Why do politicians constantly buttlick trains so much? Passenger rail is useless and expensive. It needs constant subsidies from the government to remain competitive such as your car or the national express even, which is just as fast as the train and costs 5x less.
>>542177382>Sheffield to Essex>13 hours>flight>cheaper than train or busrideAmerimutt bugmen like OP will actually believe this
>>542177705OP pic is a shitpost but I don't like trains either, they're communist and statist coded, plus HSRs are white elephants that bureaucrats and politicians love cutting ribbons on and spend billions, I read somewhere that building a metro line is easier than running a robust urban bus network
>>542178078trains is hard job
>>542177382Cars get massive hidden subsidies in the form of free parking, which is a horrific waste of land. Everyone who drives a car should be forced to pay the actual price of buying their parking space at commercial prices. Same with roads.Trains are a national utility like water or electricity, there's nothing wrong with utilities costing money. Britain's trains are mismanaged and privatized, European trains are better and cheaper.
>>542178236what about the cost of not sitting next to a nigger when travelling somewhere.
>>542178236Car owners pay road and fuel tax for that, retard. It funds the bulk of road transport and without it there wouldn't be anything.
>>542178285It's your fault you're unwilling to enforce law and order in public spaces and can't have nice things as a consequence.
In canada a train from ontario to bc costs approx $1300 one way. A round trip in an airplane is about $300.
I did fly recently from zagreb to Dublin and it was like 50 euros on the Ryanair shit I fucking hate canada.
>>542178359Wrong. Vehicle Excise Duty (not "road tax") and fuel duty do not go into a special ring-fenced pot dedicated to roads. They go to general expenditure.Carbrained retards should be forced to buy their parking space at commercial land prices instead of everyone else subsidizing them.
trains are comfy. a similar distance here would be like 5€.
>>542177705Nope. Europoor trains suck ass.There was a famous story a decade ago where a guy in London did the math and it was cheaper to rent a place in Barcelona and fly to London for work than to live in London and pay rent/commuter prices there.
>>542177382maybe in your shithole lmfao lets be real Anglos cant into trains their not capable londen metro is an unorganized shithole
>>542178078>i don't like trains eitherTell us the real reason. It's because you've lost one or more family member(s) to train related accidents, isn't it?
>>542177382Threadly reminder that Hitler loved walkable cities and wanted every citizen to own a car
>>542177382They are our only defense against the Pajeet menace.
>>542178514Imagine being this retarded. Its subsidised, because people who use it are paying for it and more that what it costs, you stupid cunt.
>>542177382Time is money. He's a kid and the poster probably has the mentality of a kid but most productive adults would not waste that much time over 3 pounds of savings. So many retarded gotcha posts these days. Zoomers killed the internet.
>>542178989Land is reserved for parking as a political choice, but that's effectively a give away of billions of pounds to drivers. If you want to park a car you should have to buy the land at the same price everyone else has to buy land. By providing parking, the government is giving huge amounts of money to selfish carbrained retards.There should be zero parking provided for drivers anywhere ever. If you want to park, buy the land yourself!
>>542177382People have a childlike sensibility about trains and think they are really futuristic and cool for some reason. I think it comes from seeing the bullet trains in Japan and wanting that sort of thing everywhere
>>542177382Wait until the price of crude oil is above 150, you'll see if that jerk will still go through Berlin to get to Essex.
>>542177382>>542177705yuropoors dont realize the shithole they call a "continent" is the size of the US, thats like going from Boston to DC or chicago to memphis
>>542179167trains are by far the most efficient way of moving people from A to B, because fundamentally, the physics of steel on steel gives the lowest rolling resistance you can get (compare to a tire rolling on asphalt)
>>542179167also you realize the US uses lots of trains all the time, just not so much for passengers
>>542178610This was the era when Porsche built solid and fast cars.
>>54217770520 years ago flights from Sweden to the UK were like 40 euro with Ryanair lol
>>542179318That's great if you happen to live near A and need to go exactly to B. For the vast majority of trips that isn't the case. You have to find a way to get to A, then a way to get from B to wherever you need to go. Very rarely is that quicker than driving directly to where you want to go. And you also have to be alert and defensive because you are in a public space with niggers and could accidentally lose something. And you also have to stress out about making it on time, which makes you arrive earlier than necessary and waste even more goddam time.I know this because I live in Chicago where the train system is actually pretty good, but still sucks ass compared to driving.
>>542177382This image is probably BS but it's true that trains are horrible in the UK now. The price has gone up 5-10x in the last 20 years and the quality of the service gets worse constantly. It costs £100 to travel 100 miles even if you buy months in advance, every train stinks of piss and is never clean, every train is full of niggers blasting "music" on their bluetooth speakers and feral immigrants who are invisible to the ticketers (apparently it's racist to hold non-whites to any kind of standard), there's a 25% chance your train is cancelled and a 0% chance of you ever getting a refund. In the 2000s I could get a day return to a city halfway across the country for £20 and it was fucking kino.
>>542179630>You have to find a way to get to A, then a way to get from B to wherever you need to go.this isn't a problem with decent public transit>Very rarely is that quicker than driving directly to where you want to go. it's always much faster than driving if you have dense cities>And you also have to be alert and defensive because you are in a public space with niggers and could accidentally lose something.like i said the USA made a choice not to enforce law and order in public spaces, it could be otherwiseit would not be impossible to have cops on trains and have extremely harsh punishments for antisocial behaviour although it might cause a civil war over enforcement>And you also have to stress out about making it on time, which makes you arrive earlier than necessary and waste even more goddam time.not if you have reasonable frequency of service
>>542179838So you're basically saying that if we go back to living the way we did in the 1920's public transit would be great and we could all live packed together in concrete dystopian hellhole cities and move around from concrete dystopian hellhole A to concrete dystopian hellhole B packed together in trains.Yeah no thanks. I'll stick to my huge yard with peace and privacy and getting to where I need to go in the comfort and privacy of my car. Fuck trains
>>542179121Not a political choice, but a financial choice. If there were no cars there would be no roads, no trucks supplying goods and materials or transport of any kind. You're just a retard who hates cars because you too lazy or stupid to get a job and afford one.
>>542180027it's very funny that americans got ethnically cleansed from their own cities by black criminals in the 60s and are still coping about it by saying "well the suburbs are better anyway"how long does it take you to go down to the nearest shop? can you even walk anywhere? you're totally car dependent aren't you.cities are better to live in, dense cities are better because jobs are there, other people are there, services work better (provided you have law enforcement to keep antisocial behaviour down) and there's literally nothing wrong with concrete anyway, it's been the standard of civilization since the romans invented it.
>>542178514Anyone who uses terms like "Carbrained", "Stroad" or "Walkable" should be executed.
>>542180223>how long does it take you to go down to the nearest shop? can you even walk anywhere? you're totally car dependent aren't you.walking distance, 10 minsbut a big box store is 40 mins away driving, and all 4 of the shooting ranges i like going to are anywhere from a 20 to 40 minute drive in four different directions.
>>542180223Have you ever been to a dense city, retard? Just because the "services and jobs are there" doesn't mean that people who live there will never drive outside of their district to work or anything else.You stupid fuck. Your utopian thinking is just braindead, as is all utopian thinking.
>>542180223Dense cities are cancer and attract parasites because there are many hosts to leech off of. I'm not living in a human hive, you bugman piece of shit. Once automation and AI obviate the need for proles, and said proles are culled via the next few rounds of engineered plandemic + depop vaxx, the cities will be AI/robot hives with very few people, and the real people will live in suburbs and rural estates.
>>542180223No they aren't moron. There is a reason everyone left the city after the automobile was invented.Living in the city is objectively horrible for your mental health. When I lived there, I and every person I knew living there had some kind of "mental health" problem. It turns out that living in overcrowded conditions being subjected to constant stimulation from noise, lights, traffic, people, etc. turns you into an anxious neurotic mess. You will notice this when you finally move out and all of your "mental health" problems are suddenly gone a year later.Cities arose out of necessity to make agriculture and industry possible without a better form of transportation. When the automobile came along and we could spread out, they immediately became obsolete.Cars can drive themselves now. It's now possible to live in the most private, serene place ever and press a button to have your automobile take you wherever you want to go. In a few years, it will be able to go places by itself and pick up groceries, etc. Living in a concrete jungle and cozying up with strangers to go places is in no way futuristic or desirable compared to this.
>>542177382Mass transit in general is only shilled and funded because it makes it incredibly easy for shitskins to invade white communities.
>>542180623>There is a reason everyone left the city after the automobile was invented.they didn't, they left because of white flight in the '60s, there are still a few white cities left in the USA>When the automobile came along and we could spread out, they immediately became obsolete.nobody wants to have to drive 45 minutes to get to work you idiot, americans were ethnically cleansed from their own cities and have been in denial about it ever since
>>542180623>Living in the city is objectively horrible for your mental health.it's the opposite, cities are how you meet people, suburbs are where your social life goes to die
Bro trains would be so cozy if everyone was european and suits and dresses were mandatory attire. That latter point could fix a lot of society to be honest.
>>542180223>cities are better to live inzoomer detected being in the city won't get you pussy
>>542180739>americans were ethnically cleansed from their own cities and have been in denial about it ever sinceYeah and the same is happening to you and the French and every other white people dumb enough to fall for "western values."
>>542180739anyone who is no longer a horny 20-something starts thinking about leaving the city and living in some form of detached housing not everyone can afford it though, which is why they remain in the city
>>542180739>white flightSorry, you're correct. White people with the means to leave picked up and left. The niggers who moved there for the factory jobs weren't able to leave so they stuck around and became welfare leaches.I've never met a person who moved from the city to the suburbs and thought it was a downgrade. Nobody misses living amongst all that shit. Hence why, like I said, white people moved out and never came back.>workPeople work from home now. Would you rather do that in some tiny apartment smelling your neighbor's cooking and listening to ambulance sirens all day, or in a big house in a quiet neighborhood where you can look out your window and see nature?The cityfag cope is unreal. You guys have the worst Stockholm syndrome I have ever seen.
>>542177382Idgaf also im pretty sure this thing never happened
>>542177382i love trains and want the EU to invest a lot of money in a high speed railway connection all major citiesJust a good high speed connection like Amsterdam - Rotterdam - Antwerp -Brussel-Paris-LyonAfter that you could split and have one go to Turin and further into Italy, and the other go to Montpelier and into Spain(skip Marseille)
>>542180775Lol cityfags are antisocial loners who live there to feel anonymous in the sea of people. I never felt lonelier in my life than when I was living in a city.
Better than trains and cars would be an underground network of warehouses. Imagine if there were no cities, no buildings taller than 18', no suburbs, no roads, no stores, no jews/brown "people", or money. Just pastures, forests, meadows, gardens, and the occasional house built to look like hills.The underground warehouses could be used to buy, sell, and move goods. Everyone larps as peasant lords and then like as upside down Santa they throw what they produce down a shaft in their basement and out pops something they want.This would be really cool.
>just go to germany and back to save like 3 pounderinos brodo ukcuks really
>>542179366It was the era before parasitic jews leeched the life out of everything
>>542177382low overall emissions vs people carried I believe
>>542180623All this is true, but the suburbs are also why modern Americans are obese, retarded, gay, and dysgenic. The cities encourage people to walk and socialize which are important. The cars have even turned the rural areas into trash. Those country lanes used to be full of frolicking children and tall lanky farmers, the cars wiped everything off the roads and now everyone is a fat hamplanet with no social skills. Of course the niggers are partially to blame for that. But the cars problem needs addressing. We need separate road networks for cars and for pedestrians imo. The rural and suburban areas are the worst afflicted by this.
>>542177382oim chooklin me ass awf m8!!!!
>>542181252they think they're closer to "where life happens" or some stupid shit like that women just use it an excuse to be near lots of anonymous cock
>>542177382It gives them more control over you and yours.>some jew said he's going to bomb the train, open your bags and butthole goy>you said something mean online? No train pass for you goy
