What is the ultimate solution to the small probability of a random powerful elite/dictator/politian/sadist/AI/experimental scientist/galaxy leader/alien/unknown agent putting YOU in a hell prison forever and EVER and EvEr after curing the aging process medically, for any reason, like making his enemies think twice before they face him,(attack whoever in jail so that the enemy fears you) for example?wat do other than suicide now before that happens?
>>542202698Anon, the chances of that happening are like 0.005% at best, you gotta relax man
That's not a jail that's just an alien bathroom. Please come out Timmy other Gazorpions need to use the room
>>5422027620.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001, but it's gonna happen with time for sure for someone or some entity after a long time
>>542202810I'd be fine if they killed everyone who had ever been in jail, then I wouldn't have a problem with them killing anyone for any reason.
>>542202953Sir this is a Wendy's drive thru
>>542202984If you were in charge of the entire planet or universe and could choose whether to kill all criminals, or only those who had been on the planet long enough that they had a chance to learn from their mistakes. Which one would you pick?
That must be the best hash on the planet
>>542202811maybe thats why exists an universe filter so that it will never happen.
>>542203032>torture is fictionsad delusion
>>542203029>quack quack
>>542203045I think you're on to something there. Maybe it is possible for some people to be born into a world where their suffering is not endless, but I don't believe this is the case for everyone. If a person has been born into a world where they will end up as an eternal slave, then I believe that person deserves to die. This may sound harsh, but it is the truth of the matter.
>>542203299Oh this is about succumbing to masturbation isn't itWhy did you bother me so long for just that
>>542203158>hoof hoof
>>542202698Become able to cause such destruction and chaos that the mere act of keeping you alive is multiplicatibly more expensive then just ending you. Learn how stuff works, so you can break it. Make your hands strong and know how to use use fulcrum points and leverage. Be deceptively naïve. Be able to exude utter uselessness and meh.>The elevator broke again? How?>The kitchen shorted out and blew the oven? man that thing was 60 grand>ANOTHER broken door handle?>why do I feel like such shit today? They found what decomposing in the vents?>I thought X was unbreakable>could you really not fix Y, did you figure out what was wrong?
You really wasted a thread for this
>>542202698so like eternal damnation in hell from religion? they're trying to respin the brain damage this way? get it up to date? lol
>>542203029do you eternally punish the piece of furniture you hit your pinkie in? or like curse and move on with your life?you need to justify the energy. things are constantly changing anyway. the universe has an expiry date so nothing can really be forever until it inevitably gets recycled
>>542203548>some people enjoy torturing others>war (WAR) War (WaR)>economic benefit (do you care about animals in factory farms suffering?)>you made an unforgivable mistake for him in a second; he thinks it is very bad, and he is going to punish you forever>unknown unknownsWhat about a new form of physics being invented where there are infinite resources from quantum fluctuations?
>>542203798>>some people enjoy torturing otherspeople. why would machines do that? rational actors spend the minimum amount of energy to solve something.it's like arguing for snake or shark god.>but why wouldn't it be possiblethere's other things that happen on the way to becoming so powerful anon. different understanding of the world around you, different goals, different set of limitations and possibilities. if the girl you cheated on becomes a galactic god she would find better ways to spend her time, inventing her perfect lover, inventing new forms of life, colonizing the whole galaxy etc
>>542203391>you are in the ultimate jail, tied behind 100 layers of security and watched>bro just watch life hacks on the internet
>>542203979Tyrants' wars cause collateral damage>safety is guaranteed in this universe
>>542203497>rejuvenation can not happen over and over
>>542202698I'd say tolerance. I mean, after a few years, you lose the ability to feel it. In that sense, I'd say we're already part of an experiment like that.
>>542204359I do not understand what you are trying to say. that falls under "fuck do I care", not intentional eternal pain.dude, the argument is a hack to determine others do your bidding. it's the ultimate form of scaring someone.humans did this shit since forever>ok let's see...gotta find the most absolute form of fear so I determine others do what I want...what could that be....obviously the worst shit one can experience, but like...forever. wow, very creative. this shit ended up in religion for a long time because the fear works.>>542204404but who is doing it to you, that's my point. anyone who would have such power would understand some things at that power level. which would make it a moot point. what you are, why you did what you did, what they solve by doing it.brain damaged humans who enjoy creating pain are like..monkeys in the end. dumbfuck monkeys. same as every other human. some sort of godly creature would have *understanding* which would make it do other stuff. it knows you are a biological machine, maybe flawed, it understands why you did the bad thing it would potentially punish you for. it's like punishing gravity or something. just because it killed your child when it jumped out the window. it makes no sense to punish gravity when you UNDERSTAND what it is. or punishing the sun for burning your crops, 100.000 years ago. when you understand what the sun is and why your crops died...you lose interest into punishing the fucking sun. isn't it?not sure I'm good at explaining how I see it.
>>542204545That's not how suffering works. When you get into mental illness/real life torture, your brain becomes more sensitive to it.
>>542204646Hope you are right, but life is suffering(tm)You grow by suffering; that's how the brain works. You have to punish yourself by learning, which is, at the brain level, torture that can be multiplied in a future experiment about improving the universeWhat if the cycle of punishment kept going on forever by another agent just to make you grow or solve a very complex problem for the agent?what if the sadist just thought simply about torturing you forever for the simple reason that he wil ldo it before you do it to him and because of he was early and fast and you was late and thinkin about other stuff it happened.
>>542204962you do not need pain for growing. that is merely a limitation of early life. pain is a deterrent so you stay alive. if we didn't feel pain we'd get wiped. it's a signal that something is not good for your existence, so you should do whatever it takes to avoid it so you don't die. creating a religion around pain is again, primitive behavior.atm we don't have the means to intervene on our structure, but some synthetic form of existence for some AGI will have granular access. it can modify itself to adapt to the environment so it exists without wiping.pain is for animals, like low form of intelligence. it's motivating factor, avoid pain. that is why it's used in religions. to make you do what they want, they know you will want to avoid pain and will do anything for it. it's animal control
>>542205148>primitive behavior.old but gold.. uhmmm...>you remove pain capacity from your brain in the future, biologically, after trillions of years of you living>the agent makes you regain it againIf you tortured all humans in the past but removed the memory from your brain, and you do not remember now, you could be tortured forever
>>542205693for what purpose?like, you can make some software that generates "pain" in some transistors and leave it running forever, until the computer breaks. what do you gain out of that? you pay the current bill.the time you enjoy thinking about it suffering is time you lose from your own life. dunno, for me it's silly.I see the concept as a meme, like a literal one. a mind virus.
>>542206098>what do you gain out of that? you pay the current bill.Maybe in the future they keep traveling while taking you will them kidnapped throughout the universe to get more energy after using star after star, galaxy after galaxy, somehow, until they find a way to create new uniververses/big bangs so there is no problem with energy/matter/bills>the time you enjoy thinking about it suffering is time you lose from your own lifemaybe just losing your life is better than gaining your life for some time and then you face like 1 year of torture
>>542203418hahahha
>>542206098>for what purpose?Who cares? does not mean that this is impossible to happen!
>>542208549>for what purpose?idk.
>>542204098>>bro just watch life hacks on the internetyea because I totally haven't spent my life taking things apart, phreaking them, splicing and macgyvering them. I havent built frankenstien vehicles and computers. I don't know basic plumbing and carpentry and electrical and have never run gas line. I've never rebuilt a roof or chainsawed a down roof before. I've never jackhammered and laid a concrete porch. Oh no, I'm just a NPC that watches youtube videos.
>>542210679>I've never rebuilt a roof or chainsawed a down roof before.chainsawed down a half fallen tree leaning on a roof*
>>542210679>>542210821Well, this only solves one part of a googel part of the problem, not the root-cause solution it's a distraction.
