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How come Catholics are all anti Israel while Protestants are all pro Israel?
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>>542174260
Catholicism =/= Christianity
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%2024%3A9&version=ERV
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>>542174260
Because protestants aren't christians
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>>542174260
Zionism comes from the Jesuits, not the Khazars. It's basically a Crusade. The RCC wants Jerusalem.
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>>542174331
Kys kike
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>>542174331
Yeah and biblical israel =/= modern israel. If you think the same name means its the same shit you are a legitimate genetic dead end primate unfit to live.
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>>542174260
Protestants are, and have always been, Jews-in-denial
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>>542174260
Because protestants (especially those whacky Americunt ones) are heretics who deny Jesus, basically neo-Jews.
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>>542174260
why is France so pro-Israel? they have the most jews in Europe
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>>542174438
>The accusation that the synagogue was a synagogue, not of Judeans but of Satan is connected with an internal dispute on how one faithful to Israelite traditions should live with the Roman economic system. The author of Revelation was arguing that there should be no compromise with Rome, and those who did compromise were not fit to be called Judean. The Synagogue, on the other hand, argued that peaceful coexistence with Rome was possible. It is suggested that the synagogue accused members of the church in Smyrna of not being Judean because they refused to pay the special Judean tax that allowed them to practice their religion unmolested. For the author of Revelation, however, to pay the tax would be an act of apostasy, as the tax paid for the rebuilding of the Capitoline temple.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/014610799902800405
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>>542174448
*cough*
https://hms.harvard.edu/news/ancient-dna-provides-new-insights-ashkenazi-jewish-history
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>>542174365
is France Catholic?
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>>542174468
Catholics are and always have been kike slaves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R9Qiej-Tqo
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>>542174579
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>>542174260
Martin Luther is an OG Antisemite and Noticer, so kikes made an effort to co-opt the less cohesive Protestant movement. They also infiltrate the Catholic Church but given the historical power the Vatican had it had to be through methods like usury and moneychanging.
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>>542174579
You and "our national motto is we surrender" are both ruled by shitskins
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>>542174579
state sponsorsed Anti-catholocism originated in france
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KJV is not the true bible; it's a jewish psyop.
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>>542174655
now do Spain and Ireland, pretty sure they are also atheists mostly. France is the only catholic nation with any pull so the other catholic nations are just posturing behind them
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>>542174534
Not gonna bend to the synagogue of Satan, good try
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>>542174705
Quite a bit of "money lending" going on between kikes and catholic boy rape sponsors

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_loans_to_the_Holy_See
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>>542174778
All religion is fake n gay
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>>542174808
See
>>542174522
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Guys stop fighting and accept the third way, the orthodox way
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>>542174260
The catholic church explicitly believes jews are saved without believing in Christ. (Nostra Aetate) They also now teach that muslims worship the same god as them and are a beautiful beneficial pillar of humanity. (Abu Dhabi Document)
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>>542174905
I heard greeks invented sex

Then italians invented having it w women
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>>542174905
You guys lost Constantinople to the Turks 0 respect or aura left after that
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>>542174260
>catholics are anti israel
Blatant lie
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>>542174901
That's what Satan would say
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>>542174947
Yeah no thanks to you faggots
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>>542174438
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>>542174448
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>>542174260
Trump is surrounded by roman catholics and he is an agent for the jesuits.
stop spreading lies.
the vatican and papal office is antichrist.
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>>542175683
God doesnt exist
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>>542174468
protestant dont have a priest class that offer sacrifices (eucharist) which is just continued judaism.
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>>542174905
>roman catholocism lite with the same heretical teachings and traditions
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>>542174778
>this jewish version of this jewish version of an old jewish version of a the first written jewish book that was originally jewish oral traditions and laws is the wrong kind of jewish
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>>542174260
Scofield
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>>542175855
No

Fake n gay
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>>542174260
>Protestants
Evangelicals is more accurate. Evangelicalism is an American religion with Christian elements. Catholicism is the original form of Christianity.
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>>542176262
>Catholicism is the original form of Satanism.
ftfy
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>>542174331
>>542174260
catholic dogma is controlled by the holy see. The jews cannot infiltrate it, they would some how have to put a bunch of jews in the church and make them reach high levels and then pray for rng from the pope to make vast majority of them as cardinals to vote for the next pope. then they would have to convince all the other cardinals that all have their own political klicks to vote for the pro jew pope candidate.

Since they cannot do this, the best they can do is try to schism parts of the church to weaken their leadership structure and infiltrate, the other is try to pit other christian against them.

Problem with luther is he did not forsee this jewish movment to infiltrate and gain sympathy for a jewish nation state.
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>>542175795
Fuck off roach thats a Saint's foot
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>>542176486
>thats an idols foot
exactly. stop worshiping relics and idols.
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>>542174260
It's almost like Israel directly bombed a Catholic community or something and then posed in the ruins
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>>542174260
Neither part of your "question" is true. Also, while there is a pretty sizable gap between Catholics and Evangelicals, non-Evangelical Protestants are quite close to Catholics on this issue.
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>>542174331
This narrative only exists in the Jew Es Ay.

Funny, isn't it?
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>>542176526
It's not him that you worship you fucking moron, you as a sinful person pray to him that became sanctified to pray for you to God
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>>542174260
How come all catholics are godless liars?
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>>542174905
To be honest, I don't really care whether the top of the Church's hierarchy is a single old guy or a council of old guys, but I don't even know where we'd begin reconciling after being divided for so long.
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>>542176470
A Jewish converso priest literally co-authored Vatican 2 explicitly to remove the dogmas concerning Jews, and then subsequently left the priesthood saying "my job is done." Look it up.
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>>542176684
>you as a sinful person pray to him that became sanctified to pray for you to God
ah yes, how fucking pagan. just circumvent Jesus Christ who is our only mediator and ask other saints and the "queen of heaven" to intercess for you before God.
this is pure heresy.
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>>542174260
Protestants were infected with the zionist mind virus. Particularly American protestants.
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>>542176797
Yeah keep telling yourself what your lesbian Protestant priest taught you
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>>542176999
it is written in the Word.
you might want to pick it up instead of practicing gnosticism in disguise.
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>>542174963
Nobody gives a fuck about this EU cocksmoker. He doesn't speak for Catholics.
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>>542177062
Oh i forgot how you fags are sola scriptura.
Tell me then,did Jesus really destroy the temple and rebuild it in 3 days?
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>>542177199
according to the scipture he was buried and was raised on the 3rd day, so yes, obviously.
God doesnt dwell in temples build by human hands.
>Oh i forgot how you fags are sola scriptura.
just like every one of the first christians. they didnt follow traditions of man like churches do today.
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Most protestants I know are not dispensationalists and do not give a shit about the modern state of Israel
in fact a fella from my church who I asked about it said that if/when Jesus returns and sees what Jews have done to the kingdom god bequeathed them (being a rampant secular state built on murdering others indiscriminately and having gay bars on every corner in Tel Aviv) that surely God would smite them from existence

Maybe this is what the pro-Israel dispensationalists also believe? Im not too sure, in any event the history of Jews has been rebelling against god and being punished for it, It seems like another dose of that is just around the corner for them if they carry on the way they are.
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>>542177347
So why that part would be an allegory and the rest of the Bible should be taken literally?
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>>542174260
Because Catholicism is true. The others are Satan leading man astray from the one true Church founded by Christ. Also note how Catholicism has been Judaism's archenemy for centuries on end. In Catholic Europe Jews were banned from participating. Guess who let them back in? Amsterdam
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>>542177440
how is that an allegory? its literal.
God incarnated in the flesh. Jesus is fully human and fully God. His Body is the Temple of God.

John 2
19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” 20 The Jews then said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple,[c] and will you raise it up in three days?” 21 But he was speaking about the temple of his body.

its literally literal in the Words of Jesus. how can you make an allegory out of that?
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>>542177605
>But he was speaking about the temple of his body.
exactly my point, then why according to your logic, we should take the rest of the bible literally (especially the old testament)?
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>>542174260
Protestants rejected papal authority.
>ok
But dumbasses forgot to come up with a replacement mechanism so folks just create a new cult every time they disagree with someone else's interpretation.
Fast-forward 200+ years and everything in their fractured cult is now 'symbolic' and a bunch of gibberish.
It's why they don't know the difference btwn worshipping a supreme being and asking saints/Mary for intercession. They just have one superficial setting: 'good vibes'.
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>>542174331
oh boy a ziovangelical that can prooftext
read romans 11 and get back to me
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>>542177749
because its the literal truth. God doesnt lie.
or dont you believe that God created the earth in 6 days? that humanity started with 1 man and 1 woman? angles intermarrying with women, the flood etc.
is that all just allegory to you or an actual literal historic account?
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>>542177903
Sola Scriptura doesnt mean to take the bible literally all the time
otherwise

>Psalm 22:6
>New International Version
>6 But I am a worm and not a man, scorned by everyone, despised by the people.
would mean we believe that Jesus is saying he is quite literally a worm

Sola Scriptura is the thought that the bible alone is the sole highest authority
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>>542178150
And who gave you your Bible? The CATHOLIC CHURCH. They decided which texts were canon and which werent. Every time you open your Bible you are submitting to the Church Christ founded.
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>>542177903
How in your logic an allegory is a lie?
Aslo the flood of Noah yes its an allegory of baptism and how baptizing in the name of God you are saved.
And the earth was not created in literal 6 days because the sun was created at day 4 so how could a human made theory based on sunlight could mean a literal week?
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>>542178150
Isiah 52
14 As many were astonished at you—
his appearance was so marred, beyond human semblance,
and his form beyond that of the children of mankind—

>would mean we believe that Jesus is saying he is quite literally a worm
in the spiritual sense he was a worm because he took our iniquities upon himself. he was cut off from God for bearing our sins.
ofc he didnt turn into a literal worm, that would be fables.
read the scripture sober.
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>>542178264
the catholic church of today affirms many things that the church back then didn't. The church is not a static organism, it has changed and shaped itself over millennia. Do you think the early church fathers would be okay with the blessing of same sex marriages? Muslim prayer rooms in the vatican? Incorporation of native south american idols in worship?
Papal infallibility wasnt even a dogma until 1870 either
this strange catholic thought that the church hasnt changed at all over thousands of years is nonsense
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Spain and Ireland hardly have Catholic governments
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>>542178606
ok so you do have to infer meaning then, its not just literal
thanks for confirming
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KIKE ON A STICK
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>>542178606
How is he cut off from God when he is the God the son?
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>>542178269
>How in your logic an allegory is a lie?
I didnt say its a lie. its simply lacks discernment.
>Aslo the flood of Noah yes its an allegory
did it happen or did it not happen?
>And the earth was not created in literal 6 days because the sun was created at day 4 so how could a human made theory based on sunlight could mean a literal week?
because God created the heavens first and started creation of earth on the 3rd day.
it was dictated by God to Moses to say exactly that, that the heavens and earth were created in 6 days. not millions of years, not 8 day, 6 according to the Word of God.
if you think this is an allegory the whole foundation of God credibility starts to crumble.
either it was 6 days and God says the truth or its not 6 days and God is a liar.
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>>542174260
Is part of cattle maintenance, you wouldn't understand.
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>>542178673
retarded argument, but w/e.

>>542178808
I just said it, our iniquities are upon himself. according to the OT law Jesus is an unclean state and dont have access to God. he has become rejected.
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>>542178920
>Jesus is an unclean state and dont have access to God. he has become rejected.
Im done talking to a retard like you,you are literally a heretic and need to kill yourself immediately
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>>542178920
>retarded argument, but w/e.
if you have to say "of course he is not literally a worm" then you have to infer meaning that isnt written there
if you cant refute that, or have otherwise misunderstood or been misled as to what Sola Scriptura actually means, thats on you.
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>>542179009
2 Corinthians 5
21For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

read your fucking bible retard. its always fake christians that larp about being in the right church but have zero biblical knowledge.

>>542179065
>hurrr here it says Jesus should become a literal worm if you think the bible is literal
Im not keen on engaging with stupid statements.
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>>542174260
Not true at all I have catholic friends who are rabid zionists and think im crazy when I disagree. Knights of columbus level deep cathilics.
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>>542179169
I accept your concession, in future educate yourself
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>>542179274
>cant discern when God uses pictures to describe literal scenarios
I bet you think the mark of the beast will be a literal mark you have to take on the body as well.
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>>542174260
Catholics are just as tucked as protestantism. The only real Christian sect is orthodox
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>>542178637
The Vatican did those things PASTORALLY. No dogma has been changed, they cant. You can safely ignore whatever they are doing until they start changing dogmas. Take Nostra Aetate for example, it goes against all tradition but this was never defined as dogma.
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>>542179375
I can, as I believe that you do have to infer meaning from scripture from time to time
your argument however is that you dont, but then you contradict yourself and say that you do "ofc"
and you dont even know what sola scriptura actually means
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>>542174260
>How come Catholics are all anti Israel

lol

They worship a jew
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Catholics are over educated Democrat libtards
t. Catholic
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>>542179720
>Jew
God has a nationality? He always was, always is and always will be in saecula saeculorum.
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>>542179614
the Word alone as authority.

>as I believe that you do have to infer meaning from scripture from time to time
sure, but then I can just look at roman catholocism about what "infer meaning" leads to.
the Psalms are almost poetic in nature and you bringing it up for some "gotcha" is fucking cringe. apply yourself.
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>>542174438
>said the rabbi messiah king of the jews
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Romans 15:27 says “For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews' spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.”
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>>542174331
Ancient Israel =/= Modern Israel
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>>542179832
The Church has the right to interpret scripture and they alone. Look what all these random idiots interpreting scripture got us? 101010101001010 different denominations all contradicting each other. Meanwhile, the Catholic Church is still one.
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>>542174331
>>542174260
Evangelical Christians are heretics who love Jewish dick
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>>542179936
25 At present, however, I am going to Jerusalem bringing aid to the saints.

>>542180108
no God alone has the authority to interpret scripture, not the Church.

Luke 4:31
And he was teaching them on the Sabbath, 32 and they were astonished at his teaching, for his word possessed authority.

>101010101001010 different denominations all contradicting each other
the roman catholic church is the most divided church in the world.
meanwhile all 1010101010101 different churches agree on the same core concept of Sola Scriptura, Sola Gratia and Sola Fide.
get fucked. its the RCC that has to get its shit together, not the protestants.
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>>542174331
Christians fail to denounce israel.
ATHEISTS BTFO CHRISTIANS.
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>>542180313
God alone? Is God here to tell us what to think? Ignoramus. That is why he left us with His church, Protestant
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Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel, picking fruit for free on a farm in Israel.
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>>542179832
The example I gave with psalms contradicts your view
Sola Scriptura means the bible as the highest authority that no earthly ministry can contradict
it does not mean take every verse contained within as its literal meaning as you have even admitted

>>542180108
>the catholic church is still one
lmfao outside of the largest schism in history between west and east, every week in the modern day your infallible pope has to excommunicate people for disagreeing with the church and many 'catholics' do not affirm vatican 2
my local baptist church has been coherent longer than the modern catholic church
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>>542180458
so you say Jesus Christ is a liar when he promised us the Holy Spirit?

John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

Jesus does teach that the Church has the authority on interpreting the Word, its the Holy Spirit that indwells man that teaches us directly.
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>>542180530
Catholicism is the largest religion on the planet. Just as God would want it. The only Church that has actual miracles. God isnt with any of the others for they didnt accept his Church
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>>542180773
fastest growing denomination however, it is not
protestants have taken that torch
dont be fooled by the online larpers you hang about with
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>>542174260
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>>542180530
>The example I gave with psalms contradicts your view
no it doesnt since God draws a picture of Jesus on the cross that corraborates with Isiah 52 that Jesus will be beyond human semblance.
he could have used any other Word to draw the same picture. a man so ultimately marred and battered that he stopped looking like a man at all.
I guess you cant picture a man that was beaten up, flogged almost to death hanging on the cross naked and bleeding looks like a worm.

took me a minute but here is the LITERAL picture that God is showing in the Psalm passage.
the crimson or tola worm that secretes red dye on wood or a tree to for its young. it stains the wood red to protect her offspring.
go educate yourself on the Worm itself and get the fuck out of my face.
its LITERAL because God doesnt lie.
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>>542180869
>protestants have taken that torch
That is the religion of the Antichrist, the Evangelicals, End times are nigh
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>>542180773
miracle at fatima is what saved south america from full blown communism and all catholics are supposed to pray the rosery to defeat it and stop the likes of ww3
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>>542180530
https://people.smu.edu/cgould/2025/05/02/what-is-the-crimson-worm/comment-page-1/
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>>542180980
So jesus is literally a worm then?
Or are you saying jesus looks like a worm and is spiritually a worm but isnt literally a worm, because that isnt what is written and as such you would have had to infer that meaning
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>>542174331
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>>542181055
You can tell who is in charge of this world. Basically no one has heard about this miracle.
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>>542181191
See
>>542174534
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>>542181126
get the fuck out of my face you pilpul jew faggot.
you are to mentally inept or spirituality dead to converse with.
all so you can cash in some "win gotcha" on the internet.
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>>542181007
the ROMAN catholic church was always antichrist.
thats why they never teach Revelation correctly.
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>>542180773
Orthodoxy actually has the most miracles and appearances of God
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>>542181485
Sure thing buddy. Nulla salus extra ecclesiam catholicam
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The pope commanded them to suck off Muslim dicks, so they hasten to obey
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>>542174260
The Catholic stance on Israel has historically been that the destruction of the Jewish temple and scattering of the Jews was the rightful punishment by God for rejecting Jesus and that there is no need for a Jewish nation. Jews deserve no such thing. Also, the condition for Jesus to return is that all of mankind is converted to Christianity, and Revelations and Genesis are largelly allegorical books and should be taken with a grain of salt.

Numerology, divination and Kabbalah are largelly heretic and attempts at witchcraft, so intrinsically pagan even if using the bible, and it is largelly what protestants have dedícated themselves to do after splintering fron Catholicism. The whole study of Revelations thing to try to predict or cause the end of times is largelly Protestant Witchcraft and Heresy, that has naturally resulted from Jewish Kabbalist influence.
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>>542181218
your warped view of sola scriptura has led you into pidgeonholing yourself into these retarded indefensible stances
if you believe its literal then it all has to be literal
if you do not and like everyone else who believes in sola scriptura, you understand that you have to infer meaning from scripture and that the doctrine is about where authority lies not whatever you have conjured up in your troglodyte brain
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>>542181726
>the condition for Jesus to return is that all of mankind is converted to Christianity
How did you reach this conclusion?
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>>542181803
>nigger doesnt understand typology
Im done with you. you dont have to infer meaning when you have discernment to understand what God is talking about.
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>>542180773
>>542181485
Matthew 24
24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand. 26 So, if they say to you, ‘Look, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out. If they say, ‘Look, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.
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>>542174917
Rather, it believes rhat salvation is part of Gods covenant with the Jews, and that Extra Ecclesiasam Nulla salus is still valid. Jews amaz only be saved because of Christ, even though they are not formally within rhe Church. Regardless, rejecting Christ out of ignorance is difference from rejecting him out of obstinance. We cannot speak with certain on the soul of any given Jew following the Crucixifion.
>>542174917
Even Aquinas thought of Muslims as skin to practicing a corrupted version of Christianity, at least in the sense thst they worship the same God.
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>>542181905
>you dont have to infer meaning
>well how do you know jesus didnt literally mean he was a worm
>well because uhh... well... duh of course!
>you can take things literally and also know true meanings that arent written
what do you think inferring meaning is you moron
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protestants allowed usury into the Christian Church
just like mennonites are scumbag amish
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>>542182050
>>well because uhh... well... duh of course!
see, this is why you are such a filthy kike.
God created a literal worm that foreshadowed the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross and commemorated it in his inspired Psalms.
everything is about Jesus, he is found in every book of the OT, creation itself shows us his glory.
and you fucking mouth breathing retard start an argument about why God used the word Worm for himself, and I showed you.
you take the L, fuck off now kike nigger. and take your inferred meaning with you.
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>>542181702
lol after the protestants, your church is the most heretical one dont get me started
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>>542181988
A queer jewish convert's policy paper doesn't override 1900+ of church doctrine nor the direct quote on who qualifies for His salvation.

If anything, it shows that most folks can't track the post-wwII subjugation at the hands of the crown and the recursion/bullshit propaganda sold to the masses to keep the peace.

Fools like you see the church's 180 change in sentiment towards jews postWWII as organic. It's fucking laughable.
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>>542182068
>protestants allowed usury
You could have just said JEWS. We let them back in first. Amsterdam and the "golden age"
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>>542180042
How can you say this shit with a straight face? You a Muslim or something?
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>>542182472
Modern Israel is a secular nation state full of atheists and open homosexuality
to say it is of any relation to the ancient kingdom god gave the jews is a fucking joke
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It's always fucking Germans. I hate ALL Germans SO MUCH.
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Crossniggers are the original Qtards.

Christianity - trusting the Plan on Steroids

Bow down to your lord and savior, the King of Israel, the King of the Jews

Trust the plan! Christianity will save the West!
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>>542181201
how can praying like heathens praying with many words thinking they are heard achieve anything? the notion that you can change history is retarded in itself when Jesus already outlined history in Revelation.
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Protestantism, not even once. This Jew exposes how they wanted to corrupt the Catholic Church
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>>542181891
Alright, alright. The conditions are:
1. The Gospel is preached to all nations.
2. All Jews are converted to Christianity.
3. The Antichrist brings the time of tribulations.

Still means that some Jewish nation existing is contrary to the return of Christ. Jews should be converted not given free land.
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>>542174778
kjv is just the corrected latin vulgate in English
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>>542175067
So you admit faggots are greater than your fake and gay religion
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>>542182789
So how did you reach that conclusion?
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>>542182688
>From 1913 to 1916, Newman served as rabbi of Congregation Beth Israel (Berkeley, California). In 1917, Newman became an assistant to Rabbi Stephen Wise at the Free Synagogue in New York City and then was ordained by Stephen Wise and Martin Meyer in 1918.
roman catholics are such snakes its unreal.
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>>542182789
Jews don't need to be converted, they only come to Christ once Jesus come back.
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>>542182789
the anti christ is long here and the tribulations started the moment Jesus sat down in heaven.
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In an old TDS episode a Roman Catholic guest points out that Protestantism actually promotes jewy genes because the Prots with high verbal IQs become popular and increase their chances of reproducing whereas Roman Catholicism is more meritocratic and looks at its members' actual deeds instead of sola fide + how good you are at Bible thumpin' the public. I personally prefer Orthodox but anything is better than Prot.
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>>542182837
Just Catholic teachings retard. The Catholic Church knows what must be done even when not written in the bible.

That said, usually Matthew 24 and Romans 11 are usually taken as an outline for the requisites of the fulfillment of Jesus' word, a duty left for his Church.
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>>542183168
>The Catholic Church knows what must be done even when not written in the bible
like bless same sex marriages?
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>>542183060
As a christian you don't sit around claiming victory until the race is over, all of us are founded on Christ our foundation and in the race as if we are the only ones running. It's about keeping your head down and doing the best you can because God knows all your secrets.
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>>542174579
Not at all. It's a laïc republic since 200 years, built on the blood of Catholics.
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>>542182688
cool
available online:
>https://archive.org/details/jewishinfluenceo0000unse
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>>542183210
Did you mean to reply to a different post?
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>>542183060
a popular and well like protestant is always a red flag.
those that are not liked and persecuted are the ones with valuable messages.

thats why having saints, popes and people of status should make you skeptical.
the world hated Jesus first, servants are not greater than their Master.
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>>542183168
>The Catholic Church knows what must be done even when not written in the bible.
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>>542183209
Homosexuals cannot marry in the Catholic Church. Blessing is marriage now? Learn your theological lingo pretty please
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>>542178844
Dont fall for his series of questions.
Those fags have nothing to contribute
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>>542183332
no, I was pointing out that protestants aren't better than catholics and catholics aren't better than protestants, they are both Christian and founded in Christ and running the race. It's that simple.
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>>542182570
Yeah these people really suck at theology. Luther ran a train on their minds.
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>>542183419
did God bless Sodom and Gomorrah?
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>>542174260
Tucker covered this already. Split denominations with incoherent Catechism made it extremely easy for Protestantism to be abused a century ago. Many interests abuse it though, not just Jews. American protestants are essentially heretical pay pigs, despite many good intentions.

At this point it’s naive to think the Catholics haven’t fallen yet though. Eastern Orthodox might be the only one left.
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>>542183348
That's why I prefer Orthodox because as I see it they just follow the Bible. There's some weird shit in Russia where the government apparently let them come back just to turn them into puppets, but if you look at hardcore the Orthodox countries away from that mess you'll get a sense of what I'm talking about.
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>>542174260
Fun Fact:
Old money WASPs made a deal with the Zionists loooong time ago that the American experiment of self governance has failed and they signed on to the new system they call new world order
I d call it TREASON
Hang them all upon conviction in the military tribunal
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>>542183558
Eastern traditions are non-existent in the West, they are huge sluggards in the race.
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>>542174260
Because of Scofield bible translation as you can see here >>542174331 it's not Scofield but the translation is wrong, there is no Israel in the original text, but kikes changed the translation and that led to protties enslaving themselves.
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>>542183695
>they just follow the Bible
no, they put tradition over the bible and thus are in error.
I get the appeal but I would discourage anyone and simply stick with the Word. use the narrow road and not the broad road that leads to destruction that many take.
God and his Word is sufficient.
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>>542183436
Ok I see your point. Yes it's ultimately up to the individual to decide how they want to live their lives, there are good and bad in both camps, there are even Muslims who are better people than most Christians (as in the Muslims who are actually fighting ZOG right now), but I maintain that Prot is more susceptible to jewy behavior on an organizational level.
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>>542174260
Catholics are the most anti-Jew and always deliver bangers!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coughlin

> "...that modern Shylocks have grown fat and wealthy, praised and deified, because they have perpetuated the ancient crime of usury under a modern racket of statesmanship."

> "I believe in the abolition of the privately owned Federal Reserve Banking system and in the establishment of a Government owned Central Bank."

> "Shall we, the citizens of this country, remain passive while a system of rapacious usury drains the purchasing power from the nation, leaving the laborer destitute in a land of plenty?"

> "When we get through with the Jews of America, they'll think the treatment they received in Germany was nothing."
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>>542183860
>they put tradition over the bible
How so? Besides peasant superstition with likely pre-Christian origins.
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>>542183419
lmao cope
your pope blesses fags
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>>542175261
Yeah and guess what, those Jews who were ministered to back then became Christians. Modern Israel is not the same entity as ancient Israel. Christians are the inheritors of the promises both Jew and Gentile alike. There is no separate special future plan for the Jews beyond the good news of Christ's finished work on the cross which they have denied. They are simply unbelievers doing/promoting ungodliness.

Modern Judaism is not even the same religion as the religion of Abraham. Their traditions superseded anything found in the old testament which they can no longer practice with the destruction of the temple.
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>>542183921
No, there are no good and bad people. You don't get to heaven be being good.

People can do as many good works as they want, that's great I love good works.

The only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ and His Seed, as it's a type of "Abraham's seed" A spiritual Seed.
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>>542183921
That's also a distraction from our original conversation which was about the race.

We are all in a race to spread God's Seed. Whoever spreads it the most wins.
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>>542174331
"The Scripture… preached the Gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying,
‘In you shall all nations be blessed.’”
— Galatians 3:8
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>>542174260
>How come Catholics are all anti Israel while Protestants are all pro Israel?
Poles have always choked on jew cock, from supporting the Holocaust Conspiracy Theory, to encouraging and contributing to the Jewkraine.
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>>542184121
their whole Theosis concept were you become one with God is very gnostic. works based salvation by synergism where prayer, asceticism and sacraments bring you closer to the image of God. thats not how faith works, God conforms you to the image of Christ, you dont become like God. and neither do you cooperate by works of your own, God changes you from the inside so you have zero credit for yourself or good works.
their veneration of saints, relics and icons is anti scriptural. all their mysteries, Mount Athos, saints wearing robes and stuff is all red flags to me.
I would stay clear of it.
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>>542174260
Vatican II which holds most of the power over Catholics and Catholic teachings is very pro-jewish and apparently pro-muslim as well since they have a designated prayer room for them in the Vatican. Care to explain?

>>542176684
The Bible is clear those who come to know the Son (Jesus Christ) will be known by the Father in heaven as well. No where does it mention using saints body parts or the saints themselves to become right in the eyes of God. Jesus Christ is the one and only door and you essentially implying there are other doors that lead to God which is a heretical teaching, contradictive of the Bible, and is adding onto the Bible itself as well which is a grave sin to do.
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>>542184277
I'm afraid I don't understand some of the concepts you've mentioned, but I would look at how you're living today, is it in line with God's law? Are you free from negativity and is there only love in you? Then you are almost already in heaven, you just need to escape this wicked, kiked society. That's how I see it and I think it's in line with the overarching Biblical narrative, can God put you in a cleaned-up world and expect you to appreciate it and take care of it, or will you fuck it all up again like the current world? That's how you "make the cut" so to speak.
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>>542174331
That Israel isn't the same Israel as the one founded around '47/'48.
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>>542184649
those are all good an all but you end up in a cult like Islam or something similar which is more like a political ideology rather than following the Laws of Christ.
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>>542184085
>Has to dig up Catholic theologians from the early 1900s as an example

Okay that nice.......now give us a more recent example?
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>>542184398
Sorry anon I was afk, thanks for explaining all that. I suppose it comes down to what you really want, I lay out what makes sense to me here >>542184649
and beyond that the external stuff like robes, icons, and relics can be helpful reinforcements by they're just that, reinforcements. What I really look for is a heroic effort of some sort, hence why the Muslims fighting ZOG impress me so much, I guarantee you they know more than all the Christian "scholars" put together who have bowed down to the Jew whether they realize it or not. So perhaps I have a fundamentally Catholic outlook although I dislike the office of the pope (a medieval creation) so I default to Orthodox, Anglican, or some other Catholic alternative to Roman Catholic. As for Theosis, I'm guessing that kind of thing is optional, and yeah any sort of mystical sounding shit should be a red flag.



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