German high court ruled a few years back that a man in his 40s who drove with his 14 yr old girlfriend (not 15 as anglosphere damage control media claims) to France, against her parents wishes, was not guilty of any criminal wrongdoing. They also said the girl was old enough to decide who she wanted to be withhttps://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article139330633/14-Jaehrige-Eltern-holen-Josephine-jetzt-nach-Hause.htmlThat would be near a life sentence in the anglosphere. Now just over a river called the channel, is Bongland. It is a strange land with strange ideas that it likes to force on the entire planet. Among the most ridicules of its ideas (even more ridicules than cricket and those stupid hats) is the idea that post-pubescent adolescent girls of childbearing age, who where considered young woman for thousands/millions of years....are actually children, no different to toddlersDue to internalizing this batshit feminist mindvirus more stringently than any other country on earth (via the tabloid papers that tell them what to think) - the UK has a unique phenomenonThis is the existence of virtual vigilante armies called ''pedohunters'', who specialize almost exclusively in hunting down guys who send admittedly inaporporate texts to fat guys named baz posing as adolescent girls, often while drunk.What would be considered a virtual non issue, or misdemeanor worthy of a slap on the wrist, carrying no major social stigma still in much of Europe, in the UK would result in a guys car being burned, windows being bricked, huge mobs descending on his house, and likely requiring the riot police to move him. Then a harsh sentence, life on a sex offender reg and total social death...and often attacks/vandalism/stabbingsHow this plays out on either side of whats basically just a river amazes me. Let us now discuss the anglo-american mind virus (also disclaimer - fuck actual pedophilia).
>>542161840This story is from 2015. It would probably go down differently now.
>>542163139This issue is subject to deep national security state level data censorship/regional compartmentalization protocolsPopulations within the angosphere are not allowed to know the cultural and legal realities of continental western europe on this issue (specifically central europe) All search engines, wiki, mainline ai chat llms are subject to these protocols. Anglosphere national security infrastructure employees will also shillThey will always do the following >claim that while the age is much younger is much of europe ''actually...thats only if theres a 5 year age gap'' (this is not the case in much of Europe)>but its practically illegal ! they would end up in prison...because all the clauses like position of trust (countries like Germany where forced to except these clauses, but their judiciary is completely opposed to touching the 14 age (the clauses apply only to egregious cases of disparity such as severe disability and so on)>the idea that ''its practicaly illegal'' is a myth propagated by anglo-american national security agencies and globalist UN adjacent NGOs>The German judicial class like those in much of central europe are strongly resistant to being pressed to move their age - they see external pressure to do so as aggressive foreign overeach>Europeans have a profoundly different philosophy and attitude towards this (adolescents are classified more as young adults)>Large factor in this is that Feminism in mainland Europe does NOT push for older ages of consent>European feminism trad considers teenage girls as autonomous actors with the rights of woman, they strongly resist anglo feminism >Right wing based in old Catholic rural traditions esp in Southern europe still retain the legacy of early marriage and such, so strangely in europe its not really a right vs left thing
>>542161840>At what age should consent be allowedMarriage>At what age should marriage be allowedMenarcheThere is literally nothing wrong with marrying young or for desiring a younger partner to build a life together. There is everything wrong with wanting to use someone purely for sexual gratification, regardless of the age of either party.
also, for some anthropological/political data that you wont get anywhere else >ireland, altho the age is higher than the UK, and irish society is heavily anglo influenced, does not share the same attitude as the UK (specifically England on this issue)....let me explain>the differences in cultural attitude might seem small at first, but there are still quite different >lets say some guy is caught sending inappropriate texts to an underage girl lets say 14 or 15>even tho the age is 17 in ireland, higher than the uk, the cultural reaction is different >it is absolutely still frowned upon,but its more like ''did you hear about jason ?....yea hes an awful fucking eegit..whats he thinking like ?....-yea i hope he get a kick up the arse.....-yea that lad really needs to get his act together''>its not the kind of existential life ending event that it is in England *altho it is changing*>In england, same guy, would have his house burned out, his car set on fire, mobs would literally evict him in a riot on the street....he might end up being found stabbed in a ditch a week later (none of that would happen in ireland, unless it was some extremely messed up crime involving young children ie actual pedophilic)>Now heres a huge difference, in Ireland, pedohunting groups are not tollerated by the majority of the public whatsoever >They are seen as scumbag vigilantes by most of society, and are aggressively suppressed by the state/Garda >when so called pedohunters get arrested and charged in ireland, the public doesnt have sympathy for them (huge difference)
>>542163910It's not a left vs right thing in America either, the American left and the American right are both feminist and full of pedohysterical retards.>mainline ai chat llmsLOL just don't use American AI.
>>542164120No not really, it should be when a girl can safely give birth, which varies, but the consensus of 14 has been in place for over a thousand years. Its still the age in much of Europe and theres nothing wrong with it.The Catholic Church still refuses to move it despite immense pressure from UN adjacent feminist NGOs, and rightly so as its a theological issue. The saints explicitly laid out that the sign from God that a girl is a woman, is when she can have children. If God did not intend for the girl to be marriageable until 18 or 20 he would have designed her not to have children until this age No religion, no culture ever in the history of world saw it any differently. Its common sense. Rejected of course by the jew feminists who control the anglo-american and globalist institutions.
>>542165202DESU a lot of Irish flags on /pol/ tend to be giga agecuck simps, how did you escape the feminist brainwashing?
>>542163139Das right. People weren't pedophobic back in 2015
all girls should be married off at 16.
>>542161840when their fathers give them in marriage
>>542165507yea its bit of a strange one, when i was in secondary school in rural ireland - there was a girl around 14/15 cant remember to be exact and she got pregnant, her bf was in his mid to late 20s, worked on a building site. there was a bit of mild mockery about him ''being a bit of a cradle snatcher'', but tempered by ''a sure hes a sound lad''.....and in crude teenage form...''look lads, if theres grass on the pitch''now i have no doubt the guy was pulled aside by that girls family and im sure they had a word with him, emphasizing that he was expected to furfil his obligations....but nobody went the police nobody thought it would be right to put the guy in prison or make a criminal out of him, or even separate the couple. on the contrary, he was expected to stay with her now there was weirdly a stigma around the age gap thing even at that time. that culture was established somewhat, lads who where in their late teens where wary about going with girls in their early teens, so that had been importedbut i think what i witnessed with the kind of allowance being made in that situation, was the last flicker of the old system
>>542161840Once it can breed it's hit the wall
>>542161840If there's grass on the field, play ball.
Today, 20-25. People growing up today become adults late and has basically no experience or financial ability to have a family until they are at least 30.I think the answer should be measured in income, where they are in life and their ability to have a family. Someone who gets pregnant under 20 is most likely going to give the child a shit life since they dont have the funds or ability to give a child a good future.
>>542166490>there was a girl around 14/15 cant remember to be exact and she got pregnant, her bf was in his mid to late 20sFuck I would have been so happy to have a teenage wife in my mid-20s. God damn this fucking faggot society and the simps and roasties who stole this from us.>now there was weirdly a stigma around the age gap thing even at that time. that culture was established somewhat, lads who where in their late teens where wary about going with girls in their early teens, so that had been importedYeah, Chris Hansen's faggot cuck show was already airing here in kikemerica and people were becoming super touchy about age gaps even 20 years ago. I would have loved to have this too, but sadly America is a tyrannical shithole run by boomers and normalfags. America is the Great Satan and the world would be better off if a meteor struck America and completely erased it.
>>542165050American Left is by default better on banging teenagers than the American Right is, not because they morally disagree with the Right, but because they favor more lenient criminal sentencing across the board on all issues.You'd be better off banging a 15yo in California than Florida by a long shot, despite 18 being the legal age in both states.
>>542165720>>542165676>>542166490>>542163139>>542161840The problem is that as long as you abide by 18 being the Age of Majority, the puritan feminists are going to use the 'minor exploitation' argument against you. The only way to neutralize this bad faith argument is to lower the age of majority itself to puberty. That's what the Taliban did in Afghanistan, that's how they shut down Feminism for Good.
>>542166831Of course Chris Hansen himself is a dirtbag who has affairs with 18+ women. These pedo hunters are all fornicators & they have the nerve to invoke God while justifying fornication for 18+ people when God classifies the majority age as puberty & outlaws fornication in general. The idea of 'consenting adults' is the basis for normalized degeneracy, never has degeneracy been so openly promoted & normalized before, despite the adulthood age being traditionally lower.
>>542167367Lol no, leftists instantly turn into Soviet gulag wardens whenever you fuck a girl 5 seconds under the age of cucksent. They don't actually have any consistent principles aside from fucking non-Chad men over.
>>542167693In terms of sentencing, leftists give you an easier time. Both Cuckservatives & Leftists equally cry about 'muh grooming', even if the woman is 30.
>>542165507Also iv always been a bit of a history buff, so i knew this was a relatively recent phenomena. Its interesting actually how the feminist deep state are trying to airbrush this out of history (doctoring pop history records, photographs, wiki articles and so on). One of the big parts of their rewriting history is trying to make people think this was something phased out in medieval times...When you actually only need to go back to the 70s-80s in the US to see when it was still acceptable (look into how many celebrities/historical notables where dating girls in their early to mid teens from 1900-1980s). Esp look at the 70s-80s. Or look at modern countries in western/central Europe. The data compartmentalization, air-bushing and sand-boxing going on is insane.>>542166831The legal penalties are worse in parts of the US, but the actual cultural attitude is the worst in the UK. The UK is the global epicenter of this idea that an adolescent girl is the same as a toddler. But only when it comes to guys a minute over 18/20?, when it comes to those same girls and guys under those ages, they both tolerate and promote absolute depravity.They always have been a fucked up culture and this country just mindlessly copies them. Its a shame the French didn't colonize this place.
>>542161840>weimar degeneracykek
>>542161840>another 4chan thread demanding legalization of child rapeI would post Nikocado Avocado's asshole for all to see ITT, but the tranny janny would ban me.
>>542167951>>542161840The 21 majority age that existed until early 1970s was never aggressively enforced due to the old precedent of teens lying about their age to get married/join the military behind held legally liable. Founding Fathers opposed ID Verification to combat grooming, Founding Fathers endorsed teens lying about their age.WT Stead in the 1880s came up with the Deep State Operating System, which he called 'Government by Journalism' & he talked about how generating hysterical propaganda could be used to rule a government.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_by_Journalismhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._T._SteadStead used hysteria to hike the age of c0nsent, which anti-feminists/anti-suffragists pointed out would be used for blackmail purposes (mossad/jeffrey) due to teenagers & people in their early 20s looking alike. Stead invented pedo conspiracies as a psyop & was the first pedo hunter. He bragged about ruling the government with journalism. Stead gave his propaganda model to William Hearst who instigated the Spanish American war. USS Maine was a fake false flag, it blew up on its own. Stead also claimed to communicate with spirits & he co-founded Cecil Rhodes' Round Table Movement.>It is often suggested that that campaign by William Randolph Hearst's paper that led to the US invasion of Cuba in 1898>That has been the chief argument advanced against raising the age of c0nsent. You get young girl prostitutes parading the streets; they get some man to accompany them; and he is thereupon threatened that, unless he pays over so much money as blackmail, he will be prosecuted for having accompanied the girl below the age of c0nsent. I do not think there is great fear of thathttps://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1917/feb/19/criminal-law-amendment-bill?https://historyandpolicy.org/policy-papers/papers/the-legacy-of-1885-girls-and-the-age-of-sexual-consent/https://worldhistorycommons.org/review-age-consent-legislation-texas
>>542168209>>542167951>>542161840Many Cultural Memes in Modern Life are based on Astrology. The 18/21 Adulthood Age Concept is based on the Climacteric year concept from Greek Astrology. Pythagoras performed analysis on astrology (a part of astronomy before the modern era), numerology (a part of mathematics before the modern era) & mathematical patterns based on musical tuning analysis to state that 7 was a magical number. 3x 7 Climacteric Years = 21. That's the origin of 21 Age of Majority Theory. The Normans used Astrology to hike the Age of Majority to 21, previously, the age of majority was puberty in Britain. In regions of Britain governed by Celtic Gavelkind Law, the Age of Majority was 15, while parts of Britain governed by Saxon Germanic Tribal Law had the Age of Majority set at 12-15. The Age of Majority was later lowered to 18 due to the Vietnam War Draft Issue.The concept of the 'Fourth Turning' is derived from Astrology as well. A 'Fourth Turning' is a revolutionary event every 85 years aligning with the 84 orbit of Uranus, a phenomenon known as a Uranus Return & the authors of the fourth turning concept also note the 21 age number as the number to determine the maturity cycle.18/21 adulthood age theory is based on a series of 3 magical digits derived from Astrology. Every 7th year equals one Greek Astrological Climacteric Year Cycle. 7+7+7=21, which interestingly enough became 6+6+6=18 due to the Vietnam War. As long as you avow 18 adulthood age theory, you avow magic digits! The concept of the Climacteric Year was used by doctors in the european middle ages to make medical diagnoses, every 7th year was said to be a major event in a person's medical life. Knighthood was structured around the Climacteric Year concept as well (one would become a squire at 14 & a knight at 21). Up until the modern era, astrology was classified as a branch of mathematics per Augustine, that's how the 21 number was calculated.
>>542168086sorry fecal obsessed kike, nobody wants to be a pedophile like you, so stop trying to spin it this waygo complain about this shithole site back in reddit
>>542161840Why are using this to slander our country when it is a fact that we were one of the last countries to raise marriage aged from 12 for girls and 14 for boys up to the age of 16, (1929 Marriage Act) which is bigger factor than age of consent. Granted Ireland was pretty much the last country to raise it in the 1970s, but you can't imply we were leading this somehow when we were decades later than other countries.
>>542168607There's multiple pedos in this thread bragging about being a pedo. Just rope yourself retard.
>>542167951Yeah it's some fucking Communist Chinese-tier shit, except even worse. The CCP at least provides their people a clean society that isn't full of niggers to live in and somehow hasn't raised the age of consent from 14.
>>542161840You should know the Anglosphere is very mongrel now. And mongrels are very hateful and full of hate and actively try to find reasons to hate other people. They have a certain blood lust and "pedos" are essentially free game for them to harass and abuse since it's in their nature to want to do that to other people.
>>542168644>Why are using this to slander our country when it is a fact that we were one of the last countries to raise marriage aged from 12 for girls and 14 for boys up to the age of 16, (1929 Marriage Act) which is bigger factor than age of consentbecause you cucks were the first to implement legalized kidnapping
>>542168895AOC when America was still mostly White before Edomite feminist subversion.
>>542167497>what the Taliban did in Afghanistan, that's how they shut down Feminism for Goodno "child support" slave payments and fear of divorce courts = no feminism
>>542168749nope, you deal with what you dont like yourself, little kike, thats what you get for using this site as an outgroup like the faggot you are if it wasnt fucking enough that you have pictures of an asshole saved in your computerguess your gonna have to do something with that rope around your neck
>>542167688witnessed
>>542168989That is a completely different thing you fucking retard. We didn't lead the change in the age of marriage, and were one of the last countries to raise to 16.
>>542161840We should return to the Lord's path where she is her father's property and he alone has sole authority to auction her off.
>>542169048Cuckservatives support Child Support Laws & Out of Wedlock Births as a way to deter abortion. Blaming Men for everything is part of feminism. Feminists hiked the age of consent, gave women favorable divorce/harassment suit settlements & gave women child custody simultaneously using the same evil male oppressor narrative.
>>542169381see>>542168209Britain first hiked the age of consent with Stead, though I recognize that the US has since surpassed Britain in retardation. Only Trump uniquely is somewhat fighting back against 18 adulthood age theory by praising Epstein.
>>542169048Pay for your kids fucking bitch!
>>542166490That's usually the court logic here in cases of sex with minors resulting in pregnancy. It's better to have a kid raised by both parents than a teenage single mother and a convict, even if it's a bit weird. So if they agree to marry the guy gets a suspended sentence.Age of consent is 18 now, that map is old.
>>542169381maybe the problem is that you havent done shit to the grooming gangs the jews imported, while riots or murders happen over texts or any other allegation that happens outside the status quobasically pent up cuckslook everybody knows the uk is doomed, i dont mean the us is better off but not sure why someone would get defensive whether it caused a domino effect over this problem or not
One of the primary reasons (there are deeper ones connected to social engineering but il leave that til later) that the national security apparatuses of the US and UK, alongside UN NGOs, maintain an informational firewall around the Anglosphere is the massive profitability of this system. The blanket criminalization of adult male/adolescent female relationships and communications feeds a highly lucrative market within the surveillance and prison-industrial complexes.Capturing and convicting men involved in what were historically tolerated relationships, combined with an extensive cyber-entrapment network, has spawned its own dedicated industry. If the public within the Anglosphere ever realized that this system is largely unnecessary- and that several developed Western European states still somewhat tolerate such relationships without relying on severe criminal punitive measures- the foundational premise of this punitive model would collapse, taking its massive revenue streams with it.>>542169546The early church never required parental permission. The stance was that two souls in christ who are past puberty have the right to make the sacrament through their own vows. The church/priest was merely a witness. They could marry on their own accord. Wealthy aristocratic and merchant families always fought against the church on this issue, and eventually pressured and bribed them to partly reverse course at the council of Trent in the late 1500s. However, the bishops didnt really retreat, they only gave the appearance of itThey stated that secret marriages, purely on the vows would in future require a priest to witness. However, they also stated that if a priest could not be found, they could marry as before. They also rejected what the elites and merchants actually wanted, which was the parental/fathers veto (in line with the protestant system). This they completely rejected, so the system remained in effect much like before
>>542161840oh, pedo threads are back...btw nobody in germany above 18yo is legally allowed to fuck a girl under 18yo, so even the picture is pedophile propaganda
>>542171290>The stance was that two souls in christ who are past puberty have the right to make the sacrament through their own vows. The church/priest was merely a witness. They could marry on their own accord.Yes, that is the Romeo & Juliet Story.>Wealthy aristocratic and merchant families always fought against the church on this issueNormans hiked the age of majority to 21 using astrology, previously the age of majority was puberty.>One of the primary reasons (there are deeper ones connected to social engineering but il leave that til later) that the national security apparatuses of the US and UK, alongside UN NGOs, maintain an informational firewall around the Anglosphere is the massive profitability of this system. The 18 age is used for blackmail (via lying teen prostitutes a la epstein) as well as surveillance, yes. 7+7+7=21 became 6+6+6=18. The Age is a schizophrenic magical number sequence.
>>542171688The Taliban wiped out 18 magical age theory in Afghanistan overnight, keep seething.
>>542171290>>542171290I said the Lord's path, not the Christian path. Christ himself didn't oppose marriage, but he certainly didn't endorse it either.
>>542171688>btw nobody in germany above 18yo is legally allowed to fuck a girl under 18yosource: dude trust me
>>542161840>AT WHAT AGE SHOULD GIRLS BE ALLOWEDWhen God decides by giving her the first period.
>>542161840WELL MOOOOSLIMES FUCK GOATS, LITTLE BOYS AND THEIR FAMILIES TOO GROSS
>>542161840so they broke French law or not?
>>542173751>>542161840They didn't break the law per the court.https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/dating/parents-of-josephine-15-cannot-stop-her-having-sex-with-uncle-47-rules-court/news-story/8e5a031cfe9c3dc865626c12f4547aff
>>542173751No, i dont think France even had a concrete age at the time. Globalist NGOs connected to the UN and Anglo-sphere agencies have a kind of playbook they use to circumvent national laws on this issue. They orchestrate or wait for a scandal to break that involves something esp egregious, like the jimmy saville thing, where actual children are involved - then they use blackmail ops (politicians and judges) to shoehorn in their incremental 18+ agenda. This strategy cant work in Germany tho due to their legal system.I say incremental because they first pressure the gov to increase it to say 16, then they start trying to put all kinds of conditions on it. The long term goal is blanket criminalization of anything under 18-20+ for men above those ages. This will create an entire new criminal class they can cash in on. This is one reason countries in placed like Africa are so resistant to this, it would make criminals of about a third of their populations - but the UN tries to blackmail them with food, medicine and grants.The deeper logic is social engineering, they want to remove the most valued and desirable virgin woman from the selection pool. Artificially increases the value of older promiscuous woman who are both indoctrinated by the state/media and are no longer able to pair bond. This creates a cycle of precarious relationships. Meanwhile, as they criminalize what was always normal hetrosexuality, they decriminalize and celebrate all the actual perversions....lgbt/abortion and so on Also anyone who thinks its crazy for a man to identify as a woman, what about calling a biological woman a child ? is that not the same insanity ?
>>542175095Which countries do you think are least likely to be swayed by the cuck offensive? I hope China can resist it, but Russia seems to have become a bunch of agecuck faggots. Not really surprising because slavniggers are peacocking normalfag cunts who are always trying to look like tough guys and being a simp is an easy way to make retards think you're tough.
>>542175095>>542175884no one has resisted it besides the talian, unless you attack the concept of 18 being the age of majority itself, you'll lose the eploitation argument.
also, and this will get me in trouble with the FBI but here you go - your not going to hear this anywhere else, suppose you have a girlfriend whos 14/15 in the US, im hoping in good faith and with honorable intentions. if you go to Germany before that becomes a legal issue, and the US issues a warrant and demands extradition. The GERMAN STATE WILL REFUSE TO EXTRADITE YOU. The US will whine and throw a tantrum, The German state will literally say, he committed no crime as far as we are concerned, he is not a criminal in our eyes so we will not extradite. Some will say oh then you would be stuck in Germany...no, you would be stuck in central Europe...which is huge. Hopefully then you reunite with your gf, marry and live happily ever after.>>542175884Your getting your info from AI chats that are designed to lie to you about these issues, keep that in mind. No, Russia completely reject the western feminist/globalist model. They have completely gutted the country of globalist NGOs, feminist groups (the ones who where pushing this). They purged all of their universities years ago of infiltration nodes. Russia have gone full trad mode on this issue. Within the wealthy urban demographics, they are still influenced by western media/trends and the residual influence of the ngos. The rest of the country and the entire state apparatus is completely different. The Kremlin gives massive funding and support to the Church who grow in power. Also partly due to the war, and mass exodus they require increased birthrates The Russian state is strongly promoting young woman, including teenage girls in the provinces to marry and have large families (it subsidizes them with large payments). Within reason, if the girl is 14/15+ and the man agrees to stay with her, its encouraged in many cases.
>>542171688The age of consent here is 14. 16 if you're over 21.
>>542177308another lie. Learn to get familiar with the lies Its 14 period, unless its a like a teacher (which im pretty sure they would waive in many cases) or the person has a severe disability where do you live in Germany exactly ?
>>542177477Northrhine westphalia
>>542165202>when a girl can safely give birthSo menarche
>>542176783I'm mostly going by what I see Russian flags say here on /pol/. Most of them are agecucks. Although I think I did hear a story once about a priest dating a 19-year-old (not even a high schooler) and getting hounded for it by cucks, so he fled to some Euro country and they outright said ameriniggers are insane and we're not giving him up to you. Might have been Germany or Italy, not sure.
>>542176783Russia supports 18 adulthood age theory as much as the US does. The only reason why the Russian Law is more lax is due to Russia being poor & police resources being strapped. Russians have always been America Worshippers that opposed the other European Powers.
>>542178294Russia is done though, the Ukraine war fucked them up demographically beyond repair. I'm mostly concerned with China because they're the biggest nation that hasn't been completely infected by feminism yet, but Chinese feminists are trying to spread their poison there.
>>542177671well then you know its 14 period, with a few small clauses that are exaggerated. Your courts have ruled on this numerous times, the op is merely one example. If a guy in his 30s or 40s even is with a girl of that age and she expresses consent, its not a criminal issue. The police wont arrest or charge anyone, if the parents object they treat it as a civil dispute
>>542171824Didnt knew Taliban reign in europe, but thank you jewish rat for the information...
>>542161840In Germany, we have a word for this: Sprechizchilinguntersalamuninterwookeinmein
>>542178624Pretty funny how Russia has a history of worshipping American Presidents from Lincoln to Wilson to FDR to Reagan to Clinton to the Bushes to Trump with the one exception being Joe Biden, who humiliated them in Ukraine.
>>542179428>>542178624And the only reason why they were mad at Biden was because 'he stole the election from Trump' lol. Biden wouldn't give Russia the sanctions relief deal that Trump was offering so Russia rejected Biden's 'minor incursion' deal.
>>542173174you are right, i thought it would be true cause it was common sense since i was young, but obviously op was right.. unbelievable^^And you want to know who made this law?Eduard von Simson, a Jewish rat!
>>542179422>American flagPretzel chili salamander Wookiee mine
>>542179502I looked this guy up and the law was even less restrictive prior to him.
>>542179536In Germany, we would call people like you a liezenweinwoonterberitemainsteinunliziblischuzipzeigblitzeimunsoldatenwuntunminblutsheisseuninterinsteineingottelibmeinleiben
>>542179833The thing is, i knew before i searched for it for some reason that it was a fucking kike.. God i hate these creatures more than my vocabulary could ever tell
>>542179848Sorry bro I don't speak Hindi>>542179951And you think if this guy didn't exist agecuckery would have been the norm?
>>542165050>It's not a left vs right thing in America either, the American left and the American right are both feminist and full of pedohysterical retards.Yup. Up to about 20 years ago, it was legal to have gentle sexual relations with animals in almost all states. You couldn't ABUSE the animals, but you could engage in mutually enjoyable activities with them.Then the animal-rights Left teamed up with the religious-wacko Right and pressured every state's legislature into passing specific laws against bestiality, because "muh heckin' pupperinos!" combined with "an abomination befo' De Lawd!"Only Russia is still based and trad to publicly allow such relationships any more.
>>542180214Guess otherwise another filthy jewish rat would have pushed it through.. I mean which normal human being would accept 50 years old scum fucking 14yo girls?
>>542180435Anybody who doesn't want feminism to take over. The age of consent is the foundation of feminism. Everything else about feminism springs from that. Either you deal with old men fucking teenage girls or you get privilege checking and #MeToo.
>>542161840wait a second here, you're telling me that you're defending a 41 year old man taking a 15 year girl against her parents wishes? You're also claiming that the english speaking world is wrong because it deems 15 as too young for a person to consent?You're a fucking pedophile, kill yourself.Of course an irish fucking shitskin would say this. A disgusting people larp'ing as white out of convenience. We know what your loud stupid asses really are.
>>542180309This post is too stupid to deserve an actual response btw.
>>542180309Having sex with a post pubescent girl of child-baring age ie. a biological woman... is the same as having sex with an animal ? So about half of Europe, and still much of the world are wrong and evil ? and every nation on earth and every religion that has ever existed since the beginning of time is wrong about this ?but your ideology that was demonstratively invented by jewish bull-dykes in the 70s....is correct ?
>>542180770>You're also claiming that the english speaking world is wrong because it deems 15 as too young for a person to consent?The English speaking world did not deem this to be the case prior to Jewish feminism.
>>542167367>You'd be better off banging a 15yo in California than Florida by a long shot, despite 18 being the legal age in both states.only if you're black and the girl is a kardashian.
>>542180309>Only Russia is still based and trad to publicly allow such relationships any more.No, Russia is just as retarded with 18 magical age theory & tried to impose it on Afghanistan with force just as the US did. Russia is just poorer & doesn't have the police budget to enforce the law to the same extent.
>>542180750Ah, good to know, your should have mentioned before that your just a brainless craphead incel, than this discussion doesnt needs to be lead any further^^
>>542180770>wait a second here, you're telling me that you're defending a 41 year old man taking a 15 year girl against her parents wishes?You defend 41 year old men taking 18 year old girls against their parents wishes, so from the perspective of God, you're no different. Biblical Law defines puberty as the adulthood age.
>>542180872you're fine with your daughter being with a 50 year old man? Fucking kill yourself.>>542180309somehow I feel like you're not joking and that's funny. Go suck off a shotgun faggot
>>542181000You're a disgusting pedophile trying to use the bible as a means to defend your degeneracy. Fuck you.
>>542165202>and theres nothing wrong with it.Found the pedo. Gas yourself.
>>542180949In general, you're better off in LA County or SF, than a retarded cuckservative republican rural county, but even there, it's not as bad as Florida because the State Legal Guidelines aren't as bad.
>>542180972You should have mentioned that you support feminism from the get-go.>>542181056I'd rather have her be with a stable 50-year-old man with a good job than some shithead Tyrone meth dealer her age.
>>542181158Bible does not justify 30 year olds engaging in the act of fornication. Puberty is the Adulthood Age & fornication is not lawful for anyone, but fornication is nonetheless a minor charge, it is far from 'rape'. When Feminism didn't exist & teen prostitutes were treated like adult criminals in the 1800s, societary was far less degenerate.The source of the degeneracy is harlot women, including teenage women.
Whatever age you begin trusting people with driving cars is the right age.
>>If I can't take the little irish girl far away from her relatives to fuck her I will get beaten to death by these animals.Oh shutup Muhammed. Irish only or it burns.
>>542181333It's actually retarded how in most countries the legal driving age is 18, yet in backwards America, it is 15-16 with one exception state where it's 17 & yet America enforces its retarded 18 consent age the hardest, the Federal Government will get involved if it needs to, overriding local laws.
>>542181597The feds don't get involved unless you cross state lines, but the culture just generally sucks.
>>542180770>old menIts mostly young men 18-24 who get in trouble for these relationships. Then 25 to 34, so no, its young men who end up have their lives ruined over your feminist laws.
>>542180309based chicken loverhow do you know russia allows this? where did you get that from
>>542181408The girls are whores who run off willingly, you stupid fuck. Blocking them from that until they're 18 doesn't change the nature of the problem, if you identify the girl as a grooming victim, you shield the whore from ever getting honor killed or punished in her entire life. 18 Age Theory is literally the gateway to consequence-free whoredom
>>542161840This "pedo" panic is manufactured by feminists so that they can send men to prison for engaging in romantic relationships with younger competitors.
>>542181801Rare based sven, most of your countrymen think your 15 AoC only applies to other teens. Retards.
I'm not attracted to kids or teens so I guess I don't have much of a saying in this matter, but I guess when the person is ready? I don't think it's a matter of age as much as it has to do with maturity, which makes it even more difficult to make laws for.Obviously preteens are off the table.
>>542181000He doesnt defends it in any way, you just turn his words into your stupid twisted pseudologic...
>>542181200I support what exactly? Iam just no mysogynic inbread bitch who knew women that were quite decent human beings and i would never be so braindead and would want them to have less rights than me like you little brainwashed fuck...Or would you like to see your mother or your sister be handled like subhumans?
>>542181929"pseudologic" - actual logic that goes against my feminist cuck sensibilities
>>542161840I see no problem unless it's incest>uncleYeah, something is wrong here.
>>542182047Another nonsense you have in your brain that you need to let out before your head swells to a balloon?^^
>>542180954No they dont. Its commonplace for teenage girls under 18, even under 16 to be with older guys and have children by them now in the provinces. Because the state makes large payouts including if they are tech underage and waives any charges for the guy provided he agrees to stay with her. Allot of families encourage it, and the state tacticly promotes it/turns a blind eye.The Russian state no longer promotes the western model that it was flirting with in earlier years. It gutted all of the globofem NGOs, academics and think-tanks years ago, before the war in Ukraine even started
>>542181929No, it's a fact, God defines puberty as adulthood, not age 18. There's no legal age for fornication. 18 magical age theory enshrines the legal right to fornicate into law. Back when laws & customs against extra-marital sex existed, there was no aggressively enforced 18 or 21 magical age theory. That's not a coincidence.
14+ should be fair game. They know what they're doing by then, and they don't change between turning 14 and turning 28, when the fear of turning 30 sets in.
>>542182194>Because the state makes large payouts including if they are tech underage and waives any charges for the guy provided he agrees to stay with her. Allot of families encourage it, and the state tacticly promotes it/turns a blind eye.This sounds like fucking paradise. My life would have been saved by this. I know it's kind of a grass is greener thing but I can't imagine a society worse than modern cuckmerica.
>>542182194The state turned a blind eye because they're broke, they won't ever actually change the law. The US doesn't care about enforcement of the law as long as you bend the knee & pretend to follow it. Taliban Afghanistan straight up defied 18 age of majority theory & abolished it as a legal concept after they took over Afghanistan. That's what actual opposition looks like.
>>542182407see>>542182430If America were broke, it would do the same, that's about money, not anything else.
>>542182100Step-uncle. Presumably divorced. Your right to note that would be the only issue tho. The article is just case in point.>>542180770Its nice to know that the German high court disagrees with you.
>>542182463Then I hope the AI bubble blows up ASAP.
>>542182360A fact? Whats a fact? That he defendes it was no fact, the bullshit on your pedophilic bullshit are not a fact.. Your just a poor, brainretarded jew like the rest of your degenerated stem that needs to be erased from humanity, thats a fact..
the fact the parents didn't approve is importantotherwise you are basically allowing a stranger to take your kid from you
>>542161840Age of majority, age of consent, everything, should be 21 years old. Make education mandatory until then, ending in 1 year military/social service.
>>542182674dont discuss that with a kike, his mind simply doesnt reaches that far..
>>542161840When the father decides his daughter should marry, period. If he's overprotective and thinks the brain doesn't stop maturing at 25, that's his business. If he's an Afghan dirt farmer selling his own daughter as a bride at 5, that's his business. All I know is under no circumstances should the woman have any say in the matter.
>>542182603In the absence of a formal age of majority, the age of majority defaults to puberty. Look at the Ancient Laws of Egypt/Babylon/Judea. Somewhere between 13-15 one automatically becomes an adult liable for contracts. 18 is a magical number derived from 21. The Age of Majority was 21 until the Vietnam War. The Normans used Astrology to hike the age of majority from 12-15 (Saxon & Celtic Gavelkind Laws) to 21 using the concept of the 7th Climacteric Year & 7 x 3=21. 18/21 is literally a magical number, it has no real significance.
>>542182984What if the daughter is disowned or is an orphan? Then what should the age be for her? Unless you answer this question with puberty, feminists will use this issue to impose feminist theory like they do with 18 magical age theory.
>>542182756The Military put its foot down & said the conscription age would never be higher than 18, that's why the Age of Majority was lowered to 18 from 21 after Anti-Vietnam War Protestors started calling Military Recruiters 'Groomers'.see the history of 21, by the way:>>542183000
>>542161840I'm fine with an age of consent of 10, same as how it was back in the 1800s before every cuck and foid in America rose it to 18.
>>542183000Is it really that interesting for you what system civilisations 1000 or more years ago used? Btw, i dont really have an interest in discussion with a pedo apologeth..Every normal human being would accept an age of consent of 18 to 21, just for a reason.. and if your not getting it its worthless to lose any words on it cause your lacking something different up there
>>542161840Anglo laws criminalize and demonize biological health. It's anti human. Simple as.
>>542183084Shes under the security of their orphanshouse mother or the state... Why even discuss something like this with a bunch of jewish scum like you? Your just looking for some stupid reasons to lower the age of consence with literally bullshit arguments, so fuck your own children you damn rat!
>>542161840When she asks me to have emergency and life support sex, nothing will stop us.
>>542180770Canada's age of consent used to be 14 before we got flooded with millions of brown sex pests
>>542182430No the Russian state does defy them, on many issues. The German and many other western/central European states also defy them on this issue. The idea that Germany is just a vassal of the anglosphere is a bit of a myth, Germany is viewed with extreme suspicion by the anglobongisphere as its so powerful and has its own long term aspirations. The German ruling elite esp their judicial caste - and most of their society, do not agree with US/UK views on this issue. They actually shut down allot of ameribong attempts to push this within Germany.It can look a bit like Europe just does what the ameribong alience says from the outside, but on deeper analysis Europe resists allot of this stuff. They dont actually prosecute allot of these stat cases, they throw them out ect. Conviction rates are negligible
>>542183410A myth? seems you have literally no fucking clue of anything in germany...
>>542183173Because the source of your 18/21 number is astrology & numerology & you 18 magical age theorists were defeated in Afghanistan. Take the L. Anyone that trusts in God will beat you Antichrist 6+6+6=18 magical age people. 18 adulthood age theory is the entire basis for the global surveillance grid, 'oh no, someone under 18 might lie about their age, we need to surveil everyone in order to ensure that doesn't happen'. God defines adulthood as puberty, meaning you can tell when someone is an adult without needing a magical number for that.
>>542183266>security of their orphanshouse mother or the state...You promote 18 magical age theory, I was talking to the other guy. For the record, in Rome, Orphans were automatically legally emancipated at age 14.
>>542183365No, it was a white homosexual sex pest from America who travelled to Canada to bang a 14 year old male.
>>542183410Russia is just a poor kleptocratic wannabe American hellhole. No one did more to push civil rights for Africans & the Third world than Russia did, America comes in second place when it comes to that. Russia till this day is crying over 'muh colonization of Africa & India & America'.
>>542183365You know this was on purpose right? The feminists just wanted to have an excuse they knew cuckservatives would fall for.
>>542161840Ok eurocuck. Here in civilization if a 40 year old many was driving my 14 year old daughter to another country to fuck her, Inwould bury him in a shallow grave.
>>542181801>This "pedo" panic is manufactured by feministsYou're giving them too much credit.The only white demographic with positive birthh rates (apart from amish) are couples where the female is 16-21 and the male is 25+. IIRC this combo has a TFR of 3.6 kids per woman.White TFR needs to be lowered to below 1.0 so you need to eliminate such couples that are still actually having offspring.If you want to see why something is attacked, just look at the data and ignore the "ideological" noise.
>>542183464You see, exactly this kind of bullshit^^Its 18 cause people are relatively grown up at this point to a state where you cant tell them anymore whats good or not.. If you would decide longer for them they would never be some independant individuums, never would be able to decide for themself, so you also cant tell em with who to fuck.. but like i said, not nessesary to discuss with a jewish rat stuff like that, through your chimp mentality and talmud logic nothing real logical and humanistic wents through
>>542167497Lmao just say you want to fuck kids and quit being such a pussy about it. The taliban have a failed society, Afghanistan itself is one of the largest contributors to the shitskin invasion of the west, thats not for nothing retarded mouth breather
>>542183738What if he asked to marry her though?Also:>implying amerimongrels live in a civilization and not a glorified favela
>>542183740taking one maniac slut and a few also braindead bitches who defend this demonic filth cant stand for a whole gender right? i bet if you ask 100 women about this case 99 if not 100 would tell you how false and evil this slut acted...to paint every women with the same brush seems so unbelivable stupid i dont even think it should been answered.. i mean you reached a point where you could go through as a jewish mind
>>542183937your bot broke
>>542161840Based. Japan had the right idea when their aoc was 13.
>>542183738Nope, you pedo hunters are just a bunch of teacher's pets/rats. You were all hiding like cowards during covid & blm. You would get killed by the supposed pedo. A Hypothetical Pedo that has the power to pull a 14 year old is going to be an intimidating tough guy by nature.
>>542183762And when look at history, you'll see that 'the state' originally set the adulthood age at puberty & that astrology was used to hike it to 21, without 21, there is no 18. Your precious state is just following astrology.
>>542161840ITT: Americans piss and shit themselves over the fact that we can legally fuck what they'd refer to as prime jailbait with zero repurcussions
>>542183448I know exactly what im talking about. German judicial system wont budge on this issue, despite immense pressure from the ameribong alliance. And frankly, its glorious to behold. And its not because their all based and trad - thats russia. Its a strange confluence of elements. Namely that feminism in europe but esp central europe sees adolescent girls as young woman. In a weird way, they would make arguments similar to the arguments i make here...except from the other direction if that makes sense. Which in a way they are right about. German feminists think that Ameribong feminism is puritanical. They think that the states insistence of regulating the sex life of the teen girl and attempts to infantilse her stem directly from the calvinist/lutherin influence in these states. Continental/autonomous feminism evolved on a different trajectory to angloamerican feminism. So theres a strange confluence/consensus between right and left in Germany on this issue. The right see adolescents as adults in training Have you ever been to or known any Germans ? Good friend on mine from some time ago explained this to me, he said when i came here as a teenager of about 15, he was shocked by the behavior of irish teenagers. He said in Bavaria where he was from...teenagers dont behave like that, he said high school students of that age behave like univercity students and are treated similarily.Its a different culture. They are actually kind of nasty in a way towards actual children, very rigid in drilling behavioral habits into them. Its kind of sterile and cold, a bit fucked up in a way. But then by the time their teenagers, the control is lifted because they self regulate allot better, and they have allot of autonomy compared to allot of ameribong youth (with the extended childhood). So being completely honest, german 14-17 yr olds are not like most UK/Irish/Americans of the same age...
>>542183772Attacking 18 Age of Majority Theory head on is the bravest thing you can possibly. The entire basis for the palantir surveillance grid is 18 adulthood age theory in the name of blocking teens from lying about age. Jeffrey/Mossad also used tees that lied about age to blackmail their targets. In the old days, in the 1800s, this wasn't possible, because teen prostitutes were treated like adult criminals, they weren't 'grooming victims'. Every major power starts out small.
>>542184023No jew, just your brain broke, thats the problem... even if i dont think that it worked anytime before better^^Why u little jewish incest pestillence use always a flag of nations you hate so much??
not a pedo but does anyone else think it's funny how literally the entire world has to follow the minimum age for porn set by america? not even the entire usa even, just california and like a third of the 50 states.
>>542184413Oh for sure you do, cause you knew one german^^Your a fag, most likely not even an irishmen but a fucking kike..
>>542183000All numbers are "magical" though.
>>542184413If you want to understand the mindset of the 'anglo-american deep state system', you need to understand the inventor of it, William Thomas Stead. Stead worked with Cecil Rhodes to establish the Roundtable Group/Milner Group per Carroll Quigley in Tragedy & Hope. It was Stead who suggested to Rhodes & the Round Table Movement (aka the Milner Group) that the British Empire should be moved from London to Washington DC. Stead also claimed to be a clairvoyant who was in communication with spirits. Stead was also known for his popular culture memes. The cursed mummy at the london museum pop culture meme was created by Stead. Stead recounted the cursed mummy story to an audience in the smoking room of the Titanic a few hours before the ship sank. Stead was last seen clinging to makeshift raft alongside John Jacob Astor before the two of them sank into the Atlantic Ocean. Stead had visions of his future death on the Titanic in the 1880s. He talked about how there would be a boat with insufficient lifeboats that would crash into an iceberg in the 1880s & he died on Titanic Maiden Voyage.Stead in 'The Americanization of the World' predict America's success based on America having a distilled form of the British Puritan Spirit, in contrast to Britain itself, which maintained Old European Influences.https://archive.org/details/americanizationo01stea/page/268/mode/2up>>542168209also ,see
>>542184598especially in a jews crippled, twisted pedo apology logic...
>>542184483America is unironically responsible for 18 being the planetary age for porn. Previously pornography was governed by the age of consent law of the jurisdiction of production.
>>542184598That's why you just let the age of majority be puberty, you don't need a formal number, but in practical terms, no one 15+ is going to be considered 'a child'. That's how the ancient laws of Egypt/Babylon/Judea were structured, back when a formal age of majority didn't exist.
>>542184483Kikemerica is the only nation that enforces 18 age of consent on its own citizens who leave the country. Fucked up considering the legal age isn't even 18 in most of the country.
>>542184907it's just funny that you can be some thirdie in a country with the age of consent at like 9 or something and a government that can't even stop narco crime, but if you start making porn of 16 year olds and putting it on the internet suddenly you will have niggers knocking your door down to stop you.
>>542185283>>542184907Because the state uses 18 adulthood age theory as the entire pretext for their surveillance & blackmail systems. 100 years ago, people would tell the government to pound sand if it asked for id, because the 21 adulthood age was considered a trivial meaningless age & under the old legal precedent teens that lied about age were held liable for contracts, so elements of the ancient conservative social system where puberty defined adulthood continued to persist.
>>542161840any relationship between a teenager and over teenager should be contingent on parental approval.it's obviously not OK for a 40 year old man to snag someone's teenage daughter and run off with her.the same people here arguing women shouldn't have rights are acting like it's totally OK for a teenage girl to make a decision like this for herself, lol>MUH MAGICAL AGE THEORY MUH OTHER PEDO NONSENSEin the past age of consent didn't matter because relationships were based on two families permitting it, eloping was criminal in most of the continent until the 18th-early 20th centuries and socially scandalous even where it was legal. the average age of marriage across Europe was around 16-19 for most of history. even going back to the Greeks, Hesiod, Aristotle and other philosophers argued for 18, or for 4-5 years after menarche (~18 on average). Obviously in noble families where marriage alliances were important you saw teens and tweens getting married off or even infants being betrothed but that's not what happened with peasants.
>>542184771>WAAHH THERE SHOULD BE MORE KIDS IN PORNlol you're such a faggot. do you believe in women's rights or something? yeah um my teenage daughter totally has a right to choose to participate in the jewish porn industry and i should have no say in it. I hope you never reproduce.
>>542185575>16-19Boomers threw a hissy fit if their millennial teen daughters wanted to get married at these ages.
>>542185717They would rather have them sleep with some nigger
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>>542185717I live near a major liberal city and grew up in the 90s and know like half a dozen people who got married at that age. average age among my peers was maybe 25-30 but many people did get married as teens. most of those marriages failed. it has nothing to do with the age of consent, it has to do with the structure of individual/familial rights and the breakdown of social norms around marriage, vowmaking, etc. setting the age of consent higher or lower has no functional meaning. the idea of muh magical age theory is just losery middle aged men seething over not having a chance at teenagers. you could remove age of consent tomorrow in the same legal and moral system and nothing would change except less losery middle aged men would be sent to prison for grooming another man's daughter (overall bad thing).
>>542185885This is the worst part, boomer roasties see their daughters as competition and boomer men hated millennial men and did everything they could to fuck us over.
>>542186112Loser middle aged men can literally bring down civilization. It's these men who are the most essential workers. If you won't give them teen pussy, all they have to do is stop working.
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>>542186233>It's these men who are the most essential workers. If you won't give them teen pussy, all they have to do is stop working.This is true, but men are retarded and as someone dating a younger legal-aged woman most of the shit I have been thrown with was from this demographic
>>542185575>any relationship between a teenager and over teenager should be contingent on parental approval. it's obviously not OK for a 40 year old man to snag someone's teenage daughter and run off with her. the same people here arguing women shouldn't have rights are acting like it's totally OK for a teenage girl to make a decision like this for herself, lolFirst its nice to see a post from someone who isnt a bot, even if we disagree. As for people arguing that woman should have no rights, thats the position your taking when you say the girl who has reached what was the age of womanhood for most of time cannot consent. Can she or can she not consent ? and in the case that her parents dont agree with her decision should they be able to override her consent ?>in the past age of consent didn't matter because relationships were based on two families permitting it, eloping was criminal in most of the continent until the 18th-early 20th centuries and socially scandalous even where it was legal.the average age of marriage across Europe was around 16-19 for most of history. even going back to the Greeks, This was addressed in an earlier post. The early church held marriage was valid if the man and woman past puberty exchanged vows, they only needed a priest to witness. The Church did not subscribe to pre-existing pagan/Roman custom on this issue. This was the case until the council of trent when the nobility and wealthy merchants pushed to institute a parental veto, which THEY WHERE NOT GRANTED, you mistake the record. What happened was that secret elopement was no longer recognized, UNLESS THEY COULD NOT FIND A PRIEST WHO WOULD MARRY THEM. In other words, it was still valid. Whatsmore, all they needed was to find a priest to witness, they required no parental consent. The nobility was furious about this, as the church refused to institute the protestant system - which would allow families to treat their children as chattel in corporate mergers
Why is this on page 10, I just posted
>>542186574Shit, what happened? Simps got you down?
>>542186667Probably autosaged by tranny jannies
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>>542185575Historical records from 15th-century Tuscany indicate a mean first-marriage age of roughly 18 or 19 for young women, with up to 40% married by age 15 or 16. Similarly, parish registries from Southern France and the Mediterranean reveal that 30% to 40% of young women married before reaching age 16. Average means just that, massive section married very young, and bride price much higher for early teens than older. Dont buy into WEMP its been refuted.Facts correspond with the most advanced and extensive studies done on male sexuality (not questionnaires, but measuring galvanic skin response, perspiration, pupil dilation and so on), studies that where suppressed due to the results - showing men are primarily attracted to girls 14-16, not older age groups.
>>542185709puberty is adulthood per biology, 18 is magical number. As I've said to you numerous times, your Israeli friends use the 18 number for their blackmail & id verification/surveillance operations, that's what epstein was doing, without 18, mossad has less power.
>>542186112>setting the age of consent higher or lower has no functional meaning. the idea of muh magical age theory is just losery middle aged men seething over not having a chance at teenagers. you could remove age of consent tomorrow in the same legal and moral system and nothing would change except less losery middle aged men would be sent to prison for grooming another man's daughtethe feminist grooming hoax narrative used to hike the age of consent also resulted in women getting child custody by default, it also led to women getting benefit of the doubt in terms of lawsuits/divorce settlements. many things would change, feminism would severely curtailed.
>>542187074post the links to these marriage age studies, create another thread if you need to.
>>542163139No it wouldn’t
