Why must governments push atheism as a state religion onto our people?
>>542219672Because they do not like competition.
They have evolved; there is an extensive list of species that have evolved from them. That doesn't mean the parent species vanishes - it doesn't transform or anything. As long as the parent species is still well adapted to their environment they stick around.Granted sometimes the progenitor species does vanish as the newly arisen species out-competes them. But this isn't always the case.Sorry for dropping knowledge instead of something funny or racist. Uhmm... it's all because of Jews?
>>542220113but how plastic have horseshoe crab genes been to the environment in that time frame?
>>542219672Christians are evil. They elect and protect pedophiles. They starve and bomb children. Christ is on the ballot. Vote no on Jesus.
>>542220282Their copper based blood is a medical marvel.
>>542221405>white christians are evil, they have too many white kids and are above replacement, they starve and bomb shitskins who hate white westernersthey got my vote
>>542219672Is there an explanation why these crabs haven't evolved that much?
>>542222089the only replacement christians are doing is of whites, by shitskinssuch christlike selflessness
>>542220113After 445 million years, evolution ought to be inevitable. Even just from 'noise' in the process.Change is constant. Unless somehow they managed to find the precise form that would be 'ideal' to their environment, and that environment never changed at all... AND no predator developed to target them in 445M years. AND that their food source didn't change or develop any defenses to them.It's honestly pretty weird.
>>542222181Yeah they haven't been able to leave your mom's pubes lmao
>>542220113I love jews now
>>542219672Atheism is not a religion. Atheism is an implicit state of being one exists in when not believing in any specific fictional sky wizard.
>>542219672>i believe in magic sky jewwell i don't>Why must governments push atheism as a state religion onto our people?you are just hopelessly retarded
>>542219672how's that workin out for ya
>>542224538Wtf why are full of mana potion
>>542223951You're too young for 4chan, lad.
>>542223951lol bodied that freak
>>542219672Evolution is real, though. You people already dismiss half the Bible as 'metaphor' when it suits you, so you can say the Book of Genesis is one too.
>>542224600Arthropods don't have an immune system to fight infections like vertebrates do. But they're big and long-lived, so it's something they have to deal with. What horseshoe crabs do is that their hemolymph (what they have instead of blood in their open circulatory systems) instantly coagulates when it contacts bacteria, gumming them up and preventing them from causing illness. This is a really useful property in some medical industry applications.
>>542220113>They have evolved>. As long as the parent species is still well adapted to their environment they stick aroundIf they evolved then they were not "well adapted" to their environment you retard
>>542224967I can almost guarantee that I've been here much longer than you (this is not a flex)
>>542225228>If they evolved then they were not "well adapted" to their environment you retardLol says who? Evolution doesn't stop at 'good enough' it keeps trying new things to see if they work even better than how it was before.
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>>542225313I've been here since 2007.
>>542225600They didnt have internet in finland in 2007. How'd you manage to do that?
>>542225647>They didnt have internet in finland in 2007.Anon, you really should check these things before saying them. It's Finland, not fucking Ethiopia.
>>542219672>Why must governments push atheism as a state religion onto our people?They don't they push statism as a religion. They push atheism along with it because they hate competition. States are defined by their monopoly after all, they're jealous gods.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_civil_religion>>542222181Because evolution selects for fitness, and if something is already fit for its environment it's not going to change much. We don't actually know how much horseshoe crabs evolved over the last ~half billion years. They hit upon a very efficient body plan early on and haven't needed to evolve in shape. Fossils don't preserve their soft tissue or their genome, just their shell. That being said, the 445 million year old fossils are different from modern horseshoe crabs, and even when the "modern" horseshoe crab emerged 225 million years ago, it still was a bit different from the current ones.
>>542220113This was a good post until the end. The worlds problems unironically are because of jews
>>542225394>Evolution doesn't stop at 'good enough' it blah blah blah Gibberish. Evolution does not have goals so it doesn't stop or start anywhere. The concept of "starting or stopping" is null. You are falsely projecting teleology into the supposed evolutionary process: borrowing concepts that can only be properly used to describe the process of an intelligent designer.
>>542225930>Evolution does not have goals so it doesn't stop or start anywhere....Yes? I said as much myself: 'Evolution doesn't stop[...]' How did you disagree with me so hard you ended up agreeing with me? It's actually impressive.
>>542225227>Arthropods don't have an immune system to fight infections like vertebrates do. But they're big and long-lived, so it's something they have to deal with. What horseshoe crabs do is that their hemolymph (what they have instead of blood in their open circulatory systems) instantly coagulates when it contacts bacteria, gumming them up and preventing them from causing illness. This is a really useful property in some medical industry applications.So you're saying that because they don't have an immune system, they learned the "cure" spell and the evil corporations are harvesting their magic blood for profit? Final Fantasy 7 warned us about this.
>>542226119>I said as much myself: 'Evolution doesn't stop[...]' That is not saying the same thing as stating "evolution has no goals" whatsoever. Your English is terrible.>The concept of "starting or stopping" is null>you ended up agreeing with me>DUUR NULL MEANS AGREEYou are clinically retarded
>>542219672funny how it turned out
>>542224538THIEF! Stealing my gig as crab juice poster.
>>542219672>>542220113>>542223213horseshoe crabs are 225 million years old not 445 myo, there is a similar looking fossil that is iirc unrelated that is 445 myo
>>542219672Evolution fills niches, since they already very good at their niche they won't evolve, humans dominate the brain and stamina niche
>>542226556>That is not saying the same thing as stating "evolution has no goals" whatsoever.A different sentence is different to the sentence I said, wowzers. Yes, obviously evolution isn't a sentient entity with goals or desires, it's just more convenient to personify it a little. When I say something like, 'Evolution favors beings better fit to their environment' I'm not saying it's Mother Gaia showing favor to the strong. Just like how when I say, 'My phone died' I don't mean I'm arranging funeral rites. It's just how people talk, anon, get that stick out of your ass.
>>542219672Atheism is the lube they use to jam every other rotten ideology up your ass.
>>542219672science being attacked by leftists
>>542228239>A different sentence is different to the sentence I said, wowzers. ROFL that is some out of this world copeI correctly claimed we are not saying the same thing after you falsely claimed you "said as much" and you think it's about grammar/syntax/word order etc. Then you acted like a moron and pretended we "agreed" when in reality you are just clueless. Nothing you said implied evolution has no goals until I brought up that premise. Just because you decided to agree with that premise after the fact does not mean you agree (or refuted) the logic that naturally stems from that premise (which nullifies your earlier reference that evolution does/does not stop at certain times for certain reasons and that validates the idiot canadian from earlier itt). Like I said, you are clinically retarded
>>542225813What?
>>542229100>Then you acted like a moron and pretended we "agreed" when in reality you are just clueless.I said evolution doesn't stop, you said evolution doesn't stop. That's an agreement, my dude. You disagreed with me so hard you agreed with me, my stance on that hasn't changed because that's still true.>Nothing you said implied evolution has no goals until I brought up that premise. So quick to attribute malice, aren't we? I thought evolution having no goals was obvious enough on its own, so I had no reason to explicitly state 'Oh btw, when I say X I don't mean Y, just in case you're wondering.' How was I to know you'd be such an autistic little sperg to need that patronizing level of clarification?>which nullifies your earlier reference that evolution does/does not stop at certain times for certain reasonsNo it doesn't lmao. Evolution still doesn't stop. This doesn't mean evolution would, in another context, want to stop, it just means it doesn't stop.
>>542219672They don't push it. It's simply readily apparent at this point that the claims if the supernatural are bogus, so religion fades.
>>542229773>the claims if the supernatural are bogusCausal processes (which natural processes are) can't account for their own existence, so something else is obviously involved.
>>542222089White liberal guys get to have kids with white women. White women hate conservatives.
>>542219672>giraffe laryngeal nerve>cetacean hip bone>ape tail boneCan any creationists explain these?
>>542219672Based. Those sack of shit Sealions are up there to as perfect, apparently
>>542229649I'm not going to bother debunking this anon's idiocy anymore (I've thoroughly done so and he/she will keep coping for 30 more posts denying it with mental gymnastics and syntax non arguments so there is no point... it's even admitting to lying at this point after falsely claiming it "said as much" but backtracked to now saying it was "obvious on its own" etc ) I'm just replying to point out to everyone else how completely ignorant it is after reading something I missed in its last post. Its earlier statement:>Evolution favors beings better fit blah blah blahWrong. Favoring anything is objectively goal-oriented behavior but the moron affirmed evolution does not have goals (after I pointed it out,it probably had no clue and AI'd it). It is completely ignorant of evolution and directly contradicted itself, just like basically all internet retards who believe in macro evolutionary origins of species. Three is no point in educating these religious zealot simpletons or even engaging with them.
Martin Luther removed the church as an enforcer of rules and customs on the people. In hindsight that was a retarded move.
>>542230427This is not your true position. Your true position is that a bunch of miracles that turn out to be hoaxes under any scrutiny are materially true.
>>542230730>I'm not going to bother debunking this anon's idiocy anymoreAnd yet you bother debunking me anyway. Methinks you're a bald-faced liar trying desperately to look as if you'd won the argument. Nice try, though.>>Evolution favors beings better fit blah blah blahChrist you're illiterate. When you hear the sentence 'Time flies' I bet you tip your fedora and say 'Um ACKSHUALLY, flight is an attribute of the material world and 'time' is a mental concept, so it cannot 'fly' at all!' thinking you've said something clever.
>>542231426>a bunch of miraclesAre you a juggalo?
>>542231620>And yet you [succeed in] debunking me anywayI forgot how painfully stupid you are and you need a "patronizing level of clarification"I'm not debunking any more of your *new* endless idiocy like I did with everything you said previously. >Christ you're illiterate. When you hear the sentence 'Time flies' I bet you tip your fedora and say 'Um ACKSHUALLY, flight is an attribute of the material world and 'time' is a mental concept, so it cannot 'fly' at all!' thinking you've said something clever.ROFL at this moron thinking an self-contradicting invalid "metalinguistic shorthand" is the same as any generic idiom/metaphorWhat an absolute coping fool. *that wasn't debunking I'm just pointing out you're a fool
>>542219672Example 443,234,234,232,255,732,743 that creationists are a bunch of retards who don't understand the theory of evolution or why the existence of "living fossils" neither disproves it, nor proves that the jewish supremacist mythology they subscribe to where they need to suck zionist cock to get into heaven is correct.
Ok let's go who wants to discuss?First question. If you don't believe in Evolution do you believe in old or new earth creationism?
>>542232855The phrase "you talk like a fag and your shits all retarded"could have been written with you in mind.You really do talk like a fag and you truly are retarded.You should do the World a favour and earn yourself a Darwin award. I bet you think you've said something clever and incitefulin your posts but in reality you've exposed your ignorance and spastication to the World.As we say in bongland "You're a fucking absolute mong."
>>542233517All creationists, whether young earth or old earth, believe in microevolution (even if they don't realize it). I already knew that when I was 11 years old. Your picture is "old earth" creationism but it runs into a problem when Genesis says plants were created before the sun. Either it's a literal day or God bizarrely kept plants alive for an epoch without sunlight. I lean towards YEC but I'm not an unyielding strong proponent of it. If God was being figurative then who cares? Almost all theologians think some of OT prophecy saying "weeks" actually means years>>542233268>need to suck zionist cockWhy can't you jews go 5 seconds without fantasizing about goys putting a jewish penis in their mouth?
>>542234045>earn yourself a Darwin awardYou mean marry my 1st cousin like Darwin did?Nah>As we say in bongland You "bongs" probably should have said "don't marry your cousin" a little more.
>>542234147Sounds like cherrypicking to me.Isn't the Bible (the word of God) infallible and should be taken literal?
>>542225930>Amerishart education
>>542234147>when Genesis says plants were created before the sun.Genesis contains two contradictory creation stories. That's an indication that the Bible is not a history book. That the OT predates history as a genre is another indication.
>>542227923>its not 400 million years old, its 200!!!Honestly we deserve to be genocided by jews, they have us arguing over the pseudoscience they invented. None of this nonsense is falsifiable, its complete horseshit
>>542234672>Sounds like cherrypicking to me.It can be, but I felt I logically justified my interpretation in that one case so it isn't cherry picking. In another case, the hebrew word for seed "sera" (or whatever it is I'm not looking it up) is used a dozen times in the OT and it always means literal offspring of humans or plants except one single time; when Isaiah describes the suffering servant (Jesus) he says he will see his seed flourish. Christians 100% have to say that is figurative seed or else Jesus missed a prophetic fulfillment because he had no literal offspring. There is no way to honestly say that is not cherry picking (and jews love kvetching as such). But that does not mean it's wrong. It fits entirely and the whole passage is filled with figurative language so it's not a stretch. It says things like the suffering servant will grow up as a tender plant. Is the Messiah a literal plant? Obviously no.>should be taken literal?I've never heard a Christian say every single sentence is 100% literal. The tender plant example is just one of countless examples. The only problem is if a so called "cherry picking" results in special pleading fallacy where the item in question suddenly flips to being figurative for no logical reason other than defending a certain theology.
>>542232855>ROFL at this moron thinking an self-contradicting invalid "metalinguistic shorthand" is the same as any generic idiom/metaphorNever said they were the same, I'm just saying you're such an autist you misconstrue every turn of phrase you hear. Or do you plan to debunk that, anon?
>>542235146>Genesis contains two contradictory creation storiesNo, it does not. Real Hebrew (not modern talmudist kikery "hebrew" ) treats verbs very differently compared to what English speakers expect and it leads to confusion in translations. Go read a literal translation of Genesis and it will blow your mind with things like "In the beginning God IS CREATING the heavens and earth" instead of past tense "created". Imbeciles try to capitalize on things like that to dishonestly claim there is a "contradiction" when there is not one. Are you one of those imbeciles?
>>542236166>this moron thinking>Never said ROFL at this moron thinking "said" is the same as "thinking"What an absolute coping fool.*that wasn't debunking I'm just pointing out you're a fool
>>542220113Americans are too retarded to read this post leaf-anon.
>>542225813He's retarded. Ignore him.
>>542220113>there is an extensive list of species that have evolved from themCan I see it?
>>542236378Well, you aren't a mind-reader, so clearly you're not responding to my thoughts, you're responding to what I said. Substituting 'thinking' for 'said' makes sense in this context. Again, these things go without saying, but I guess I can't blame an autist for missing basic social cues.
>>542234493>You mean marry my 1st cousin like Darwin did?his own later scientific breakthroughs caused him severe anxiety about the union.
>>542219672slide thread
>>542219672God existsEvolution existsBiblical dogma is a fiction though.
>>542237129>Substituting 'thinking' for 'said' makes sense BHAHAHA!!The cope from evolutiontards is out of this world>>542237181>Darwin needed to invent SCIENCE theories to realize he should not have produced 10 kids with his cousintopkekHis crackpipe theories of heritability where comically wrongThat's why he's only famous for 1 book despite writing several books. The other ones were loony bin tier.
>>542236195>Go read a literal translation of GenesisWhat translation would you recommend which has the creation order in Genesis 1 (light and dark, day and night, then the sky, then the sea and land, then plants, then stars, then the sun and moon, then fish and birds, then land animals, then humanity) match the one in Genesis 2 (then earth, then humanity, then plants, then animals)?>it will blow your mind with things like "In the beginning God IS CREATING the heavens and earth"I'm aware that different languages use different syntax. All translations I've seen indicate ongoing events said to occur in the past for that section.
>>542238402>That's why he's only famous for 1 book despite writing several books.Darwin got famous for The Voyage of the Beagle.
>>542219672Most species that have ever existed on earth are now extinct. Evolution does not mean what you think it does.
>comically inept retard thinks you can casually swap "think" vs "said" because nobody can figure out what someone is thinking without telepathyI didn't think anyone could be that stupid I guess the retard does not know what his fellow nigger is thinking if it keeps staring at his wallet while acting shifty and looking around for witnesses...>>542238901>>Go read a literal translation of Genesis>What translation would you recommend A literal translation. Can you not read? There are only about 4 of them.If you did not know that then you are not being intellectually honest.>creation order>Genesis 2 (then earth, then humanity, then plants, then animals)?That isn't an order in genesis 2, that is a description and you are falsely injecting "then" None of the literal translations have the word "then" in Genesis 2 because it is not listing a chronology. >All translations I've seen indicate ongoing events said to occur in the past for that section.Because you are not reading literal translations like I told you to do. I gave you explicit instructions to find a translation that uses verbs differently than we do, such as "God IS CREATING" but you chose not toWhy?Can you not perform a 3 second search for "literal bible translations" or are you just being a disingenuous shill?
>>542238402>The cope from evolutiontards is out of this worldThere's no issue in what I said. You're not a mind-reader. If think and said are so separate, you would have no way to know my thoughts, therefore you'd have been wrong from the start. Or you can admit that those two words work interchangeably here, and then you're wrong in a different way. Or you can flop around typing random shit because you boxed yourself in with that whole 'not debunking' rule you gave yourself. Thanks for that, by the way.
>>542238402>to realize he should not have produced 10 kids with his cousinToo bad God didn't get that message with Noah, kek
>>542239968>because nobody can figure out what someone is thinking without telepathyOh? And how did you figure out what I was thinking? Through what I SAID, perhaps? Lmfao, anon, you keep making my case for me.
>>542239968>There are only about 4 of them.So name one which says what you think it does.>That isn't an order in genesis 2, that is a description and you are falsely injecting "then">and before every plant of the field was in the earth, and before every herb of the field grew; for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.>But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.>And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul....>And the Lord God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper meet for him.”>And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air, and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them>because it is not listing a chronology.It's listing a sequence of events, some of them in explicit order.>I gave you explicit instructions to find a translationIt's not my job to make your point for you. You reached this conclusion in the first place, right? What's your source?
>>542239163>he's only famous for 1 book >Darwin got famous for The Voyage of the Beagle.You're being intentionally obtuse. Reagan got "famous for" being an actor but in 200 years people will say "he IS only famous" for being a president. Nobody cares about what originally put Darwin "on the map" almost 200 years ago.
