithole
>>542167824>im not HungarianDidn't ask and don't care.
>>542148367Genetically they are different, so no, I don't consider them to be the same people. They're greeks, and I'm not saying this as a bad thing, quite the opposite actually
>>542166335https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ol%C3%A1h_Mikl%C3%B3s_(esztergomi_%C3%A9rsek)the guy who's latinized name is Nicolaus Olahus (catholic church latinized name?) Primate of Esztergom in XVIth century Hungary
>>542168261Ah yeah, I realized afterwards you were talking about Nicolaus himself. Miklos is the Hungarian equivalent of Nicolaus? But you have to use the Latin name, Nicolaus Olahus since he used his Latin name just like Ioannes Corvinus/Ioannes de Hunyad. Latin was the official language in Hungary at the time and him as a Primate would use his Latin name.
>>542167824>im not HungarianProve it. Show flag
>>542168777he'll never do it lol
