The burden of proof is on the state to prove that the accused was not in a state of psychosis during the acts alleged. Apparently the prosecutor fucked so bad that 11 jurors disagreed with the states assertion. So, that begs the question; What evidence did they actually provide that she wasn't in a state of psychosis during the killings? Again, the burden of proof is still on the state even if the defendant is using an affirmative defense.
>>542189721FUCK YOU, NIGGER!
>>542189721Im just excited we get more trial kino in a few weeks
>>542189721Baby killers must be sent to prison.
>>542189721IDRAMA FOIDSLOP THREAD
>>542189721>whoops I got psychosis this ONE time I killed all my children and never again>boo hoo please donate below
>>542189721>Lindsay Clancy did not have acute psychosis when she killed her three children but rather took their lives so they wouldn’t “suffer” after she took her own life, a forensic psychologist testified Monday in her murder trial.>Kirk Heilbrun said he ruled out acute psychosis with command hallucinations because he didn’t believe Clancy when she said she heard a voice telling her to “kill the children so you can kill yourself.”>“The way she described this as happening is that she heard a voice that she’d never heard before, experienced a hallucination and she’s never experienced it since. But she only experienced it for the 18 minutes or so that it took to kill the children,” Heilbrun testified. “To put it mildly, that would be a very, very unusual pattern or manifestation of how this kind of thing comes about. Very unusual.”https://apnews.com/article/lindsay-clancy-murder-trial-mental-health-50bc0cd6e8bfb5d15cfbcdf9907ca1b2
>>542189721watch the prosecutions closingshe was rational as she planned the murders - points away from psychosisshe did not inform her practitioners about her "psychosis" symptoms before the murders - points away frm psychosisshe did not take her meds properly - points away from the defence that "the meds made her do itshe half assed the "suicide attempt" so bad but was LOCKED THE FUCK IN like a professional sicilian hitman when it came to murdering her own kids. how convenient. - points away from psychosis.
>>542189767>>542189785>>542189799>>542189822>>542190115If it's so cut and dry then it should be simple for you chimps to answer a basic question. Where is the proof that she was not in a state of psychosis?
>>542189721Prove to us that you, OP, haven't been in psychosis for the past 18 minutes. Actually I'll make it easy. Prove you aren't in psychosis for the next 18 minutes. Even writing down that you aren't in psychosis and you understand the difference between right and wrong could just be part of the psychosis and your tyler durden twin is trying to trick us.
>>542190273continued.>Heilbrun is the latest prosecution witness to say that while Clancy was mentally ill, she still knew that what she was doing was wrong.>On Friday, Dr. Avram Mack, a forensic psychiatrist, testified that he found no evidence of mania or hypomania to support a bipolar diagnosis — or of psychosis — leading up to the killings. He said Clancy was experiencing severe mental illness when she killed her children but that it was a continuation of the depression she had experienced for months in which she was able to control impulses and distinguish right from wrong.
>>542189721why should psychosis be an excuse for criminality to begin with? anyone who commits a crime out of mental illness should be imprisoned for LIFE. SOCIETY DOESN'T NEED MENTALLY ILL NIGGERS AND HAGGOTS.
>>542189721you shouldn't be allowed to vote
>>542190366Nobody cares nigger.Baby killed -> go to prison.
>>542190273>>542190353FINALLY. Was starting to lose hope in this shit hole. Thanks frens. This thread is no longer of relevance.
>>542189721There is no way to prove concretely that someone was in a state of psychosis because psychosis is a set of vaguely defined behaviors observed in someone else with the naked eye, and the only way you're considered to have it is if a "psychiatric professional" says that you do.During the killings, Lindsay's husband called her while he was out of the house and she had a perfectly calm discussion with him. After hanging up she resumed the killing. There's no way she was in any sort of psychic breakdown.She had already told both her husband and mother she was thinking about hurting the kids. She did not tell her pyschatric team cuz she knew she'd probably be involuntarily committed to an institution.She meticulously planned the murders and faked her own suicide attempt to build her own defense case except she landed wrong and paralyzed herself. I think she planned to get revenge on her cheating husband and start fresh as she hated parenting.>>542190273Psychiatry is a complete meme profession. There's a reason scientists and medical doctors by and large still don't recognize it as a real discipline. It's all based on nothing. There's no concrete diagnosis possible. They just group a couple behaviors together and call it a "mental illness." It's pure quackery and their main job is drug salesmen.
>>542189721She murdered her children simple as
>>542190381If I were in OP's place, I'd lose hope and kill myself after reading this. You aren't psychotic, you are retarded.
>>542189721i mean that fedex is obviously not right in the head. she also planned the murders, waited till opportunity, and then tried to get out of responsibility by killing herself.
>>542189721>Not in psychosis before the killing>Not in psychosis after the killing>Able to act and talk normally and plan ahead during the killingN-no you didn’t prove I wasn’t psychotic for the exact few minutes I wasn’t being observed by anyone
>>542190381I don't have to. I'm not on trial. And even if I was, the burden of proof would be on 4chimps lemmings such as yourself.
>>542190414Not imprisoned but definitely kept in a psychiatric institution forever or until actual rehabilitation is achieved.
>>542189721>The burden of proof is on the state to prove that the accused was not in a state of psychosis during the acts allegedUh, no, it's not. PPP isn't even a real listed psychological illness. May as well claim that a man can off his kids, claim "post GTA6 psychosis" from be upset that the game ended, and that it's up to the state to prove that the claim isn't true.
>>542190528actually it would be on your doctor in diagnosing how badly i just prolapsed your sister's anus again last night, faggot, shut the fuck up bitch. fuck you.
>>542190495>Psychiatry is a complete meme profession.Source: youtube
>>542190353Leaving the kids separate points to her mindset as well. She didn’t bother moving the boy she pursued into the home office. They really should have made her establish a timeline of the actual murders.
>>542190425Why? Asking questions is healthy.>>542190436Not an argument>>542190498Yes, but an affirmative defense still puts the burden of proof on the state. Not the defense. I am merely asking for said proof you fucking nigger. Go make some wooden shoes or whatever the fuck it is you toothpaste people do.>>542190505Not an argument>>542190519What does FedEx have to do with anything?
>>542190366Jury nullification, the law is bullshit.
>>542190572She would be released in under a year, anon. No doctor diagnosed her with psychosis beforehand. Within a year the staff would claim she has no psychosis and be free
>>542189721>How is she guilty exactly?She's not.
>>542190576Actually it is. In anyvaffirmative defense whether it is self defense or insanity, the burden of proof is still on the state. In the case of SD, the prosecution would have to prove that you were not reasonably in fear for your life or safety, instigated/escalated the situation, and/or used disproportionate or unreasonable force. This is basic elementary.
>>542189721>The burden of proof is on the state to prove that the accused was not in a state of psychosis during the acts alleged.... and that's completely wrong. You are mistaken.The burden of proof for a mental illness defence is always on the defendant.
you are all on point there is nothing to add really. psychosis is too vague and too broad to be used as an exempt. you need to be uniquely mentqlly ill to kill your own vhildren i give her that
>>542190366>If it's so cut and dry then it should be simple for you chimps to answer a basic question.>I got psychosis this ONE timereading be lyk hard n sheit
>>542190587I don't have a sister>>542190787You don't have to be diagnosed with psychosis to actually experience psychosis.>>542190828Devil shit
>The insanity defense refers to a defense primarily used in criminal prosecutions based on the assumption that at the time of the crime, the defendant was suffering from severe mental illness that inhibited their ability to understand the nature of the crime. The defendant has the burden of proving that their mental illness affected how they differentiate right from wrong behavior not to be held legally accountable for the crime.>THE DEFENDANT HAS THE BURDEN OF PROVING THAT THEIR MENTAL ILLNESS AFFECTED HOW THEY DIFFERENTIATE RIGHT FROM WRONG BEHAVIOR NOT TO BE HELD LEGALLY ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE CRIME.
>>542190722try again, bucko
>>542190895Imagine shilling this hard for a bullshit law when the jury can just nullify it.
>>542189721The culture war has fried people's brains. It's impossible to talk about this trial rationally without some low-information retard going "Oh so it's okay to kill your kids?? It's legal now thanks to feminism?? How about I just kill your kids right now huh??"
>>542190366>Calls husband DURING killing her kids, is completely lucid and calculated the entire time.That's really enough, but there were many other tells of premeditation and lucidity.Anyway, its gonna be impossible to find an untainted jury pool next trial so she will likely get a NGRI.
>>542190782>The law has to serve my retarded worldview or its bullshit!!!Found the toddler brain
Where's her proof she really was in psychosis? It just conveniently popped in just after sending her husband out on an errand and just long enough for her to kill all her children,barely slash herself to look like she attempted suicide,and then jump out a window in frustration as she didn't have the nerve to really slash her wrists and neck...This bitch planned this and is guilty 100%...She needs to burn...
>>542190906Life must be hard. You being retarded and all.
>>542190978fuck you
>>542190961You guys act like temporary psychosis has never been successfully used as a defense.
we should remove the 5th amendment and the insanity plea
>>542191104No way. You gotta buy me dinner first.
>>542191075"Preponderance of evidence". Look it up sweaty.
>>542191142>We have to give up our rights because something didn't go the way I wanted it to. Pottery.
>>542191130usually it gets a bit more complicated than "I went nuts once and killed everyone in my family who couldn't beat me in an arm wrestling contest, but I'm all good now :)"
>>542191263theyre worthless laws
>>542189721>The burden of proof is on the state to prove that the accused was not in a state of psychosis during the acts alleged.If this bitch gets off it's just going to expose how fucked up the current legal precedent is and hopefully lead to it changing. Normally the prosecution just has to prove that someone did it and knew what they were doing. Both of those are easily done in this case. Even if she was in a state of psychosis at the time the evidence still shows that she understood she was killing her kids and that it was wrong (planning to get the husband out of the house and taunting him).And in the case of a defense/alibi, the defense has to bring evidence supporting that defense. However, in the case of a temporary insanity defense, it is impossible, either way, to prove what was happening inside of a person's mind during an event. So whoever gets the burden of proving a mental state at the time is screwed. A person with a history of mental health issues on trial is the only time a defendant can make up a lie out of thin air with no point-in-time evidence and have it stand as a solid defense.It is impossible to tell whether she was: >legitimately in a state of psychosis and was unaware of what she was doing>was in an altered mental state yet still aware that what she was doing was criminalor>was fully lucid and using her diagnosis as a coverIt's an impossible grey area. And cases like this encourage retards to commit crimes and pretend to be insane as a defense. Therefore all of the US needs to follow the "Guilty, yet insane" standard, to resolve ambiguity and chill the crimes of people pretending to be insane. It's the same logic behind why pre-emptive self defense murder and felony murder are illegal.
>>542191235>"Preponderance of evidence". Look it up sweaty.it's a criminal case, not civil, you clown.
>>542189721There is tons of evidence that she was in psychosis, especially because of the 13 meds she was given. Only other alternative is that she is a psychopath but there is a lot less evidence of that.
>>542190906I agree with the tripfag indian. The trial isn't for her being guitly of being psychotic, its to find if shes guilty of murdering her kids. If the defence says shes innocent because of psychosis, how isn't the burden of proof on them?they need to prove she was psychotic beyond reasonable doubt. the reverse is basically impossible without being able to peer inside her mind.somewhere along the way the court got it twisted
>>542190273>so they wouldn’t “suffer” after she took her own lifeThat's literally how a person in psychosis thinks.
>>542190436She killed 3 non whites. She deserves an award
>>542189721>prove that the accused was not in a state of psychosis during the acts alleged.I don't know of any murder anywhere in the world that would survive this test. I guess all murderers go free now?
>>542191417Based. Insanity defenses should have never been allowed. Psychology has no place in a courtroom.
>>542190995Neurotransmitters and channels exist. Study in animals exist. Psychiatrists are medical doctors.
>>542191235i think you need to look it up, jiggaboon. this is a criminal case
>>542191417alternatively couldnt you just remove the "and knew what they were doing" part? seems it should be up to the defence to prove they didnt
>>542189721She is clearly 100% guilty. Only problem is, your laws are retarted enought to make it not 100%. Also she is clearly possesed by demon. She must know that killing 3 kids is crime. End of story.
>>542191549Most murderers have a history of violence and don't have a history of taking psychotic-inducing meds.
>>542191103>if the Commonwealth proved beyond a reasonable doubt that, even if the defendant did suffer from a mental disease or defect at the time of the alleged offense, the defendant nonetheless retained the substantial capacity to appreciate the wrongfulness or criminality of their conduct and to conform their conduct to the requirements of the law, the Commonwealth has satisfied its burden of proving the defendant was criminally responsible.source: https://www.mass.gov/doc/9200-lack-of-criminal-responsibility/downloadreminder:>Lindsay Clancy did not have acute psychosis when she killed her three children but rather took their lives so they wouldn’t “suffer” after she took her own life, a forensic psychologist testified Monday in her murder trial.>Kirk Heilbrun said he ruled out acute psychosis with command hallucinations because he didn’t believe Clancy when she said she heard a voice telling her to “kill the children so you can kill yourself.”>“The way she described this as happening is that she heard a voice that she’d never heard before, experienced a hallucination and she’s never experienced it since. But she only experienced it for the 18 minutes or so that it took to kill the children,” Heilbrun testified. “To put it mildly, that would be a very, very unusual pattern or manifestation of how this kind of thing comes about. Very unusual.”>On Friday, Dr. Avram Mack, a forensic psychiatrist, testified that he found no evidence of mania or hypomania to support a bipolar diagnosis — or of psychosis — leading up to the killings. He said Clancy was experiencing severe mental illness when she killed her children but that it was a continuation of the depression she had experienced for months in which she was able to control impulses and distinguish right from wrong.https://apnews.com/article/lindsay-clancy-murder-trial-mental-health-50bc0cd6e8bfb5d15cfbcdf9907ca1b2
>>542191921by your logic the demon did it. which, by the way, has been used successfully by a murder defence in the USA>>542190722oh yah, just believe your drug-dealing doctor and meme flags on memechan, theyre trustworthy sources goy
>>542191932LOL neither did she. counsel admitted she went to multiple doctors to get multiple prescriptions claiming nothing was working and only took like 3 pills in total over the course of 8 months. she also didn't tell anyone this (doctors and family)
>>542192152>LOLStopped reading.
>>542191527No it's not.1. Lindsay Clancy did not kill herself.2. Lindsay Clancy murdered three children.3. Lindsay Clancy's claims of not being morally culpable due to "psychosis" were refuted in sworn testimony by multiple forensic psychiatrists.
>>542192321>tripfaggot tranny calling theyself Lucifer
>>542192402You have no argument. You lose. Again.
>>542189721I see my engagement thread is going well. Dance little 4chimps! Dance!
>>542189721So we have to assume that the feelings of the female defendant is true to excuse her behaviors? Will this be applied to men as well or is this just for women like usual?
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>>542192458>if the Commonwealth proved beyond a reasonable doubt that, even if the defendant did suffer from a mental disease or defect at the time of the alleged offense, the defendant nonetheless retained the substantial capacity to appreciate the wrongfulness or criminality of their conduct and to conform their conduct to the requirements of the law, the Commonwealth has satisfied its burden of proving the defendant was criminally responsible.source: https://www.mass.gov/doc/9200-lack-of-criminal-responsibility/downloadreminder:>Lindsay Clancy did not have acute psychosis when she killed her three children but rather took their lives so they wouldn’t “suffer” after she took her own life, a forensic psychologist testified Monday in her murder trial.>Kirk Heilbrun said he ruled out acute psychosis with command hallucinations because he didn’t believe Clancy when she said she heard a voice telling her to “kill the children so you can kill yourself.”>“The way she described this as happening is that she heard a voice that she’d never heard before, experienced a hallucination and she’s never experienced it since. But she only experienced it for the 18 minutes or so that it took to kill the children,” Heilbrun testified. “To put it mildly, that would be a very, very unusual pattern or manifestation of how this kind of thing comes about. Very unusual.”>On Friday, Dr. Avram Mack, a forensic psychiatrist, testified that he found no evidence of mania or hypomania to support a bipolar diagnosis — or of psychosis — leading up to the killings. He said Clancy was experiencing severe mental illness when she killed her children but that it was a continuation of the depression she had experienced for months in which she was able to control impulses and distinguish right from wrong.https://apnews.com/article/lindsay-clancy-murder-trial-mental-health-50bc0cd6e8bfb5d15cfbcdf9907ca1b2
>>542192025Yeah, it's essentially jury nullification at this point if even a single woman being on the jury means it will be impossible to convict her.
>>542189721No. When a defendant raises a true affirmative defense, the burden of proof for that specific defense shifts to the defendant. Typically, they must prove the affirmative defense by a preponderance of evidence, which is a lower standard than reasonable doubt, but it is still the defense's burden to do so.
>>542189721No, the burden of proof on the state is simply to prove she killed her three children, which she admits toThe burden of proof to convince us she was in psychosis is on the defense
... and if Lindsay Clancy was in fact "so depressed", why wasn't she actually taking her prescribed anti-depressants to treat her "depression"?Lindsay Clancy's going to prison; dumb/evil bitches lose.
>>542189721>The burden of proof is on the state to prove that the accused was not in a state of psychosis during the acts alleged.No that's a retard take, they just have to prove she did premeditated murder whixh she did. Her defense has to convince the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that she was insane the prosecution doesn't have to prove every criminal is sane.>What evidence did they actually provide that she wasn't in a state of psychosis during the killings? She paused her murder spree to have a calm and rational phone conversation as to not raise any alarms and finish off the last kid. Do you think the Batman theatre shooter would've stopped mid massacre, answered his phone and had a normal conversation "hey you didn't check Trivago, yeah don't wait up I'll be awhile"
>>542190495> think she planned to get revenge on her cheating husband and start fresh as she hated parenting.No, Clancy's don't cheat. We may be a lot of things, but cheaters aren't one - She got ick from him being overbearing, he went above and beyond for her with nannies, psyche service, the works. Being so whipped made her want to jump ship, why she didn't just divorce him and leave him with the kids I have no fucking clue.source: an actual Clancy family member who knows Patrick personally.>>542190828Star racism isn't an answer.
How is she NOT guilty? You've yet to satisfactorily explain how she didn't premeditate and murder her own children.
>>542190366Where is the proof she was?Seethe forever, foid. One day your psychopathy will catch up to you and you too will face consequences for the heinous shit you've done.The reason so many shit bags like you circle your wagons around that ugly bitch is because you identify with her. In your mind she IS you.
>>542192972>LIKE OH MY GOD YOU FUCKING INCEL IF LINDSAY GOES TO WOMEN'S PRISON FOR MURDER THERE COULD BE CRAZY BITCHES IN THERE AND LINDSAY COULD GET MURDERED! SOME OTHER PSYCHO WHO NEEDED HELP COULD STRANGLE LINDSAY TO DEATH. PROBABLY A LEO OUT FOR REVENGE
>>542192972the roasties i know are certain her husband did it and framed her.I know next to nothing about the case and I'm pretty sure that's total nonsense.
>Seethe forever, foid. One day your psychopathy will catch up to you and you too will face consequences for the heinous shit you've done.Truth.
>>542189721>What evidence did they actually provide that she wasn't in a state of psychosis during the killings?She was undergoing medical treatment, that's enough evidence that she wasn't in a state of psychosis. Of course the defense could argue that her doctors fucked up so bad they need to lose their licenses, but then they'd have to provide corresponding expert testimonies to back that up.
>>542192438Good night sar.
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>>542191028But that is rational thinking. She killed her kids, therefore she should be found guilty criminally. Mental health is meaningless she takes her children cold and calculatedly to the basement and strangles them to death. A 5 year old daughter, 3 year old son, and 8 month year old baby. That is demonic and barbaric.
>>542193341Psychosis can last for years and it's super hard to treat. Also notice how the Judeo-Pharma shills do everything in their power to distract from the fact that the 13 medications she was given could also induce psychosis.
>>542193511>Psychosis can last for years and it's super hard to treat.but also can be as short as 1 hour and is cured after you listen to the voices.
>>542193613Yes.
>>542193511Shut the fuck up thai bitch. Picrel tiniest dicks.
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>>542193655>meme flagOkay Chaim.
>>542193712I accept your concession.
>>542189721>Faggot leftists and dykes trying to move the goal post from when she admitted she murdered all three of her children one by oneOP is a dyke or faggot
>>542189721Millions of adult females go through post-parrum depression & don't even have the resources this murderess had. They don't murder their babies. Millions.
>>542193859Most people also don't take 13 psychosis inducing meds.
>>542189721She planned it, executed her children, then admitted to doing it in court. Stop being retarded and standing up for this monster just because libtard women have confused you.
>>542189721>The burden of proof is on the state to prove that the accused was not in a state of psychosis during the acts allegedSo this is an affirmative defense scenario right? Doesn't that make the burden not beyond a reasonable doubt but rather only require the prosecution to knock down one of the supporting legs? Shouldn't this be considered the same way self defense claims are in claimed justified homicide cases? What am I missing here?
>>542189721Look at that skull. Christ. She’s got a skull like a caricature such exaggerated pointy features. Skull mogs me to hell
>>542189721She said she did it.
>>542190366People in a state of psychosis don't realize anyone might disagree with their psychotic delusion, let alone make long term plans to commit murder like Clancy did. Their own delusions change too quickly, and implode the moment anyone even notices the psycho is being psychotic.t.psycho (but the happy kind)
>>542193613Im schizophrenic and confused about hearing voices as to whether they are my own thoughts or some retard in the afterlife/another dimension intentionally stalking and abusing me.I have been driven beyond insane. Still dont want to kill people because of it.
>>542193789You can't deny facts though lol unless you are in psychosis yourself. Are you speaking from experience bitch?
>>542189721the state brought in an expert witness that said she knew what she was doing and is criminally responsible
>>542189721psychosis isn't a real thing. that's like asking somebody to prove the tooth fairy isn't made up.
>>542190366I don’t care if she was. Even if she was, psychosis should be considered an aggravating factor, not a mitigating one. A psychotic murderer is more dangerous and less likely to be able to be safely released. We should just kill them. As we should non psychotic murderers. I think she probably was psychotic, and that she should be shot dead after a state mandated period of torture. Rehabilitative justice is violence to victims, and it’s gay and it doesn’t work and it never would. The death penalty is necessary in so many crimes that the torture is necessary to delineate them. A common rebuttal is if you get a death penalty for a rape and for a murder why not murder your rape victim? It’s less likely that you’ll be identified that way. Well, if the torture block was worse but you only wanted to rape, it incentivises less crime, not more.Lindsay wanted to be dead. We saw that when she jumped out of the window. She wouldn’t be afraid of a lethal injection. But a torture session where the goal isn’t to extract information, and is just to cause pain? Who wouldn’t be afraid of that? You can’t make it stop, you just have to endure to the end.
>>542194124>meme flag >1 post by this ID
>>542189721She's so cute bros I want to have sex with her and marry her. It's so over.
>>542194276Israel-coded post.
>>542189721guilt only applies to white men who have total free will according to the state. everyone else is a deterministic nurtured protected class do nothing wrong who cant ever be held responsible
>>542193848set her free everyone! Google has spoken!>>542194144good luck, dude. lean on whoever you possibly can, and don't shirk any help people offer. there's a lot of resources out there but none will be easy.
>>542194144get yourself an EMDR machine and MDMA and overwrite all your traumatic memories this will help elliviate the complexi and neuronclusters that become semi autonomous
>>542189721She knew full well what she was doing. She had three kids for fucks sake. THREE. So after her first kid she already got the feel of what all goes into raising a child, all the care and attention they need et cetera. So if all of that was so traumatizing to her, to the point where it fucked her mental health that badly then why the fuck did she have two more kids?
>>542189767this
>>542194407How do you figure?
If you watch the case, the reason they were swayed by the defense is because the prosecuting lawyer was a fat white woman that spoke in a monotone voice while the defense was an old guy who knew how to appeal to emotion. Anyone carefully viewing the facts can see the inconsistencies in the defense that makes the claim that she was psychotic dubious. That one man that held out was probably just autistic enough not to connect with the professional act that the defense put on. If the state put on a well-spoken, sexy man as the lawyer then Clancy would already be in jail.
>>542189721No the burden of proof is on the defense to show how she was, you can’t prove a fucking negative retard, it’s why everyone is innocent until proven guilty (which she admitted to being).
>>542192615That's the other interesting part of this case, all the experts called to testify (other than the defense attorney's friend that he chose to talk to Clancy and testify on her behalf since Clancy herself was never called to the stand for questioning) presented why in their professional view her story does not match what they would expect. The defense went out of his way to muddy the water and discredit their experience and underlying academic theory to blame the medical system and the drugs rather than the woman who was misusing/abusing these resources and not following the guidance of these professionals. The most hilarious part is that Clancy was a nurse so she probably just thought "I'm a mdeical person too, I know better" like all egotist women.
>>542191527No that’s what a narcissist thinks, and last I checked being a narcissist doesn’t get you out of going to prison.
>>542189721Patrick Clancy is guilty af. Dude has 15 min of missing time in his run to CVS and his restaurant pickup. Changed his fucking shoes and coat in the process. Everyone is having the wrong debate. Cops totally botched securing the crime scene. It's clear the whole main stream narrative is total bullshit. She was in a bad state, but women don't just kill their own kids, crush their own thyroid and toss themselves out a window. Patrick is a total sociopathic mother fucker.
>>542189721Someone could commit literally any crime and say they were in a state of psychosis.And they could never be found guilty because the prosecutors could never prove that they weren't in a state of psychosis.If she doesn't go to jail for life, our justice system is fucking stupid
>>542195857stfu foid.>women dont just kill their kidssome do and always have. women are just as crazy as men and always have been. They play out a scenario in their heads and try to convince the world is real and happening, because they are mostly useless.
>>542195857go back to tiktok, faggot. he sent an email from his car and even called her multiple times from the pharmacy (spoiler alert: she missed his first call because she was "busy")
>>542189721They have proof and she admitted to it. She should be executed
>>542189721Murder. Killing her children. The rest is bollocks. It's not an argument. Worse should happen to her.
>>542195857>women don't just kill their own kidsyes they do.
women also use deception... women lie, and women do evil things.
>>542190366>proof that she was notAnd you dare call people chimps
