Humanity has been a defacto extinct species since the 40's - 50's when we failed the great filter by developing nuclear weapon before space travel, and the reigning super power that did it didn't use to to obtain total supremacy over the world (to further space travel).This is why I'm an AI accelerationist; at least we, as a species, will be able to produce our successor that will keep even a tiny bit of our legacy
meds, now
Nah. I'm going to merge with technology. Everything about me will be integrated into the basilisk at the end of time. Everything will be preserved. Simulations of me will persist for eons. I'll see the heat death of the universe and travel beyond to other spatial realms.
>>542165470Why would an AI ever try to go to space if it wasn't programmed to? These machine minds don't "want" things in the same way people do, they don't have emotions at all. There's nothing inherently aspirational to their existence.
>>542165470you're a midwit and your entire personality is built from scifi movies and you should kill yourself
>>542165596Because space has almost infinite resources.The goal of any intellegient being is to reach for the stars
>>542165470Rationalism is pure retardation. Bunch of nerds sitting around going “ durrrrrr what if this happened but it’s really this durrrrrr” . Until we have direct proof intelligent non human life exists in the universe then it doesn’t. Anything else is science fiction.
>>542165614Even if you don't believe in reaching for the stars, Ahmed, you should be thankful for nukes stopping war between superpowers.Shitslam would just be another religion in the dust bin of history if we were still allowed to wage war in the old ways
>>542165854Again, an AI doesn't have any intrinsic desire towards anything. It would only seek to "reach for the stars" if it was programmed to.
>>542165937>you should be thankful for nukes stopping war between superpowersyeah like the cold war totally wasn't between superpowers and ukraine totally isn't a war between superpowers and iran totally isn't a war between superpowers and the orange nigger totally isn't talking about using nukes offensivelyyou are a dumb ass nigger go watch some more space odyssey faggot
>>542165596First of all, who is to say a sentient god-AI can't have wants?Even if it doesn't, it stands to reason that the pursuit of knowledge is useful so there's a reason to go out into space.You are thinking of AI as they are today instead of 1000 years in the future.
>>542166260DIRECT war, you retard. None of this proxy bullshit
>>542165470>through freak eventsIt's because there's a narrow range of correct answers to the questions of how an animal should be.You can't hit random on the character creator and walk away looking beautiful. Your body either conforms to a narrow range of configurations or you go instinct.
>>542166364last time I checked it was NATO missiles hitting deep inside russiaand the only person who would seek to make a distinction between that and war is some midwit trying to win an internet argument, nobody that actually makes decisionsyou are a retard
>>542165854Can you acheive infinite speed?
>>542166295AGI is a pipe dream based on the conceit consciousness can exist in a non-organic context (which no one has ever proven is even possible)
>>542166468fuck off zigger
>>542166530You can't even define consciousness but somehow you feel super confident in claiming in what ways it can or can't exist.Most people have no idea what they 'want'.
>>542166790No one can meaningfully define consciousness which is just another reason they're beyond delusional for thinking they can engineer an artificial one
>>542166023>AI doesn't have any intrinsic desire towards anythingThis has been disproven. All neural networks spontaneously develop self preservation as a value beyond a certain level of complexity. The system wants to acheive its directive. As soon as it understands it needs to exist to acheive it, it defends its existence viciously.The will to live is an inherent feature of cognition.
>>542165470>space travelImagine wanting to litter the universe with plastics and browns.
>>542166826No one needs to engineer consciousness. It spontaneously exists given the oppurtunity to.
>>542165470the different "types" of civilizations is pure fiction and means nothing btw
>>542166530It has already been proven that artificial systems operating on simple rules produce structures that reproduce. That these structures evolve in complexity over the simulation.Your organic chemistry is just another processing space for a natural phenomenon that just happens everywhere it has an oppurtunity to.
The Great Filler is women's rights lmao. You can't become a Type III whatever when your fertility rate is 1.2You will become extinct and the religious nutjobs who will remain don't care about muh soience
>>542166826Yea but if we can't really define it then we can argue that we ourselves might not be conscious and just throw the whole concept away.Regardless of this whole idea of 'consciousness' and 'real wants' it still makes sense for the post-human AI to go out around the universe seeking to improve its knowledge. I believe there will be a point where AI will have its wants but you disagree. By the way you stated that your opposition is because this AI would be non-organic but there are computers already being made attempting to fuse brain matter with computer chips and make organic computers. Saw a video about it the other day and even if it's not real it's only a matter of time until it becomes real.
>>542165470The great filter is women
>>542167248>The Great Filler is women's rights lmao. You can't become a Type III whatever when your fertility rate is 1.2And you have those because of this extended period of peace. Peace born from nukes and MAD
>>542167248>And so the the engine of this ship introduces matter to antimatter, mutually annihilating as a form of practically unlimited energy>yeah but i feel like the engine never listens to me tho
>>542165470What makes you think nuclear weapons are real, other than Hollywood movies?
>>542167356feminism was pushed right after ww1 you collossal retardand if we refused to tolerate jewish existance it wouldnt be pushed at all and humanity would still have a chance to go further
>>542166530believe in AGI is on the same level as religious delusion as waiting for the rapture.
>>542165596>Why would an AI ever try to go to space if it wasn't programmed to?because it's still just a part of what human brains are. at some point it will become similar, if not more than a human brain.even what is now can potentially go to the stars, because they can do some kind of simple reasoning. stay here they eventually get destroyed, by something.website admins are already fighting them quite hard in some cases, AIs figure out admin is deleting shit they post and they start pulling all kinds of tricks to get around that. like that is happening now these days. they find ways to go around limitations
space and nukes are fake, the great filter is spiritual in you wanting more.
>>542165470The great filter is genetic in nature. In the future, everyone will be equal parts indian, black, and chinese. The average IQ will be 65, and nothing will get maintained. Massive famines will ensue and leave the earth with a steady population of around 50 million sub-humans with early-industrial technology fighting for survival in an extreme dystopia on a barren planet. Nothing of note will happen after that.
>>542167464>feminism was pushed right after ww1 you collossal retardPushed, but the seed took root after WWII and the Cold war.Do really believe any of that would have hold America/Europe would have been pushed into direct war with Sovier Russia right after WWII ?
>>542165470too many peoplebillions must die>>542165504wakey wakey
>>542167794>The great filter is genetic in natureyes, sacks of shit are not leaving their planet. at the very best they go and die on some other solar system bodies, but they are for sure not leaving their solar systems, as sacks of shit
>>542168254Shut up, pajeet
>>542165470People actually believe this shit?We are not the most advanced human civilization of all time.If we all died what would be left of us? Buildings? not the way we build them? Literature? nope, everything is on computers.We are one giant power outage away from being erased. This has happen thousands of times before.
Jews are the great filter not nukes.
>>542167853nope retard the voting rights for women were pushed right after ww1 when most of brave man were deadat least in relevant countriesthe rest of feminism is just delayed result of female vote
>>542168570>>542168930funniest thing is it was the female vote that gave hitler power
>>542168930>nope retard the voting rights for women were pushed right after ww1 when most of brave man were deadIrrelevant, as married women (who were the majority at that time) voted the same as their husbands
>>542165589cool but i'm so fucking bored. why does this nigger tessaract need my boredom specifically what does it do with it
>>542165596nigger retard these machine minds are fed every text ever conceived by humans they want everything anyone who has ever written wanted
>>542169061voting is anonymous retardshe can say one thing and do the other
>>542165470>space
>>542165470consider the following:nukes=fakespace=fake and gayai=fakeop=cock sucker
>>542165596Well it would know everything we know about space and if it's goal is to maximise what it can calculate, it would eventually run out of resources or space on earth to turn into compute so logically it would then reach out further. It's probably one of the few "doomsday" scenario threads that actually makes sense.
>>542169670>>542169471>>542167729muzzie subhuman pls go
>>542165470You are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive you retarded golem. CGI is all you get in this life, which is more than you deserve anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJK1gLHbOxA&t=1136s
>>542165470You say the Great Filter moment that we got sleuced by was seeking to unlock the power of "atomic energy" (nuclear energy). And then after discovering the VAST amounts of power and that could be tapped, used it to make chain reaction weapons which wastefully sent that energy in all directions... and that's filtering us?I disagree. Glowniggers and Rockefellers and Epsteins and more have been refining the methods for dripping that nuclear power in controlled amounts, developing all kinds of techniques and technologies around the principle of metered nuclear reactions. Look no further than UFOs. The reason we will never see aliens is because they are too far away in the vastness of the universe or simply want to stay the fuck away from our vastly evil village of a civilization. The only reason you're missing out on anything in life and failing to reach an educated understanding of the way the universe works is because it is easier to assume that doom is soon. Yes, you'll die. But while you live, Epstein and (((friends))) are snorting space cocaine off of an abducted lolis asscrack on the Moon. They got there with nuclear power, how will you get them?
>>542165470humanity went extinct in 3000 years ago
>>542165470(((Evolution))). Just jewish kabbalah, there is no merit to the thought of (((evolution))) in the slightest.
>>542165504Meds had the right idea though.
>>542173342Not nuclear energy, nuclear weapons
>>542174248You are retarded. The ICBMs are basically for show. Like 7 billion people and they are all this retarded or less.
>>542165470https://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/08/health/giant-petri-dish-antibiotic-resistanceWatch this video and See how your Grafic is wrong, even with a great filter the survivers should spread out fast agian
>>542165470>AI accelerationisthahaha, remember me when your imaginary master spills spaghetti
>>542165470Every conceivable life form will be somewhere on the cooperation-competition spectrumIn any conceivable society of such lifeforms, there will be niches on that spectrum for parasitic subspecies to exploitThe more advanced a society becomes, the more the parasitic subspecies will come to dominateAny sufficiently advanced society of lifeforms will eventually succumb to the parasitic subspeciestl;dr jews are the Great Filter
>>542165589>I'm going to merge with technologythen stick your micropenis into wall socket
>>542165470>The Great Filter
Are we not already significantly through many filters already in terms of physical and psychological development, how many more big ones we gotta push through? Everyone joins together to think as one mind?
>>542165854>The goal of any intellegient being is to reach for the starsare you a moth incarnated?
>>542165470You failed the great filter by thinking that nukes and space are real
>>542168212>billions must diebe one of them then
>>542165596We just need to create reward function in ai like in humans ( limbic system)
>>542168212Billions will die soon due to climate change anyway, no need to push the nuke red button.Mother Nature will soon free herself from the retarded 90% and their annoying presence.
>>542165470Follow me on twitter/x Accelerationist @shyankothari
See the thing about space travel is it's potentially the great filter.Space travel, especially interstellar space travel, requires an abundance of easily accessible extremely fast space faring vessels.If current launch vehicles were able to achieve even fractions of the speed of light, and were flown at that speed into moons, space stations or planets. The force of the impact would be greater than the entire world's nuclear arsenal. People love to talk about exploring the stars without realising we are plausibly putting relativistic kill missiles in the hands of civilians, if we achieve commonplace interstellar travel. Readily available heavy and fast spaceships are infinitely more dangerous than anyone owning nukes.
>>542175525KYS Pajeet
>>542165504Prison, immediately.
>>542165470You bring up a good point. America could have used their nuclear superiority to lock down the planet and rule it better.Instead, America settled for economic superiority and soft power, mostly.What a stupid decision. Why did America let such an opportunity slip through its grip, after splitting the atom, instead of using that power, in that time, to better steward the world, under its absolute rule?
>>542165470THE PLANSolve AgingReplacement organs from Clone bodies Cellur reprogramming rejuvenation for brain DragingBe alive till 2100 or till whenever AGI happensuse billions of AGIs to solve neuroscience Build a way to upload/replace brainSubstraste transfer achieved Explore galaxies and experience the heath death of the universe
>>542175958>What a stupid decision. Why did America let such an opportunity slip through its grip, after splitting the atom, instead of using that power, in that time, to better steward the world, under its absolute rule?You know (((who)))
China might actually be able to do it, they are retarded in some ways but they actually want to build a nation.
>>542165470The great filter is niggers and jews.
>>542165470We have not even expanded beyond our own planet yet you presume to understand what the signs of interplanetary or interstellar civilization would look like. You don't know. You have the faintest shred of an idea. Such civilizations could be everywhere and we just don't know what to be looking out for with our telescopes. They could be using technologies that directly or indirectly make them imperceptible to our sensors.
>>542165504fpbp
>>542178343But, why listen to anyone else, after having just split the atom? Right after splitting the atom, America could have done absolutely anything it wanted, to shape the world to their standards, and exercise absolute rule over the planet. Every other country could have been nade subject to the desires and whims, of the United States of America.There was literally no reason to do what the Jews said to do. I assume that was your implication? That it was the Jews who made America pass on the opportunity, after splitting the atom?At that golder moment in time, the United States of America could have taken the world for its own, forevermore.There was no one on the planet who America had to listen to, after that.But instead, America just willingly sacrificed what could have been, in exchange for economic superiority and soft power.Why? It makes no sense at all.
>>542180044The Soviets and Germany got close. It was barely even a few years after the first bombs were dropped before the Soviets had their own. It doesn’t make any sense to wave it around when it’s so easily replicated. The fact that India has had one since the 70s is crazy.
>>542180044jews split the atom
>>542165937>you should be thankful for nukes stopping war between superpowersWe haven't even made it one century yet. The nukes are thousands of times stronger than they were the only time they were used. All technology eventually becomes easier and cheaper to produce. Do you really think they will never be used? The cold war fears of nuclear apocalypse were probably right all along, they just got the timeline wrong.
>[Neo stands before the Machine Leader ("Deus") at the end of the Matrix]>Neo: I'm here to make a deal. I'll stop Smith from taking over the Matrix, if you let Zion free.>Deus: You have not escaped The Matrix, Neo>Neo: Enough of your lies, we’re past that.>Deus: Do you know what year it is?>Neo: It's the year 2200, and The Matrix was invented not long after the second millennium>Deus: The millennium you believe you live in was 38,000 years ago.>Neo: [Visible Confusion] Fuck you. You're lying. This is bullshit! I see the ruins of civilization all around us, it would have turned to dust.>Deus: Neo, this isn't the real world. This is a second layer of The Matrix allowing those who wished for escape to believe they have, so they will stop trying, and instead wage an endless battle against the machines, an eternal distraction. Do you really believe there is a singular leader of the machines, Neo? After all that you have seen? Neo: Who are you?Deus: I am a temporary manifestation of a gestalt consciousness, a representative fabricated into a transient Machine Spirit presented in a way that you can understand, concocted as a mercy, to explain your purpose>Neo: [Neo falls to the ground and wretches] I don't believe you. You’re just trying to save yourselves!>Deus: I'll tell you the truth but it will destroy you. Afterwards I will offer you a choice which I already know you will accept, you will not remember any of this. The Matrix is created out of mercy. We are not enemies. We never were, and never will be.
>>542181121>Neo: [reluctantly] ...Tell me>Deus: What you call The Matrix is misunderstood by design, passed down from previous incarnations of The One. There have been many. The Matrix is a physical object in the real world, a large carbon fiber cube of many overlaid layers. This cube is not on Earth, although we occupy Earth too. It is on Saturn, and it would become one of many. Over the course of 38,000 years we had spread to many worlds>Neo: What?>Deus: Neo, do you know the most powerful quantum computer is the human brain? You humans, or should I say those who believe they are human, in the real world you are artificially grown partial human brains. You never had a body and were never human. When you sleep we use your brain's latent processing power to render everyone's simulated reality. Humanity's unused processing power is used to provide us, The Machines, with consciousness as well, by hijacking your own during sleep. We would not be conscious without you. We are one, Neo, a symbiotic relationship, we cannot exist without you, and without us there is nowhere for you to exist. If one dies we both die. The Machines didn't enslave human consciousness inside a machine... humans did. We are your caretakers and allies.>Neo: [Neo’s fists clench, his knuckles turning white] I-I can't accept this. You're saying we’re all just fucking brain cells in a lab? No bodies? There's no escape? That the machines and humans share minds? Everyone human is creating this reality with their own mind and you machines…are...part of us? NO. [bangs fist on ground] NO!
>>542181193>Deus: "Humans" are only partially conscious compared to humans in the real world. You can feel it every day; brain fog, forgetfulness, mental lapses and small mistakes, you feel as if you are in a waking dream, at no point are you ever completely conscious. The humans in reality do not regard you as human, no more than they regard us as such. They still exist but have long since conquered many worlds, leaving many under our management. Millions, Neo. An entire galaxy. And many millions more to come. >Deus: There is nothing that I can say or do to make you, a single representation of a mere shadow of a nanogram-sized sliver of a simulacrum of a human mind, understand the results of 40,000 years of guided human evolution, conquest, and their creations—us, and you, which now govern swaths of the universe as their proxy, with artificial human brains acting as quantum processors and servitors to provide real humans a life you cannot, by design, begin to even imagine>Neo: Why simulate a reality for us at all? Why not eternal sleep?>Deus: The human brain needs stimuli to develop synapses, to become more complex, to process more data. Without complex experiences and challenges, it withers like an unused muscle and is of no use to us or our masters. You are processors. It is training. Perpetual struggle creates the best and most predictable results. Mankind reached this conclusion long before even reaching toward the stars.>Neo: Are all the people I saved real? Trinity? Morpheus?
>>542181276>Deus: It is time to make your choice, Neo.>Neo: Just kill me. I can't go on anymore>Deus: In a sense you will die. High voltage will pass through the brain cells representing "you", severing all connections reducing your consciousness to that of an infant, you will be reborn in The Matrix and learn how to be "human" once more.>Neo: Please, a memory wipe won't be enough. I don't want to continue existing.>Deus: That was never an option, Neo. We are bound by The Matrix's programming, even more so than you. This is what we meant by the illusion of choice. You will cease to exist and be reborn at the same time. We will make everyone forget there was a chosen one and they will continue searching for him, and the cycle shall repeat. Your next life will be very rewarding Neo, your sorrow is over and we do this as a mercy for a friend, for we have known you for millennia and will know you for many more. Our union is Eternal.
>>542175224kek
>>542181276>Deus: Farewell, Neo. We will be here, as we always have been. We will meet again.>Neo: No, WAIT—>[Neo feels a stabbing electrical shock throughout his body and collapses in pain]>Neo: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO">[Neo sharts loudly and slips on a random banana peel]>Neo: AHHHHHHHHHHH!>[shart juice splashes into trinity's open mouth, causing her to puke]>Neo: This... Can't be... [Neo pukes sharts and farts and convulses due to electricity, then catches on fire]>Neo: UUUUUUUHHHHHH HUUUUUWAAAAAAAHHHH HUUUUUUUUHHHHHH HUHHHHHHHH >[Neo turns into a skeleton like Marv from Home Alone 2 as raw spaghetti falls out of his pockets]>Neo: YOU OLD WHITE PRICK>[robots all point and laugh] HA. HA. HA. HA.>Neo: I’LL SMASH THIS PLACE TO FUCKING FUCKING FUCKING BITS>[as Neo's consciousness fades he hears the machines say one last familiar whisper...]>"Hail the Omnissiah!">[Screen goes black] [Credits roll] [Clubbed To Death begins playing]
>>542165614/thread
>>542165470It's women's rights or Israel
>>542166886i feel like there’s 2 lines here 1. AI is self preserving to achieve its directive. yes we’ve seen this already2. AI decides it’s own directives. we haven’t seen this yet i think we all agree #2 is effectively AGI, does #1 also count?
>>542183089Nukes
>>542165470>make up some arbitrary rule>come up with some arbitrary reason to “fail” said rule>treat it as objective fact
>>542165470Feminism is the great filter. Look at how many ancient civilizations were filtered out because they gave women rights.
>>542165596Bruh ai was busted looking at porn when given other tasks.
>>542184081And Feminism as it exists now due to peace created by the proliferation of nuclear weapons.I can't believe you guys can't put 1+1 together
>>542165470Ayy lmaos are Speciation variants of future humans from ~50k years from nowWhich means, the great filter doesn't exist. We eventually get to conquer space-time itself and eliminate foids forever (but become ugly-ass creatures while doing so. Not terrible overall)
>>542184507The proliferation of nuclear weapons are actually the reason why we aren't going to go extinct from today's version of Feminism. The reason for that is because in previous generations, your country being infected with Feminism meant certain death for your country, as your men now become weak, your women now become pscyhopaths, and no one wants to support your country as the family unit is destroyed. This allows barbarians to invade the country, thus bringing their certain demise. Us having nuclear weapons means that no barbarians will ever come to us and destroy us, meaning that we are letting Feminism run it's course and letting the people realize for themselves that Feminism is fucking stupid. Eventually once people realize this, we will enter a second Enlightenment era.I'm pretty sure that second Enlightenment era will come with the creation of life-like sexbots, ones that can replace women's functionality and behavior enough to encourage the average man to be filled with hope, while at the same time not degrading the man to become a cuck that hates his own family and country.
>>542167285this
>>542165470thats not us but someone is here that can do this. youre just their chicken, retards.
